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Author Topic: 📯📍Rollbit | 2025/26 Champions League Pool | ⚽️ Discussion | ~$15,000 prizes!  (Read 40550 times)
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April 26, 2025, 11:36:12 AM
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I don't think PSG can be an example that shows this. The fact that they failed two seasons in a row when the "best" player in the world (but in fact a lazy pensioner) + fragile Neymar (who was never good over a distance) played there does not prove anything. Rather the opposite - to succeed you need to gather the best players, not the best brands. Now when I look at the PSG squad I have no doubt that there are several players there who are among the best in the world.

To succeed you need to gather the best players talents and build a team, not the best players. PSG bought the biggest and the greatest players and yet couldn't dominate Europe.

PSG can't be praised just yet. Winning Ligue in France was always easy for them, and winning 1 Champions League is not going to prove anything for longterm.

Keep this team fighting for glory 2 or 3 seasons in a row, then its proof.

To succeed most consistently, as you say, always build the team, Leverkusen, Liverpool, even honestly Dortmund and Ajax before, showed you can truly do this, even if your players aren't stars. I still know quite a number of players in PSG when they joined. Dembele, Kvara, Hakimi, Donnarumma, Marquinos, well honestly these were superstars when they came but nowhere of course near to Neymar Mbappe.

But when I first got to know Leverkusen? If not for Alonso, I would be who the hell is Boniface? Also same Liverpool, players who suddenly became so important and making teams feared everywhere, I barely knew Salah, Mane and. Er who else.

I will say the same for Nottingham Forest but only if they maintain. For now, jury out.

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April 26, 2025, 09:09:41 PM
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PSG can't be praised just yet. Winning Ligue in France was always easy for them, and winning 1 Champions League is not going to prove anything for longterm.

I'm already impressed with their performance this season, whether they win the CL or not I'm satisfied. From losing Messi, Neymar and Mbappe within 2 summers to CL semi final.

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To succeed most consistently, as you say, always build the team, Leverkusen, Liverpool, even honestly Dortmund and Ajax before, showed you can truly do this, even if your players aren't stars. I still know quite a number of players in PSG when they joined. Dembele, Kvara, Hakimi, Donnarumma, Marquinos, well honestly these were superstars when they came but nowhere of course near to Neymar Mbappe.

You added Liverpool to the list like we wouldn't notice. Everyone in their starting lineup except the RB and LB positions were already established first team players in their respective clubs before Liverpool got them, and none of them came cheap.

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April 27, 2025, 09:34:06 AM
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PSG can't be praised just yet. Winning Ligue in France was always easy for them, and winning 1 Champions League is not going to prove anything for longterm.

Keep this team fighting for glory 2 or 3 seasons in a row, then its proof.

Why I see a point in what you're saying is because PSG is an elite club and not some small clubs that they should be praised for being one season wonder. PSG winning the champions league is going to be a great achievement for them but they can't just win one and then expect us to praise them. They should be capable of repeating similar success as they do in their league in Europe too. That club is spending lots for money from the past decade so they should have to perform well. Messi and Neymar didn't bring much success to the club, so their departure wasn't a big deal. It was Mbappe that had an impact but so far, it seems they have become better without him.

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April 27, 2025, 12:39:48 PM
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You added Liverpool to the list like we wouldn't notice. Everyone in their starting lineup except the RB and LB positions were already established first team players in their respective clubs before Liverpool got them, and none of them came cheap.

I know. But established team players in Southampton and Basel and Roma are different from established players in Napoli and Barca. (Talking about Salah and Mane and Alisson for example that I recall Liverpool got, I honestly didn't know much about them until they joined Liverpool). Honestly even remember watching Roma Liverpool and I thought Alisson was so-so let in 5 goals lol and they were midtable in Italy.

So the players I named that PSG got, they were all even shortlist for best players or Ballon nominees and come from Champions clubs. Dembele, Kvara, Hakimi donarumma, you know all these names from before, and all came with titles and medals. I believe the teams I mention, Leverkusen, the first Klopp Liverpool, the first Klopp Dortmund, very few if any players in those amazing teams won anything before. When PSG lifted Ligue 1, more than half the team already knew how it feels to win an even bigger title. You have at least from last season when they started building CL winners, Serie A winners, La Liga winners, World Cup winners, EURO winners, that I can think of from the few names I mentioned.

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I know. But established team players in Southampton and Basel and Roma are different from established players in Napoli and Barca. (Talking about Salah and Mane and Alisson for example that I recall Liverpool got, I honestly didn't know much about them until they joined Liverpool). Honestly even remember watching Roma Liverpool and I thought Alisson was so-so let in 5 goals lol and they were midtable in Italy.

