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Author Topic: [Boxing] Stephen Fulton vs. Naoya Inoue | WBC & WBO 122 lbs bout | July 25  (Read 7017 times)
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July 02, 2023, 08:09:13 PM
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Donaire was a great example of a true champion, as he was well aware that Inoue could beat him again, and yet he still risked a unification match to test himself against Inoue once more.
Inoue is also a great example as he always seeks to fight the best opponents, which is why he became an undisputed champion in the bantamweight division. After winning, he wasted no time in moving up for the super bantamweight title match. If he succeeds again, it would be a tremendous accomplishment, and I am certain he will continue pushing his limits.

He had to climb in ranks though, as he started is fights all in Japan, but his handlers knows his true potential and they have been given the chance to fight in the US and be exposed from boxing fans because of Bob Arum.

So we might hate Bob Arum and Top Rank, but surely they know how to promote a fighter like Manny Pacquiao. And after winning the WBSS tournament, Inoue become a household name in the US and then he started his path to defeat all great fighters unifying all the belts.

Now, his journey continues as he might want to do it at 122 lbs.

There will be a time in the future for sure that he will have to fight in other countries like in US or somewhere in Europe, or even in the Middle East if Inoue will face an opponent that have a much bigger name than him. But not now because the organizer and promoter is more inclined to make the fight happen in Japan as it was already evident that they can generate big profits in that certain country and considering that Inoue won this fight and will take the undisputed fight, I'm also confident that they will contest the fight in Japan again instead of the Philippines where Marlon Tapales came from.

I agree, but somewhat if Inoue really wanted to become bigger, then USA should be the place where he should conquer. He is now even compare to Manny as both come from Asia and even Mike Tyson praises Inoue and says that he is even better than Pacquiao.

But Manny didn't fight in his home country, but instead all of his fight is in the US soil during his ran that's why he become a legend.

I think Inoue should learn from that. Bob Arum is his manager and for sure he also knows that because he created that blue print. If this fight is in the US, it's going to be huge. Right now it seems that Inoue doesn't want to get out of his comfort zone, just saying.

That is not the reason why Manny Pacquiao had most of his fights abroad and not in his own land, after all boxing industry is a business industry, and for Manny Pacquiao to earn huge profits from the fights he had, he will be needing to fight abroad where there's a lot of money that can be generated.

Because if only Manny Pacquiao can have the same revenues inside the Philippines, then he could've done that already because aside from having the crowd advantage, he will be no longer needed to adjust in a certain country just to train.

Exactly, and that's what I'm trying to drive at the at that argument that Inoue should be fighting in States more often and not in his country. Sure he can make money, but maybe he can do it in the tail end of his career. Now that he is at the top and peak, he should go to Vegas and fight or San Antonio where Manny started to make a big name by beating Marco Antonio Barrera.

As compare to Manny who doesn't have a option but to be in the US because there is no incentive of him fighting in the Philippines.

Inoue has built a name already in the US and he could capitalized from it by fighting in the US in my opinion.

Naoya Inoue had no quarrels whether he will fight inside Japan, in US or in any other country. It's just that organizers and Bob Arum prefer to make the fight happen in Inoue's backyard because they might have already compared the revenues to other places and it's much more suitable for Inoue to challenge Fulton in Japan as that will generate more profits for them.

Inoue can have this fight in a US soil but I guess it is already established that more money can be made in Japan where Inoue is already an icon rather than in US where Fulton is not yet considered in that level.

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July 03, 2023, 09:18:50 AM
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Naoya Inoue had no quarrels whether he will fight inside Japan, in US or in any other country. It's just that organizers and Bob Arum prefer to make the fight happen in Inoue's backyard because they might have already compared the revenues to other places and it's much more suitable for Inoue to challenge Fulton in Japan as that will generate more profits for them.

Inoue can have this fight in a US soil but I guess it is already established that more money can be made in Japan where Inoue is already an icon rather than in US where Fulton is not yet considered in that level.

