Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]

[LTU_btc]

In recent days name of Konashnenkov were mentioned few times here. So, finally someone spend some time and debunked his lies in detail. So, how surprising, but according to him, Russia destroyed more Ukraine army hardware than they actually have. For example, they destroyed 84 Bayraktar drones, 20 more than Ukraine ever had:
https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/06/30/according-to-russia-s-press-releases-they-ve-destroyed-more-military-hardware-than-ukraine-ever-had
Russian forces left famous Snake island. Russia called it as good will sign and they finished tasks here, but they forget to mention it was under powerful and effective rocket artillery attacks from Ukraine:
https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/30/europe/snake-island-russia-ukraine-invasion-intl/index.html
Russia and Ukraine made big POW swap, including quite big number of Azov troops. I remember someone saying that there will be no mercy for these "nazis":
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-russia-prisoner-swap-azovstal/31921756.html

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[johhnyUA]

In recent days name of Konashnenkov were mentioned few times here. So, finally someone spend some time and debunked his lies in detail. So, how surprising, but according to him, Russia destroyed more Ukraine army hardware than they actually have. For example, they destroyed 84 Bayraktar drones, 20 more than Ukraine ever had:
https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/06/30/according-to-russia-s-press-releases-they-ve-destroyed-more-military-hardware-than-ukraine-ever-had

Yes. Here is compilation of all russian propaganda "statistic"



First column - "was at the start"
Second one - "provided by westerners"
Third column - "destroyed"

Look at numbers: For example, russian "destroyed" ALL ukrainian UAV of all types (1049 from 1049). Funny BS

[Branko]

In recent days name of Konashnenkov were mentioned few times here. So, finally someone spend some time and debunked his lies in detail. So, how surprising, but according to him, Russia destroyed more Ukraine army hardware than they actually have. For example, they destroyed 84 Bayraktar drones, 20 more than Ukraine ever had:
https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/06/30/according-to-russia-s-press-releases-they-ve-destroyed-more-military-hardware-than-ukraine-ever-had

Yes. Here is compilation of all russian propaganda "statistic"



First column - "was at the start"
Second one - "provided by westerners"
Third column - "destroyed"

Look at numbers: For example, russian "destroyed" ALL ukrainian UAV of all types (1049 from 1049). Funny BS

Its probably made up by Ghost of Kiev, he has a lot of free time now that Russians destroyed all of his planes

[paxmao]

In recent days name of Konashnenkov were mentioned few times here. So, finally someone spend some time and debunked his lies in detail. So, how surprising, but according to him, Russia destroyed more Ukraine army hardware than they actually have. For example, they destroyed 84 Bayraktar drones, 20 more than Ukraine ever had:
https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/06/30/according-to-russia-s-press-releases-they-ve-destroyed-more-military-hardware-than-ukraine-ever-had
Russian forces left famous Snake island. Russia called it as good will sign and they finished tasks here, but they forget to mention it was under powerful and effective rocket artillery attacks from Ukraine:
https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/30/europe/snake-island-russia-ukraine-invasion-intl/index.html
Russia and Ukraine made big POW swap, including quite big number of Azov troops. I remember someone saying that there will be no mercy for these "nazis":
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-russia-prisoner-swap-azovstal/31921756.html

The Ministry of Dark Humour and Fantasyland tales must have been under budget cuts to come out with the story of "good will gesture" to leave Snake Island. I confess I had a good laugh at that one.

Despite how fancy and cool this island looks from the strategic point of view (perfect for early warning or as naval base) Ukraine decided long ago that is much easier to attack than to defend. The RF Chief Psychos had to first loose the Moskva, then a few other minor ships (along with wasting the lives of their crews for nothing) and ground troops to figure it out.

Good gesture my ass.

[Branko]

The Ministry of Dark Humour and Fantasyland tales must have been under budget cuts to come out with the story of "good will gesture" to leave Snake Island. I confess I had a good laugh at that one.

Despite how fancy and cool this island looks from the strategic point of view (perfect for early warning or as naval base) Ukraine decided long ago that is much easier to attack than to defend. The RF Chief Psychos had to first loose the Moskva, then a few other minor ships (along with wasting the lives of their crews for nothing) and ground troops to figure it out.

Good gesture my ass.

Russians used their superb science to resurrect dead Snake Island defenders...can you point at better than that Ukrainian
gesture? Ukrainians just want to kill without warning instead

[be.open]

Russians used their superb science to resurrect dead Snake Island defenders...can you point at better than that Ukrainian
gesture? Ukrainians just want to kill without warning instead

Do you want a fresh Russian joke?

Very near future. Paris. Russian tanks on the Champs Elysees. Tankers are sitting in the chantan cafe, drinking freshly brewed coffee, eating croissants, and one of the tankers says:
- Oh, it's a pity that we still lost the information war...

