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July 31, 2023, 07:52:50 AM
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I don't think securing Visas to go and watch the FIFA World Cup that'll be hosted by Canada/Mexico/United States in 2024 by fans would be an issue for fans across the globe.
During the FIFA World Cup tournaments, there's provision of a special Visa for fans to the host country or countries and such Visa expires immediately at the World Cup is over. So any fan who has that kind of Visa to the host country is considered an illegal migrant at the expiration of the tournament.
Its seems good ideas for hosting of FIFA World Cup, United State and Canada are most difficult countries for visitor and what happen later when becoming host of World Cup will us get easy visa coming there. For Mexico I don't think has problem because around countries people come from easily visiting there but will United State and Canada have difficult rule coming there? I think good ideas have adopted by FIFA and give rule for all countries when becoming host of World Cup give free visa for visitor exactly when World Cup playing. Some fans not rich person and they have much money for paying visa and how expensive living cost in Mexico and Unite State, FIFA should take this points actually about living cost in countries will be host of FIFA World Cup on next edition.
Surely FIFA will come to a good decision in this regard by thinking about the audience. It is FIFA's responsibility to ensure that football fans can easily enjoy the game on the field. While getting a visa for Mexico is relatively easy, visas for the US and Canada are not so easy. It is very difficult for people from countries outside of Europe or America to get visas for Canada and America. Those who go to enjoy the football world cup directly on the field usually enter the countries where the football world cup is held with a tourist visa, but it is very difficult to get a tourist visa for America and Canada. Hopefully FIFA will definitely come to a discussion with these three countries and come to a decision on how to simplify the visa process.

I don't think it is difficult to get tourist visa for US as for Canada I don't know.In here many of my friends have already gotten a tourist visa for 2 years,not for the World Cup but to enjoy traveling and seeing US,once they have done so they can apply again and it will be far more easy the next time.For the moment right now they don't ask stupid things,except the normal bureaucratic procedures which come down,who you are,your legal and marital status and what is the level of your income (to find out if you can afford to go there for tourism and not for illegal migration purposes).

So even when the time comes for 2026 World Cup they will make it easier than it is although for me it is easy enough right now for anyone to get a tourist visa from US until now.

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July 31, 2023, 12:03:09 PM
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I don't think securing Visas to go and watch the FIFA World Cup that'll be hosted by Canada/Mexico/United States in 2024 by fans would be an issue for fans across the globe.
During the FIFA World Cup tournaments, there's provision of a special Visa for fans to the host country or countries and such Visa expires immediately at the World Cup is over. So any fan who has that kind of Visa to the host country is considered an illegal migrant at the expiration of the tournament.
Its seems good ideas for hosting of FIFA World Cup, United State and Canada are most difficult countries for visitor and what happen later when becoming host of World Cup will us get easy visa coming there. For Mexico I don't think has problem because around countries people come from easily visiting there but will United State and Canada have difficult rule coming there? I think good ideas have adopted by FIFA and give rule for all countries when becoming host of World Cup give free visa for visitor exactly when World Cup playing. Some fans not rich person and they have much money for paying visa and how expensive living cost in Mexico and Unite State, FIFA should take this points actually about living cost in countries will be host of FIFA World Cup on next edition.
Surely FIFA will come to a good decision in this regard by thinking about the audience. It is FIFA's responsibility to ensure that football fans can easily enjoy the game on the field. While getting a visa for Mexico is relatively easy, visas for the US and Canada are not so easy. It is very difficult for people from countries outside of Europe or America to get visas for Canada and America. Those who go to enjoy the football world cup directly on the field usually enter the countries where the football world cup is held with a tourist visa, but it is very difficult to get a tourist visa for America and Canada. Hopefully FIFA will definitely come to a discussion with these three countries and come to a decision on how to simplify the visa process.

I don't think it is difficult to get tourist visa for US as for Canada I don't know.In here many of my friends have already gotten a tourist visa for 2 years,not for the World Cup but to enjoy traveling and seeing US,once they have done so they can apply again and it will be far more easy the next time.For the moment right now they don't ask stupid things,except the normal bureaucratic procedures which come down,who you are,your legal and marital status and what is the level of your income (to find out if you can afford to go there for tourism and not for illegal migration purposes).

