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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
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October 27, 2022, 08:23:17 PM
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It's like we are seeing the same scenario for two seasons especially.

Some big teams are unexpectedly eliminated in the Champions League and they continue on their way in the Europa League. This time there are teams like Barcelona, Atletico Madrid, Juventus and Ajax for example. Atletico Madrid might not even qualify for the Europa League though depending on the results on the final week. There is Sevilla there also but I don't see it interesting because they are known by the Europa League more actually. Because they won the title there so many times. 
Should we say football is revolving, the small teams are stepping up there games. Clubs like club Brugge and Napoli have been serious dark horses this season, should we say the idea of super league by top teams actually made the small teams up there game.

For Barcelona i am not surprised that they got kicked out from the Group as there was very good teams beside Viktoria Pilsen.
Should I say I was a bit surprised to see been relegated to the Europa league considering there squad and also signings they did this season. The battle was actually between inter and Barca on who to finish second because we all know Bayern had the top spot secured. I was actually expecting inter to get relegated to UEL because of there last 3 season performance in champions league.

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October 27, 2022, 08:36:03 PM
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It was a pleasure to see PSG at work this week. They now also have a good coach who can get along well with his players. You see a lot more fun with Messi, Neymar and Mbappe. To score 7 goals is quite decent, even if they didn't play against a very strong team. They are the big favorite for the title in my opinion, but there are more teams. Last year they also had great opportunities but they had a lot of bad luck against Real Madrid. I don't see them winning this year but you don't know, the ball is round. And how do we actually measure Bayern Munich this season? In the competition it is mediocre, but in the CL everything has been won against Inter and Barcelona so far. A nice outsider for the title would be Napoli.

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October 27, 2022, 08:36:50 PM
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For Barcelona i am not surprised that they got kicked out from the Group as there was very good teams beside Viktoria Pilsen.
Yes, when the CL group stage draw was made, people immediately started hinting at Barcelona being eliminated, and that was what happened in the end, it was a group that had three good teams, one (Bayern Munich) was sure of qualification to the next round, and the other two (Inter Milan and Barcelona) now had to fight for the second all important spot, and unfortunately for Barcelona, Inter Milan won that battle.
I can still remember a time where Barcelona would have been the most dangerous team in that group, leaving the others struggling for a slot. Now, what they get is a trip to the Europa League where they are still not going to win. Arsenal is still a dominant force there and they are more capable of winning than trophy with little struggle.

I was surprised at the Frankfurt 2:1 Marseille. I had hoped for more goals in the which rather came handy in the first half. Marseille though they lost, they proved that they were more than capable of winning the yesterday's fixture.

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October 27, 2022, 09:16:49 PM
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For Barcelona i am not surprised that they got kicked out from the Group as there was very good teams beside Viktoria Pilsen.
Yes, when the CL group stage draw was made, people immediately started hinting at Barcelona being eliminated, and that was what happened in the end, it was a group that had three good teams, one (Bayern Munich) was sure of qualification to the next round, and the other two (Inter Milan and Barcelona) now had to fight for the second all important spot, and unfortunately for Barcelona, Inter Milan won that battle.
I can still remember a time where Barcelona would have been the most dangerous team in that group, leaving the others struggling for a slot. Now, what they get is a trip to the Europa League where they are still not going to win. Arsenal is still a dominant force there and they are more capable of winning than trophy with little struggle.

I was surprised at the Frankfurt 2:1 Marseille. I had hoped for more goals in the which rather came handy in the first half. Marseille though they lost, they proved that they were more than capable of winning the yesterday's fixture.
Barcelona needs to quickly get the team in composure, because it seems the pattern of play during Messis presence has been modified to suit the new players present. It was quite disappointing to have been knocked out of the Champions league after showing so much promise. It is clear how the person of Jessi hugely imparted the performance of the  team. They would have to slug it out along side Arsenal. I hope they perform better, else this will become a rising struggle for a big team.
On the other hand, PSG  is one. team with hopes of clenching the title. That is, if they maintain their recent scoring. and playing form.

