Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]

[tvbcof]

Interesting article about the current state of the russian army involved in UA "special military operation" and in general (german, use google translate for convenience):

https://www.nzz.ch/international/ukraine-russland-hat-fuer-den-krieg-zu-wenig-soldaten-ld.1682506

On the other hand, there have been interviews that raise concern that ukrainian's smartphones are searched by soldiers for "anti russian" content and people are checked for their opinions on russian politics. Based on their answers and smartphone findings they are detained to be sent to russian "reeducation camps" (like Uigurs in China), otherwise being handed a paper that allows them to move freely in Ukraine as well to immigrate to Russia.
De-Nazification at its best... 

Sounds like typical propaganda targeting standard-grade retards.

What I would guess would be happening would be, yes, people are analyzed as well as possible to see who, of the obvious civilians, is fervently anti-Russian and likely to be a security problem in the new SE Russian client-state areas.  They would be considered undesirables and strongly encouraged to head West.

Of course there are Nazi-ish fighters, mercenaries, foreign 'advisers', etc dressing up like civilians and trying to escape.  These are probably what the above propaganda are 'accidentally' mis-identifying in their article.  I'm sure they are being taken away to 'camps', but I doubt that there is a lot of 're-education' going on in said camps.  At least not re-education going on under design and dedicated efforts of the Russians.

Seems like civilians are dropping through whatever filters are in place by the millions and free to do what they wish.  A tiny fraction of them seem to be getting on buses heading for Zelensky-ville.  Seems like in areas in which combat has mostly ceased, the peeps are just getting back to life.

[suchmoon]

Why would Putin's psychos send a crane to the Theatre at Mariupol? Is there anything interesting to cover that they would need rebuilding in all urgency??

I think they're getting ready for the May 9 parade and don't want the rubble to ruin the TV show.

Also the smell is probably not too pleasant so they need to move the bodies out to one of those mass graves in the suburbs.

You know, the usual stuff that you do after you bombard the city for two months and leave it without power, water, food, medical facilities, etc. Replace the road signs, paint some curbs, erect a statue for a meme, and call it victory.

[tvbcof]

Why would Putin's psychos send a crane to the Theatre at Mariupol? Is there anything interesting to cover that they would need rebuilding in all urgency??

I think they're getting ready for the May 9 parade and don't want the rubble to ruin the TV show.

Also the smell is probably not too pleasant so they need to move the bodies out to one of those mass graves in the suburbs.

For those who missed it:

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/lRscm9iNwOWx/

A fair number of the apparently wildly exaggerated 'bodies in pits' seem to have been those of Azov human shield civilians who got so thirsty that they failed to comply with directives to stay put in the residential building basements, and got into line-of-site of Ukranian snipers on the tops of those apartment buildings.

The 'stories' from Western media came from 'Maxar' (CIA) satellite images (even when they had no satellites over the area at the time) and did NOT show pits if anyone had bothered to open their eyes, but instead exactly what Bartlett saw when she visited the site in person.  Graves.  The "30 meter wide pits" came from the 'mayor' of Mariupol who was apparently taking a break from having coke fueled gay sex orgies with Zelensky somewhere in Poland most likely.

You know, the usual stuff that you do after you bombard the city for two months and leave it without power, water, food, medical facilities, etc. Replace the road signs, paint some curbs, erect a statue for a meme, and call it victory.

The 'meme' of chasing out the Nazis in WW-II I guess you mean.  (I left the image in-situ because it is amusing.)

Russian strategy seems to be to go into areas, hand out some food, vacate to let the ultra-nationalist jack-boots exercise their vengeance on the population ensuring that the population will never support 'ukraine' again, then 'normalize' the area as a client state.  Brilliant, and quite awful when one things about it.

If I had to guess, I would say that Zelensky is basically on Russia's side to make sure that the end-game works out to Russia's liking.  That being a relatively friendly population who are somewhat grateful to be saved by whoever comes along to save them...and a lot fewer ultra-nationalists.