So even when the time comes for 2026 World Cup they will make it easier than it is although for me it is easy enough right now for anyone to get a tourist visa from US until now.


Compared to some other countries in the world, America got harder rules for the people who come to this country and take a visa but still, if you follow the rules they made and you don't have problems in your country with America this can be even easier to take a visa. But still for some people in some countries that's a bit hard to take a visa because of the bad relationship between their country and America.

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July 31, 2023, 04:39:11 PM
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I agree. Reality isn't always fair and I think by this time we already know that and accept the fact that it is not equal in almost everything. Each nation have its own advantage and disadvantage and in this instance that Northern American countries will host the event, countries that belong to the 2nd world countries and 3rd world countries will undergo a much stricter screening with more requirements before they are given the visa to be a tourist or watch the specific event. Compared to the first world countries where passport will suffice and they are the ones who actually have an advantage to an event like this because they can go inside and out with such ease and comfort.

There are a total of 104 matches to be played during the 2026 World Cup. Even if we take a conservative estimate of 25,000 non-American spectators per match, it will work out to a total of 2.5 million individuals. Is it even possible to monitor all these people? Obviously some of them are going to drop out of the radar and stay in the US illegally. That said, millions of illegals are entering the American territory every year from Mexico. So what is the big deal if a few thousand football fans overstay their visa? Anyway, let's see how the US immigration deals with football fans from third world nations.   

Not just from Mexico alone, people from across the world will flock towards a certain continent and with a reason, but we cannot deny that there might be some people who are taking this as an advantage where watching the FIFA wasn't the reason why they are flying towards Northern America. They want to migrate legally to illegally when their supposed stay are over, but that will not be a reason for them to go back and face the reality because their first reason why they chose to fly under the guise is because of the opportunity that they can have in these countries as the options for them is not the same if they will go back.

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July 31, 2023, 04:51:42 PM
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Surely FIFA will come to a good decision in this regard by thinking about the audience. It is FIFA's responsibility to ensure that football fans can easily enjoy the game on the field. While getting a visa for Mexico is relatively easy, visas for the US and Canada are not so easy. It is very difficult for people from countries outside of Europe or America to get visas for Canada and America. Those who go to enjoy the football world cup directly on the field usually enter the countries where the football world cup is held with a tourist visa, but it is very difficult to get a tourist visa for America and Canada. Hopefully FIFA will definitely come to a discussion with these three countries and come to a decision on how to simplify the visa process.
I don't think it is difficult to get tourist visa for US as for Canada I don't know.In here many of my friends have already gotten a tourist visa for 2 years,not for the World Cup but to enjoy traveling and seeing US,once they have done so they can apply again and it will be far more easy the next time.For the moment right now they don't ask stupid things,except the normal bureaucratic procedures which come down,who you are,your legal and marital status and what is the level of your income (to find out if you can afford to go there for tourism and not for illegal migration purposes).

So even when the time comes for 2026 World Cup they will make it easier than it is although for me it is easy enough right now for anyone to get a tourist visa from US until now.
Depends on where you live, I do not know where you are from but if you are from an Asian or African or middle eastern nation, then things start to be harder. If you live in Europe, then your friends getting it is understandable, or if it's not just tourism and something else, like education or business, then it's easier that way as well.

But, when we are talking about having a situation where you end up working towards being just a tourist, those places are harder. We are going to end up seeing if it's going to be an issue or not, USA visa is one of the hardest ones to get for some of the nations and we are going to see even here people trying, some will go, some won't be able to go, and they will probably all write here.

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July 31, 2023, 05:55:48 PM
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Surely FIFA will come to a good decision in this regard by thinking about the audience. It is FIFA's responsibility to ensure that football fans can easily enjoy the game on the field. While getting a visa for Mexico is relatively easy, visas for the US and Canada are not so easy. It is very difficult for people from countries outside of Europe or America to get visas for Canada and America. Those who go to enjoy the football world cup directly on the field usually enter the countries where the football world cup is held with a tourist visa, but it is very difficult to get a tourist visa for America and Canada. Hopefully FIFA will definitely come to a discussion with these three countries and come to a decision on how to simplify the visa process.
I don't think it is difficult to get tourist visa for US as for Canada I don't know.In here many of my friends have already gotten a tourist visa for 2 years,not for the World Cup but to enjoy traveling and seeing US,once they have done so they can apply again and it will be far more easy the next time.For the moment right now they don't ask stupid things,except the normal bureaucratic procedures which come down,who you are,your legal and marital status and what is the level of your income (to find out if you can afford to go there for tourism and not for illegal migration purposes).