I agree with that. Based on his records, we can see that most of his fights have taken place in Japan. However, he has also fought outside his country with the same dominant results. So it seems that the revenue generated from his fights matters a lot. In the world of boxing, the higher weight divisions tend to be the money makers, while Inoue's current division may not yet generate as much financial interest.

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July 03, 2023, 09:31:11 AM
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Naoya Inoue had no quarrels whether he will fight inside Japan, in US or in any other country. It's just that organizers and Bob Arum prefer to make the fight happen in Inoue's backyard because they might have already compared the revenues to other places and it's much more suitable for Inoue to challenge Fulton in Japan as that will generate more profits for them.

Inoue can have this fight in a US soil but I guess it is already established that more money can be made in Japan where Inoue is already an icon rather than in US where Fulton is not yet considered in that level.

I agree with that. Based on his records, we can see that most of his fights have taken place in Japan. However, he has also fought outside his country with the same dominant results. So it seems that the revenue generated from his fights matters a lot. In the world of boxing, the higher weight divisions tend to be the money makers, while Inoue's current division may not yet generate as much financial interest.

Nope, Inoue already has established a good name and he has been mentioned by several boxing legends and some active boxers as well. Whoever Inoue is facing it will always going to generate a good money because the boxing fans would come to see Inoue's performance.

 A boxer who have an excellent skill sets can be easily become popular that will attract boxing fans.
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July 03, 2023, 11:22:38 AM
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Nope, Inoue already has established a good name and he has been mentioned by several boxing legends and some active boxers as well. Whoever Inoue is facing it will always going to generate a good money because the boxing fans would come to see Inoue's performance.

 A boxer who have an excellent skill sets can be easily become popular that will attract boxing fans.

No doubt about it because right now the boxers in his weight division wanted to fight him either to steal the show or at least get some decent amount of money from their fight. His skills are rare and he is excellent when it comes to giving the fans the real fight they wanted to see in a boxing match. So he is gaining more fans after his good performances in his latest fight.
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July 03, 2023, 06:28:34 PM
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Just think of this, Inoue fought Donaire twice but could not even give Casimero a chance to fight him.

Easy money for Bob Arum, lesser risk with high rewards that at stake, Donaire is more popular than Casimero. We all know that,
the international fans covered a widespread for making huge amounts of money.

But, looking also at that point, if Inoue is really hunger in challenging rising stars like him, it's better to take Casimero, both on their primes
and the fame and achievements of whoever will win value a lot more since fans do love fighters without a fear.

Though we never know what fate will be, maybe chances of seeing them just like Mayweather and Pacquiao will happen along the way.

Your explanation is on point. Donaire is indeed more popular compared to Casimero, and he is no longer in his prime, which is why Top Rank was able to easily arrange the fight. Defeating a popular fighter like Donaire would also make Inoue more popular, ultimately benefiting the promoter and increasing Inoue's value in the world of boxing.

However, I am optimistic that the time will come when they will still face each other, with Casimero as the challenger and Inoue as the defending champion. Hopefully, this will happen by next year, as it wouldn't be ideal to see a prime Inoue fighting Casimero, who is no longer in his prime.

You are right that mate cause we all know that if a fighter defeating a super star fighter like for example in our defating donaire which is we are all know that donaire is very popular so inoue claim his new supporters.  and this time inoue is one of the popular boxer nowadays. And about casimero and inoue its better if next year their fight will come and let see who is the the real strong.
I would like Casimero to be the next on Inoue's list, just so they don't get the idea, it is also a good challenge because Inoue has to show that just as he was the best in his previous category, he should show that he is the best in this category. Personally, what Inoue has to do for now is to show that he is the best, start winning many victories and achieve a status of unconditional respect, even though the boxer has a very calm personality, and that is very difficult. in boxers, because they have to make the most of their full potential, and if over time they want to continue to move up in category, do so.


Nope, Inoue already has established a good name and he has been mentioned by several boxing legends and some active boxers as well. Whoever Inoue is facing it will always going to generate a good money because the boxing fans would come to see Inoue's performance.

