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Naturally, I am inclined to bet on GGG, because I think he is underestimated. But it may be more logical to bet on a knockout victory, since it is unlikely that he will be given the victory if he slightly outboxes Canello.
The thing is GGG is the challenger here, if the fight were really close, then the judges will decide Canelo will win. Looking on the scorecard where Canelo fought against Bivol, it doesn't make sense the judges scored 115-113 for Bivol, it's obvious won and not even close. I think 117-111/112 is fair considering Bivol almost dominated all the rounds and landed many clean punch.
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June 01, 2022, 11:59:02 PM |
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Naturally, I am inclined to bet on GGG, because I think he is underestimated. But it may be more logical to bet on a knockout victory, since it is unlikely that he will be given the victory if he slightly outboxes Canello.
The thing is GGG is the challenger here, if the fight were really close, then the judges will decide Canelo will win. Looking on the scorecard where Canelo fought against Bivol, it doesn't make sense the judges scored 115-113 for Bivol, it's obvious won and not even close. I think 117-111/112 is fair considering Bivol almost dominated all the rounds and landed many clean punch. And that is what being the top crowd drawer can bring into the table. Not accusing the judges, but it seems that they really favor Canelo. Here he is the obvious loser, but as you can see, the one judge try to make the score closer but it's absurd because we really know who really win and that is not the right score. So still, thing kind of "biased judging" should be look upon in this fight. Otherwise, it will open up another round of controversies from boxing media and fans alike.
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June 02, 2022, 12:47:44 AM |
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Naturally, I am inclined to bet on GGG, because I think he is underestimated. But it may be more logical to bet on a knockout victory, since it is unlikely that he will be given the victory if he slightly outboxes Canello.
The thing is GGG is the challenger here, if the fight were really close, then the judges will decide Canelo will win. Looking on the scorecard where Canelo fought against Bivol, it doesn't make sense the judges scored 115-113 for Bivol, it's obvious won and not even close. I think 117-111/112 is fair considering Bivol almost dominated all the rounds and landed many clean punch. And that is what being the top crowd drawer can bring into the table. Not accusing the judges, but it seems that they really favor Canelo. Here he is the obvious loser, but as you can see, the one judge try to make the score closer but it's absurd because we really know who really win and that is not the right score. So still, thing kind of "biased judging" should be look upon in this fight. Otherwise, it will open up another round of controversies from boxing media and fans alike. All eyes will be on the judge for this fight for sure. And the organization should assure GGG that they will get a fair judges and referee as well because this could be the biggest event of the year and it's going to be sad to see GGG being rob again in this fight. On the other hand, if GGG doesn't want to go to the judges score card then he has to win very clear, a knock out against Canelo is very hard to get, but we've seen a lot of legendary and great boxers at one point in their career has their chin being exposed.
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June 02, 2022, 01:36:18 AM |
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At the age of 31, Canelo looks to be nearing retirement. He appeared to have lost his motivation, or been in too many wars against Bivol.
What sucks for GGG is he has only 1 loss on his record to Canelo. And many felt GGG won both fights. A case could be made for GGG being undefeated at this point in his carer.
GGG might have to knock Canelo out to get a win. Removing the judges from the equation is the only chance he has of winning. Commentators and judges are too biased in Canelo's favor.
Canelo to me is the most overrated boxer in the world. I don't understand how he gets so much hype behind him.
After Bivol destroyed him in the ring, he is not as overrated as before. It confuses me how quickly this fight was announced after the loss to Bivol - is it really done in order to return the “halo” of a big boxer for Canello? GGG is definitely a big name, but he is 40 years old and I will be very upset if Canello wins now just because of his age. It's true, Bivol with the beating he gave Canelo I think was enough to leave Canelo with almost no chance, it also surprises me that Canelo had a new fight so quickly, I think he has lost something, if everything goes well for Canelo this time could think about the match against GGG, for me GGG needs this fight with him much more, I think it is already a matter of honor and rivalry, for GGG he needs a victory with him more than ever, if GGG manages to have the fight with He may have one more star in his career, but if Canelo loses again I don't think such a fight can take place, I think the fns would not be very interested.