So even when the time comes for 2026 World Cup they will make it easier than it is although for me it is easy enough right now for anyone to get a tourist visa from US until now.
Depends on where you live, I do not know where you are from but if you are from an Asian or African or middle eastern nation, then things start to be harder. If you live in Europe, then your friends getting it is understandable, or if it's not just tourism and something else, like education or business, then it's easier that way as well.

But, when we are talking about having a situation where you end up working towards being just a tourist, those places are harder. We are going to end up seeing if it's going to be an issue or not, USA visa is one of the hardest ones to get for some of the nations and we are going to see even here people trying, some will go, some won't be able to go, and they will probably all write here.

Third world countries tend to have a much difficult procedure before getting that visa compared to the ones who are coming from the first world countries or allied countries of North American nations where it is very easy for them to acquire it, some countries doesn't even need to acquire one because their passport alone is more than enough to make an entry. Quite unfair isn't it? Well, that is the reality that we are living in.

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July 31, 2023, 06:09:08 PM
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I don't think securing Visas to go and watch the FIFA World Cup that'll be hosted by Canada/Mexico/United States in 2024 by fans would be an issue for fans across the globe.
During the FIFA World Cup tournaments, there's provision of a special Visa for fans to the host country or countries and such Visa expires immediately at the World Cup is over. So any fan who has that kind of Visa to the host country is considered an illegal migrant at the expiration of the tournament.
Its seems good ideas for hosting of FIFA World Cup, United State and Canada are most difficult countries for visitor and what happen later when becoming host of World Cup will us get easy visa coming there. For Mexico I don't think has problem because around countries people come from easily visiting there but will United State and Canada have difficult rule coming there? I think good ideas have adopted by FIFA and give rule for all countries when becoming host of World Cup give free visa for visitor exactly when World Cup playing. Some fans not rich person and they have much money for paying visa and how expensive living cost in Mexico and Unite State, FIFA should take this points actually about living cost in countries will be host of FIFA World Cup on next edition.
Surely FIFA will come to a good decision in this regard by thinking about the audience. It is FIFA's responsibility to ensure that football fans can easily enjoy the game on the field. While getting a visa for Mexico is relatively easy, visas for the US and Canada are not so easy. It is very difficult for people from countries outside of Europe or America to get visas for Canada and America. Those who go to enjoy the football world cup directly on the field usually enter the countries where the football world cup is held with a tourist visa, but it is very difficult to get a tourist visa for America and Canada. Hopefully FIFA will definitely come to a discussion with these three countries and come to a decision on how to simplify the visa process.

I don't think it is difficult to get tourist visa for US as for Canada I don't know.In here many of my friends have already gotten a tourist visa for 2 years,not for the World Cup but to enjoy traveling and seeing US,once they have done so they can apply again and it will be far more easy the next time.For the moment right now they don't ask stupid things,except the normal bureaucratic procedures which come down,who you are,your legal and marital status and what is the level of your income (to find out if you can afford to go there for tourism and not for illegal migration purposes).

So even when the time comes for 2026 World Cup they will make it easier than it is although for me it is easy enough right now for anyone to get a tourist visa from US until now.
The U.S. visa is one of the most difficult. Only visas from England and Australia are more complicated, at least for Russia. Canada was easier in this way, you could get a work visa and many engineers went to work in Canada because the visa there is easier and the social guarantees are better.

I believe that during the championship the USA can simplify entry and exit for fans, as it was done for the World Championships in Qatar and Russia. In addition, all of Europe can travel to North America without visas, so I think that a lot of people will come. Air transportation between Canada and the US is excellent, so traveling between the cities will not be a problem. I think the biggest problem may be crime, especially in Mexico, but I think the fans will be guarded heavily.

I think that for fans the matches in Canada will be easy to attend.

