[Boxing] Stephen Fulton vs. Naoya Inoue | WBC & WBO 122 lbs bout | July 25

[TravelMug]

And now that Casimero also campaigns at 122 lbs, we are still intrigue with this fight and that's why we are still calling for it. Nevertheless, it might be a difficult road for Casimero as he still needs to make a name for himself at super bantamweight. His fight here although he won, is against unknown fighters. So he needs to fight a rank boxer in order to be recognized again.

His time will eventually come if he does not quit. Knowing how good he is, as long as the opportunity knocks, he is willing to grab it. I believe he is still in his prime. At his current age, he can still become a champion again. Let's wait for the outcome of this fight and see the potential fights for Casimero in that division.

Casimero is a fairly well-known boxer and has won several titles in his class, even for the Batam WBO class he has his belt from 2019 to 2022.
He will be the favorite fighter in this fight.
I think he's not too old, so his stamina is still good enough to become a champion, his record is quite good where he got 33 wins 22 KO.

Well, let's see hopefully he can fight as we hope.

This is the fight between Fulton and Inoue, and if we see Casimero having a chance to fight in the future, we should expect that he will not be the favorite if he becomes the challenger to either Inoue or Fulton. However, as a bettor, I would be glad to bet on him because I believe he is very hungry for a win and to be recognized as one of the best boxers of his generation. It's more like his last chance to prove himself to the world, and I'm riding with that.

The closest that we can see the odds in my opinion is Tapales, another good Filipino boxer. So the plan is as we have heard is that the winner of this fight, vs Marlon Tapales next for unification.

So if that happens then we can compare at least what will be the odds for Casimero. As if we are just changing the name of Tapales here. So before we talk about Casimero vs Inoue or Fulton, we will see first Tapales vs Inoue or Fulton and I think it will be a great fight although going to be very hard for the Filipino as he needed all the tools to beat either boxer.

[Yaunfitda]

And now that Casimero also campaigns at 122 lbs, we are still intrigue with this fight and that's why we are still calling for it. Nevertheless, it might be a difficult road for Casimero as he still needs to make a name for himself at super bantamweight. His fight here although he won, is against unknown fighters. So he needs to fight a rank boxer in order to be recognized again.

His time will eventually come if he does not quit. Knowing how good he is, as long as the opportunity knocks, he is willing to grab it. I believe he is still in his prime. At his current age, he can still become a champion again. Let's wait for the outcome of this fight and see the potential fights for Casimero in that division.

Casimero is a fairly well-known boxer and has won several titles in his class, even for the Batam WBO class he has his belt from 2019 to 2022.
He will be the favorite fighter in this fight.
I think he's not too old, so his stamina is still good enough to become a champion, his record is quite good where he got 33 wins 22 KO.

Well, let's see hopefully he can fight as we hope.

This is the fight between Fulton and Inoue, and if we see Casimero having a chance to fight in the future, we should expect that he will not be the favorite if he becomes the challenger to either Inoue or Fulton. However, as a bettor, I would be glad to bet on him because I believe he is very hungry for a win and to be recognized as one of the best boxers of his generation. It's more like his last chance to prove himself to the world, and I'm riding with that.

We should, if Casimero can still remain active and relevant in the next 2 years, we might say that he has a good chance to bet Inoue eventhough he would be a huge underdog in that fight.

The thing with Casimero is not he is not backing down to any challenge. Although right now he seems to be on the way to maybe a crack on a belt in any organization at the super bantamweight, any of those current champions right now. But we love to see him and Inoue getting into the ring, at least for the belt so that we can see how good Inoue is.

[Natalim]

The thing with Casimero is not he is not backing down to any challenge. Although right now he seems to be on the way to maybe a crack on a belt in any organization at the super bantamweight, any of those current champions right now. But we love to see him and Inoue getting into the ring, at least for the belt so that we can see how good Inoue is.

He doesn't know how to back down but all he needs is an opportunity to fight for the championship. However, since boxing is a business, it won't be easy for him to achieve that. Inoue is focused on winning the championship in this fight, so it might be tough for Casimero. Inoue may not agree to arrange a fight with him, especially if the rumors are true that he is avoiding Casimero, who has the potential to jeopardize his career.