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June 02, 2022, 01:41:30 AM |
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At the age of 31, Canelo looks to be nearing retirement. He appeared to have lost his motivation, or been in too many wars against Bivol.
What sucks for GGG is he has only 1 loss on his record to Canelo. And many felt GGG won both fights. A case could be made for GGG being undefeated at this point in his carer.
GGG might have to knock Canelo out to get a win. Removing the judges from the equation is the only chance he has of winning. Commentators and judges are too biased in Canelo's favor.
Canelo to me is the most overrated boxer in the world. I don't understand how he gets so much hype behind him.
After Bivol destroyed him in the ring, he is not as overrated as before. It confuses me how quickly this fight was announced after the loss to Bivol - is it really done in order to return the “halo” of a big boxer for Canello? GGG is definitely a big name, but he is 40 years old and I will be very upset if Canello wins now just because of his age. It's true, Bivol with the beating he gave Canelo I think was enough to leave Canelo with almost no chance, it also surprises me that Canelo had a new fight so quickly, I think he has lost something, if everything goes well for Canelo this time could think about the match against GGG, for me GGG needs this fight with him much more, I think it is already a matter of honor and rivalry, for GGG he needs a victory with him more than ever, if GGG manages to have the fight with He may have one more star in his career, but if Canelo loses again I don't think such a fight can take place, I think the fns would not be very interested. It's more on the unknown territory that he want's to conquer. And then he hit a big wall in front of him in Bivol a legitimate 175 lbs. So Canelo's best weight is 168 lbs, as he looks very slow and has no power and lethargic at LHW. So now in this fight, he goes back to his comfort zone of super middleweight and then it's GGG that will not to go up to 168 lbs. I still think though that GGG is going to be at his best even if at 168 and has a good chance to win in the trilogy.
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June 02, 2022, 05:58:16 AM |
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Naturally, I am inclined to bet on GGG, because I think he is underestimated. But it may be more logical to bet on a knockout victory, since it is unlikely that he will be given the victory if he slightly outboxes Canello.
The thing is GGG is the challenger here, if the fight were really close, then the judges will decide Canelo will win. Looking on the scorecard where Canelo fought against Bivol, it doesn't make sense the judges scored 115-113 for Bivol, it's obvious won and not even close. I think 117-111/112 is fair considering Bivol almost dominated all the rounds and landed many clean punch. We know this is a problem with professional boxing, since boxing is a sport of appreciation there is always a chance judges can be bribed or simply have a bias which affects their judgment, without a doubt Bivol won the fight and he did by a wider margin than the official result, still the reputation of Canelo was enough to shorten the difference in the score, for GGG things will be even more difficult because officially he has lost against Canelo already, even if such result was very controversial as well.
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June 02, 2022, 06:17:01 AM |
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Naturally, I am inclined to bet on GGG, because I think he is underestimated. But it may be more logical to bet on a knockout victory, since it is unlikely that he will be given the victory if he slightly outboxes Canello.
The thing is GGG is the challenger here, if the fight were really close, then the judges will decide Canelo will win. Looking on the scorecard where Canelo fought against Bivol, it doesn't make sense the judges scored 115-113 for Bivol, it's obvious won and not even close. I think 117-111/112 is fair considering Bivol almost dominated all the rounds and landed many clean punch. We know this is a problem with professional boxing, since boxing is a sport of appreciation there is always a chance judges can be bribed or simply have a bias which affects their judgment, without a doubt Bivol won the fight and he did by a wider margin than the official result, still the reputation of Canelo was enough to shorten the difference in the score, for GGG things will be even more difficult because officially he has lost against Canelo already, even if such result was very controversial as well. If the loss is controversial there should be a succeeding fight to once and for all resolve it, I hate seeing boxers winning by a close margin when you looked at the fight it's not even close, I love to fight that end by knock out or stoppage, there's already a lot of matches in boxing history that are very controversial and deprived boxers of deserving wins. The first two fights between GGG and Canelo are too close to call I hope they can finally resolve it but I doubt it because they are both good in their last fights.
