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That's right, Inoue is not your ordinary boxer who's is easy to predict and evident to see his limits. Currently, there's no boxer that managed to unlock Inoue's weakness and Donaire was the only boxer who actually gave him a good toe-to-toe fight but even that fight wasn't enough to show his weakness and up until now, it's still a mystery and it will be an expensive move by any boxer just to know what is it.
Speaking about perfection then we do see those boxers who doesnt really have any defeat or loss which we could say that they are really that legend or good on this boxing industry.
I wont really be that surprised if ever Inoue would really be retiring without having that single loss on a certain fight.Although this would really be still a long journey or something that
cant really be determined since we dont know if there would be those strong boxers whom he would able to face off.We cant really even guarantee that this upcoming
fight doesnt impose risks on Inoue's flawless stats.
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March 04, 2023, 11:22:04 PM
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That's right, Inoue is not your ordinary boxer who's is easy to predict and evident to see his limits. Currently, there's no boxer that managed to unlock Inoue's weakness and Donaire was the only boxer who actually gave him a good toe-to-toe fight but even that fight wasn't enough to show his weakness and up until now, it's still a mystery and it will be an expensive move by any boxer just to know what is it.

For weakness of Inoue to unfold, he just needs to fight a better boxer than he is.  He may be dominated the bantamweight division, but I do not think that he will do the same in the super bantamweight.  Super Bantamweight is a different division and there are several known boxers that can possibly defeat Inoue in this division.  The boxer in this division have heavier punches and more resistance to blows or punches, and since Inoue is taking a shortcut, he probably doesn't know the extent of the punching power of this division.

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March 05, 2023, 11:44:53 AM
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That's right, Inoue is not your ordinary boxer who's is easy to predict and evident to see his limits. Currently, there's no boxer that managed to unlock Inoue's weakness and Donaire was the only boxer who actually gave him a good toe-to-toe fight but even that fight wasn't enough to show his weakness and up until now, it's still a mystery and it will be an expensive move by any boxer just to know what is it.

For weakness of Inoue to unfold, he just needs to fight a better boxer than he is.  He may be dominated the bantamweight division, but I do not think that he will do the same in the super bantamweight.  Super Bantamweight is a different division and there are several known boxers that can possibly defeat Inoue in this division.  The boxer in this division have heavier punches and more resistance to blows or punches, and since Inoue is taking a shortcut, he probably doesn't know the extent of the punching power of this division.

We are going to find out after this fight. Inoue is heavily favored here because he is a hyped boxer, so let's see if our expectations will be met by Inoue. He is a KO artist, and fighters like that usually gain attention from the public since they are entertaining boxers. So in this fight, everyone is still expecting that Inoue will win via KO.

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March 05, 2023, 02:28:45 PM
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That's right, Inoue is not your ordinary boxer who's is easy to predict and evident to see his limits. Currently, there's no boxer that managed to unlock Inoue's weakness and Donaire was the only boxer who actually gave him a good toe-to-toe fight but even that fight wasn't enough to show his weakness and up until now, it's still a mystery and it will be an expensive move by any boxer just to know what is it.

For weakness of Inoue to unfold, he just needs to fight a better boxer than he is.  He may be dominated the bantamweight division, but I do not think that he will do the same in the super bantamweight.  Super Bantamweight is a different division and there are several known boxers that can possibly defeat Inoue in this division.  The boxer in this division have heavier punches and more resistance to blows or punches, and since Inoue is taking a shortcut, he probably doesn't know the extent of the punching power of this division.

Again with this shortcut thing Grin

Really? Why do people keep on insisting that Inoue did a much easier path that directs him to the championship fight when in-fact he earned it because he managed to unify all the belts at 118 and then there's this WBO who gave him a super-champion title which mandates that he can fight directly with Fulton and not Murodjon.

Did you honestly expect that Inoue and the other guys who did a successful run in their previous division to start at the bottom? That's a perk, not a shortcut. They earned it.

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Super Bantamweight is a different division and there are several known boxers that can possibly defeat Inoue in this division
A different division but not that really different as the difference was just 4 lbs or a kilo and a half. Also, Inoue already had some signs previously before he made the climb that 118 might not be suitable for him anymore as his weight continues to add up, so there's a huge chance that 122 might be his natural weight.