[bisdak40]

The closest that we can see the odds in my opinion is Tapales, another good Filipino boxer. So the plan is as we have heard is that the winner of this fight, vs Marlon Tapales next for unification.

So if that happens then we can compare at least what will be the odds for Casimero. As if we are just changing the name of Tapales here. So before we talk about Casimero vs Inoue or Fulton, we will see first Tapales vs Inoue or Fulton and I think it will be a great fight although going to be very hard for the Filipino as he needed all the tools to beat either boxer.

You are right there mate, WBA has given the clearance to Tapales to fight whoever wins on the Inoue vs Fulton fight, they have not ordered Tapales to defend his belt via mandatory defense so this action is good for the Filipino pug.

But for me, Casimero has the higher chance of defeating either Inoue or Fulton but he has to do his thing first (win every fight) before calling out whoever will be the unified champion in this division.

For his part, Tapales is already a big winner by just fighting for the unified belt as i think this could be the biggest purse that he will receive in his boxing career, that's for sure.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

The closest that we can see the odds in my opinion is Tapales, another good Filipino boxer. So the plan is as we have heard is that the winner of this fight, vs Marlon Tapales next for unification.

So if that happens then we can compare at least what will be the odds for Casimero. As if we are just changing the name of Tapales here. So before we talk about Casimero vs Inoue or Fulton, we will see first Tapales vs Inoue or Fulton and I think it will be a great fight although going to be very hard for the Filipino as he needed all the tools to beat either boxer.

You are right there mate, WBA has given the clearance to Tapales to fight whoever wins on the Inoue vs Fulton fight, they have not ordered Tapales to defend his belt via mandatory defense so this action is good for the Filipino pug.

But for me, Casimero has the higher chance of defeating either Inoue or Fulton but he has to do his thing first (win every fight) before calling out whoever will be the unified champion in this division.

For his part, Tapales is already a big winner by just fighting for the unified belt as i think this could be the biggest purse that he will receive in his boxing career, that's for sure.

I don't like to say this, but its seems that circumstances has smiled on Tapales + his talent that's why he is where he is right now. A 2 belt champ already and is looking for a unification fight with either against Inoue vs Fulton.

So doubt that it will be a money fight for him and for his handlers. And for sure they are going to watch this fight at July 25. And then see who is going to win and then have a better strategy once they go for a unification fight.

[inthelongrun]

The thing with Casimero is not he is not backing down to any challenge. Although right now he seems to be on the way to maybe a crack on a belt in any organization at the super bantamweight, any of those current champions right now. But we love to see him and Inoue getting into the ring, at least for the belt so that we can see how good Inoue is.

He doesn't know how to back down but all he needs is an opportunity to fight for the championship. However, since boxing is a business, it won't be easy for him to achieve that. Inoue is focused on winning the championship in this fight, so it might be tough for Casimero. Inoue may not agree to arrange a fight with him, especially if the rumors are true that he is avoiding Casimero, who has the potential to jeopardize his career.

Of course, Casimero is not backing down to a title fight since it is everybody's dream to become world champions (except maybe for Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia ). Although I doubt Casimero is not backing down from a challenge that would be too risky, especially from someone below his ranking. I saw a post last week about a contender challenging him and it seems ignored.

Anyways, I would love to see Casimero get his 4th division title. Imagine if Casimero will be the one facing Inoue for the undisputed belts next year? Inoue is favored to win over Fulton and Tapales is in waiting mode after getting the approval to face the winner for the undisputed belts. Inoue's footwork and hand speed will be too quick and fast but maybe a single power shot from Casimero will change the fight.

[Jating]

The thing with Casimero is not he is not backing down to any challenge. Although right now he seems to be on the way to maybe a crack on a belt in any organization at the super bantamweight, any of those current champions right now. But we love to see him and Inoue getting into the ring, at least for the belt so that we can see how good Inoue is.

He doesn't know how to back down but all he needs is an opportunity to fight for the championship. However, since boxing is a business, it won't be easy for him to achieve that. Inoue is focused on winning the championship in this fight, so it might be tough for Casimero. Inoue may not agree to arrange a fight with him, especially if the rumors are true that he is avoiding Casimero, who has the potential to jeopardize his career.