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June 02, 2022, 07:13:47 AM |
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This could have happened before the Bivol fight, but then again they are afraid Canelo might lost to GGG in a trilogy and their chance to take a shot on Bivol might gone. Well, what else can we expect, sports industry is more of a business now than an actual sport. GGG is now 40, but I think he still have enough left in his tank to beat Canelo or bring the fight as close as possible.
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June 02, 2022, 11:35:25 AM |
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This could have happened before the Bivol fight, but then again they are afraid Canelo might lost to GGG in a trilogy and their chance to take a shot on Bivol might gone. Well, what else can we expect, sports industry is more of a business now than an actual sport. GGG is now 40, but I think he still have enough left in his tank to beat Canelo or bring the fight as close as possible.
It was Canelo who challenged Bivol, GGG was just waiting for Canelo's yes, and now that he failed against Bivol, he choose to fight GGG so he will beck in the winning track again, however, I don't think it's easy for him to beat GGG, though GGG is quite old but he is not a left over.
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June 02, 2022, 12:51:59 PM |
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This could have happened before the Bivol fight, but then again they are afraid Canelo might lost to GGG in a trilogy and their chance to take a shot on Bivol might gone. Well, what else can we expect, sports industry is more of a business now than an actual sport. GGG is now 40, but I think he still have enough left in his tank to beat Canelo or bring the fight as close as possible.
It was Canelo who challenged Bivol, GGG was just waiting for Canelo's yes, and now that he failed against Bivol, he choose to fight GGG so he will beck in the winning track again, however, I don't think it's easy for him to beat GGG, though GGG is quite old but he is not a left over. Yeah, because he was really ambitious and tries to go up in weight after he became an undisputed champion. Since he failed, his option now is GGG as for sure he believes he has a good chance to beat GGG again and make big money again. Boxing nowadays are business, and since people requested this fight, we are now getting it soon.
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June 02, 2022, 01:54:09 PM |
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It's true, Bivol with the beating he gave Canelo I think was enough to leave Canelo with almost no chance, it also surprises me that Canelo had a new fight so quickly, I think he has lost something, if everything goes well for Canelo this time could think about the match against GGG, for me GGG needs this fight with him much more, I think it is already a matter of honor and rivalry, for GGG he needs a victory with him more than ever, if GGG manages to have the fight with He may have one more star in his career, but if Canelo loses again I don't think such a fight can take place, I think the fns would not be very interested.
I remember that match. It was just beautiful to watch. I must say that Bivol put out a stellar performance. But I must give credit to Canelo for taking risks and not being afraid like many fighters today are. I think it's part of the reason he got a new fight so quickly. On the other hand, the fight between Canelo and GGG is going to be personal for him considering he lost the first 2. In other words there no a second chance after this. He knows it could be the last time GGG fights.
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June 02, 2022, 02:10:54 PM |
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It's true, Bivol with the beating he gave Canelo I think was enough to leave Canelo with almost no chance, it also surprises me that Canelo had a new fight so quickly, I think he has lost something, if everything goes well for Canelo this time could think about the match against GGG, for me GGG needs this fight with him much more, I think it is already a matter of honor and rivalry, for GGG he needs a victory with him more than ever, if GGG manages to have the fight with He may have one more star in his career, but if Canelo loses again I don't think such a fight can take place, I think the fns would not be very interested.
I remember that match. It was just beautiful to watch. I must say that Bivol put out a stellar performance. But I must give credit to Canelo for taking risks and not being afraid like many fighters today are. I think it's part of the reason he got a new fight so quickly. On the other hand, the fight between Canelo and GGG is going to be personal for him considering he lost the first 2. In other words there no a second chance after this. He knows it could be the last time GGG fights. A trilogy is usually the final fight, the winner of the fight can be declared the best fighter between the two. Although Canelo already beat GGG twice, but some people are not happy or not convinced with his performance, therefore, this trilogy should happen and this would also give the fans an opportunity to see a big fight this year.
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June 02, 2022, 02:16:29 PM |
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Naturally, I am inclined to bet on GGG, because I think he is underestimated. But it may be more logical to bet on a knockout victory, since it is unlikely that he will be given the victory if he slightly outboxes Canello.