As for the Western arms pouring in, from what I've heard most of them are being sold to third-parties before they are delivered.  It's just a money laundering hub as has been the case for a long time and especially since the color revolution of 2014.  If the arms even touch Ukrainian soil is is a formality, and it wouldn't surprise me to find out that in a lot of cases they didn't even do that.  Whoever takes over the Russian client state will probably end up with a shiny new arsenal of weapons that did make it into caches on Ukrainian soil.  Some say it will be 'the Jews' who are looking for a 'new Israel'.  Time will tell.

[TwitchySeal]

Why would Putin's psychos send a crane to the Theatre at Mariupol? Is there anything interesting to cover that they would need rebuilding in all urgency??

I think they're getting ready for the May 9 parade and don't want the rubble to ruin the TV show.

Also the smell is probably not too pleasant so they need to move the bodies out to one of those mass graves in the suburbs.

For those who missed it:

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/lRscm9iNwOWx/

A fair number of the apparently wildly exaggerated 'bodies in pits' seem to have been those of Azov human shield civilians who got so thirsty that they failed to comply with directives to stay put in the residential building basements, and got into line-of-site of Ukranian snipers on the tops of those apartment buildings.

The 'stories' from Western media came from 'Maxar' (CIA) satellite images (even when they had no satellites over the area at the time) and did NOT show pits if anyone had bothered to open their eyes, but instead exactly what Bartlett saw when she visited the site in person.  Graves.  The "30 meter wide pits" came from the 'mayor' of Mariupol who was apparently taking a break from having coke fueled gay sex orgies with Zelensky somewhere in Poland most likely.

You know, the usual stuff that you do after you bombard the city for two months and leave it without power, water, food, medical facilities, etc. Replace the road signs, paint some curbs, erect a statue for a meme, and call it victory.

The 'meme' of chasing out the Nazis in WW-II I guess you mean.  (I left the image in-situ because it is amusing.)

Russian strategy seems to be to go into areas, hand out some food, vacate to let the ultra-nationalist jack-boots exercise their vengeance on the population ensuring that the population will never support 'ukraine' again, then 'normalize' the area as a client state.  Brilliant, and quite awful when one things about it.

If I had to guess, I would say that Zelensky is basically on Russia's side to make sure that the end-game works out to Russia's liking.  That being a relatively friendly population who are somewhat grateful to be saved by whoever comes along to save them...and a lot fewer ultra-nationalists.

As for the Western arms pouring in, from what I've heard most of them are being sold to third-parties before they are delivered.  It's just a money laundering hub as has been the case for a long time and especially since the color revolution of 2014.  If the arms even touch Ukrainian soil is is a formality, and it wouldn't surprise me to find out that in a lot of cases they didn't even do that.  Whoever takes over the Russian client state will probably end up with a shiny new arsenal of weapons that did make it into caches on Ukrainian soil.  Some say it will be 'the Jews' who are looking for a 'new Israel'.  Time will tell.

You trying to give BADecker a run for his money?

[tvbcof]

...

You trying to give BADecker a run for his money?

True.  Badecker is reasonable adept at trolling and does act as an incentive for me to put a little effort into my game.  He and I are not really orbiting the same philosophical centroid though (as I see it) so the observation is only half valid.  Whether he sees you guys as self-offered victim class entities and handy back-boards to bounce 'truth-shots' off of, as do I, I have no idea.

[be.open]

How much do you get paid for shilling russian war propaganda?
Putin's troll army is not a secret anymore, you might have noticed already....

One trophy microwave and three large cans of Nutella per week.

It seems like a couple of times I gave a link to a specific video in Kadyrov's telegram as a prooflink. Or do you seriously think that Chechens know how to deepfake when they shoot a video on the selfie camera of their smartphone?

It's not about deepfakes or something else. My point that's Kadyrov TikTok Telegram is one of many not reliable Russians sources. Quite fresh example about liberated village, which actually was under LPR control since 2014 and it's far from front line. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this stuff was posted on Kadyrov telegram.

I am not subscribed to Kadyrov's telegram channel and watch it occasionally. Definitely this is not a fake factory, I have no questions about the authenticity of its content, if you saw a fake there, please provide a specific link, otherwise it looks like slander.