Of course, Casimero is not backing down to a title fight since it is everybody's dream to become world champions (except maybe for Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia ). Although I doubt Casimero is not backing down from a challenge that would be too risky, especially from someone below his ranking. I saw a post last week about a contender challenging him and it seems ignored.

Anyways, I would love to see Casimero get his 4th division title. Imagine if Casimero will be the one facing Inoue for the undisputed belts next year? Inoue is favored to win over Fulton and Tapales is in waiting mode after getting the approval to face the winner for the undisputed belts. Inoue's footwork and hand speed will be too quick and fast but maybe a single power shot from Casimero will change the fight.

Yeah, although Inoue has good hand speed and power, but we can't discount the fact that Casimero too has power in his punch. And it's deceiving, when he fought Tete we thought that there is no power when it hit Tete, but the legs of Tete is gone and we didn't see how fast it is. We just have to look at the replay and how that left hook touch Tete at the corner of his temple and that's it.

So still a very good fight for Inoue at super bantamweight and hopefully we can see this fight happening next year at least. And it might be good if Casimero will be the challenger, so that he will be extra motivated to pull an upset win.

[Russlenat]

So still a very good fight for Inoue at super bantamweight and hopefully we can see this fight happening next year at least. And it might be good if Casimero will be the challenger, so that he will be extra motivated to pull an upset win.

As of now, his ranking is not yet considered to be a challenger to the champion, you can see the ranking here.

https://www.boxingscene.com/rankings

It might take some time, but as long as Casimero continues to fight, he will eventually reach a level where he becomes the number one challenger. In the case of a mandatory fight, the champion would not be able to refuse it, as the organization could strip him of the belt.

[Natalim]

So still a very good fight for Inoue at super bantamweight and hopefully we can see this fight happening next year at least. And it might be good if Casimero will be the challenger, so that he will be extra motivated to pull an upset win.

As of now, his ranking is not yet considered to be a challenger to the champion, you can see the ranking here.

https://www.boxingscene.com/rankings

It might take some time, but as long as Casimero continues to fight, he will eventually reach a level where he becomes the number one challenger. In the case of a mandatory fight, the champion would not be able to refuse it, as the organization could strip him of the belt.

Is that ranking already updated? Casimero won his last fight, so it's likely that his ranking has increased somewhat. However, since he fought an unknown boxer, the impact on his ranking may be minimal, and it's unlikely to propel him to the number one spot.

as of this ranking ; https://boxrec.com/en/ratings?division=Super%20Bantamweight&offset=0&sex=M

Casimero is currently ranked at number 2. Based on this information, it seems that this ranking is the most recent and up-to-date.

[Oasisman]

Inoue's footwork and hand speed will be too quick and fast but maybe a single power shot from Casimero will change the fight.

That's what I thought too. As we all are hyped up between the Casimero and Inoue match up, but I just can't deny that Inoue had the advantage in terms of overall skills. I mean Inoue is fast, agile, and has a strong power. inoue is also an unpredictable fighter as he can throw a combination of punches that you'll never know whether he aims for the body or the head. This is gonna be a huge challenge for Casimero in the future, he's defensive skills will put into test against Inoue's relentless offensive fire power. I guess consulting with Donaire will be a huge help for Casimero. Donaire figured out how to take advantage of the opening when Inoue is throwing punches, however It was never enough because Inoue was too fast and also has a solid chin. If Casimero can pull up a perfect counter, he'd for sure going to put Inoue into sleep, but then again that's going to be a very hard thing to achieve.

[Hypnosis00]

Inoue's footwork and hand speed will be too quick and fast but maybe a single power shot from Casimero will change the fight.

That's what I thought too. As we all are hyped up between the Casimero and Inoue match up, but I just can't deny that Inoue had the advantage in terms of overall skills. I mean Inoue is fast, agile, and has a strong power. inoue is also an unpredictable fighter as he can throw a combination of punches that you'll never know whether he aims for the body or the head. This is gonna be a huge challenge for Casimero in the future, he's defensive skills will put into test against Inoue's relentless offensive fire power. I guess consulting with Donaire will be a huge help for Casimero. Donaire figured out how to take advantage of the opening when Inoue is throwing punches, however It was never enough because Inoue was too fast and also has a solid chin. If Casimero can pull up a perfect counter, he'd for sure going to put Inoue into sleep, but then again that's going to be a very hard thing to achieve.