The thing is GGG is the challenger here, if the fight were really close, then the judges will decide Canelo will win. Looking on the scorecard where Canelo fought against Bivol, it doesn't make sense the judges scored 115-113 for Bivol, it's obvious won and not even close. I think 117-111/112 is fair considering Bivol almost dominated all the rounds and landed many clean punch. Yeah! the fight should end with KO or TKO reaching the official's decisions will turn out to be in Canelo's favor because he is the favorite boxer here. Nevertheless, this is an exciting fight because the fans are eager to see this one for the last time, and for GGG's accomplishment of his career as a boxer, it is best to conclude it here. Is just a normal scenario for the boxing industry that the judges are not watching the same fight as we are, they have their own so-called way of judging the fight and it is not praise-worthy at all.
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June 02, 2022, 03:09:35 PM |
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This could have happened before the Bivol fight, but then again they are afraid Canelo might lost to GGG in a trilogy and their chance to take a shot on Bivol might gone. Well, what else can we expect, sports industry is more of a business now than an actual sport. GGG is now 40, but I think he still have enough left in his tank to beat Canelo or bring the fight as close as possible.
It was Canelo who challenged Bivol, GGG was just waiting for Canelo's yes, and now that he failed against Bivol, he choose to fight GGG so he will beck in the winning track again, however, I don't think it's easy for him to beat GGG, though GGG is quite old but he is not a left over. Yeah, because he was really ambitious and tries to go up in weight after he became an undisputed champion. Since he failed, his option now is GGG as for sure he believes he has a good chance to beat GGG again and make big money again. Boxing nowadays are business, and since people requested this fight, we are now getting it soon. The money part influenced this fight the most, for sure. Alvarez camp knows and understand that instead of adding more belts in his career money is better than anything, just like what you said fans call for this fight and now both camps agree to make it possible, gamblers and those fans who awaited for this to happen are now ready to pick side and place their bets to whoever fighter they think that will win from this fight.
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June 02, 2022, 03:23:34 PM |
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This could have happened before the Bivol fight, but then again they are afraid Canelo might lost to GGG in a trilogy and their chance to take a shot on Bivol might gone. Well, what else can we expect, sports industry is more of a business now than an actual sport. GGG is now 40, but I think he still have enough left in his tank to beat Canelo or bring the fight as close as possible.
It was Canelo who challenged Bivol, GGG was just waiting for Canelo's yes, and now that he failed against Bivol, he choose to fight GGG so he will beck in the winning track again, however, I don't think it's easy for him to beat GGG, though GGG is quite old but he is not a left over. Yeah, because he was really ambitious and tries to go up in weight after he became an undisputed champion. Since he failed, his option now is GGG as for sure he believes he has a good chance to beat GGG again and make big money again. Boxing nowadays are business, and since people requested this fight, we are now getting it soon. The money part influenced this fight the most, for sure. Alvarez camp knows and understand that instead of adding more belts in his career money is better than anything, just like what you said fans call for this fight and now both camps agree to make it possible, gamblers and those fans who awaited for this to happen are now ready to pick side and place their bets to whoever fighter they think that will win from this fight. Both made millions of dollars on their last fight, and they will make massive money from PPV as for sure this fight will make the real boxing fans more interested to watch and pay for the premium live streaming. Good retirement fund for GGG if he will retire after this as it's always a big fight against Canelo, a chance to avenge his loss and to earn a decent amount.
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This could have happened before the Bivol fight, but then again they are afraid Canelo might lost to GGG in a trilogy and their chance to take a shot on Bivol might gone. Well, what else can we expect, sports industry is more of a business now than an actual sport. GGG is now 40, but I think he still have enough left in his tank to beat Canelo or bring the fight as close as possible.