You're right, I didn't know about it. Could you share some links to read about it because I can't anything about Ukraine abandoning western regions in favor of Poland.

Declaration of Remembrance and Solidarity, 2016. In 2015, the Restitution of Kresov was created.

[OutOfMemory]

Interesting article about the current state of the russian army involved in UA "special military operation" and in general (german, use google translate for convenience):

https://www.nzz.ch/international/ukraine-russland-hat-fuer-den-krieg-zu-wenig-soldaten-ld.1682506

On the other hand, there have been interviews that raise concern that ukrainian's smartphones are searched by soldiers for "anti russian" content and people are checked for their opinions on russian politics. Based on their answers and smartphone findings they are detained to be sent to russian "reeducation camps" (like Uigurs in China), otherwise being handed a paper that allows them to move freely in Ukraine as well to immigrate to Russia.
De-Nazification at its best... 

Sounds like typical propaganda targeting standard-grade retards.

What I would guess would be happening would be, yes, people are analyzed as well as possible to see who, of the obvious civilians, is fervently anti-Russian and likely to be a security problem in the new SE Russian client-state areas.  They would be considered undesirables and strongly encouraged to head West.

Of course there are Nazi-ish fighters, mercenaries, foreign 'advisers', etc dressing up like civilians and trying to escape.  These are probably what the above propaganda are 'accidentally' mis-identifying in their article.  I'm sure they are being taken away to 'camps', but I doubt that there is a lot of 're-education' going on in said camps.  At least not re-education going on under design and dedicated efforts of the Russians.

Seems like civilians are dropping through whatever filters are in place by the millions and free to do what they wish.  A tiny fraction of them seem to be getting on buses heading for Zelensky-ville.  Seems like in areas in which combat has mostly ceased, the peeps are just getting back to life.

So many "seems", but no sources. Do you want me to take this seriously?
That said, you're whole argumentation spins around distracting from the contents of the linked article.
As of the alleged camps, this was featured in many western media

And to make it clear: "Free" is a concept virtually non existent in a totalitarian "democracy" like Russia. It's pretty bold to claim people are " free to do what they wish" in such setting. Regarding re-education you might be right, when i cynically draw a comparison to the "occasional" not-reeducating taken place on the streets and in the homes of temporarily occupied cities. But, you would probably see a mass-grave of murdered civilians as an "alternative, completely trouble-free form of existence, for thousands of people in their new important community-role of biologically feeding the worms serving duty for the creation of fruitful soils"?

WTF; man, WT actual F? 

[Branko]

It seems alliances seen in current war were formed 2 years ago

https://peoplesdispatch.org/2020/12/21/us-ukraine-vote-against-un-resolution-against-nazism/

[OutOfMemory]

It seems alliances seen in current war were formed 2 years ago

https://peoplesdispatch.org/2020/12/21/us-ukraine-vote-against-un-resolution-against-nazism/

Probably unrelated:

Before the vote, a statement was made by the representative of the Russian
Federation; statements in explanation of vote were made by the representatives of the
United States and Ukraine.

while in meeting #15, on the very next day, the vote called

"A global call for concrete action for the elimination of
racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance and the
comprehensive implementation of and follow-up to the Durban Declaration and
Programme of Action"

Ukraine obstained, while USA voted "N" (No).

I think there has to be shed further light on this issue, because the reasonings of Ukraine and USA of voting "No" for draft resolution  "A/C.3/75/L.49" (70a) are not given in context here. I admit, this looked strange to me as well, but further investigation is needed to get more detail.
If USA and Ukraine would have voted the same in similar drafting votes (as outlined above), this would look like a no-brainer, but this way it's worth to investigate before blaming or accusing anyone. Nobody knows why the US and UA voted against this draft, but the details could be clarifying.

To sum it up: Don't judge based on the first look of something.

[af_newbie]

It seems alliances seen in current war were formed 2 years ago

https://peoplesdispatch.org/2020/12/21/us-ukraine-vote-against-un-resolution-against-nazism/

Orwellian resolution by a country that employs Neo-Nazi mercenaries (Wagner group) to kill innocent civilians in Africa/Syria (and now in Ukraine).