Casimero has been involved in many battles in the past, including a victory over Zolani Tete, who was faster, taller, and in his prime. Because of this, I have no doubt that Casimero has the potential to defeat Inoue as well. However, the opportunity to face Inoue has not been given to him, which can be quite frustrating. It remains a dream matchup for now. It is possible for the fight to happen if Inoue is willing to take the risk. However, as long as he is under the Top Rank promotion, it might be challenging for him to make his own decision and prove himself against a tough challenger like Casimero.

[Kemarit]

Inoue's footwork and hand speed will be too quick and fast but maybe a single power shot from Casimero will change the fight.

That's what I thought too. As we all are hyped up between the Casimero and Inoue match up, but I just can't deny that Inoue had the advantage in terms of overall skills. I mean Inoue is fast, agile, and has a strong power. inoue is also an unpredictable fighter as he can throw a combination of punches that you'll never know whether he aims for the body or the head. This is gonna be a huge challenge for Casimero in the future, he's defensive skills will put into test against Inoue's relentless offensive fire power. I guess consulting with Donaire will be a huge help for Casimero. Donaire figured out how to take advantage of the opening when Inoue is throwing punches, however It was never enough because Inoue was too fast and also has a solid chin. If Casimero can pull up a perfect counter, he'd for sure going to put Inoue into sleep, but then again that's going to be a very hard thing to achieve.

Right, his hand speed and power very deadly combination, Mike Tyson even said that Inoue is better than Pacquiao (although it's debatable). Donaire has the perfect strategy when they had the rematch, but as we have seen, it seems the Inoue knows what Donaire wanted to do or what his plan his and adjusted on the fly and that power though, very hard to recover from that because once your leg is gone it will be over. So let's just wait for Casimero to make a run or at least be a rank boxer and maybe he can see a fight with Inoue in the future.

[mirakal]

Inoue's footwork and hand speed will be too quick and fast but maybe a single power shot from Casimero will change the fight.

That's what I thought too. As we all are hyped up between the Casimero and Inoue match up, but I just can't deny that Inoue had the advantage in terms of overall skills. I mean Inoue is fast, agile, and has a strong power. inoue is also an unpredictable fighter as he can throw a combination of punches that you'll never know whether he aims for the body or the head. This is gonna be a huge challenge for Casimero in the future, he's defensive skills will put into test against Inoue's relentless offensive fire power. I guess consulting with Donaire will be a huge help for Casimero. Donaire figured out how to take advantage of the opening when Inoue is throwing punches, however It was never enough because Inoue was too fast and also has a solid chin. If Casimero can pull up a perfect counter, he'd for sure going to put Inoue into sleep, but then again that's going to be a very hard thing to achieve.

Right, his hand speed and power very deadly combination, Mike Tyson even said that Inoue is better than Pacquiao (although it's debatable). Donaire has the perfect strategy when they had the rematch, but as we have seen, it seems the Inoue knows what Donaire wanted to do or what his plan his and adjusted on the fly and that power though, very hard to recover from that because once your leg is gone it will be over. So let's just wait for Casimero to make a run or at least be a rank boxer and maybe he can see a fight with Inoue in the future.

It is really debatable and I know that there are a lot of people who would gladly take that trouble just to argue who is better. Besides, we don't have to believe what Mike Tyson is saying because even if he is legend, he did not have the opportunity to battle both Inoue and Pacquiao because if he did and their time was the same, most probably we already know by now who is better.

[harizen]

It is possible for the fight to happen if Inoue is willing to take the risk. However, as long as he is under the Top Rank promotion, it might be challenging for him to make his own decision and prove himself against a tough challenger like Casimero.

Personally, for me, it doesn't make sense.

Why Naoya Inoue or Top Rank promotions should adjust for that possibility just for the reason that Inoue should prove himself against a tough challenger? Regardless if a challenger is considered tough, then make their way up to be eligible for the title match.

In the first place, Casimero's camp is the one to blame for why the chance of fighting against Inoue didn't happen. Therefore, he should be the one to make adjustments, not Inoue or Top Rank making that move. I'm with Quadro Alas, of course, against Inoue, if they will fight. However, if only Casimero's camp did the right thing, he should be the one fighting Inoue in the Undisputed Title Match at the 118 division and not Paul Butler.