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July 31, 2023, 07:07:58 PM
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Surely FIFA will come to a good decision in this regard by thinking about the audience. It is FIFA's responsibility to ensure that football fans can easily enjoy the game on the field. While getting a visa for Mexico is relatively easy, visas for the US and Canada are not so easy. It is very difficult for people from countries outside of Europe or America to get visas for Canada and America. Those who go to enjoy the football world cup directly on the field usually enter the countries where the football world cup is held with a tourist visa, but it is very difficult to get a tourist visa for America and Canada. Hopefully FIFA will definitely come to a discussion with these three countries and come to a decision on how to simplify the visa process.
I don't think it is difficult to get tourist visa for US as for Canada I don't know.In here many of my friends have already gotten a tourist visa for 2 years,not for the World Cup but to enjoy traveling and seeing US,once they have done so they can apply again and it will be far more easy the next time.For the moment right now they don't ask stupid things,except the normal bureaucratic procedures which come down,who you are,your legal and marital status and what is the level of your income (to find out if you can afford to go there for tourism and not for illegal migration purposes).

So even when the time comes for 2026 World Cup they will make it easier than it is although for me it is easy enough right now for anyone to get a tourist visa from US until now.
Depends on where you live, I do not know where you are from but if you are from an Asian or African or middle eastern nation, then things start to be harder. If you live in Europe, then your friends getting it is understandable, or if it's not just tourism and something else, like education or business, then it's easier that way as well.

But, when we are talking about having a situation where you end up working towards being just a tourist, those places are harder. We are going to end up seeing if it's going to be an issue or not, USA visa is one of the hardest ones to get for some of the nations and we are going to see even here people trying, some will go, some won't be able to go, and they will probably all write here.
Let's see how FIFA will look at this, what happens based on experience, and when there is a big party, hopefully there will be a relaxed policy so that spectators who have difficulty getting a Visa to go to the US (before the World Cup) will have an easier time during the World Cup.
This is something that is very important, because it will greatly affect the audience, also soccer fans may be disappointed and choose not to go to the US because of the difficulty of meeting the document requirements to go there.

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July 31, 2023, 07:24:23 PM
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The U.S. visa is one of the most difficult. Only visas from England and Australia are more complicated, at least for Russia. Canada was easier in this way, you could get a work visa and many engineers went to work in Canada because the visa there is easier and the social guarantees are better.

I believe that during the championship the USA can simplify entry and exit for fans, as it was done for the World Championships in Qatar and Russia. In addition, all of Europe can travel to North America without visas, so I think that a lot of people will come. Air transportation between Canada and the US is excellent, so traveling between the cities will not be a problem. I think the biggest problem may be crime, especially in Mexico, but I think the fans will be guarded heavily.

I think that for fans the matches in Canada will be easy to attend.
It is true that you agree with what you said that the process of watching the World Cup live will get various conveniences and simplifications. For now the process of obtaining a visa is very complicated, but I think this will be different during the World Cup.

The United States will be the venue for the most matches on a basis of 11 cities, followed by Mexico with 3 cities and finally Canada with 2 cities. With the addition of teams to 48 countries, the number will automatically be 104 which are divided into 12 groups.

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July 31, 2023, 09:54:43 PM
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I don't think securing Visas to go and watch the FIFA World Cup that'll be hosted by Canada/Mexico/United States in 2024 by fans would be an issue for fans across the globe.
During the FIFA World Cup tournaments, there's provision of a special Visa for fans to the host country or countries and such Visa expires immediately at the World Cup is over. So any fan who has that kind of Visa to the host country is considered an illegal migrant at the expiration of the tournament.
Its seems good ideas for hosting of FIFA World Cup, United State and Canada are most difficult countries for visitor and what happen later when becoming host of World Cup will us get easy visa coming there. For Mexico I don't think has problem because around countries people come from easily visiting there but will United State and Canada have difficult rule coming there? I think good ideas have adopted by FIFA and give rule for all countries when becoming host of World Cup give free visa for visitor exactly when World Cup playing. Some fans not rich person and they have much money for paying visa and how expensive living cost in Mexico and Unite State, FIFA should take this points actually about living cost in countries will be host of FIFA World Cup on next edition.
Surely FIFA will come to a good decision in this regard by thinking about the audience. It is FIFA's responsibility to ensure that football fans can easily enjoy the game on the field. While getting a visa for Mexico is relatively easy, visas for the US and Canada are not so easy. It is very difficult for people from countries outside of Europe or America to get visas for Canada and America. Those who go to enjoy the football world cup directly on the field usually enter the countries where the football world cup is held with a tourist visa, but it is very difficult to get a tourist visa for America and Canada. Hopefully FIFA will definitely come to a discussion with these three countries and come to a decision on how to simplify the visa process.