 A boxer who have an excellent skill sets can be easily become popular that will attract boxing fans.

No doubt about it because right now the boxers in his weight division wanted to fight him either to steal the show or at least get some decent amount of money from their fight. His skills are rare and he is excellent when it comes to giving the fans the real fight they wanted to see in a boxing match. So he is gaining more fans after his good performances in his latest fight.


I cannot deny it, Inoue seems to me to be an exceptional boxer, I do not doubt that he can make a difference with anyone who puts him to fight, it does not matter if he is in a new category, he dominates the weight and can succeed again, in my team In boxing we always talk about the best boxers, Inoue catches our attention, some colleagues say that he is a genius of the sport, because he is not a person who praises himself, and he has enormous discipline, so they also say that He has that attitude because he is Japanese and we have all realized that the Japanese have great discipline, respect a lot and are honorable people who accept the designs of the sport and that makes them stronger.

Not only in boxing, if we remember the World Cup in Qatar, the Japanese gave a tremendous demonstration of being great in soccer, they had a great victory against the Germans and that means that they are people who follow their rules, and are preparing in a way that in the future they will be dominant in everything, at least in boxing it already shows.

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July 03, 2023, 06:36:25 PM
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Naoya Inoue had no quarrels whether he will fight inside Japan, in US or in any other country. It's just that organizers and Bob Arum prefer to make the fight happen in Inoue's backyard because they might have already compared the revenues to other places and it's much more suitable for Inoue to challenge Fulton in Japan as that will generate more profits for them.

Inoue can have this fight in a US soil but I guess it is already established that more money can be made in Japan where Inoue is already an icon rather than in US where Fulton is not yet considered in that level.

I agree with that. Based on his records, we can see that most of his fights have taken place in Japan. However, he has also fought outside his country with the same dominant results. So it seems that the revenue generated from his fights matters a lot. In the world of boxing, the higher weight divisions tend to be the money makers, while Inoue's current division may not yet generate as much financial interest.

Nope, Inoue already has established a good name and he has been mentioned by several boxing legends and some active boxers as well. Whoever Inoue is facing it will always going to generate a good money because the boxing fans would come to see Inoue's performance.

 A boxer who have an excellent skill sets can be easily become popular that will attract boxing fans.

It's the division mate and not Inoue himself because we have already established that fact already.

I mean, just try to imagine the super-bantamweight division if there's no Inoue, will it gain so much supporters in that division? Will the organizers benefit much from that division? I guess that's all a no because the boxers in that weight class aren't that famous compared to Inoue who have been making noise in the industry especially when he was at 118 division.

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Last edit: July 03, 2023, 08:14:42 PM by AmoreJaz
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Nope, Inoue already has established a good name and he has been mentioned by several boxing legends and some active boxers as well. Whoever Inoue is facing it will always going to generate a good money because the boxing fans would come to see Inoue's performance.

 A boxer who have an excellent skill sets can be easily become popular that will attract boxing fans.

No doubt about it because right now the boxers in his weight division wanted to fight him either to steal the show or at least get some decent amount of money from their fight. His skills are rare and he is excellent when it comes to giving the fans the real fight they wanted to see in a boxing match. So he is gaining more fans after his good performances in his latest fight.


of course, whoever is making a noise in the boxing world is the money maker when it comes to fights. but that is, if he will continuously to win fight after fight, and it seems, he's doing a great job for now. if he will beat fulton, he will find a bigger name to fight with, and that list is a very short one now.
if he won't stay much longer at 122, he will definitely go one weight division up, and that needs conditioning of his body. for now, let's see how he will perform with the fulton fight. it is fast approaching and other betting lines are more attractive to bet. winning method, inoue by ko is at 2.07x, whereas, inou by decision is at 3.05x at stake.

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July 03, 2023, 08:25:36 PM
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Nope, Inoue already has established a good name and he has been mentioned by several boxing legends and some active boxers as well. Whoever Inoue is facing it will always going to generate a good money because the boxing fans would come to see Inoue's performance.