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he probably doesn't know the extent of the punching power of this division.
I guess it's the other way around Cheesy

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March 05, 2023, 04:40:16 PM
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That's right, Inoue is not your ordinary boxer who's is easy to predict and evident to see his limits. Currently, there's no boxer that managed to unlock Inoue's weakness and Donaire was the only boxer who actually gave him a good toe-to-toe fight but even that fight wasn't enough to show his weakness and up until now, it's still a mystery and it will be an expensive move by any boxer just to know what is it.

For weakness of Inoue to unfold, he just needs to fight a better boxer than he is.  He may be dominated the bantamweight division, but I do not think that he will do the same in the super bantamweight.  Super Bantamweight is a different division and there are several known boxers that can possibly defeat Inoue in this division.  The boxer in this division have heavier punches and more resistance to blows or punches, and since Inoue is taking a shortcut, he probably doesn't know the extent of the punching power of this division.

Again with this shortcut thing Grin

Really? Why do people keep on insisting that Inoue did a much easier path that directs him to the championship fight when in-fact he earned it because he managed to unify all the belts at 118 and then there's this WBO who gave him a super-champion title which mandates that he can fight directly with Fulton and not Murodjon.

Did you honestly expect that Inoue and the other guys who did a successful run in their previous division to start at the bottom? That's a perk, not a shortcut. They earned it.

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Super Bantamweight is a different division and there are several known boxers that can possibly defeat Inoue in this division
A different division but not that really different as the difference was just 4 lbs or a kilo and a half. Also, Inoue already had some signs previously before he made the climb that 118 might not be suitable for him anymore as his weight continues to add up, so there's a huge chance that 122 might be his natural weight.

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he probably doesn't know the extent of the punching power of this division.
I guess it's the other way around Cheesy

I agree because that's somehow normal already for the champions to face another champions directly in the upper weight class and that includes Naoya Inoue as he unified all the belts in bantamweight.
Like for example the legendary Manny Pacquaio, I'm quite positive enough that he cannot attain such feat to be an 8-Division world champion if he started at the bottom in his every climb in the upper weight classes.

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March 05, 2023, 06:50:25 PM
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That's right, Inoue is not your ordinary boxer who's is easy to predict and evident to see his limits. Currently, there's no boxer that managed to unlock Inoue's weakness and Donaire was the only boxer who actually gave him a good toe-to-toe fight but even that fight wasn't enough to show his weakness and up until now, it's still a mystery and it will be an expensive move by any boxer just to know what is it.

For weakness of Inoue to unfold, he just needs to fight a better boxer than he is.  He may be dominated the bantamweight division, but I do not think that he will do the same in the super bantamweight.  Super Bantamweight is a different division and there are several known boxers that can possibly defeat Inoue in this division.  The boxer in this division have heavier punches and more resistance to blows or punches, and since Inoue is taking a shortcut, he probably doesn't know the extent of the punching power of this division.

We are going to find out after this fight. Inoue is heavily favored here because he is a hyped boxer, so let's see if our expectations will be met by Inoue. He is a KO artist, and fighters like that usually gain attention from the public since they are entertaining boxers. So in this fight, everyone is still expecting that Inoue will win via KO.

Yes, there's no doubt that Inoue will be favored to be the favorite whether by people or by bookies because he is making some noise in the industry. People might not know him before because his name started to scatter when he first defeat the Filipino Flash, Nonito Donaire on their first encounter and then the rest is already a history. Now, he is on a different division looking forward to mark the division again. It will be interesting to see how will he perform this time as this is his debut.
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That's right, Inoue is not your ordinary boxer who's is easy to predict and evident to see his limits. Currently, there's no boxer that managed to unlock Inoue's weakness and Donaire was the only boxer who actually gave him a good toe-to-toe fight but even that fight wasn't enough to show his weakness and up until now, it's still a mystery and it will be an expensive move by any boxer just to know what is it.