I don't think it is difficult to get tourist visa for US as for Canada I don't know.In here many of my friends have already gotten a tourist visa for 2 years,not for the World Cup but to enjoy traveling and seeing US,once they have done so they can apply again and it will be far more easy the next time.For the moment right now they don't ask stupid things,except the normal bureaucratic procedures which come down,who you are,your legal and marital status and what is the level of your income (to find out if you can afford to go there for tourism and not for illegal migration purposes).

So even when the time comes for 2026 World Cup they will make it easier than it is although for me it is easy enough right now for anyone to get a tourist visa from US until now.
The U.S. visa is one of the most difficult. Only visas from England and Australia are more complicated, at least for Russia. Canada was easier in this way, you could get a work visa and many engineers went to work in Canada because the visa there is easier and the social guarantees are better.

I believe that during the championship the USA can simplify entry and exit for fans, as it was done for the World Championships in Qatar and Russia. In addition, all of Europe can travel to North America without visas, so I think that a lot of people will come. Air transportation between Canada and the US is excellent, so traveling between the cities will not be a problem. I think the biggest problem may be crime, especially in Mexico, but I think the fans will be guarded heavily.

I think that for fans the matches in Canada will be easy to attend.

Three years left to start the world cup and I think during this time Merica will find a way to make it easier for all people in the world to take a visa to America and they hosted these great tournaments before that's why they know they should solve these problems for all people. Maybe they will make a solution for the world cup visitors to take different kinds of visas to make it easier for them.

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August 01, 2023, 02:44:48 AM
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Not just from Mexico alone, people from across the world will flock towards a certain continent and with a reason, but we cannot deny that there might be some people who are taking this as an advantage where watching the FIFA wasn't the reason why they are flying towards Northern America. They want to migrate legally to illegally when their supposed stay are over, but that will not be a reason for them to go back and face the reality because their first reason why they chose to fly under the guise is because of the opportunity that they can have in these countries as the options for them is not the same if they will go back.
This is going to be a huge problem for the US to solve, on one hand they want to receive fans that love soccer and want nothing else but to watch the matches live, on the other hand they are going to have a lot of people that are going to try to take advantage of the situation and outstay their visa and remain at the US for as long as they can and get a job there, how will they solve this problem? I have no idea but they better come up with something good, otherwise people are going to complain endlessly about this.
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Not just from Mexico alone, people from across the world will flock towards a certain continent and with a reason, but we cannot deny that there might be some people who are taking this as an advantage where watching the FIFA wasn't the reason why they are flying towards Northern America. They want to migrate legally to illegally when their supposed stay are over, but that will not be a reason for them to go back and face the reality because their first reason why they chose to fly under the guise is because of the opportunity that they can have in these countries as the options for them is not the same if they will go back.
This is going to be a huge problem for the US to solve, on one hand they want to receive fans that love soccer and want nothing else but to watch the matches live, on the other hand they are going to have a lot of people that are going to try to take advantage of the situation and outstay their visa and remain at the US for as long as they can and get a job there, how will they solve this problem? I have no idea but they better come up with something good, otherwise people are going to complain endlessly about this.

@Silberman according to various news reports it’s rumoured that Biden government is planning to organise a task force which should make the process easy for obtaining the visa for the fans who wish to travel to see the World Cup but nothing is confirmed yet. Furthermore with elections due next year whoever win’s may make further changes to this task force hence I don’t expect much clarity on this till the next year’s election are over.
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August 01, 2023, 10:15:05 AM
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@Silberman according to various news reports it’s rumoured that Biden government is planning to organise a task force which should make the process easy for obtaining the visa for the fans who wish to travel to see the World Cup but nothing is confirmed yet. Furthermore with elections due next year whoever win’s may make further changes to this task force hence I don’t expect much clarity on this till the next year’s election are over.

First of all, Biden is trailing in most of the opinion polls. And secondly, even if a task force is setup, it will not reduce the long wait times and other difficulties which are currently experienced by the visa applicants from third world nations. If a Republican candidate ends up winning the next POTUS elections, then I expect the visa rules to be further tightened. Anyway, in the end you will never get the perfect solution. In 2022, we had relaxed visa rules, but then a lot of groups (especially unmarried couples and LGBT) faced discrimination. In 2026, it is going to be the opposite.

