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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
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February 28, 2023, 05:39:51 PM
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In the premier league Chelsea still doesn't look strong enough and is still weak when compared to other teams that are near their current position in the standings. And in the Champions League I'm also not so sure that Chelsea can win easily at home when they face Dortmund in the second leg later.

Because Dortmund have also started to find their performance again this season so they will continue to compete in two different league competitions this season, even though Dortmund also does not have great potential to last longer in the Champions League this season.

The same thing happened at UCL. Chelsea's performance has been declining a lot since potter was changing some good players for useless players. It can be said that if chelsea has been fooled by so many clubs to buy useless player. I remember when lampard was still in chelsea. He has been suggested to buy some good players but that's very sad to say that if he has been sacked by abramovich caused by the bad performance of the club.

Being a manager is far difficult than a player caused by the pressure was very big but potter must be included in the exception. Chelsea is now a mediocre team that will get nothing this season.
Don't expect too much from chelsea
Whether the players bought by Chelsea are useful or not, what is clear is that under the leadership of Graham Potter, Chelsea spent a very large amount of funds spent by Chelsea to bring in top players, including in the January 2023 transfer market.
but in fact victory is still a hard thing to get, and this season chelsea is like a mediocre team like you said, and when chelsea played for me it wasn't an interesting match to watch because chelsea was not like last season, and also currently chelsea perform badly and always produce bad results in all competitions.

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February 28, 2023, 05:48:21 PM
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What factors made Kevin De Bruyne unable to play, did Kevin De Bruyne get injured or was there something else. Because I don't know about Kevin De Bruyne's condition, because I also don't get the injury record that Kevin De Bruyne is currently experiencing.

But yes, apart from that it would be a shame if Manchester City couldn't play Kevin De Bruyne because basically, Kevin De Bruyne is like a key player who can control Manchester City's gameplay well. So if Kevin De Bruyne cannot be played, then of course it will be difficult for Manchester City to be able to win in an important match like in this Champions League.
There is no clear reason indeed even now I don't know why he can't be featured even in the EPL
the possibility is injury. the hope is that he will be in the squad because indeed without De Bruyne's presence Manchester City have lost a good supply of bait in midfield even though they are still very good but with De Bruyne's presence they are clearly much better.

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February 28, 2023, 05:53:19 PM
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In the premier league Chelsea still doesn't look strong enough and is still weak when compared to other teams that are near their current position in the standings. And in the Champions League I'm also not so sure that Chelsea can win easily at home when they face Dortmund in the second leg later.

Because Dortmund have also started to find their performance again this season so they will continue to compete in two different league competitions this season, even though Dortmund also does not have great potential to last longer in the Champions League this season.

The same thing happened at UCL. Chelsea's performance has been declining a lot since potter was changing some good players for useless players. It can be said that if chelsea has been fooled by so many clubs to buy useless player. I remember when lampard was still in chelsea. He has been suggested to buy some good players but that's very sad to say that if he has been sacked by abramovich caused by the bad performance of the club.

Being a manager is far difficult than a player caused by the pressure was very big but potter must be included in the exception. Chelsea is now a mediocre team that will get nothing this season.
Don't expect too much from chelsea
Whether the players bought by Chelsea are useful or not, what is clear is that under the leadership of Graham Potter, Chelsea spent a very large amount of funds spent by Chelsea to bring in top players, including in the January 2023 transfer market.
but in fact victory is still a hard thing to get, and this season chelsea is like a mediocre team like you said, and when chelsea played for me it wasn't an interesting match to watch because chelsea was not like last season, and also currently chelsea perform badly and always produce bad results in all competitions.

I don't understand how they can still get such unsuccessful results despite spending so much money.  Considering that the players were made in line with the request of the coach, better players could be bought with this money.  Sooner or later, the unsuccessful results will be billed to Potter.