For weakness of Inoue to unfold, he just needs to fight a better boxer than he is.  He may be dominated the bantamweight division, but I do not think that he will do the same in the super bantamweight.  Super Bantamweight is a different division and there are several known boxers that can possibly defeat Inoue in this division.  The boxer in this division have heavier punches and more resistance to blows or punches, and since Inoue is taking a shortcut, he probably doesn't know the extent of the punching power of this division.

Again with this shortcut thing Grin

Really? Why do people keep on insisting that Inoue did a much easier path that directs him to the championship fight when in-fact he earned it because he managed to unify all the belts at 118 and then there's this WBO who gave him a super-champion title which mandates that he can fight directly with Fulton and not Murodjon.

Did you honestly expect that Inoue and the other guys who did a successful run in their previous division to start at the bottom? That's a perk, not a shortcut. They earned it.
I also think it is odd people are referring to what is happening in this way when this is not the case, the four major boxing associations made a deal that if a boxer is able to unify all the belts and that boxer wants to move up a division then they will immediately give that fighter a chance to fight for a title on that new division, this is why Usyk was able to fight Joshua after becoming the undisputed at the cruiserweight division, so this is not even a favor that is being made to Inoue, this is just part of the standard procedure that any fighter will receive if they show they can completely dominate their current division.
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So finally Inoue vs Fulton is officially a go. The fight will happen in Inoue's hometown of Yokohama, Japan. Prior to this, we already heard that Fulton was given the blessing of PBC boss Al Haymon to face Inoue without PBC and its networks included in the event. Top Rank and its partner ESPN and Inoue's local partners are the ones handling this event. Hopefully, this is the start of PBC being open to its fighters from other promotions and networks although this is not possible without the eagerness of Fulton to face boxing's numero uno/dos Naoya Inoue.

Speaking of pound-for-pound ranking which is a big deal in boxing, an Inoue win will surely secure its top spot at The Ring which listed Uysk as its top. Meanwhile, Transnational Boxing Rankings Board (TBRB) ranked Inoue as its top. TBRB was created when the bible of boxing, The Ring was purchased by GBP, branding it not independent and unreliable anymore due to the risk of being influenced by the promoter, its network, and the sanctioning bodies. Although I have to admit that if Usyk wins the undisputed belt at heavyweight, he deserved the top spot.

The race is still on for the first fighter to become a 2-division undisputed in this 4-belt era. Usyk is probably the first one to try since he is nearing to reach a deal with Tyson Fury. Inoue is possibly next if he hurdles Fulton and becomes the WBO and WBC champion while the remaining 2 belts are already held by a single champion, Murodjon Akhmadaliev. Terrence Crawford should have had the best chance earlier including a 3-division undisputed attempt but it seems like PBC is blocking him to accomplish history at the cost of its fighters.

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March 06, 2023, 11:50:08 AM
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That's right, Inoue is not your ordinary boxer who's is easy to predict and evident to see his limits. Currently, there's no boxer that managed to unlock Inoue's weakness and Donaire was the only boxer who actually gave him a good toe-to-toe fight but even that fight wasn't enough to show his weakness and up until now, it's still a mystery and it will be an expensive move by any boxer just to know what is it.

For weakness of Inoue to unfold, he just needs to fight a better boxer than he is.  He may be dominated the bantamweight division, but I do not think that he will do the same in the super bantamweight.  Super Bantamweight is a different division and there are several known boxers that can possibly defeat Inoue in this division.  The boxer in this division have heavier punches and more resistance to blows or punches, and since Inoue is taking a shortcut, he probably doesn't know the extent of the punching power of this division.

Again with this shortcut thing Grin

Really? Why do people keep on insisting that Inoue did a much easier path that directs him to the championship fight when in-fact he earned it because he managed to unify all the belts at 118 and then there's this WBO who gave him a super-champion title which mandates that he can fight directly with Fulton and not Murodjon.