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August 01, 2023, 11:18:46 AM
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The U.S. visa is one of the most difficult. Only visas from England and Australia are more complicated, at least for Russia. Canada was easier in this way, you could get a work visa and many engineers went to work in Canada because the visa there is easier and the social guarantees are better.

I believe that during the championship the USA can simplify entry and exit for fans, as it was done for the World Championships in Qatar and Russia. In addition, all of Europe can travel to North America without visas, so I think that a lot of people will come. Air transportation between Canada and the US is excellent, so traveling between the cities will not be a problem. I think the biggest problem may be crime, especially in Mexico, but I think the fans will be guarded heavily.

I think that for fans the matches in Canada will be easy to attend.
It is true that you agree with what you said that the process of watching the World Cup live will get various conveniences and simplifications. For now the process of obtaining a visa is very complicated, but I think this will be different during the World Cup.

The United States will be the venue for the most matches on a basis of 11 cities, followed by Mexico with 3 cities and finally Canada with 2 cities. With the addition of teams to 48 countries, the number will automatically be 104 which are divided into 12 groups.
It is logical that FIFA's main bet is on the USA as the richest country in the region and in the world. I think there will be no problems with the broadcast from the USA and with the movement of fans between cities cause in the US most developed air service in the world, after europe I guess.
Messi apparently moved to Miami cause he probably wants to participate in the World Cup once again in 2026.

Mexico is here with the Canada and the U.S for fans from South America and the Caribbean could attend matches of their teams without visas and have no problems with communication, because most of them also speak Spanish.

What was surprising that only 2 cities in Canada that were involved. It is strange that Canada was not given at least 3-4 cities to host, because Montreal, Ottawa and Vancouver are big enough cities with good air connections.

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August 01, 2023, 01:42:53 PM
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@Silberman according to various news reports it’s rumoured that Biden government is planning to organise a task force which should make the process easy for obtaining the visa for the fans who wish to travel to see the World Cup but nothing is confirmed yet. Furthermore with elections due next year whoever win’s may make further changes to this task force hence I don’t expect much clarity on this till the next year’s election are over.

First of all, Biden is trailing in most of the opinion polls. And secondly, even if a task force is setup, it will not reduce the long wait times and other difficulties which are currently experienced by the visa applicants from third world nations. If a Republican candidate ends up winning the next POTUS elections, then I expect the visa rules to be further tightened. Anyway, in the end you will never get the perfect solution. In 2022, we had relaxed visa rules, but then a lot of groups (especially unmarried couples and LGBT) faced discrimination. In 2026, it is going to be the opposite.

There are many rumors about new decisions in the government of America and some people think Joe Biden is going to make some changes in the government of America and the steps to get the visa and make it easier for people in all over the world to take via for America but the fact about taking visa is it's not the same for all people in different countries because for countries that's easier and for some other countries with bad a relation shop with America this will be harder.

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August 02, 2023, 01:49:50 AM
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There are many rumors about new decisions in the government of America and some people think Joe Biden is going to make some changes in the government of America and the steps to get the visa and make it easier for people in all over the world to take via for America but the fact about taking visa is it's not the same for all people in different countries because for countries that's easier and for some other countries with bad a relation shop with America this will be harder.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/03/16/us/visa-process-united-states.html



Yeah but you can't really compare general population data of visas denied with visas for the world cup.

On the other hand it could clearly be an excuse, so they might get a bit paranoid, and deny visas from African fans.

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August 02, 2023, 11:26:56 AM
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Yeah but you can't really compare general population data of visas denied with visas for the world cup.

On the other hand it could clearly be an excuse, so they might get a bit paranoid, and deny visas from African fans.

Those from countries such as Syria, Yemen, Afghanistan and Somalia have a greater chance of visa rejection and I don't think that any of these countries will qualify for the FIFA World Cup in 2026 (only Syria has the slightest of chances). And even if some football fan from these countries apply for visa, so that he can watch the world cup, it is very likely that his application may get rejected. The world cup is not going to make a difference in this case. However, my main concern is for people from India, Pakistan.etc. They face unusually high rejection rates now.