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October 27, 2022, 09:21:58 PM
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I was surprised at the Frankfurt 2:1 Marseille. I had hoped for more goals in the which rather came handy in the first half. Marseille though they lost, they proved that they were more than capable of winning the yesterday's fixture.

The match was very competitive. Both teams performed very well. We saw a lot of goals in the first half. The Frankfurt team went ahead 1-0 in just 3 minutes of the match. Matteo's goal in the 22nd minute tied the match at 1-1, but Frankfurt scored another goal just 5 minutes later to go ahead 2-1. But I expected to see a few more goals in the second half. But despite several good second-half attacks Marseille was unable to score again and lost the match. But Group D turns out to be very interesting. Four teams still have equal chances to qualify for the next round.

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October 27, 2022, 09:25:50 PM
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For Barcelona i am not surprised that they got kicked out from the Group as there was very good teams beside Viktoria Pilsen.
Yes, when the CL group stage draw was made, people immediately started hinting at Barcelona being eliminated, and that was what happened in the end, it was a group that had three good teams, one (Bayern Munich) was sure of qualification to the next round, and the other two (Inter Milan and Barcelona) now had to fight for the second all important spot, and unfortunately for Barcelona, Inter Milan won that battle. Having said that, i am pretty sure quite a lot of Barcelona players will be distraught at their current situation, many of them didn't sign for Barcelona to play in the Europa League, the Barca hierarchy themselves will be absolutely disappointed, but it is what it is, and they have to challenge for the titles they are in, and the Europa League is now one of them.
They can't compete with Bayern Munich and also Inter Milan so they should be eliminated more quickly in the Champions League this season. Disappointments will certainly exist, but if they drag on in disappointment it will be bad for the club. They should take this as a lesson and improve themselves more in the future. You could say they failed miserably in the Champions League this time because they only tasted victory against the weakest club in the Champions League, they could not beat the 2 strong clubs in this group.

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October 27, 2022, 09:36:44 PM
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I was surprised at the Frankfurt 2:1 Marseille. I had hoped for more goals in the which rather came handy in the first half. Marseille though they lost, they proved that they were more than capable of winning the yesterday's fixture.

The match was very competitive. Both teams performed very well. We saw a lot of goals in the first half. The Frankfurt team went ahead 1-0 in just 3 minutes of the match. Matteo's goal in the 22nd minute tied the match at 1-1, but Frankfurt scored another goal just 5 minutes later to go ahead 2-1. But I expected to see a few more goals in the second half. But despite several good second-half attacks Marseille was unable to score again and lost the match. But Group D turns out to be very interesting. Four teams still have equal chances to qualify for the next round.
In the early matches, it seemed that they did not want to linger and immediately kicked off at the beginning so this was indeed quite exciting to watch, especially with 27 minutes 3 goals could happen, it was really a very good game.
But indeed they have to do that because they still have a chance to be in the Champions League or at least in the Europa League because the difference in their points is currently very thin.

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October 27, 2022, 09:37:55 PM
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It was a pleasure to see PSG at work this week. They now also have a good coach who can get along well with his players. You see a lot more fun with Messi, Neymar and Mbappe. To score 7 goals is quite decent, even if they didn't play against a very strong team. They are the big favorite for the title in my opinion, but there are more teams. Last year they also had great opportunities but they had a lot of bad luck against Real Madrid. I don't see them winning this year but you don't know, the ball is round. And how do we actually measure Bayern Munich this season? In the competition it is mediocre, but in the CL everything has been won against Inter and Barcelona so far. A nice outsider for the title would be Napoli.
The Champions League title will be hard to obtain this season. Most favourite teams form is quite similar and a surprising defeat will occur at any moment.
I am curious about Group D and the ranking of some teams but also about the face to face between the 16 teams. I think City, Real Madrid, PSG and Bayern will keep moving unless facing each others. For Napoli I don't think they will go very far although they have a good performance this season.

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October 27, 2022, 09:53:40 PM
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And the full-time score is 0-3.