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February 28, 2023, 06:08:55 PM
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I agree that Manchester City struggles in Champions League matches. However, Pep Guardiola has learned from the past and will field a strong team in the second leg against RB Leipzig. The Etihad Stadium will be electric, and the fans will support their team at every turn. History shows that underdogs can win. Manchester City must score early to control the game. Hope for the best!
Yeah Kevin De Bruyne was absent and Phil Foden didn't play, but Gundongan and Grealish aren't a bad players too. Manchester City will win, it's really shame if they get beaten by Leipzig in Manchester City's home. The second leg, Kevin De Bruyne seems high likely will play and I really confident enough Manchester City will play just like they beat the top 1 club position in Premier League e.g. Arsenal.
No doubt things are not easy for few English teams in round of 16 with Manchester City was the strongest team, but their first leg performance were not ideal, so they have to give their 100% otherwise they can face exit from here which could be disaster for the Manchester City and their fans because mostly were feeling after arrival of Haaland they could be ok for having their spot into last two teams but right now after surprising draw at RB Leipzig home now they have to be improved side if they want some better result Pep Guardiola is having good experience but still he needs to have better strategy for their chances because we all know UEFA Champions League has never been easy for the top teams with anytime we can have surprising result.

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February 28, 2023, 06:18:19 PM
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No doubt things are not easy for few English teams in round of 16 with Manchester City was the strongest team, but their first leg performance were not ideal, so they have to give their 100% otherwise they can face exit from here which could be disaster for the Manchester City and their fans because mostly were feeling after arrival of Haaland they could be ok for having their spot into last two teams but right now after surprising draw at RB Leipzig home now they have to be improved side if they want some better result Pep Guardiola is having good experience but still he needs to have better strategy for their chances because we all know UEFA Champions League has never been easy for the top teams with anytime we can have surprising result.
I know Pep Guardiola's experience in managing his team in the Champions League, especially now that Manchester City is a strong team with many players to rely on, maybe in the first leg it didn't go as expected with a draw but at home they have to prove they can win easier than ever to continue his career in the Champions League to win the first trophy for Manchester City.

Here I can conclude that Pep Guardiola's team can qualify for the next phase, even though what I said is too early to talk about this, but I am sure that with strategy and play Manchester City can take their best opportunities at home.
Not only have they been impressive season after year but I think it will be impressive next season as well.

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February 28, 2023, 06:20:42 PM
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What factors made Kevin De Bruyne unable to play, did Kevin De Bruyne get injured or was there something else. Because I don't know about Kevin De Bruyne's condition, because I also don't get the injury record that Kevin De Bruyne is currently experiencing.

But yes, apart from that it would be a shame if Manchester City couldn't play Kevin De Bruyne because basically, Kevin De Bruyne is like a key player who can control Manchester City's gameplay well. So if Kevin De Bruyne cannot be played, then of course it will be difficult for Manchester City to be able to win in an important match like in this Champions League.
There is no clear reason indeed even now I don't know why he can't be featured even in the EPL
the possibility is injury. the hope is that he will be in the squad because indeed without De Bruyne's presence Manchester City have lost a good supply of bait in midfield even though they are still very good but with De Bruyne's presence they are clearly much better.

It doesn't seem like an injury, because after I had a bit to find out it looks like or maybe Kevin De Bruyne is sick but not injured. Because when Manchester City played in the Champions League against Leipzig, in fact Kevin De Bruyne was not included in the squad.

But after that, when Manchester City played in the Premier League against Bournemouth, the reality was that Kevin De Bruyne was on the bench. So yes, Kevin De Bruyne is not injured but only has an illness and hopefully Kevin De Bruyne will get well soon so he can play in the second leg against Leipzig because Kevin De Bruyne's presence in Manchester City's main squad is still very much needed.

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February 28, 2023, 06:36:06 PM
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Yes,  Even though you are the favorite, of course you shouldn't underestimate your opponent. I'm sure there aren't many changes to the Napoli and Benfica squads. Maybe the coach will rotate several players who previously did not have much time to rest.

Must keep in mind! The Champions League is Europe's elite competition, of course every team will always appear all-out until the end of time. Many surprises have happened even beyond our predictions. So for every team that has excelled in leg 1, they still have to focus.