 A boxer who have an excellent skill sets can be easily become popular that will attract boxing fans.

No doubt about it because right now the boxers in his weight division wanted to fight him either to steal the show or at least get some decent amount of money from their fight. His skills are rare and he is excellent when it comes to giving the fans the real fight they wanted to see in a boxing match. So he is gaining more fans after his good performances in his latest fight.


of course, whoever is making a noise in the boxing world is the money maker when it comes to fights. but that is, if he will continuously to win fight after fight, and it seems, he's doing a great job for now. if he will beat fulton, he will find a bigger name to fight with, and that list is a very short one now.
if he won't stay much longer at 122, he will definitely go one weight division up, and that needs conditioning of his body. for now, let's see how he will perform with the fulton fight. it is fast approaching and other betting lines are more attractive to bet. winning method, inoue by ko is at 2.07x, whereas, inou by decision is at 3.05x at stake.

Decent enough if you are a Inoue fan, and for sure there is additional adjustment once the actual schedule takes place
during the fight event we will see more options to bet.

I like to follow that opinion of yours, whoever making the noise will earn the hypes the more you win the more you can attract fans and promoters.

Same deal with Inoue after unifying all the belts from his last division, now he's attracting more interest
and possible to make more money fights.
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July 03, 2023, 09:04:03 PM
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Naoya Inoue had no quarrels whether he will fight inside Japan, in US or in any other country. It's just that organizers and Bob Arum prefer to make the fight happen in Inoue's backyard because they might have already compared the revenues to other places and it's much more suitable for Inoue to challenge Fulton in Japan as that will generate more profits for them.

Inoue can have this fight in a US soil but I guess it is already established that more money can be made in Japan where Inoue is already an icon rather than in US where Fulton is not yet considered in that level.

I agree with that. Based on his records, we can see that most of his fights have taken place in Japan. However, he has also fought outside his country with the same dominant results. So it seems that the revenue generated from his fights matters a lot. In the world of boxing, the higher weight divisions tend to be the money makers, while Inoue's current division may not yet generate as much financial interest.

Nope, Inoue already has established a good name and he has been mentioned by several boxing legends and some active boxers as well. Whoever Inoue is facing it will always going to generate a good money because the boxing fans would come to see Inoue's performance.

 A boxer who have an excellent skill sets can be easily become popular that will attract boxing fans.

I seriously think that it is not what we meant, we know that Inoue is already a big name in the industry and hence why money is following him wherever he go or what division he climb into. It's just that the organizers and even promoters wanted to make sure that they could maximize the profits that they could generate in this fight rather than taking a risks just because of the fact that Inoue is already a big name in the league and so on. Hence why they are taking this fight in Japan, just to make sure because it is a business.

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July 04, 2023, 11:06:23 AM
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Nope, Inoue already has established a good name and he has been mentioned by several boxing legends and some active boxers as well. Whoever Inoue is facing it will always going to generate a good money because the boxing fans would come to see Inoue's performance.

 A boxer who have an excellent skill sets can be easily become popular that will attract boxing fans.
While he could generate a good amount of money, it doesn't compare to what he could make in the higher division. We can take a cue from the experience of Pacquiao. He was already popular in the lower division, but he didn't earn the same kind of money until he moved up to the higher division.

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Nope, Inoue already has established a good name and he has been mentioned by several boxing legends and some active boxers as well. Whoever Inoue is facing it will always going to generate a good money because the boxing fans would come to see Inoue's performance.

 A boxer who have an excellent skill sets can be easily become popular that will attract boxing fans.
While he could generate a good amount of money, it doesn't compare to what he could make in the higher division. We can take a cue from the experience of Pacquiao. He was already popular in the lower division, but he didn't earn the same kind of money until he moved up to the higher division.
Of course, the higher the division the higher the paycheck. But it really depends on his body, on how far he can get his frame. Maybe 130 lbs might be huge for him though. Not sure if he can fight on that weight class, but let's see.