[paxmao]

The Ministry of Dark Humour and Fantasyland tales must have been under budget cuts to come out with the story of "good will gesture" to leave Snake Island. I confess I had a good laugh at that one.

Despite how fancy and cool this island looks from the strategic point of view (perfect for early warning or as naval base) Ukraine decided long ago that is much easier to attack than to defend. The RF Chief Psychos had to first loose the Moskva, then a few other minor ships (along with wasting the lives of their crews for nothing) and ground troops to figure it out.

Good gesture my ass.

Russians used their superb science to resurrect dead Snake Island defenders...can you point at better than that Ukrainian
gesture? Ukrainians just want to kill without warning instead

I am missing your point. Irony is fun when well played.

RF had to leave the island forcefully. Pretending that's a gesture is laughable and yes, it did cost them troops, ships and equipment. Ukraine "losses" were a small unit way at the beginning of the war that was probably testimonial. And for what some Kremlin trolls argue, they are not dead, they surrendered.

[Branko]

The Ministry of Dark Humour and Fantasyland tales must have been under budget cuts to come out with the story of "good will gesture" to leave Snake Island. I confess I had a good laugh at that one.

Despite how fancy and cool this island looks from the strategic point of view (perfect for early warning or as naval base) Ukraine decided long ago that is much easier to attack than to defend. The RF Chief Psychos had to first loose the Moskva, then a few other minor ships (along with wasting the lives of their crews for nothing) and ground troops to figure it out.

Good gesture my ass.

Russians used their superb science to resurrect dead Snake Island defenders...can you point at better than that Ukrainian
gesture? Ukrainians just want to kill without warning instead

I am missing your point. Irony is fun when well played.

RF had to leave the island forcefully. Pretending that's a gesture is laughable and yes, it did cost them troops, ships and equipment. Ukraine "losses" were a small unit way at the beginning of the war that was probably testimonial. And for what some Kremlin trolls argue, they are not dead, they surrendered.

Nono, they died heroically

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60522454

[VKcams.com]

In Lysychansk, fighting broke out between soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and fighters of nationalist formations. This became known from intercepted talks in the area.

According to the Zvezda TV channel, AFU units are trying to leave the city. However, barrier troops are standing in their way and shooting all retreating units. Note that the allied forces are actively taking Lysychansk under their control. So far, they have succeeded in liberating the city's oil refinery. Ukrainian formations were using its territory as a staging post.

https://voennoedelo.com/posts/id26263-4lul486lmytb5kufeq6w

[johhnyUA]

In Lysychansk, fighting broke out between soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and fighters of nationalist formations. This became known from intercepted talks in the area.

According to the Zvezda TV channel, AFU units are trying to leave the city. However, barrier troops are standing in their way and shooting all retreating units. Note that the allied forces are actively taking Lysychansk under their control. So far, they have succeeded in liberating the city's oil refinery. Ukrainian formations were using its territory as a staging post.

https://voennoedelo.com/posts/id26263-4lul486lmytb5kufeq6w

And where is those "intercepted talks" ? When ukrainians intercept something, we publish it to all to hear. And in your link there is another link to Zvezda tg post (here it is - https://t.me/zvezdanews/84250) without any proofs. Just a guy with a micro tells to us that "this is true, 146 %, believe to me people. Blya budu" 

[suchmoon]

Russian missile hits an apartment building in Odessa region, kills 20 civilians including children. Were they training to join Azov in 20 years?

[goldkingcoiner]

Russian missile hits an apartment building in Odessa region, kills 20 civilians including children. Were they training to join Azov in 20 years?

The children were obviously dangerous neonazi commanders who had nuclear and biological weapons in their rooms. The longer a war goes on, the more terrible it becomes. judging how cruel Putins minions were at the beginning, I would not be surprised if Ukraine gets nuked by the end of the year. Cruelty just keeps stacking on. Tbh, on both sides at this point. Just yesterday I saw a video of Ukrainian soldiers bragging about executing POWs. Whether people say its justified or not, do they not understand they are hurting their own cause? War turning people of both sides into animals. Its sad to see.

If this war isn't stopped soon, shits going to get crazy.

[johhnyUA]

Just yesterday I saw a video of Ukrainian soldiers bragging about executing POWs. Whether people say its justified or not, do they not understand they are hurting their own cause?

They hurting wheir own cause only in the eyes of idiots. Let me explain: executing POWs it's not the same as killing civilians. Especially, if this pows are from a country which started a war.

It's easy way to not be executed - just do not come to Ukraine. And for civilian ukrainians such easy way can't be achieved, because in their case they already at home.

[VKcams.com]

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[suchmoon]

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I don't think these could have reached Odessa.

[goldkingcoiner]

Just yesterday I saw a video of Ukrainian soldiers bragging about executing POWs. Whether people say its justified or not, do they not understand they are hurting their own cause?

They hurting wheir own cause only in the eyes of idiots. Let me explain: executing POWs it's not the same as killing civilians. Especially, if this pows are from a country which started a war.