Did you honestly expect that Inoue and the other guys who did a successful run in their previous division to start at the bottom? That's a perk, not a shortcut. They earned it.
I also think it is odd people are referring to what is happening in this way when this is not the case, the four major boxing associations made a deal that if a boxer is able to unify all the belts and that boxer wants to move up a division then they will immediately give that fighter a chance to fight for a title on that new division, this is why Usyk was able to fight Joshua after becoming the undisputed at the cruiserweight division, so this is not even a favor that is being made to Inoue, this is just part of the standard procedure that any fighter will receive if they show they can completely dominate their current division.

I think you are right with your sentiment. The organizations gave him the opportunities to challenge the current champ with
the division he chooses to move up.

It's a good perk after unifying or dominating the division he came from, I think people who understand will not disagree with
the setup, he established his name from the division he dominated.

Choosing to move up and try stripping the current champ would be a nice challenge to prove how good he was.
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It's a good perk after unifying or dominating the division he came from, I think people who understand will not disagree with
the setup, he established his name from the division he dominated.
Choosing to move up and try stripping the current champ would be a nice challenge to prove how good he was.

Considering how strong Inoue is and how his last fights ended up, he is actually deserving to fight the champion as soon as he moves up his division and has a chance to also quickly dominate this weight division if he ever wins it, he only got some few fights to stay there when he defends his titles and probably will gonna move up again for another opportunity to further increase his merits and glory in his pro boxing career while he is in his very best.

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March 06, 2023, 04:08:10 PM
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Fight is officially declared to happen May 7 in Japan, at Yokohama Arena. In this is Inoue's home town to expect that the arena will sell off, 17,000 sits are available so it's almost the same as MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas. It will be carry by ESPN+ in the US. This is Fulton's first fight outside of the US and he is very much game about it as he wants to travel to Japan and beat their champion. Its a different venue though where Inoue knockout Donaire, it is the Saitama Super Arena. So let's wait for the odds to be released by out favorite sports bookies. But I will not be surprised if Fulton as the champion will be the underdog in this fight.

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March 06, 2023, 07:07:52 PM
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Fight is officially declared to happen May 7 in Japan, at Yokohama Arena. In this is Inoue's home town to expect that the arena will sell off, 17,000 sits are available so it's almost the same as MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas.

The reason why promoters choose Japan as the venue. Aside from it can generate the same revenue when it is held in the other big venue instead outside Japan, Naoya Inoue, being super popular in Japan will boost the market sales.

Imagine, just in Japan alone, the expected revenue is really big and what's more, if they will count PPVs outside the country.

I hope others who questioned the venue will have their mind clear about why Inoue is fighting in Japan mostly on his career. It's not that he doesn't want to stay out of his comfort zone but business side, he's really a cash cow by the Top Rank in Japan. Establishing and building a legacy while taking advantage of the business side.

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March 06, 2023, 09:12:48 PM
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That's right, Inoue is not your ordinary boxer who's is easy to predict and evident to see his limits. Currently, there's no boxer that managed to unlock Inoue's weakness and Donaire was the only boxer who actually gave him a good toe-to-toe fight but even that fight wasn't enough to show his weakness and up until now, it's still a mystery and it will be an expensive move by any boxer just to know what is it.

For weakness of Inoue to unfold, he just needs to fight a better boxer than he is.  He may be dominated the bantamweight division, but I do not think that he will do the same in the super bantamweight.  Super Bantamweight is a different division and there are several known boxers that can possibly defeat Inoue in this division.  The boxer in this division have heavier punches and more resistance to blows or punches, and since Inoue is taking a shortcut, he probably doesn't know the extent of the punching power of this division.

Again with this shortcut thing Grin

Really? Why do people keep on insisting that Inoue did a much easier path that directs him to the championship fight when in-fact he earned it because he managed to unify all the belts at 118 and then there's this WBO who gave him a super-champion title which mandates that he can fight directly with Fulton and not Murodjon.

Did you honestly expect that Inoue and the other guys who did a successful run in their previous division to start at the bottom? That's a perk, not a shortcut. They earned it.
I also think it is odd people are referring to what is happening in this way when this is not the case, the four major boxing associations made a deal that if a boxer is able to unify all the belts and that boxer wants to move up a division then they will immediately give that fighter a chance to fight for a title on that new division, this is why Usyk was able to fight Joshua after becoming the undisputed at the cruiserweight division, so this is not even a favor that is being made to Inoue, this is just part of the standard procedure that any fighter will receive if they show they can completely dominate their current division.