[Distinctin]

It is possible for the fight to happen if Inoue is willing to take the risk. However, as long as he is under the Top Rank promotion, it might be challenging for him to make his own decision and prove himself against a tough challenger like Casimero.

Personally, for me, it doesn't make sense.

Why Naoya Inoue or Top Rank promotions should adjust for that possibility just for the reason that Inoue should prove himself against a tough challenger? Regardless if a challenger is considered tough, then make their way up to be eligible for the title match.

In the first place, Casimero's camp is the one to blame for why the chance of fighting against Inoue didn't happen. Therefore, he should be the one to make adjustments, not Inoue or Top Rank making that move. I'm with Quadro Alas, of course, against Inoue, if they will fight. However, if only Casimero's camp did the right thing, he should be the one fighting Inoue in the Undisputed Title Match at the 118 division and not Paul Butler.

Would Inoue still be interested in fighting Casimero in an undisputed bout if the previous scheduling issue had not occurred? Inoue and Casimero were initially scheduled to fight, but it was unfortunately canceled due to the COVID-19 pandemic. However, even after the pandemic subsided, Inoue did not make the fight happen. This situation can be quite frustrating, and it's understandable for fans to speculate whether Inoue is unwilling to risk his record by facing Casimero.

Just think of this, Inoue fought Donaire twice but could not even give Casimero a chance to fight him.

[carlisle1]

Just think of this, Inoue fought Donaire twice but could not even give Casimero a chance to fight him.

Easy money for Bob Arum, lesser risk with high rewards that at stake, Donaire is more popular than Casimero. We all know that,
the international fans covered a widespread for making huge amounts of money.

But, looking also at that point, if Inoue is really hunger in challenging rising stars like him, it's better to take Casimero, both on their primes
and the fame and achievements of whoever will win value a lot more since fans do love fighters without a fear.

Though we never know what fate will be, maybe chances of seeing them just like Mayweather and Pacquiao will happen along the way.

[Yamifoud]

Just think of this, Inoue fought Donaire twice but could not even give Casimero a chance to fight him.

Easy money for Bob Arum, lesser risk with high rewards that at stake, Donaire is more popular than Casimero. We all know that,
the international fans covered a widespread for making huge amounts of money.

But, looking also at that point, if Inoue is really hunger in challenging rising stars like him, it's better to take Casimero, both on their primes
and the fame and achievements of whoever will win value a lot more since fans do love fighters without a fear.

Though we never know what fate will be, maybe chances of seeing them just like Mayweather and Pacquiao will happen along the way.

Your explanation is on point. Donaire is indeed more popular compared to Casimero, and he is no longer in his prime, which is why Top Rank was able to easily arrange the fight. Defeating a popular fighter like Donaire would also make Inoue more popular, ultimately benefiting the promoter and increasing Inoue's value in the world of boxing.

However, I am optimistic that the time will come when they will still face each other, with Casimero as the challenger and Inoue as the defending champion. Hopefully, this will happen by next year, as it wouldn't be ideal to see a prime Inoue fighting Casimero, who is no longer in his prime.

[Shamm]

Just think of this, Inoue fought Donaire twice but could not even give Casimero a chance to fight him.

Easy money for Bob Arum, lesser risk with high rewards that at stake, Donaire is more popular than Casimero. We all know that,
the international fans covered a widespread for making huge amounts of money.

But, looking also at that point, if Inoue is really hunger in challenging rising stars like him, it's better to take Casimero, both on their primes
and the fame and achievements of whoever will win value a lot more since fans do love fighters without a fear.

Though we never know what fate will be, maybe chances of seeing them just like Mayweather and Pacquiao will happen along the way.

Your explanation is on point. Donaire is indeed more popular compared to Casimero, and he is no longer in his prime, which is why Top Rank was able to easily arrange the fight. Defeating a popular fighter like Donaire would also make Inoue more popular, ultimately benefiting the promoter and increasing Inoue's value in the world of boxing.

However, I am optimistic that the time will come when they will still face each other, with Casimero as the challenger and Inoue as the defending champion. Hopefully, this will happen by next year, as it wouldn't be ideal to see a prime Inoue fighting Casimero, who is no longer in his prime.