It is way to risky to not to play your best players at this stage of the competition just because you’re having a two goal lead in the first leg. This is regarded as the most competitive club football competition in the world because of the surprises it brings. Not once or twice have we seen teams overturning 2, 3 and 4 goals. There isn’t much of any small team at every knockout stages of the competition so every team might have to approach the game with the best possible strategy.

There is no clear reason indeed even now I don't know why he can't be featured even in the EPL
the possibility is injury. the hope is that he will be in the squad because indeed without De Bruyne's presence Manchester City have lost a good supply of bait in midfield even though they are still very good but with De Bruyne's presence they are clearly much better.

De Bruyne is having fitness issues and that is why he hasn’t featured. His absence should be worrisome for Manchester City even if they have other creative players available. History has shown that Man city has lost or been eliminated out of the champions league every De Bruyne isn’t on the pitch. Man city lost the final to Chelsea immediately he was taken out injured and lose squandered a two goal lead in the dying minutes against Real Madrid when he was withdrawn last season.

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February 28, 2023, 06:41:49 PM
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Chelsea team knows how difficult it would be facing Dortmund in the Champions league. If the less known clubs in England right now can win them during the matches, I don't think Dortmund would encounter much obstacle in snatching the win.
As Thiago Silva is out of play with a torn ligament issue, team doctors are confirming he could be out for up to 6weeks. I wonder what other mishap is yet uncovered in the Chelsea camp.
Chelsea's season is already over with their worst performance and with the next match at home against Borussia Dortmund is also not going to be easy because they are performing at their best and now having 11 wins streak in all competitions which is surely amazing stuff.

And on other side Chelsea is having just one win from their last 11 matches which is clearly giving all details about them and how things could be in coming match as well because they are losing matches against weaker sides as well and have no depth in their squad which is also new and needs more time for having better performance and Graham Potter is also under questionable tag because after his arrival Chelsea never have any positive result which is also the biggest concern right now for the management.

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February 28, 2023, 06:48:10 PM
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I don't understand how they can still get such unsuccessful results despite spending so much money.  Considering that the players were made in line with the request of the coach, better players could be bought with this money.  Sooner or later, the unsuccessful results will be billed to Potter.
In an article I read today Potter is complaining that now Chelsea has too many players and that is ruining his training sessions, yeah I know how that sounds but I am not joking, Chelsea went out there and spend hundreds of millions of dollars for the players he asked and now he is unhappy about having too much players to work with, so even if he seems to still have the trust from the team owners, if Chelsea keeps getting bad results he is going to get fired, and deservedly so if you ask me.
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It seems that only these two matches are the easiest to predict for the outcome of the match in the second leg. namely the Napoli vs Frankfurt match and the Club Brugge vs Benfica match. Napoli and Benfica both look like they will be able to win the match with very big chances. because even in the first leg Napoli and Benfica were both able to beat their opponents quite easily. while for other team matches I think there are still many possibilities to be considered.
Here you are missing one more team as I have feeling just three teams out of eight are having fair chance for qualifying for the next round as four matches are having just one goal difference and one match was draw with Napoli, Benfica and Real Madrid all are in better position for having their next round tickets and others have to give their best.

But, here still we need full squads and perfect performance because things are never been easy for them in Champions League we can expect any shocking performance which can bring out of competition to any strong team as it's spirit of the game they never allow opponents to have any chance for the mess-up Napoli, Benfica and Real Madrid all are having good spots in their relative leagues as well with Napoli and Benfica are at the top and Real Madrid at second spot.

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February 28, 2023, 07:30:50 PM
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They did that last year as well, and they are still doing it this year. This one was a bit too much of course lol, when you are losing 2-0, you score 3 goals and win the game and that's what we call a comeback, scoring 5 in a row as a response seemed like a bit of an overkill lol. But that allowed them psychologically finish this matchup, what will Liverpool do, win by 4 goals?