In the end they remained the clowns in the Champions League for 2 seasons in a row, this is clearly a blow, especially in this case the expectations of Barcelona fans are clearly high because in the transfer market they spend a lot of money.
This could be the next disaster for Barcelona. They like to bet by spending a lot of money in the transfer market and carry out various strategies that were not easy at that time to bring some great and expensive players to the club. With the hope that they can win or at least qualify for the last 16 stages and beyond. But unfortunately, they have to be in a tough group. And it seems that they are not capable enough to maximize their potential so they fail. I think Xavi and Barcelona are currently very confused because this failure will mainly affect their financial problems.

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October 27, 2022, 10:00:52 PM
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The competition in Group D is still very tight, Tottenham, Sporting, Frankfurt and Marseille still have a chance to qualify for the knockout phase because their points are still very changeable in their last match. Tottenham lead with 8 points, followed by Sproting in 2nd place with 7 points, in 3rd place is occupied by Frankfurt with the same points, and Marseille is last ranked with a difference of 2 points from the leader of the standings. The last match between Sporting vs Frankfurt and Marseille vs Tottenham will determine their position. The winning club will be in first and second position in the standings. It's very interesting to see the competition in this group.

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I think it will also be quite difficult for Barcelona to qualify. I don't know exactly what the criteria are, do they look at goal difference or mutual results? Mutual result is a lost cause anyway. Barcelona could certainly beat Bayern Munich at home, but Inter Milan will play the next round at home against Viktoria Pilzen, who have lost everything so far. Then Inter Milan should not win, and Barcelona should win at home against Bayern Munich. But let's be realistic, what are the chances that Inter Milan won't beat Pilzen at home? I think 5%

Barcelona will not experience any draw match or loss in their remaining matches, because their coach has brought in new strategies that will help them to achieve victory from Bayern Munich. I think, Barcelona will use home advantage to play Bayern Munich to ensure they achieve many goals that will increase their points for other teams to know that they are in good position to keep the winning going until they win the title. If Inter Milan coach can make some changes in their line up they used to played last match, Inter will defeat Pilzen 2-0.
Well, one thing must be taken into account, Barcelona is a very complete team, however Xabvi is still not completely satisfied, it is well known that they do not do tiki taka well, because the master of it is Pep Guardiola, Also, as I said before, you need to have a dinho, Messi and an Iniesta, maybe a Xavi who helps to give assists, it's the only way I can see a complete Barcelona, for now Xavi doesn't have any other place than appeal to what he knows and his little experience, I don't know how Barcelona will continue to act from now on, but from what I see things are not going the way they want, the bad thing about Barcelona is that it is in the League and the UCL the real Madrid.

It's obviously a bad performance by Barcelona in their  match against Bayern with that no shot on goal in front of their fans as well as a defeat both home and away tells how much Barcelona performance had declined in UCL, I remembered those days when Barcelona used to dominate UCL unfortunately reverse is the case now in terms of the team performances, I hope they won't continue to struggle in Laliga as well Europa league, as it stand now Group in D Tottenham chances of qualification for the knockout stages is guaranteed if they play atleast a draw against Merseille in their last match, a loss will be dangerous.
I think that the fact that Inter's win over Victoria Pilsen deprived Barcelona of even a theoretical chance of reaching the playoff stage had a role in such a Barcelona game. Barcelona president Joan Laporta said on this occasion that watching Inter win was like torture, because they hoped for a miracle, but it did not happen. On the other hand, I personally think that this should not serve as an excuse for losing and the lack of shots on goal, because even before that, it was clear to all sane people that Inter was obliged to win at home and solve the issue of the team's participation in the playoff stage. Barcelona had to show with this match that the team is on the way to restoring the old traditions, but to the great regret of the club's fans, this did not happen and, frankly, Bayern Munich won this match and it turned out even easier than in the first match in Munich.

Yes, you're absolutely right about that, but there's something we can't forget, I saw Inter's game, and it was totally crazy when Lukaku came on, the truth is he's a player who does everything very well on the pitch, Besides, he makes things look very easy, really when he entered he almost scored, and he made the second wall, wow the goal was phenomenal, it is that in reality the small area of the opposing team moved as if he were playing in the street, he I saw as if he were an adult playing against children, I don't know if it's because of his temperament, but I saw that they couldn't against him, the truth is that I really liked how they won and it was a resounding victory, no doubts were generated by no reason.

