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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
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October 27, 2022, 03:33:28 PM
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It's like we are seeing the same scenario for two seasons especially.

Some big teams are unexpectedly eliminated in the Champions League and they continue on their way in the Europa League. This time there are teams like Barcelona, Atletico Madrid, Juventus and Ajax for example. Atletico Madrid might not even qualify for the Europa League though depending on the results on the final week. There is Sevilla there also but I don't see it interesting because they are known by the Europa League more actually. Because they won the title there so many times.  Grin

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October 27, 2022, 03:48:25 PM
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Last night when the score was already 3 - 0 I had turned off the television because I was very sure that Inter Milan would win and be the runner up of the group. This is the second time in a row Barcelona have dropped into the Europa League, after last season they also suffered the same fate.
I just stop to watch it after intermilan has been scoring the second goal to the plzen. The worst achievement by xavi. Why the hell people are still calling him as a good coach. that doesn't even make sense to see that. I remember when some barcelona's players were mocking that wanted to buy them all just like kounde. This guy was mocking chelsea and thiago was doing the same once he was seeing barcelona can't achieve the full points against intermilan.
Just caused by lewandoski became top scorer in the la liga and it doesn't mean the club will get trophies. Top scorer was nothing if your team was not even winning a single trophy.  Grin

Lol, even I won't be sure to watch it for the Inter match, because of course Inter will win against Plzen yesterday, because Inter are also playing at home which of course Inter will win the match. Therefore, I was even sure long before the match started, that Barcelona would be eliminated as happened for Juventus. They both have had problems with the wrong coach, because if I consider the squad they have they should have gone further in the Champions League this season. But sadly, their coach is a complete mess because even though Xavi did well in La Liga but Xavi didn't succeed in the Champions League, and for Allegri it was a very chaotic coach.

But regarding Barcelona and Juventus, it seems that they still have different fates in this European tournament, because Barcelona has been eliminated in the Champions League but Barcelona is certain to continue to play in the Europa League. But for Juventus, because currently Juventus' points are still the same as Maccabi Haifa, it is still uncertain whether Juventus will continue to the Europa League or not.
If in the last match Maccabi Haifa, for example, got points and Juventus lost, then of course Juventus would be completely eliminated from the European competition. But because PSG and Benfica will certainly still be competing to win the group, then of course PSG and Benfica still have a chance to win and if that happens then Juventus will continue to advance to the Europa League.

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October 27, 2022, 03:58:43 PM
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When the group matches didn't start yet I was pretty confident about Barcelona to qualify for next stage with Bayern Munich. I was even indecisive about whether they would finish as leader.  Grin  Because Bayern Munich didn't start the Bundesliga well and they were lacking a striker. But now things are completely the opposite.

Barcelona are just in a really interesting situation. They are doing good in the La Liga when we take the results they have got in general so far. But they just can't reflect the same performance on bigger matches in the Champions League. They collected only one point against Bayern Munich and Inter in total. Can you imagine how horrible statistics this is? I wonder what Xavi is thinking about this situation. But clearly he doesn't intend to change anything in the team for now.

It's true, what happened to Barcelona was very surprising in the UCL this season, even last month someone said that Inter Milan would not be able to qualify for the knockout round, but my prediction can still be proven, because at that time I saw the distance between Inter and Barcelona. not far. The defeat experienced by Barcelona will certainly be an important lesson for Xavi, because his players still have many weaknesses which could be these weaknesses also occur in La-Liga in the future.

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October 27, 2022, 04:02:14 PM
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Last night when the score was already 3 - 0 I had turned off the television because I was very sure that Inter Milan would win and be the runner up of the group. This is the second time in a row Barcelona have dropped into the Europa League, after last season they also suffered the same fate.
It really hurts but I'm sure they have fought for a place despite the disappointing result. I didn't expect Barcelona to have to drop out of the Champions League so quickly, but I really know they are in the most difficult group based on the quality of the team. The result was disappointing, but I really saw an improvement in the quality of the players they had even though their defense was still very weak against big teams.
I think Xavi hasn't even been Barcelona manager for a year and he's already sent them down from the Champions League to the Europa League TWICE. which he said Generation manager.
barcelona now it's Ball possession and number of passes always wins, but 0 shots on goal. Definition of "win unnecessarily, play beautiful number one"
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October 27, 2022, 04:11:08 PM
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I think Xavi hasn't even been Barcelona manager for a year and he's already sent them down from the Champions League to the Europa League TWICE. which he said Generation manager.
barcelona now it's Ball possession and number of passes always wins, but 0 shots on goal. Definition of "win unnecessarily, play beautiful number one"
There are times to play beautifully without the need to score more goals against the opponent, for example like in the last match for the Champions League group. If a team has confirmed itself to qualify for the round of 16, then in the last match it's time to play beautifully even though they don't get another win. Because the main thing that the team must aim for is a win to put the team in a position it deserves and wants, not in a position like the one occupied by Barcelona now.