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August 02, 2023, 01:39:45 PM
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Yeah but you can't really compare general population data of visas denied with visas for the world cup.

On the other hand it could clearly be an excuse, so they might get a bit paranoid, and deny visas from African fans.

Those from countries such as Syria, Yemen, Afghanistan and Somalia have a greater chance of visa rejection and I don't think that any of these countries will qualify for the FIFA World Cup in 2026 (only Syria has the slightest of chances). And even if some football fan from these countries apply for visa, so that he can watch the world cup, it is very likely that his application may get rejected. The world cup is not going to make a difference in this case. However, my main concern is for people from India, Pakistan.etc. They face unusually high rejection rates now.

The main reason for countries like Syria, Yemen, Ghana, and Somalia to get their visa rejected is mostly because of their governments and the bad behavior of their governments with other countries and these counties are unknown for this also in some cases the season is a bad relationship with America which made this situation to have them rejected when they ask for US visa, however, there is still the chance for America to change some rules until that time.

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August 02, 2023, 08:25:04 PM
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Not just from Mexico alone, people from across the world will flock towards a certain continent and with a reason, but we cannot deny that there might be some people who are taking this as an advantage where watching the FIFA wasn't the reason why they are flying towards Northern America. They want to migrate legally to illegally when their supposed stay are over, but that will not be a reason for them to go back and face the reality because their first reason why they chose to fly under the guise is because of the opportunity that they can have in these countries as the options for them is not the same if they will go back.
This is going to be a huge problem for the US to solve, on one hand they want to receive fans that love soccer and want nothing else but to watch the matches live, on the other hand they are going to have a lot of people that are going to try to take advantage of the situation and outstay their visa and remain at the US for as long as they can and get a job there, how will they solve this problem? I have no idea but they better come up with something good, otherwise people are going to complain endlessly about this.

@Silberman according to various news reports it’s rumoured that Biden government is planning to organise a task force which should make the process easy for obtaining the visa for the fans who wish to travel to see the World Cup but nothing is confirmed yet. Furthermore with elections due next year whoever win’s may make further changes to this task force hence I don’t expect much clarity on this till the next year’s election are over.

With these politicians riding the topic, it might be more messy instead of being organized so that the flow of the upcoming big event will be handled correctly because it will be safe to say that these politicians have their own way how to handle that kind of event and we cannot also remove the fact that some of them are just saying things that are just almost too good to be true just to make their ratings go higher.

...hence I don’t expect much clarity on this till the next year’s election are over.

Precisely and I agree with you about that.

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August 02, 2023, 11:03:32 PM
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It is quite difficult for some people in some countries to obtain a visa for America, and it usually takes a lot of time for them to obtain one. I think the United States will make some exceptions during the world cup when it hosts it, as well as try to put in place some rules to make it easier for people to obtain a visa during the tournament.

We must not forget that there will be presidential elections at the US on 2024, and it seems that once again immigration is going to be a very hot topic, so while it would make sense for the US to relax the requirements for fans which want to obtain a visa to visit their country during the world cup, we may as well end up seeing the opposite and instead we could see the US becoming way stricter on their policies, and people that had already bought their tickets and booked hotel rooms may be denied a visa losing a lot of money in the process.

I just forgot about the presidential elections in 2024, I guess because of the 2026 world cup we are going to see many topics and news about the possible presidents who want to make special rules for the world cup and make some special rules for it. I think after the presidential elections that's possible to see some changes in the USA and some changes in rules.

the US government has had a lot of headaches for many years because of mexico in terms of the illegal entry of mexicans, there is also the issue of drugs and the great mexican criminals who have committed atrocities, so with this joint world cup i am saddened asking how the US government intends to deal with the mexican border during the world cup, because I believe that many people will want to watch as many games as possible, so they will watch some games in the us and then travel by car to mexico to watch other games and then return to the US to watch more games

if the government at the border are very strict then it will make the number of people who will spend hours waiting for bureaucracy at the border very large and the most annoying thing for me is sitting in the car in a long line of cars waiting for the police to keep searching each car and documents, we will see how the government will deal with this so that the service is quick and does not create embarrassment for people who go to watch the games and of course the drug dealers will want to take advantage of this world cup event

They cannot and they will not change whole country rules for a tournament even if they are hosting the greatest tournament in the world. Because there is huge interest from people in all over the world to take visas to America, but still America can make some special rules and let the people who want to watch the world cup to have their visas easier or after than at other times.