Of course not, we are not going to see that happening, so this matchup is basically over already and Real could start focusing on the league and the next stage a bit earlier than other teams. I am sensing that it's going to be a tough UCL season for all teams, so it's better to rest.
Liverpool could have won the match in Santiago Bernabéu, but I don't think they will qualify for the quarter-finals. We're not that stupid to let go when the fish is clear, I mean we really have to keep our chances of making the quarter-finals comfortably.

Even so, Liverpool are team that have struggled to beat Real Madrid so far, so I don't think they can beat Real Madrid as easily as beating Rangers 1-7  in the group stages this season. So in my opinion, Liverpool have chance to win but don't have good chance to make it to the quarter-finals.

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The same thing happened at UCL. Chelsea's performance has been declining a lot since potter was changing some good players for useless players. It can be said that if chelsea has been fooled by so many clubs to buy useless player. I remember when lampard was still in chelsea. He has been suggested to buy some good players but that's very sad to say that if he has been sacked by abramovich caused by the bad performance of the club.

Is it because Abuameyang didn't make it to the list of the squad that is playing for Chelsea in the Champions League? I questioned that when I saw that news but only the team I believe is in that position to answer that, the three new players they bought made it to that list and I doubt if any credible manager will be so in a hurry to remove their main striker from the squad that meant so much to the team and yet they still fail woefully, there is something that is happening to Chelsea that outsiders don't know until someone speaks up.


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Being a manager is far difficult than a player caused by the pressure was very big but potter must be included in the exception. Chelsea is now a mediocre team that will get nothing this season.
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The only hope they have this season is this Champions League which they are on the verge of losing to Dortmund, I hope they score goals they can in the second leg otherwise, they will only be playing for been featured in matches without expecting any trophy, I doubt if there would be any motivation for players to play for the team when there is nothing to fight for.

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Manchester City looks like the only English team that has better opportunity to qualify for the quarter finals of the Champions League. They will be playing at home in Etihad having the total support of the fans. But RB Leipzig is an underdog that cannot be overlooked because they can maximize slight chances and are willing to defend a goal till end of the match. If Manchester City allow them to get a goal first, the match might become very difficult to win.

Chelsea has no hope of winning against an in form Burussia Dortmund based the club's present performance. The disgraceful lose against Tottenham is a clear indication that they are not fit to move to the next phase of this competition. Todd Boehly have been very patient with Graham Potter and this grace period might run out if they are defeated in Stanford Bridge.
Tottenham's casenis slightly better than Chelsea because they have shown some level of improvement during the match against Chelsea. If the keep improving it is very possible to win Milan.
In football anything can happen in any game, it may shock you that Chelsea may get their first win in four or five games when they face RB Leipzig in the return leg. I don't have faith in Liverpool at this time to be able to eliminate Real Madrid but Chelsea and Manchester City still have a chance to redeem themselves.

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Chelsea has no hope of winning against an in form Burussia Dortmund based the club's present performance. The disgraceful lose against Tottenham is a clear indication that they are not fit to move to the next phase of this competition. Todd Boehly have been very patient with Graham Potter and this grace period might run out if they are defeated in Stanford Bridge.
Tottenham's casenis slightly better than Chelsea because they have shown some level of improvement during the match against Chelsea. If the keep improving it is very possible to win Milan.
Let's see what happens. I'm not sure if Dortmund will win at Stamford Bridge in the second leg yet. Chelsea performed well in the UCL and very differently in the League. Granted Potter hasn't found Chelsea's best form of play at the moment, but I think they'll try to win and qualify for the next round. Actually I'm pretty sure if Chelsea have a bigger chance of qualifying Dortmund. They will play at home the opportunity makes more than one goal very open.
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February 28, 2023, 09:47:22 PM
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Manchester City looks like the only English team that has better opportunity to qualify for the quarter finals of the Champions League. They will be playing at home in Etihad having the total support of the fans. But RB Leipzig is an underdog that cannot be overlooked because they can maximize slight chances and are willing to defend a goal till end of the match. If Manchester City allow them to get a goal first, the match might become very difficult to win.