Even though that Manny has laid down the blue print, Pacquiao is very different though, I mean his genetics might have been breed for sports not just boxing. But his frame, his legs and that calves which generates power are one of the key for Manny's success and I doubt that anyone can duplicate it.

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July 04, 2023, 02:05:16 PM
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Yes, at that time, the odds are really not in favor of Casimero because his weight is really dragging him down and making him inactive in the industry because of the same problem and just like what happened when he got stripped before he fought Butler, that might happen too if his fight with Inoue have been restored. But that just cannot be as after Covid subsided, another variant hit them again and made the government of Japan to close their borders to all foreign people.
Many events occurred during that time that led to Casimero losing his belt. However, we can still experience the excitement we've been missing in the bantamweight division if Inoue becomes a champion again and Casimero becomes a contender, as they are now in the same super bantamweight division. Let's hope this fight materializes, as it will undoubtedly satisfy the fans who have been eagerly awaiting this highly anticipated matchup.
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Nope, Inoue already has established a good name and he has been mentioned by several boxing legends and some active boxers as well. Whoever Inoue is facing it will always going to generate a good money because the boxing fans would come to see Inoue's performance.

 A boxer who have an excellent skill sets can be easily become popular that will attract boxing fans.
While he could generate a good amount of money, it doesn't compare to what he could make in the higher division. We can take a cue from the experience of Pacquiao. He was already popular in the lower division, but he didn't earn the same kind of money until he moved up to the higher division.
Of course, the higher the division the higher the paycheck. But it really depends on his body, on how far he can get his frame. Maybe 130 lbs might be huge for him though. Not sure if he can fight on that weight class, but let's see.

Even though that Manny has laid down the blue print, Pacquiao is very different though, I mean his genetics might have been breed for sports not just boxing. But his frame, his legs and that calves which generates power are one of the key for Manny's success and I doubt that anyone can duplicate it.

Inoue does have a strong spine that can carry weight. It just needs weeks to months to get used to it as long as it's gradual in adding weight, it will not be a problem for him. The fight schedule gave him enough to prepare.

Het gets a title shot in this division and then claims it. He then can move to the higher when no one challenges him after it. This is what he is after I think, he is already a top p4p fighter now he needs to claim bets in more divisions.


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Yes, at that time, the odds are really not in favor of Casimero because his weight is really dragging him down and making him inactive in the industry because of the same problem and just like what happened when he got stripped before he fought Butler, that might happen too if his fight with Inoue have been restored. But that just cannot be as after Covid subsided, another variant hit them again and made the government of Japan to close their borders to all foreign people.
Many events occurred during that time that led to Casimero losing his belt. However, we can still experience the excitement we've been missing in the bantamweight division if Inoue becomes a champion again and Casimero becomes a contender, as they are now in the same super bantamweight division. Let's hope this fight materializes, as it will undoubtedly satisfy the fans who have been eagerly awaiting this highly anticipated matchup.

It was a well deserve wait if ever these two great fighters will cross path again.

Though it's more on speculative expectations as both are not having a belt yet, it's possible for Inoue as this upcoming event
is giving him this opportunity to grab Fulton's belt.

If in case he will win and Casimero will continue his winning stats, we might see them meeting in the same ring as long as Inoue
choose to stay in this current division.
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July 05, 2023, 12:06:13 PM
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If in case he will win and Casimero will continue his winning stats, we might see them meeting in the same ring as long as Inoue
choose to stay in this current division.

f Inoue is also willing to fight Casimero, it would be intriguing, considering that Inoue had a chance to face Casimero in the bantamweight division but chose not to pursue it. Now that they will meet in the super bantamweight division, hopefully Casimero will become a mandatory challenger, leaving Inoue with no excuses to avoid fighting him.