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October 27, 2022, 04:11:40 PM
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It really was a tough group. Barcelona is a better team than Inter, but it isn't sensational that they are not going through to the knockouts.
Last year it was Benfica that was ahead of them (with Bayern topping the group once again) and that was something that a club of such stature should be avoiding.

They will be one of the favorites to win the EL for sure, and that was not the case last season.
The match always changes the facts that happen on the field even though Barcelona this season still can't beat Inter Milan which incidentally is stronger than Inter Milan but that's where the champions league side is unexpected and a big surprise that we know the results now.

Even though the Champions League competition ends and the Europa League ends, Barcelona must continue to fight there, many other big teams have to enter here so it is possible that Barcelona will experience difficult things again, and it seems like 3 representatives of LaLiga will leave the Europa League to continue Their mission is to win the trophy.

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October 27, 2022, 04:27:18 PM
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Management that is not too good actually has been felt from the previous few seasons but it is getting better in my opinion. Barcelona's problem is quite complicated right now so we can't really blame just one party because of course something like this has become a common mistake.
It is also difficult for them to change management now because of course this is still related to financial conditions.
I don't know what's wrong with Barcelona's management, I think it's good as expected but the results of his campaign this season are not very impressive. Barcelona failed to advance to the last 16 of the Champions League actually not because they don't have good management, it's because 3 out of 4 teams in the group are strong teams and I think people shouldn't ignore that.

The problem is not as complicated as I think, I really see things differently from their performance in Laliga where Barcelona are able to maintain a consistent game with only 3 points away from the leader of the table. This season's Champions League is difficult for Barcelona, ​​the same may be recognized by all the teams in the group but if Barcelona are ready on all fronts then the result may not be the same.
Indeed, in this case we also cannot ignore the fact that in their group there are Bayern and Inter but it is clear in terms of actual performance that Barcelona is more superior than Inter.
Their consistency was disrupted when some of their core players were injured and it became a bit complicated when Xavi couldn't make up for this with the existing players so their balance was a little shaky with the hectic schedule and some big games that had to be passed in the midst of their condition not being 100 percent strong because of some problems. their players leave.

But that doesn't matter now because they have nothing to say now and have to accept that their place is the Europa League.

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October 27, 2022, 05:05:54 PM
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Last night when the score was already 3 - 0 I had turned off the television because I was very sure that Inter Milan would win and be the runner up of the group. This is the second time in a row Barcelona have dropped into the Europa League, after last season they also suffered the same fate.
It really hurts but I'm sure they have fought for a place despite the disappointing result. I didn't expect Barcelona to have to drop out of the Champions League so quickly, but I really know they are in the most difficult group based on the quality of the team. The result was disappointing, but I really saw an improvement in the quality of the players they had even though their defense was still very weak against big teams.
I think Xavi hasn't even been Barcelona manager for a year and he's already sent them down from the Champions League to the Europa League TWICE. which he said Generation manager.
barcelona now it's Ball possession and number of passes always wins, but 0 shots on goal. Definition of "win unnecessarily, play beautiful number one"
Actually Barca did 1 shout on goal, but still it is very sad, especially for Barcelona, which was always famous for the excellent game in the attack, when Havi was still a game and assisted Messi with the Iniesta.
Barca game looks very strange in the attack loolks like this is a real crisis of ideas in the attack by Barcelona.
Well, somewhere the young talent of Fati immediately disappeared, along with the Dembele. In general, there is nothing to do with such a game in the attack in the playoff.

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October 27, 2022, 05:15:01 PM
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>Snip
And it seems like you are more familiar with them.

Very sad indeed, because Barcelona was not able to give their best in the Champions League group phase this season, as well as last season. Actually, when Inter Milan won yesterday against Viktoria Plzen, Barcelona's position was also eliminated to go to the next round, coupled with Barcelona who lost at home against Bayern Munich, it was clear that Barcelona had to go home disappointed and forget about Champions League this season.
Seeing how bad the results of Barcelona this season, lost their big names and unable to advance to the next round, very bad achievements following the results they received. Barcelona players are now a young force in Xavi Hernandez's long -term project, and of course it takes time to build and make the team more developed.