What is next? Russia's UN resolution on not invading other countries and annexing their territories?

Russian dark humor I guess. Resolution on Nazism by Russia? That is a hoot.

"We have never attacked Ukraine"
"We have never invaded Ukraine"
"War is peace"
"Peace is war"
"We don't kill them, we denazify them"
"We don't destroy their civilian infrastructure, we demilitarize them"
"We don't rob them, we protect them"

[suchmoon]

New video, seems another boat got hit, and it was trying to deliver a new SAM to the island... hit-one-get-one-free kind of deal for the non-existent Bayraktar.

https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1522853902101667842

[Lucius]

When you destroy a $1 million combat vehicle with a modified grenade and a small drone - priceless.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1463471580521152512
https://twitter.com/i/status/1520046598327308288

[suchmoon]

Finally the glorious Russian Ministry of Bullshit has destroyed the last Ukrainian airplane:

MoD: Russian air defense systems shot down a Ukrainian Su-27 in the Platonovka area.
[...]
In total, 152 aircraft have been destroyed since the beginning of the special military operation [...]

Further in the same article, the number of destroyed and remaining Ukrainian military equipment is given:

"The Russian military destroyed [...] 112 out of 152 aircraft, 75 helicopters out of 149,
148 air defense systems S-300 and Buk M1 out of 180 [...]"

[OutOfMemory]

Like children. Too dumb to tell convincing lies 

(edited)

[BADecker]

When you destroy a $1 million combat vehicle with a modified grenade and a small drone - priceless.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1463471580521152512
https://twitter.com/i/status/1520046598327308288

That's pretty hard to believe, when you consider all the practice and machinery that it took in WW2 to get a plane to hit its target with a bomb. Probably it was a "dead" vehicle, and the ground around it is pictures of all the misses before they finally hit it.

[suchmoon]

That's pretty hard to believe, when you consider all the practice and machinery that it took in WW2 to get a plane to hit its target with a bomb. Probably it was a "dead" vehicle, and the ground around it is pictures of all the misses before they finally hit it.

This is not WW2 and not a "plane". There is plenty of "practice" and "machinery" though. Don't be lazy, look it up. You can even build your own quadcopter and try it out.

[BADecker]

That's pretty hard to believe, when you consider all the practice and machinery that it took in WW2 to get a plane to hit its target with a bomb. Probably it was a "dead" vehicle, and the ground around it is pictures of all the misses before they finally hit it.

This is not WW2 and not a "plane". There is plenty of "practice" and "machinery" though. Don't be lazy, look it up. You can even build your own quadcopter and try it out.

It doesn't take much of a nudge upstairs to throw a bomb off to the side. A slight gust, a tiny voltage surge on the engines. They make better cartoons... or check out all the real videos from drones, to see that this whole thing looks kinda fake.

[paxmao]

It seems alliances seen in current war were formed 2 years ago

https://peoplesdispatch.org/2020/12/21/us-ukraine-vote-against-un-resolution-against-nazism/

More like in 2014. Does this year sound familiar for anything in particular? (Hint: Starts with "Cri" and ends with "mea").

Edited:

This is what Russian Young and unready soldiers are going to be facing. Several batteries of this scary toys to be wiping out regiments in minutes.

https://youtu.be/pf76pAYyU8U?t=402

[crypto_trader#43xzEXrP]

Khuylo betrayed a people of USSR.
Proof:
https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmU19b1JqokECbvQGVrc2oXajVinJJXc6hBNEtWRz7ZkTD
https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmcdKhNVD8j5hDAFfiKDjSASnFwnQ9yMaRqpHYqR4XQcUB

[PaperWallet]

The glorious Russian military again doing what it does best - i.e. lying.

Family of one of the sailors who died on Moskva can't find out what happened to their son and the fleet command is covering up his death with blatant lies:

• The flagship was not in Ukrainian territory.
• The flagship was not participating in the "special operation".
• Your son went missing in the "accident" and his location has not been determined.

https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1522458616913145857

Yeah I mean just tell us you what you do best. I suggest you go fight them.