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If in case he will win and Casimero will continue his winning stats, we might see them meeting in the same ring as long as Inoue
choose to stay in this current division.

f Inoue is also willing to fight Casimero, it would be intriguing, considering that Inoue had a chance to face Casimero in the bantamweight division but chose not to pursue it. Now that they will meet in the super bantamweight division, hopefully Casimero will become a mandatory challenger, leaving Inoue with no excuses to avoid fighting him.

Why don't we just focus on Inoue's upcoming fight? Whether we like it or not, it seems unlikely for them to face each other if it's not something desired by Inoue's camp. Inoue is incredibly fortunate with his rise, and if he wins this fight, he can proceed to a unification fight or move up in weight class again.

There is a possibility that Casimero may even retire without proving himself against Inoue. Perhaps Inoue's camp is also afraid that Casimero might have a lucky shot and diminish Inoue's fame.
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July 05, 2023, 01:13:43 PM
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Why don't we just focus on Inoue's upcoming fight? Whether we like it or not, it seems unlikely for them to face each other if it's not something desired by Inoue's camp. Inoue is incredibly fortunate with his rise, and if he wins this fight, he can proceed to a unification fight or move up in weight class again.
Marlon Tapales. He is just waiting and I think he is preparing very hard too because whoever wins in this match will be up against him. If it's Inoue then Casimero should be happy that he will be facing a countrymen. If it's Fulton, then he might also have a chance if the boxing authorities mandate Inoue to fight one match before he could fight back the winner of Fulton against Tapales. (in case that happens)
I have read a lot of statements from Fulton and he said the rescheduling gave him more time to think and it adds more training and sparring time for him that will help him be fully prepared against Inoue. It's obvious that he is not underestimating him and instead, he is trying to be better to show how different their weight class is than where Inoue came from. We will definitely witness a good fight on July 25.

There is a possibility that Casimero may even retire without proving himself against Inoue. Perhaps Inoue's camp is also afraid that Casimero might have a lucky shot and diminish Inoue's fame.
Possibly. The way Casimero fight is different, more like a brawler, and his punch is not something a boxer could take when he ain't ready.

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If in case he will win and Casimero will continue his winning stats, we might see them meeting in the same ring as long as Inoue
choose to stay in this current division.

f Inoue is also willing to fight Casimero, it would be intriguing, considering that Inoue had a chance to face Casimero in the bantamweight division but chose not to pursue it. Now that they will meet in the super bantamweight division, hopefully Casimero will become a mandatory challenger, leaving Inoue with no excuses to avoid fighting him.

Let's just hope that Inoue will stay in the super-bantamweight division for a little bit longer so that him and Casimero will meet and dance in the same ring because considering that Inoue will be successful in his upcoming fight with Stephen Fulton, there is a huge chance that he will go directly at Marlon Tapales to unify all the belts as long as he will not be mandated by the WBC to defend his belts against Casimero or anybody who holds the title as the challenger.

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Possibly. The way Casimero fight is different, more like a brawler, and his punch is not something a boxer could take when he ain't ready.

Perhaps Inoue has come to realize that Casimero is a highly dangerous fighter. This realization may have occurred when Casimero defeated Zolani Tete, who was considered a strong challenger for Inoue due to his height and reach advantage. However, Casimero found a way to effectively target Tete's body, which ultimately led to an early knockout.

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July 06, 2023, 02:02:06 AM
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Possibly. The way Casimero fight is different, more like a brawler, and his punch is not something a boxer could take when he ain't ready.

Perhaps Inoue has come to realize that Casimero is a highly dangerous fighter. This realization may have occurred when Casimero defeated Zolani Tete, who was considered a strong challenger for Inoue due to his height and reach advantage. However, Casimero found a way to effectively target Tete's body, which ultimately led to an early knockout.

Casimero is one of the silent but dangerous fighter in the world of boxing. He has the ability to knocking down his opponent in the early rounds and that is who he is, The quadro alas casimero. And for sure inoue must be alert if he us the opponent of casimero because casimero can take those highly dagame from his opponent. But for sure the monster inoue will not be an easy one because we all know that Inoue is the best. So this is a good fight.
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