But some people didn't see it that way because for them, Inoue is taking a shortcut because he is now fighting Fulton directly on his debut at super-bantamweight when it is indeed normal already as it's not Inoue who did it first. Besides, he is favored by the governing bodies because of what he achieved at bantamweight, now he is just taking advantage of it.

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March 06, 2023, 09:48:40 PM
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Fight is officially declared to happen May 7 in Japan, at Yokohama Arena. In this is Inoue's home town to expect that the arena will sell off, 17,000 sits are available so it's almost the same as MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas.

The reason why promoters choose Japan as the venue. Aside from it can generate the same revenue when it is held in the other big venue instead outside Japan, Naoya Inoue, being super popular in Japan will boost the market sales.

Imagine, just in Japan alone, the expected revenue is really big and what's more, if they will count PPVs outside the country.

I hope others who questioned the venue will have their mind clear about why Inoue is fighting in Japan mostly on his career. It's not that he doesn't want to stay out of his comfort zone but business side, he's really a cash cow by the Top Rank in Japan. Establishing and building a legacy while taking advantage of the business side.

Exactly, any fight that includes Naoya Inoue will become an instant hit especially if the fight will take place in Japan as Inoue can attract a lot of audience in their country alone, what more for the other people from other parts of the world who would like to see this fight too. I mean, it's not that too difficult to think why Bob Arum is holding the fight in Japan because they can sell it more and will have more profits than holding the fight somewhere in America.

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March 06, 2023, 10:29:30 PM
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Fight is officially declared to happen May 7 in Japan, at Yokohama Arena. In this is Inoue's home town to expect that the arena will sell off, 17,000 sits are available so it's almost the same as MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas.

The reason why promoters choose Japan as the venue. Aside from it can generate the same revenue when it is held in the other big venue instead outside Japan, Naoya Inoue, being super popular in Japan will boost the market sales.

Imagine, just in Japan alone, the expected revenue is really big and what's more, if they will count PPVs outside the country.

I hope others who questioned the venue will have their mind clear about why Inoue is fighting in Japan mostly on his career. It's not that he doesn't want to stay out of his comfort zone but business side, he's really a cash cow by the Top Rank in Japan. Establishing and building a legacy while taking advantage of the business side.

Yes, that is true, the money that is being generated in Japan alone is going to be huge, as per reports, they are going to split the guaranteed $ 8 million, Inoue getting the lion share. And maybe this is the reason, why PBC and Fulton are willing to travel to Japan,



https://twitter.com/YoungDanielDad/status/1615906940101566464

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https://www.boxingscene.com/fulton-on-inoue-i-feel-like-i-style-beat-anyone--172923

So let's see how far Fulton can go against Inoue, he struggles against a volume punching in Figueroa, then he level it up facing the Monster, this time, it's not how many punches Inoue will throw, it's going to be the accuracy and the power behind, be in a jab or right overhand.

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March 06, 2023, 10:58:45 PM
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But some people didn't see it that way because for them, Inoue is taking a shortcut because he is now fighting Fulton directly on his debut at super-bantamweight when it is indeed normal already as it's not Inoue who did it first. Besides, he is favored by the governing bodies because of what he achieved at bantamweight, now he is just taking advantage of it.

Don't know why other people say that Naoya Inoue takes a shortcut when it's obvious that no one from lower rankings in the Super Bantamweight can match Inoue.

Isn't the fact that Inoue is unbeatable at the bantamweight division and no one from there can even come close to his level, is not enough to convince those people that he is already qualified to face a champion at the Super Bantamweight which is a much better fight to see than organizing a debut fight for him against a considered not even contender.

I want to ask those people who considered Naoya Inoue as taking a shortcut, aside from facing WBC and WBO champion Stephen Fulton and WBA and IBF champion Murodjon Akhmadaliev, who else in the Super Bantamweight is a good match for Naoya Inoue that is worthy to watch and make sense to organize?
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It's a good perk after unifying or dominating the division he came from, I think people who understand will not disagree with
the setup, he established his name from the division he dominated.
Choosing to move up and try stripping the current champ would be a nice challenge to prove how good he was.