What Barcelona said were pure excuses, a team like that should never depend on the results of other teams, for me they lacked a lot of quality and there Muller made it clear to Lewa that it was a mistake that he had gone to Barcelona.

I don't think aubameyang leaving is a problem or a mistake and i don't think the problem is in Barcelona attack but their weakness is in the middlfiel and the defence, they need to find quickly some solution to save the season and at least play for la liga title
It's not a problem. Aubameyang rarely joined into the main squad, leaving from barcelona was not become a mistake. I think people understand this perfectly about how barcelona can start the season with a good start with lewandoski but i think that people became overrated with barcelona. Barcelona can be beaten easily by bayern munich but yeah the mental from barcelona's player already gone since intermilan was winning the game against plzen.
I just wanna say if the current squad of barcelona didn't meet expectation to compete in the champion league. that's better for barcelone to use another financial clever to buy new players from another club. This club has been blaming by so many people now.

Well I say something, Aubameyang for me if it was a mistake that Xavi let him go, I praise that he brought a very good one who was Lewa, but I'm sure that if they had left Aubameyang they would have passed without any problem to the round of 16, For me at first I saw how Barcelona took an impressive level in terms of signing many players, and not so expensive, that's something I admire a lot, but in the end not even qualifying for the Round of 16? leaving for a Europa League, which is not bad, but I'm sure it's not the place for them, I think the punishment for Barcelona is very strong, many fans must be disappointed.

Well, I think they have been very tough with Barcelona:

Barcelona 0-3 Bayern Munich: Barca slump to disastrous Champions League exit as Group C winners confirmed



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Barcelona endured a truly wretched night as confirmation of another Champions League group-stage exit was followed by their latest defeat to Bayern Munich.

Xavi’s side went into Wednesday night’s heavyweight Group C clash played amid a frustrated and subdued Camp Nou atmosphere knowing they could no longer hope to reach the last 16 after Inter Milan’s earlier 4-0 victory over Viktoria Plzen in Italy.

Source: https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/fc-barcelona-vs-bayern-munich-result-b1035518.html

Well for my part I am happy, I bet that Barcelona was going to lose, on the other hand I wonder, what will happen to Xavi now??

And the full-time score is 0-3.

In the end they remained the clowns in the Champions League for 2 seasons in a row, this is clearly a blow, especially in this case the expectations of Barcelona fans are clearly high because in the transfer market they spend a lot of money.
This could be the next disaster for Barcelona. They like to bet by spending a lot of money in the transfer market and carry out various strategies that were not easy at that time to bring some great and expensive players to the club. With the hope that they can win or at least qualify for the last 16 stages and beyond. But unfortunately, they have to be in a tough group. And it seems that they are not capable enough to maximize their potential so they fail. I think Xavi and Barcelona are currently very confused because this failure will mainly affect their financial problems.

Well, the truth is that this is something that I always said, if Barcelona failed in the UCL, things were going to go downhill, this is something that little by little is happening to them, it's a shame, the truth is that I wanted them to at least reach round of 16, Xavi perhaps has all the best intentions to do what is best for the club, but sometimes things don't work out, they are not yet at the level to be in the UCL, I feel sorry for Lewa because he is a player that if it's worth it, but that happens when they go to a club that doesn't support them, it's almost the same thing that happened to CR7, if CR7 had stayed at Juve everyone would be fine.


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October 27, 2022, 10:30:34 PM
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The competition in Group D is still very tight, Tottenham, Sporting, Frankfurt and Marseille still have a chance to qualify for the knockout phase because their points are still very changeable in their last match. Tottenham lead with 8 points, followed by Sproting in 2nd place with 7 points, in 3rd place is occupied by Frankfurt with the same points, and Marseille is last ranked with a difference of 2 points from the leader of the standings. The last match between Sporting vs Frankfurt and Marseille vs Tottenham will determine their position. The winning club will be in first and second position in the standings. It's very interesting to see the competition in this group.
The last match will be decisive in this case because indeed everyone still has a chance even though they have to work hard in the last match later.
But my prediction won't change because I still feel that Tottenham and Sporting deserve 1 and 2 places but for third place of course I expect Frankfurt to come back because they won the Europa League last season and they have to go back there.