You are right that mate cause we all know that if a fighter defeating a super star fighter like for example in our defating donaire which is we are all know that donaire is very popular so inoue claim his new supporters.  and this time inoue is one of the popular boxer nowadays. And about casimero and inoue its better if next year their fight will come and let see who is the the real strong.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

It is possible for the fight to happen if Inoue is willing to take the risk. However, as long as he is under the Top Rank promotion, it might be challenging for him to make his own decision and prove himself against a tough challenger like Casimero.

Personally, for me, it doesn't make sense.

Why Naoya Inoue or Top Rank promotions should adjust for that possibility just for the reason that Inoue should prove himself against a tough challenger? Regardless if a challenger is considered tough, then make their way up to be eligible for the title match.

In the first place, Casimero's camp is the one to blame for why the chance of fighting against Inoue didn't happen. Therefore, he should be the one to make adjustments, not Inoue or Top Rank making that move. I'm with Quadro Alas, of course, against Inoue, if they will fight. However, if only Casimero's camp did the right thing, he should be the one fighting Inoue in the Undisputed Title Match at the 118 division and not Paul Butler.

Would Inoue still be interested in fighting Casimero in an undisputed bout if the previous scheduling issue had not occurred? Inoue and Casimero were initially scheduled to fight, but it was unfortunately canceled due to the COVID-19 pandemic. However, even after the pandemic subsided, Inoue did not make the fight happen. This situation can be quite frustrating, and it's understandable for fans to speculate whether Inoue is unwilling to risk his record by facing Casimero.

Just think of this, Inoue fought Donaire twice but could not even give Casimero a chance to fight him.

The fight didn't happen because Casimero has problem making the weight. He is the WBO champion that time, and for sure if Naoya Inoue wanted to get all the belts then he has to fight John Riel that time.

Casimero will just have to defend his belt against Butler to seal a fight with Inoue. Unfortunately, he can't make the weight so Butler became the champion and then he was knockout by Inoue to get the last belt. If only Casimero doesn't have problems with his weight that time then maybe we already have seen them fight in the ring already.

[Japinat]

It is possible for the fight to happen if Inoue is willing to take the risk. However, as long as he is under the Top Rank promotion, it might be challenging for him to make his own decision and prove himself against a tough challenger like Casimero.

Personally, for me, it doesn't make sense.

Why Naoya Inoue or Top Rank promotions should adjust for that possibility just for the reason that Inoue should prove himself against a tough challenger? Regardless if a challenger is considered tough, then make their way up to be eligible for the title match.

In the first place, Casimero's camp is the one to blame for why the chance of fighting against Inoue didn't happen. Therefore, he should be the one to make adjustments, not Inoue or Top Rank making that move. I'm with Quadro Alas, of course, against Inoue, if they will fight. However, if only Casimero's camp did the right thing, he should be the one fighting Inoue in the Undisputed Title Match at the 118 division and not Paul Butler.

Would Inoue still be interested in fighting Casimero in an undisputed bout if the previous scheduling issue had not occurred? Inoue and Casimero were initially scheduled to fight, but it was unfortunately canceled due to the COVID-19 pandemic. However, even after the pandemic subsided, Inoue did not make the fight happen. This situation can be quite frustrating, and it's understandable for fans to speculate whether Inoue is unwilling to risk his record by facing Casimero.

Just think of this, Inoue fought Donaire twice but could not even give Casimero a chance to fight him.

The fight didn't happen because Casimero has problem making the weight. He is the WBO champion that time, and for sure if Naoya Inoue wanted to get all the belts then he has to fight John Riel that time.

Casimero will just have to defend his belt against Butler to seal a fight with Inoue. Unfortunately, he can't make the weight so Butler became the champion and then he was knockout by Inoue to get the last belt. If only Casimero doesn't have problems with his weight that time then maybe we already have seen them fight in the ring already.

Yes, at that time, the odds are really not in favor of Casimero because his weight is really dragging him down and making him inactive in the industry because of the same problem and just like what happened when he got stripped before he fought Butler, that might happen too if his fight with Inoue have been restored. But that just cannot be as after Covid subsided, another variant hit them again and made the government of Japan to close their borders to all foreign people.