It's easy way to not be executed - just do not come to Ukraine. And for civilian ukrainians such easy way can't be achieved, because in their case they already at home.

Backwards logic and insults? Wow. Being called an idiot really makes me empathize with your people. Thanks for that.

It does not matter who started the war, you do not execute POWs and then brag about it publically on Tiktok. Especially when your country is heavily relying on foreign countries to send them weapons and financial aid. Its important to have a good reputation in the eyes of the international community. Think about all the people who you have made Anti-Ukraine with such dumb comments. You think this is good? You are doing damage.

Idiots like you are the reason why people are believing Putins propaganda about Ukrainians being nazis, idiot. Be better than this. The world is watching

[VKcams.com]

Idiots like you are the reason why people are believing Putins propaganda about Ukrainians being nazis, idiot.

Is this the first time you've met writers like this?
One here promised me a execution.

[BADecker]

The problem is that Americans, generally, are led by the media to believe that Ukraine is good and that Russia is bad. But they don't know how Russia has essentially saved the world from Nazism in WW2, and is saving it from Nazism again, in the war with Ukraine. And this time it is the US that is promoting the Nazism the Russians are fighting.


Americans Do Not Understand Their Own Military History

I believe one of the reasons many Americans carry such negative feelings about the Russians is our collective failure to understand the price Russians paid to defeat Hitler. The sad truth is that most Americans have trouble identifying the warring parties in World War II and generally believe that terrible conflict was settled because of what America did.

The American people are good folk at heart. They genuinely want to help the less fortunate or the beleaguered. But, during the last 75 years, American politicians cynically have used this trait to convince the public to back foreign wars that killed hundreds of thousands of civilians. All of this bloodshed was done under the banner of promoting freedom and democracy. Yet, if you ask the folks in Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Panama, Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, the Balkans, Libya and Syria how they view the US “help”, they have what can charitably be called a “different perspective.”

I believe one of the reasons Americans have been bamboozled into supporting most of the US foreign adventures is a fundamental ignorance about US military casualties. Misconceptions about US losses in World War II are pervasive. If you ask the average American who knows something about the history of WW II, he or she likely believes that the United States paid dearly in blood to defeat Japan and to help bring an end to Nazi Germany. In fact, the vast majority of Americans believe that the Russians played only a minor role in crushing the Nazis.

Apart from lousy public education, Hollywood is the major culprit in perpetuating the myth of US prowess in World War II. Those movies that mention the Soviet role (and that is a small number) usually portray Stalin as desperate for the Allies to open a western front against the Germans.

So let me share with you some surprising facts. What were the five bloodiest campaign battles in World War II that cost the United States the most fatalities?

• Battle of Normandy–June 6 to August 25, 1944. The United States lost 29,204 killed in action.
  
• Battle of the Bulge–December 16, 1944 to January 28, 1945. KIA, 19,276.
  
• Central Europe Campaign–March 22 to May 8, 1945. Fatalities totaled 15,009.
  
• Battle of Okinawa–April 1 to June 22, 1945. Deaths are estimated between 14,000 and 20,000.
  
• Philippines Campaign–December 8, 1941 to May 6, 1942. Approximately 13,000 KIA.

If your family lost a loved one in these battles, the total number of deaths is meaningless. The death of the person who was loved by parents, siblings and friends was incalculable. My intent in presenting these stark statistics is to help you appreciate why the Russians are so justifiably paranoid about foreign threats, especially those that embrace modern Nazis.

Here are the top five Russian campaigns. They only fought the Germans. But the price in blood is staggering:

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[goldkingcoiner]

Idiots like you are the reason why people are believing Putins propaganda about Ukrainians being nazis, idiot.

Is this the first time you've met writers like this?
One here promised me a execution.

Don't pretend to be buddy-buddy with me. I read your posts. You are much worse than he is.

In fact, if it were up to me you and other Putin trolls would be in prison for spreading misinformation and inciting hatred towards Ukrainians. This dehumanizes them, which indirectly leads to them being tortured and killed by the people who believe your bullshit.

And you keep supporting Russia as if Putin personally pays you. Karma will come back to you one day.

[BADecker]

Idiots like you are the reason why people are believing Putins propaganda about Ukrainians being nazis, idiot.

Is this the first time you've met writers like this?
One here promised me a execution.

Don't pretend to be buddy-buddy with me. I read your posts. You are much worse than he is.

In fact, if it were up to me you would be in prison for spreading misinformation and inciting hatred towards innocent Ukrainians, which indirectly led to them being tortured and killed by the people who believed your bullshit.

And you keep supporting Russia as if Putin personally pays you. Karma will come back to you one day.

The Ukrainian people aren't Nazi's. The government is. The people just don't realize it.

The Ukrainian people are often a mixture of Ukrainians and Russians... families with members from both nations.

Take a peek at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5382794.msg60485200#msg60485200.