I'm not a US citizen, but from what I've been following on the news, the US has been a country where violence and crimes have been happening a lot, especially with people who have guns and arrive in public places and start killing other people, even simple fights have ended in tragedy and always involving weapons, so I keep asking myself if it would be good if the usa and mexico organized the world cup being that they are two countries where the level of safety in the streets is problematic, the rich who walk with private security guards and driving in cars with armored windows will be very safe, apart from traveling by private plane or helicopter, but middle-class people who are going to watch the world cup

they will have to walk, take a taxi, use public transport and knowing that Americans (I'm not talking about all of them) have guns and have a violent behavior in which everything has to be resolved in the fight and not with words, I see that the guys who are in this world cup and they are not rich they will suffer, when they want to leave the usa for mexico the situation will be worse from the border to mexico itself which is another place where there are people who prefer to solve everything using weapons, fifa just looks at the money that each country is willing to spend to organize the world cup, they don't look at people's safety

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August 02, 2023, 11:53:16 PM
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It is quite difficult for some people in some countries to obtain a visa for America, and it usually takes a lot of time for them to obtain one. I think the United States will make some exceptions during the world cup when it hosts it, as well as try to put in place some rules to make it easier for people to obtain a visa during the tournament.

We must not forget that there will be presidential elections at the US on 2024, and it seems that once again immigration is going to be a very hot topic, so while it would make sense for the US to relax the requirements for fans which want to obtain a visa to visit their country during the world cup, we may as well end up seeing the opposite and instead we could see the US becoming way stricter on their policies, and people that had already bought their tickets and booked hotel rooms may be denied a visa losing a lot of money in the process.

I just forgot about the presidential elections in 2024, I guess because of the 2026 world cup we are going to see many topics and news about the possible presidents who want to make special rules for the world cup and make some special rules for it. I think after the presidential elections that's possible to see some changes in the USA and some changes in rules.

the US government has had a lot of headaches for many years because of mexico in terms of the illegal entry of mexicans, there is also the issue of drugs and the great mexican criminals who have committed atrocities, so with this joint world cup i am saddened asking how the US government intends to deal with the mexican border during the world cup, because I believe that many people will want to watch as many games as possible, so they will watch some games in the us and then travel by car to mexico to watch other games and then return to the US to watch more games

if the government at the border are very strict then it will make the number of people who will spend hours waiting for bureaucracy at the border very large and the most annoying thing for me is sitting in the car in a long line of cars waiting for the police to keep searching each car and documents, we will see how the government will deal with this so that the service is quick and does not create embarrassment for people who go to watch the games and of course the drug dealers will want to take advantage of this world cup event

They cannot and they will not change whole country rules for a tournament even if they are hosting the greatest tournament in the world. Because there is huge interest from people in all over the world to take visas to America, but still America can make some special rules and let the people who want to watch the world cup to have their visas easier or after than at other times.

I'm not a US citizen, but from what I've been following on the news, the US has been a country where violence and crimes have been happening a lot, especially with people who have guns and arrive in public places and start killing other people, even simple fights have ended in tragedy and always involving weapons, so I keep asking myself if it would be good if the usa and mexico organized the world cup being that they are two countries where the level of safety in the streets is problematic, the rich who walk with private security guards and driving in cars with armored windows will be very safe, apart from traveling by private plane or helicopter, but middle-class people who are going to watch the world cup

they will have to walk, take a taxi, use public transport and knowing that Americans (I'm not talking about all of them) have guns and have a violent behavior in which everything has to be resolved in the fight and not with words, I see that the guys who are in this world cup and they are not rich they will suffer, when they want to leave the usa for mexico the situation will be worse from the border to mexico itself which is another place where there are people who prefer to solve everything using weapons, fifa just looks at the money that each country is willing to spend to organize the world cup, they don't look at people's safety
Something happening during the world's popular event is surely going to be an ashame for the US government. Taking the same in mind surely better security will be provided on the streets. Compared to the past nowadays gun culture have decreased, but we can't be sure that the scenario will be the same. Combined efforts from the US - Mexico security team could make things in an orderly manner. While organising such an event surely FIFA would take the safety of the viewers into consideration than anything else.

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