But for big clubs, this is a step back for them, considering that there are still other clubs that rely on young players, but look quite consistent until now in the Champions League.

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Barcelona has not let it down in this match. It is also not entirely fair to give an accurate analysis of this match, as Inter Milan had already won 4-0 beforehand and so Barcelona already knew that they were eliminated from the Champions League. Then I can imagine that the necessary motivation problems have started to arise. Maybe it is good for Barcelona to play in the Europa League, they can certainly win that tournament, but they are not the top favourite. I would like to see Barcelona - Arsenal.

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October 27, 2022, 05:25:21 PM
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Real Madrid stars play very well compared to Barcelona stars. A few days ago, Real Madrid and Barcelona played, and Barcelona beat 3-1goal.
UEFA champion League 2022/2023 Real Madrid, Manchester City, Barcelona, ​​PSG, Arsenal and many other good teams are among the best teams. But I think Real Madrid and Manchester City are the most likely to win this Champions League.
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October 27, 2022, 05:25:47 PM
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Barcelona has not let it down in this match. It is also not entirely fair to give an accurate analysis of this match, as Inter Milan had already won 4-0 beforehand and so Barcelona already knew that they were eliminated from the Champions League. Then I can imagine that the necessary motivation problems have started to arise. Maybe it is good for Barcelona to play in the Europa League, they can certainly win that tournament, but they are not the top favourite. I would like to see Barcelona - Arsenal.

Despite having a lot of talented players in Barcelona, ​​they are not performing as well as expected. Their match strategy is very weak. A change in match strategy is required. There are a lot of problems within the Barcelona team. Slowly Xavi is trying to stabilize and strengthen his team. The Barcelona team needs more time to strengthen. Although Barcelona had a strong squad, they were not favourites for the Champions League. But I thought they could qualify for the knockout round. However, disappointing the fans, Barcelona is eliminated from the first round. This is very sad.

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October 27, 2022, 05:32:34 PM
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It's like we are seeing the same scenario for two seasons especially.

Some big teams are unexpectedly eliminated in the Champions League and they continue on their way in the Europa League. This time there are teams like Barcelona, Atletico Madrid, Juventus and Ajax for example. Atletico Madrid might not even qualify for the Europa League though depending on the results on the final week. There is Sevilla there also but I don't see it interesting because they are known by the Europa League more actually. Because they won the title there so many times.  Grin
it was a surprise that happened in the ucl this season. how impossible it is for Barcelona not to qualify for the next round and of course no one thought they had to play in the Europa League but in reality it all happened. well one fate maybe we will see group E where we will see an opportunity from Ac milan to qualify for the next round in the life and death match against Rb salzburg because if AC milan loses then the euro league will await them and vice versa. This season's champions league was full of surprises in the group phase where Barcelona, ​​Juventus, and Ajax had to go home first due to loss after loss. PSG, Bayern, Manchester City and Real Madrid are still the strongest candidates in the UCL and I think the knockout round will be quite an interesting spectacle.

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October 27, 2022, 07:07:45 PM
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it was a surprise that happened in the ucl this season. how impossible it is for Barcelona not to qualify for the next round and of course no one thought they had to play in the Europa League but in reality it all happened. well one fate maybe we will see group E where we will see an opportunity from Ac milan to qualify for the next round in the life and death match against Rb salzburg because if AC milan loses then the euro league will await them and vice versa. This season's champions league was full of surprises in the group phase where Barcelona, ​​Juventus, and Ajax had to go home first due to loss after loss. PSG, Bayern, Manchester City and Real Madrid are still the strongest candidates in the UCL and I think the knockout round will be quite an interesting spectacle.
The next round in the Champions League is always the interesting one as they have mostly one chance to get into next round .
For Barcelona i am not surprised that they got kicked out from the Group as there was very good teams beside Viktoria Pilsen.
The most interesting Group is where Frankfurt is playing as every team there has the chance to get into the next round stil.

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October 27, 2022, 07:10:59 PM
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It's like we are seeing the same scenario for two seasons especially.

Some big teams are unexpectedly eliminated in the Champions League and they continue on their way in the Europa League. This time there are teams like Barcelona, Atletico Madrid, Juventus and Ajax for example. Atletico Madrid might not even qualify for the Europa League though depending on the results on the final week. There is Sevilla there also but I don't see it interesting because they are known by the Europa League more actually. Because they won the title there so many times.  Grin
it was a surprise that happened in the ucl this season. how impossible it is for Barcelona not to qualify for the next round and of course no one thought they had to play in the Europa League but in reality it all happened. well one fate maybe we will see group E where we will see an opportunity from Ac milan to qualify for the next round in the life and death match against Rb salzburg because if AC milan loses then the euro league will await them and vice versa. This season's champions league was full of surprises in the group phase where Barcelona, ​​Juventus, and Ajax had to go home first due to loss after loss. PSG, Bayern, Manchester City and Real Madrid are still the strongest candidates in the UCL and I think the knockout round will be quite an interesting spectacle.