Considering how strong Inoue is and how his last fights ended up, he is actually deserving to fight the champion as soon as he moves up his division and has a chance to also quickly dominate this weight division if he ever wins it, he only got some few fights to stay there when he defends his titles and probably will gonna move up again for another opportunity to further increase his merits and glory in his pro boxing career while he is in his very best.
Too early to say about on making have another moving up on weight division as if we are already concluding that he could beat up Fulton and dominate this weight division.I dont really have no doubts
about his capability but it is really that too early for you to say that he could beat up Fulton and move for another weight or step up.Lets see if he would be able to handle it out on beating up
Fulton without much effort but we know that he wont really be a Champion without reason and this is why Inoue should really be still that careful because another division is considered always different.

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March 07, 2023, 12:48:10 AM
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And as Fulton said,

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"I feel like I have the style to beat anyone -- I can adjust and do whatever to beat anybody."

https://www.boxingscene.com/fulton-on-inoue-i-feel-like-i-style-beat-anyone--172923

So let's see how far Fulton can go against Inoue, he struggles against a volume punching in Figueroa, then he level it up facing the Monster, this time, it's not how many punches Inoue will throw, it's going to be the accuracy and the power behind, be in a jab or right overhand.
Well, I like the confidence of Fulton, nothing is impossible indeed if he can adjust and come up to an effective strategy to beat Inoue. But it's a fact that this time he might face his first loss knowing how good the monster is.

Majority of us are already expecting Inoue to beat Fulton then he can level up to division once again. I think this one is an easy fight for him and it's an advantage on his side that the fight will be held on his home town.

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March 07, 2023, 01:47:49 AM
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And as Fulton said,

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"I feel like I have the style to beat anyone -- I can adjust and do whatever to beat anybody."

https://www.boxingscene.com/fulton-on-inoue-i-feel-like-i-style-beat-anyone--172923

So let's see how far Fulton can go against Inoue, he struggles against a volume punching in Figueroa, then he level it up facing the Monster, this time, it's not how many punches Inoue will throw, it's going to be the accuracy and the power behind, be in a jab or right overhand.
Well, I like the confidence of Fulton, nothing is impossible indeed if he can adjust and come up to an effective strategy to beat Inoue. But it's a fact that this time he might face his first loss knowing how good the monster is.

Majority of us are already expecting Inoue to beat Fulton then he can level up to division once again. I think this one is an easy fight for him and it's an advantage on his side that the fight will be held on his home town.

Well with the way he handled the pressure of Brandon Figueroa and to win? that's already a moral booster for Fulton and that's why he test himself again by traveling to Japan.

Definitely the money is good enough for this division, it's already huge and I guess the Japanese promoter has deep pockets. So we will see, he is the Monster as we know and Fulton might have a real problem dealing with that power with they fight.

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March 07, 2023, 02:30:39 AM
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That's right, Inoue is not your ordinary boxer who's is easy to predict and evident to see his limits. Currently, there's no boxer that managed to unlock Inoue's weakness and Donaire was the only boxer who actually gave him a good toe-to-toe fight but even that fight wasn't enough to show his weakness and up until now, it's still a mystery and it will be an expensive move by any boxer just to know what is it.

For weakness of Inoue to unfold, he just needs to fight a better boxer than he is.  He may be dominated the bantamweight division, but I do not think that he will do the same in the super bantamweight.  Super Bantamweight is a different division and there are several known boxers that can possibly defeat Inoue in this division.  The boxer in this division have heavier punches and more resistance to blows or punches, and since Inoue is taking a shortcut, he probably doesn't know the extent of the punching power of this division.

I very much agree, however, this is what the sport of boxing is supposed to be. The best boxers should challenge the other best boxers in another weight division or in their present weight division. This will bring the sport forward again and not need to become a comedy show to get more attention similar to Jake Paul. Fulton vs. Inoue, Tank vs. King Ry and Haney vs. Lomanchenko are good fights for the fans and the sport.

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