Chelsea has no hope of winning against an in form Burussia Dortmund based the club's present performance. The disgraceful lose against Tottenham is a clear indication that they are not fit to move to the next phase of this competition. Todd Boehly have been very patient with Graham Potter and this grace period might run out if they are defeated in Stanford Bridge.
Tottenham's casenis slightly better than Chelsea because they have shown some level of improvement during the match against Chelsea. If the keep improving it is very possible to win Milan.
In football anything can happen in any game, it may shock you that Chelsea may get their first win in four or five games when they face RB Leipzig in the return leg. I don't have faith in Liverpool at this time to be able to eliminate Real Madrid but Chelsea and Manchester City still have a chance to redeem themselves.

That's true, we cannot predict anything especially when we are talking about football everything is unpredictable but we can try checking reality so we can see many reasons for saying a team is not going to beat another team normally. For example, a team like Liverpool is not in a good situation beat a strong team especially Real Madrid where they got forwards Like Benzema and will use any chance they get.

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February 28, 2023, 11:33:47 PM
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RB Leipzig is not a small team; they are one of the most competitive teams you can face right now. Manchester City's game against them in the first leg shows how strong they are and should not be underestimated by any team. If RB Leipzig defeats Manchester City in the second leg, it would be a shocking end to one the season best Premier League champions contender. This is not a league match, so if they want to win the second leg, they must be extra prepared and not relent on a goal, as RB Leipzig will surprise them and win.
No matter what Leipzig played in they previous leg against Manchester City, it still ball down to one thing which that Leipzig shouldn't be a big obstacle to man city at this point in the premiere league this is because Manchester city is the defending champion so at that they are better experienced and confident compared to smaller club like Leipzig.
But in football sometimes experience doesnt matter what matters is how prepared the team is and how their utilize the chances that come their way.
Manchester City seems to be focusing on the second leg as a reference and considers a draw in the first leg to be very good for them.
With the conditions that are seen now, I agree that whatever Leipzig does, it looks like Manchester City will not be playing anymore now, even though in this match they cannot be underestimated for Manchester City.

Manchester City are in great form in the last games and Leipzig's chances for a rematch after their first draw are very slim.  If they knock out Manchester City in England, it will be the biggest surprise of the champions league.  The competition level of the German league is not at the Premier league level.  One of the things that keeps Manchester City in shape is the matches they play with strong teams in the tough Premier league.

Sure it would be a huge surprise if Leipzig made that happen, but the discussion about this game doesn't sufficiently acknowledge that Leipzig isn't that easy to beat. On a good day they can cause some severe problems for any team. In the group stage they kept a perfect defense against Real Madrid until the 80th minute and you could say that the win for Real Madrid was ok in the end, but that is not the point. Until the 80 minute the stats were quite even. Leipzig had almost the same number of attempts, more corners and all other statistics were solid for a team playing in the Bernabeu.

They need to make sure that Pep's guys don't get a quick overwhelming advantage. Play it safe and then use their head , they don't have to score. Manchester City is the team that has to score here.

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February 28, 2023, 11:42:45 PM
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In football anything can happen in any game, it may shock you that Chelsea may get their first win in four or five games when they face RB Leipzig in the return leg. I don't have faith in Liverpool at this time to be able to eliminate Real Madrid but Chelsea and Manchester City still have a chance to redeem themselves.

I think that so many times people said that anything could happpen sometimes for chelsea but chelsea keeps consistently getting zero point in EPL. This gonna greatly affect the match at the stamford bridge. If you are aware if chelsea's attacking pattern is the worst. The ball was rarely going to the its attacker. Chelsea just like only playing the ball to get ball possessions which is the worst in my opinion even compared with the mediocre club.

Chelsea was just lucky enough to be qualfiied for the last 16. Chelsea will not make it to enter into the last 8 caused by its performance is far under dortmund. Dortmund is now as good as bayern. Even though the bookies were favoring chelsea.

I see no chance for chelsea to win against dortmund.



The odds is very good for bayern.