All the three players you mentioned were on every clubs whitelist and came to Liverpool at a very high record breaking fees. They were already best players in their respective clubs, Liverpool only game them class. You didn't pick Salah from Basel, he already played for Chelsea, Florentina, Roma and one time best player in Italia.

One day someone would argue that Liverpool got Mc Allister when he was nobody but we already know he was an established player before joining Liverpool. That's my point

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What a diferent feel it gives me to put the options for potB being only 2 games, i feel like i need more options or more games.

For this round i dont know what to expect, in the end we are in semifinals and i dont see a team much above another one, so every result can be possible.

Even the "secure" pick are not so safe to made, and maybe for someone who are far behind is worth to risk big.

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Gone for some very high odds in the Pot B though I acknowledge that I have almost 0 chances to hit them yet I liked a lot the L.Martinez to score 2+ goals at 11.50 odd, there is only one thing I don't like as a change from this year, we cannot place 10 points to a single bet which is totally needed in a Pot like this in order to always have chances of doing nasty things like getting to top spot from 20th for example  Grin. For Pot A I don't think much will change as most people will continue to place favorite bets in order to try to keep their places and hope to jump a few, especially the top 10 which are still in fight for a top 5 prize spots, prize spots tighter this year also, as 5 only prize spots makes sure next year not as many people will join such type of pool, was much better at 10 prize spots.

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Gentlemen, one of the best semifinal matchups in recent times (in my opnion) is now upon us and we proceed to do battle over these final stages. Pot A may very well be decided in most cases but we will always have a chance of unexpected hauls in Pot B, and I think some of you might enjoy what's on offer.

I really do enjoy the odds there, problems are if Im going to hit them  Grin. Since I guess there is no way for me to win anymore, placing all my points on high odds options would be the only logical way for me to win some free bets

For Pot A I don't think much will change as most people will continue to place favorite bets in order to try to keep their places and hope to jump a few,

Yeah in Superbru, the ranks wont change that much even if you hit 2 exact points this round. Pretty sure that some of the current top 5 would hit atleast 3 points on this round to keep their current ranks so yeah it wont differ that much on Superbru

 
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Even the "secure" pick are not so safe to made, and maybe for someone who are far behind is worth to risk big.

There are actually bo safe picks any more, lol. In the early I used to love the simple 1, X or 2 options and I find some of them to have pretty decent odds, but it’s transitioned to a more complicated inclusion of BTTS or Handicap.

Unlike some others, I tend to like the fact that the leaderboard is somewhat safe for those who have earned their place over the course of the competition and cannot just get undone by someone going for a max 10 stake in just one round and get lucky.

 
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There are actually bo safe picks any more, lol. In the early I used to love the simple 1, X or 2 options and I find some of them to have pretty decent odds, but it’s transitioned to a more complicated inclusion of BTTS or Handicap.

Unlike some others, I tend to like the fact that the leaderboard is somewhat safe for those who have earned their place over the course of the competition and cannot just get undone by someone going for a max 10 stake in just one round and get lucky.

That's why I like this format. 2 pots for 2 styles. Superbru rewards those who steadily climb. Pot B is for chaos. Most football fans like chaos we all love those teams who just go for broke lol and thats why as a Barca fan this is one of the teams I love the most, we're just attacking like nobody's business no matter the score.

All the three players you mentioned were on every clubs whitelist and came to Liverpool at a very high record breaking fees. They were already best players in their respective clubs, Liverpool only game them class. You didn't pick Salah from Basel, he already played for Chelsea, Florentina, Roma and one time best player in Italia.

One day someone would argue that Liverpool got Mc Allister when he was nobody but we already know he was an established player before joining Liverpool. That's my point

Fair fair, I didn't know Salah was a best player in Italia at the time, not bad achievement at all for midtable Roma, but I was talking about breakout teams in first seasons, MacAllister already joined a title winning team Smiley  PSG's breakout team is not the same as Dortmund Liverpool Leverkusen breakout teams. That was my point.

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Have to admit I am rooting for PSG to beat Arsenal tonight. We can’t have Arsenal winning the CL. It’s one of the banter disses to slate Arsenal fans for having 0 European Cups in their entire history.

I think Arsenal will put up a good fight tonight though and the crowd will be really up for it. Let’s see how good this PSG team really is or will they choke like the Mbappe, Neymar, Messi era did?