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The competition in Group D is still very tight, Tottenham, Sporting, Frankfurt and Marseille still have a chance to qualify for the knockout phase because their points are still very changeable in their last match. Tottenham lead with 8 points, followed by Sproting in 2nd place with 7 points, in 3rd place is occupied by Frankfurt with the same points, and Marseille is last ranked with a difference of 2 points from the leader of the standings. The last match between Sporting vs Frankfurt and Marseille vs Tottenham will determine their position. The winning club will be in first and second position in the standings. It's very interesting to see the competition in this group.
It seems like that the only group D who has not yet been determining the two clubs who will able to pass to the next round. It seems like that totenham was feeling so difficult facing those clubs. It can be seen from how bad the performance from totenham in champion league.
That is also giving a huge impact to the overall performance by totenham in EPL as well. Totenham must winning the last game or it might be doing down at the second place. If totenham lose and this has no chance to go to the last 16.
Totenham must win or it will be going to be the same as la liga club like barcelona. No choice for totenham

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October 27, 2022, 10:58:48 PM
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Yes, when the CL group stage draw was made, people immediately started hinting at Barcelona being eliminated, and that was what happened in the end, it was a group that had three good teams, one (Bayern Munich) was sure of qualification to the next round, and the other two (Inter Milan and Barcelona) now had to fight for the second all important spot, and unfortunately for Barcelona, Inter Milan won that battle. Having said that, i am pretty sure quite a lot of Barcelona players will be distraught at their current situation, many of them didn't sign for Barcelona to play in the Europa League, the Barca hierarchy themselves will be absolutely disappointed, but it is what it is, and they have to challenge for the titles they are in, and the Europa League is now one of them.
I agree that this group was difficult , but before all the games started it was not really clear that Bayern Munich will be making it that easy as they did.
I also havnt expected that Inter Milan will this good this season , and about Barcelona you see now that its not only Lewandoski that bring the win its the whole team,
and that what broke Barcelona the neck maybe. The Europa League can be good for them if they believe in the team and working together.

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October 27, 2022, 11:51:07 PM
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Galtier was chosen by PSG because of his CV to deal with player ego in Lille. So far he has shown that he is able to repeat it in PSG too. I felt about Galtier is similar to Carlo Ancelotti. They are both coaches who don't make too strict rules as well as punishments on their star players but they can manage their players so well.

They are like friendly coaches with their players but are still able to constrain their player ego. In addition, they are wisely enough to enlighten their star players and can use them in new positions and lift their players to new highs in their career.
Yep. It should be one of the reasons why PSG management hired Galtier to be PSG coach.
PSG knows that Galtier was successful to deal with Lille players' egos. It is also something needed in PSG. PSG has many top players, they need a charismatic coach to deal with the situation. If the coach has no strong characteristics and charismatic nature, PSG players like Mbappe and Neymar won't follow the coach's instructions. Well, Galtier may be a bit similar to Ancelotti. But they have a different style of managing a club.

Of course, Galtier must be friendly. The players with big egos won't accept him if he isn't a friendly man.