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March 01, 2023, 12:05:36 AM
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They need to make sure that Pep's guys don't get a quick overwhelming advantage. Play it safe and then use their head , they don't have to score. Manchester City is the team that has to score here.

manchester city became a very inconsistent team, honestly it is very difficult to understand what goes on in guardiola's head, when he has a good result in a certain game, in the next game he changes the 11 that had a good result in the last game, he had a good squad of players that made city strong as a rock, but they sold them and brought in others, so the team is not the same as when they had gabriel jesus and others, honestly I don't see city playing well, it's true that there are times when they score a lot of goals, but their style of play is not a good style like in the past, when Kevin De Bruyne is on the field playing, the team has been performing well, but it is strange that Kevin De Bruyne It is no longer the best option for Guardiola, in short, anything can happen in the game against RBLeipzig, this city does not inspire confidence in me

For example, a team like Liverpool is not in a good situation beat a strong team especially Real Madrid where they got forwards Like Benzema and will use any chance they get.

Liverpool's problem is in the defense, midfield and attack, the liverpool coach should have corrected this, even when liverpool had a healthy mane, in the last few games liverpool started to become unstable, it was necessary to restructure the team, in this process the liverpool coach had to hire good players for defense, midfield and attack, but in attack liverpool already had diogo game, salah and luis diaz who when the three played managed to get good results, but unfortunately the luis dias and diogo plays had a prolonged injury, which destroyed the team and the worst thing was that liverpool went to hire darwin nunez who arrived at liverpool and it was a disaster, liverpool signings were not good in my opinion

The only hope they have this season is this Champions League which they are on the verge of losing to Dortmund, I hope they score goals they can in the second leg otherwise, they will only be playing for been featured in matches without expecting any trophy, I doubt if there would be any motivation for players to play for the team when there is nothing to fight for.

to be honest i can't understand chelsea, they're just signing a lot of players but they continue to play very badly, in my opinion nothing has changed on the pitch, and that's because the coach isn't changing the team every game to see which one is the best. best 11 that will give good results, if he did like the manager of manchester united he would have good results, he had to take out Kai Havertz and the entire cast that was already in the team and put only all the new players and then observe the results, while do this constantly without a doubt that I could find the ideal 11 and the alternative 11

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March 01, 2023, 12:23:54 AM
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I think that so many times people said that anything could happpen sometimes for chelsea but chelsea keeps consistently getting zero point in EPL. This gonna greatly affect the match at the stamford bridge. If you are aware if chelsea's attacking pattern is the worst. The ball was rarely going to the its attacker. Chelsea just like only playing the ball to get ball possessions which is the worst in my opinion even compared with the mediocre club.

What people say is not wrong, mate. Chelsea has become an unpredictable club recently. Although they are very bad in the EPL, it doesn't mean that they will also play badly in the UCL. In the first leg at Signal Iduna Park, 1 - 0 is a pretty good result IMO for Chelsea, because they only need 1 - 0 to go to ET at Stamford Bridge.

From the picture of the betting market that you attached, I'm sure that Chelsea will win with a difference of 1 goal, although it's not certain that the match will continue to ET or not.

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March 01, 2023, 01:37:43 AM
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What people say is not wrong, mate. Chelsea has become an unpredictable club recently. Although they are very bad in the EPL, it doesn't mean that they will also play badly in the UCL. In the first leg at Signal Iduna Park, 1 - 0 is a pretty good result IMO for Chelsea, because they only need 1 - 0 to go to ET at Stamford Bridge.

From the picture of the betting market that you attached, I'm sure that Chelsea will win with a difference of 1 goal, although it's not certain that the match will continue to ET or not.
Chelsea are a great club in Europe since the days they have Abramovic then Mourinho but they did not win Champions League when they had excellent form. They won two Champions League in their club history in seasons when they did not play well in Premier League. Because of their bad performances in Premier League, they sacked their coaches and alternative coaches like Di Matteo, Tuchel brought them to two Champions League.

Di Matteo is even a less famous coach than Potter but yeah I don't know will Potter is capable of making the same thing like Di Matteo after all bad performances of Chelsea so far. Chance to see Chelsea fire Potter before a second leg match with Dortmund is slim but if they fail, they will be out of Champions League. It's a knock out match.

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