I think what is actually so concerning about Barcelona now getting into the Europa League is that it has happened for the second time in a row. That is probably a historic event, I haven't fact checked that though. Thinking back to the times when Messi was still there, it was unimaginable that Barcelona would ever play Europa League let alone two years in a row. I am curious how they are going to be dealing with it as it also entails further problems financially. Signing new players is much harder, keeping good players is harder and sponsorships might also become less attractive over time. Now the last point I mentioned won't play a role yet as Barcelona has its reputation and it is still great, but if they keep failing to qualify for the final round in the Champions League that reputation will also start to fall apart at some point.

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October 27, 2022, 07:15:13 PM
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This is really good. You predicted the future very easily, and all the predictions were logical. I also agree with you. But in the match between Bayern Munich and Barcelona, ​​I would like to give Barcelona a 70% chance to win. Because the game will be held at the Camp Nou due to which Barça will get different support.


Well, thanks for that, but some games never really align sometimes, well Dortmund VS Man City became a draw 0 - 0 full respect to Kobel for his awesome defense, pretty much it was really a close match and Dortmund is familiar with Erling Halland's movements so they are aware of it and used this as their advantage in not letting Manchester City winning the game it is OK to get a draw than Manchester City winning this, and Leipzig VS Real Madrid is a close game but Real Madrid really did a great job, but it was not enough and Leipzig have come up victorious,

But the match that I guessed was the match between Barcelona VS Bayern Munich, which end up with Bayern Munich winning the familiarity of Bayern Munich Lewandowski's gameplay, does solidify the winning of the team, Ajax VS Liverpool is an easy prediction, for me to predict Liverpool could win, while Napoli VS Rangers is like the Ajax Liverpool game, it was an easy prediction,
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October 27, 2022, 07:16:53 PM
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It's like we are seeing the same scenario for two seasons especially.

Some big teams are unexpectedly eliminated in the Champions League and they continue on their way in the Europa League. This time there are teams like Barcelona, Atletico Madrid, Juventus and Ajax for example. Atletico Madrid might not even qualify for the Europa League though depending on the results on the final week. There is Sevilla there also but I don't see it interesting because they are known by the Europa League more actually. Because they won the title there so many times.  Grin
it was a surprise that happened in the ucl this season. how impossible it is for Barcelona not to qualify for the next round and of course no one thought they had to play in the Europa League but in reality it all happened. well one fate maybe we will see group E where we will see an opportunity from Ac milan to qualify for the next round in the life and death match against Rb salzburg because if AC milan loses then the euro league will await them and vice versa. This season's champions league was full of surprises in the group phase where Barcelona, ​​Juventus, and Ajax had to go home first due to loss after loss. PSG, Bayern, Manchester City and Real Madrid are still the strongest candidates in the UCL and I think the knockout round will be quite an interesting spectacle.

I think what is actually so concerning about Barcelona now getting into the Europa League is that it has happened for the second time in a row. That is probably a historic event, I haven't fact checked that though. Thinking back to the times when Messi was still there, it was unimaginable that Barcelona would ever play Europa League let alone two years in a row. I am curious how they are going to be dealing with it as it also entails further problems financially. Signing new players is much harder, keeping good players is harder and sponsorships might also become less attractive over time. Now the last point I mentioned won't play a role yet as Barcelona has its reputation and it is still great, but if they keep failing to qualify for the final round in the Champions League that reputation will also start to fall apart at some point.
Currently, there are very talented players in Barcelona in terms of the quality of the player pool. Strategies and game order in the game did not fully understand, there is still a problem there. This year, the club you mentioned has worn itself out financially. The Champions League was very important. For now, they should focus on the league cup, they have a very strong rival there, it's difficult, in short, Barcelona's

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October 27, 2022, 07:26:21 PM
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I don't know what's wrong with Barcelona's management, I think it's good as expected but the results of his campaign this season are not very impressive. Barcelona failed to advance to the last 16 of the Champions League actually not because they don't have good management, it's because 3 out of 4 teams in the group are strong teams and I think people shouldn't ignore that.