It was Canelo who challenged Bivol, GGG was just waiting for Canelo's yes, and now that he failed against Bivol, he choose to fight GGG so he will beck in the winning track again, however, I don't think it's easy for him to beat GGG, though GGG is quite old but he is not a left over. Yeah, because he was really ambitious and tries to go up in weight after he became an undisputed champion. Since he failed, his option now is GGG as for sure he believes he has a good chance to beat GGG again and make big money again. Boxing nowadays are business, and since people requested this fight, we are now getting it soon. The money part influenced this fight the most, for sure. Alvarez camp knows and understand that instead of adding more belts in his career money is better than anything, just like what you said fans call for this fight and now both camps agree to make it possible, gamblers and those fans who awaited for this to happen are now ready to pick side and place their bets to whoever fighter they think that will win from this fight. Both made millions of dollars on their last fight, and they will make massive money from PPV as for sure this fight will make the real boxing fans more interested to watch and pay for the premium live streaming. Good retirement fund for GGG if he will retire after this as it's always a big fight against Canelo, a chance to avenge his loss and to earn a decent amount. Canelo is still in the process of establishing a good name in the industry and after his lost with Bivol, he will just take this match as an opportunity to make noise and gain fame. GGG is a legend so Canelo must take a lot of courage to beat him. Yes, it wi be a good retirement fund for GGG and if he'll beat Canelo by knockout, he'll surely create a good mark on the boxing ring before he retires.
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June 02, 2022, 03:44:23 PM |
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Canelo is still in the process of establishing a good name in the industry and after his lost with Bivol, he will just take this match as an opportunity to make noise and gain fame.
He is already a popular fighter, after he became an undisputed champion, he was just testing his faith on the heavier weight but he cannot carry his power, so he loss on the fight, but despite that, people still respect Canelo and believe he is a great boxer. GGG is a legend so Canelo must take a lot of courage to beat him. Yes, it wi be a good retirement fund for GGG and if he'll beat Canelo by knockout, he'll surely create a good mark on the boxing ring before he retires.
Canelo will also be a legend soon, I think he has more accomplishment than GGG as a boxer, so he just has to fight the way he used to, and I'm sure he will not adjust as he already beat GGG twice on their last 2 meetings.
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June 02, 2022, 04:24:34 PM |
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And that is what being the top crowd drawer can bring into the table. Not accusing the judges, but it seems that they really favor Canelo. Here he is the obvious loser, but as you can see, the one judge try to make the score closer but it's absurd because we really know who really win and that is not the right score. So still, thing kind of "biased judging" should be look upon in this fight. Otherwise, it will open up another round of controversies from boxing media and fans alike.
All eyes will be on the judge for this fight for sure. And the organization should assure GGG that they will get a fair judges and referee as well because this could be the biggest event of the year and it's going to be sad to see GGG being rob again in this fight. On the other hand, if GGG doesn't want to go to the judges score card then he has to win very clear, a knock out against Canelo is very hard to get, but we've seen a lot of legendary and great boxers at one point in their career has their chin being exposed. This is better because at least we also pay attention to the judge whether his judgment will be partial or not later, but if indeed things like this have been focused on but still side with one party then this would be outrageous. and the only way as you said GGG must win clearly here even though it is indeed quite difficult but I hope there is something interesting here
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June 02, 2022, 06:51:02 PM |
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This could have happened before the Bivol fight, but then again they are afraid Canelo might lost to GGG in a trilogy and their chance to take a shot on Bivol might gone. Well, what else can we expect, sports industry is more of a business now than an actual sport. GGG is now 40, but I think he still have enough left in his tank to beat Canelo or bring the fight as close as possible.
It was Canelo who challenged Bivol, GGG was just waiting for Canelo's yes, and now that he failed against Bivol, he choose to fight GGG so he will beck in the winning track again, however, I don't think it's easy for him to beat GGG, though GGG is quite old but he is not a left over. He thinks that he can redeem himself again after that defeat he got against Bivol in this fight. Sure, GGG is have gone older now compared to their last fight in 2018 and he has the advantage as Canelo is much more comfortable in this fight as this is his comfort weight class but GGG can still give a fight and maybe even defeat him. I doubt defeating GGG once again in this trilogy won't hype his name because this match is not that interesting to see anymore because of their gap and it was already 4 years since their last clash.
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June 06, 2022, 09:47:52 PM |
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To pump us all, ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) here is the official fight trailer by DAZN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4WThfLmqQYSeems that fans are still rooting for GGG to win even if they say that he is past his prime already. But we can see that he can pull that trigger with a good win against Murata. And then Bivol upsets Canelo in their fight. But the two are true Warriors and I assume everyone is very excited. Even the press conference for sure will be crowded by fans of both fighters, just imagine the atmosphere.
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