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I agree that this group was difficult , but before all the games started it was not really clear that Bayern Munich will be making it that easy as they did. I also havnt expected that Inter Milan will this good this season , and about Barcelona you see now that its not only Lewandoski that bring the win its the whole team, and that what broke Barcelona the neck maybe. The Europa League can be good for them if they believe in the team and working together.
In any case, a club with such a history and with such a squad should strive to win titles and if it didn't work out with the Champions League this season, Barcelona should try to realize itself in the remaining tournaments with a vengeance and energy. Moreover, Barcelona hardly claimed to win the Champions League with such a squad, but the club is now obliged to have the Europa League win as a goal. And the team should make every effort to do this.
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It seems like that the only group D who has not yet been determining the two clubs who will able to pass to the next round. It seems like that totenham was feeling so difficult facing those clubs. It can be seen from how bad the performance from totenham in champion league.
That is also giving a huge impact to the overall performance by totenham in EPL as well. Totenham must winning the last game or it might be doing down at the second place. If totenham lose and this has no chance to go to the last 16.
Totenham must win or it will be going to be the same as la liga club like barcelona. No choice for totenham
They are just as strong, D group filling by clubs who not determined by domination and power like other groups, so the club who able to the next round will determine in the last match. Everything will happen, Spur can be eliminated while Eintracht can be a champion group, so on, but still who able to maintain the performance is the winner, which I can't see also Spur and Marseile, if lost then they have to say good bye.

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October 28, 2022, 01:01:40 AM
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The last match will be decisive in this case because indeed everyone still has a chance even though they have to work hard in the last match later.
But my prediction won't change because I still feel that Tottenham and Sporting deserve 1 and 2 places but for third place of course I expect Frankfurt to come back because they won the Europa League last season and they have to go back there.
What you say is more logical, but I doubt Tottenham's performance for the last game in the Champions League group because they lost their last two matches in the Premier League. And Tottenham's last opponent in the Champions League group was Marseille which was also not so bad in Ligue 1, so the match between Marseille vs Tottenham will be very exciting considering that Marseille will also try their best to win in their last match in the Champions League group.

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October 28, 2022, 04:50:30 AM
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The competition in Group D is still very tight, Tottenham, Sporting, Frankfurt and Marseille still have a chance to qualify for the knockout phase because their points are still very changeable in their last match. Tottenham lead with 8 points, followed by Sproting in 2nd place with 7 points, in 3rd place is occupied by Frankfurt with the same points, and Marseille is last ranked with a difference of 2 points from the leader of the standings. The last match between Sporting vs Frankfurt and Marseille vs Tottenham will determine their position. The winning club will be in first and second position in the standings. It's very interesting to see the competition in this group.
The last match will be decisive in this case because indeed everyone still has a chance even though they have to work hard in the last match later.
But my prediction won't change because I still feel that Tottenham and Sporting deserve 1 and 2 places but for third place of course I expect Frankfurt to come back because they won the Europa League last season and they have to go back there.
It would all be so much simpler if Harry Kane's stoppage time winner against Sporting had counted. They had games where they would’ve won but ended up getting draws from those games. Now as it is, Tottenham will travel to Marseille but in a situation where all four teams can still qualify. They just have to beat Marseille and maintain the top of the group to avoid been drawn against they the big guns. But I know Marseille will also want to qualify and it will be a difficult game for Tottenham.
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Galtier was chosen by PSG because of his CV to deal with player ego in Lille. So far he has shown that he is able to repeat it in PSG too. I felt about Galtier is similar to Carlo Ancelotti. They are both coaches who don't make too strict rules as well as punishments on their star players but they can manage their players so well.

They are like friendly coaches with their players but are still able to constrain their player ego. In addition, they are wisely enough to enlighten their star players and can use them in new positions and lift their players to new highs in their career.
Yep. It should be one of the reasons why PSG management hired Galtier to be PSG coach.
PSG knows that Galtier was successful to deal with Lille players' egos. It is also something needed in PSG. PSG has many top players, they need a charismatic coach to deal with the situation. If the coach has no strong characteristics and charismatic nature, PSG players like Mbappe and Neymar won't follow the coach's instructions. Well, Galtier may be a bit similar to Ancelotti. But they have a different style of managing a club.

Of course, Galtier must be friendly. The players with big egos won't accept him if he isn't a friendly man.
The PSG club has the most expensive and successful players at the current club level.But I think they don't have good chemistry.As a result, they are not able to do well in the UEFA Champions League even with so many famous stars.I think some of the responsibility for this failure lies with the PSG coach.Because he may not have created a good understanding among all the players.But the decision that PSG management has taken now is a very good one.The coach they want to hire for their team is a very successful coach.Hopefully, if he joins the PNG team, there will be a good chemistry between all the players in the PSG team.
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