The problem is not as complicated as I think, I really see things differently from their performance in Laliga where Barcelona are able to maintain a consistent game with only 3 points away from the leader of the table. This season's Champions League is difficult for Barcelona, ​​the same may be recognized by all the teams in the group but if Barcelona are ready on all fronts then the result may not be the same.
Indeed, in this case we also cannot ignore the fact that in their group there are Bayern and Inter but it is clear in terms of actual performance that Barcelona is more superior than Inter.
Their consistency was disrupted when some of their core players were injured and it became a bit complicated when Xavi couldn't make up for this with the existing players so their balance was a little shaky with the hectic schedule and some big games that had to be passed in the midst of their condition not being 100 percent strong because of some problems. their players leave.

But that doesn't matter now because they have nothing to say now and have to accept that their place is the Europa League.
Inter is definitely worse than Barcelona in many aspects but the fact is that it was just 6 game series and within like just 4 games Barcelona already lost their chances. Bayern is not unachievable levels for barcelona neither, at the start of the season when they built this roster people believed that they could have finished the group at top, or maybe fail and be second but beating Bayern wasn't impossible.

Now looking back, not only they lost to Bayern but they didn't even manage to beat Inter and that’s their problem. This is called underachievement and when a team does that, usually they need to overachieve somewhere else to make up for it, which they only have league left.
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October 27, 2022, 07:42:56 PM
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It's like we are seeing the same scenario for two seasons especially.
Some big teams are unexpectedly eliminated in the Champions League and they continue on their way in the Europa League. This time there are teams like Barcelona, Atletico Madrid, Juventus and Ajax for example. Atletico Madrid might not even qualify for the Europa League though depending on the results on the final week. There is Sevilla there also but I don't see it interesting because they are known by the Europa League more actually. Because they won the title there so many times.  Grin
it was a surprise that happened in the ucl this season. how impossible it is for Barcelona not to qualify for the next round and of course no one thought they had to play in the Europa League but in reality it all happened. well one fate maybe we will see group E where we will see an opportunity from Ac milan to qualify for the next round in the life and death match against Rb salzburg because if AC milan loses then the euro league will await them and vice versa. This season's champions league was full of surprises in the group phase where Barcelona, ​​Juventus, and Ajax had to go home first due to loss after loss. PSG, Bayern, Manchester City and Real Madrid are still the strongest candidates in the UCL and I think the knockout round will be quite an interesting spectacle.
I think what is actually so concerning about Barcelona now getting into the Europa League is that it has happened for the second time in a row. That is probably a historic event, I haven't fact checked that though. Thinking back to the times when Messi was still there, it was unimaginable that Barcelona would ever play Europa League let alone two years in a row. I am curious how they are going to be dealing with it as it also entails further problems financially. Signing new players is much harder, keeping good players is harder and sponsorships might also become less attractive over time. Now the last point I mentioned won't play a role yet as Barcelona has its reputation and it is still great, but if they keep failing to qualify for the final round in the Champions League that reputation will also start to fall apart at some point.
Currently, there are very talented players in Barcelona in terms of the quality of the player pool. Strategies and game order in the game did not fully understand, there is still a problem there. This year, the club you mentioned has worn itself out financially. The Champions League was very important. For now, they should focus on the league cup, they have a very strong rival there, it's difficult, in short, Barcelona's

Barcelona has a lot of talented players. Barcelona has plenty of talented players in attack and midfield. But the party is still not stable. The bonding between the players is still not good. I would say their match strategy is weak. Also their defense is weak. Against Bayern Munich, Inter Milan and Real Madrid, Barcelona's defense was very fragile. And Barcelona lost points in these matches due to poor defense. However, apart from these matches, the performance of Barcelona's defenders against other teams was excellent. However, Xavi should be given more time to stabilize and strengthen the team. He might be able to solve the team's problems.

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For Barcelona i am not surprised that they got kicked out from the Group as there was very good teams beside Viktoria Pilsen.
Yes, when the CL group stage draw was made, people immediately started hinting at Barcelona being eliminated, and that was what happened in the end, it was a group that had three good teams, one (Bayern Munich) was sure of qualification to the next round, and the other two (Inter Milan and Barcelona) now had to fight for the second all important spot, and unfortunately for Barcelona, Inter Milan won that battle. Having said that, i am pretty sure quite a lot of Barcelona players will be distraught at their current situation, many of them didn't sign for Barcelona to play in the Europa League, the Barca hierarchy themselves will be absolutely disappointed, but it is what it is, and they have to challenge for the titles they are in, and the Europa League is now one of them.

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