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Have to admit I am rooting for PSG to beat Arsenal tonight. We can’t have Arsenal winning the CL. It’s one of the banter disses to slate Arsenal fans for having 0 European Cups in their entire history.

I think Arsenal will put up a good fight tonight though and the crowd will be really up for it. Let’s see how good this PSG team really is or will they choke like the Mbappe, Neymar, Messi era did?

I honestly respect them more than any other English club bar LFC. Would rather they win it than Barcelona or Inter.

Would also prefer PSG though - I've said many times already, I love how they assembled that team. Young with loads of quality, playing attractive. Sky's the limit if they keep them together.

 
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April 29, 2025, 06:11:46 PM
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Have to admit I am rooting for PSG to beat Arsenal tonight. We can’t have Arsenal winning the CL. It’s one of the banter disses to slate Arsenal fans for having 0 European Cups in their entire history.

I think Arsenal will put up a good fight tonight though and the crowd will be really up for it. Let’s see how good this PSG team really is or will they choke like the Mbappe, Neymar, Messi era did?

I honestly respect them more than any other English club bar LFC. Would rather they win it than Barcelona or Inter.

Would also prefer PSG though - I've said many times already, I love how they assembled that team. Young with loads of quality, playing attractive. Sky's the limit if they keep them together.

I think it ends Arsenal as a winner and both teams to score as I think Arsenal clearly has the quality to beat any team especially after what they did to Real Madrid during the quarter finals. PSG is a good team I acknowledge that though so far I have seen them never being as mature as it is needed to be a Champions League winner as I think they may have a really good chance at giving a shot to win the Champions League if they manage a good result tonight against Arsenal. I don't think the fact that Arsenal has 0 European Cups so far in their whole history will be a show stopper for them, I think psychologically they are the best fit team as they don't care what happens, they just want to give it all and hope for the best, I am sure the fans won't be pressuring them, in fact quite the opposite they will support them till the end no matter how it ends this campaign in Europe.

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April 29, 2025, 06:13:21 PM
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Would also prefer PSG though - I've said many times already, I love how they assembled that team. Young with loads of quality, playing attractive. Sky's the limit if they keep them together.

They’ve improved drastically compared to when they seemed to have a host of all the biggest names in their team, they have now have a better team when you consider results and chemistry, and it doesn’t cost a leg, unlike when they had Messi, Neymar and Mbappe all together. Sticking with Luis Enrique is another very good decision they club made.

 
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April 29, 2025, 09:11:58 PM
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Arsenal maybe lucky to still be in the tie with PSG missing two great chances at the end.

I think PSG will win in Paris, I do not see this Arsenal team being able to do enough.

They have a punchers chance though and in Saka have an elite player.

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April 29, 2025, 09:52:46 PM
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Would also prefer PSG though - I've said many times already, I love how they assembled that team. Young with loads of quality, playing attractive. Sky's the limit if they keep them together.

They’ve improved drastically compared to when they seemed to have a host of all the biggest names in their team, they have now have a better team when you consider results and chemistry, and it doesn’t cost a leg, unlike when they had Messi, Neymar and Mbappe all together. Sticking with Luis Enrique is another very good decision they club made.
It's something that we didn't expect PSG to be able to shine without expensive players spending hundreds of millions of euros, but PSG is now more compact with a team of this size because Luis Enrique changed from the previous game to be more aggressive.

Winning at home to Arsenal is something valuable for him, only need to win again at home to PSG then the final is in front of their eyes.
Honestly, we wrongly predicted that in this match Arsenal would win, but obviously our predictions were wrong, in addition Arsenal are often inconsistent when they want to go to the top, ah there is no difference when they are in the PL.
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April 29, 2025, 10:29:29 PM
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PSG win was no surprise for me, but I expected more from Arsenal maybe a goal scored.
I chickened out for tonight game in Champions League, and I could not find what I like so I tried two predictions and failed.
This gave me 1.5 points in Superbru, but Pot B gave me zero points, and I see only few guys won something in Pot B today  Grin

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April 29, 2025, 10:40:52 PM
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Arsenal maybe lucky to still be in the tie with PSG missing two great chances at the end.

I think PSG will win in Paris, I do not see this Arsenal team being able to do enough.

They have a punchers chance though and in Saka have an elite player.

Lucky to be down 1-0, PSG had too many chances to kill the game in tonight- now they will have to over work in Paris as Arsenal will be putting everything on the line for the second leg. Ode and Saka were nowhere to be found today.

There's a lot to play for in the second leg. I still don't want Arsenal to progress.

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