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[cryptofrka]

A little dizzy Would you give me a hint on how to answer to question number nine?

You need to write down 11 players that you think will start the game for Chelsea against Tottenham.
The point will be given to the player that gets more names correct.

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We calculated the results this morning, please recheck everything. It is the 1st round and we aren't in optimal working conditions this week
Trofo will upload the tables and post the next round of fixtures in the afternoon.

Some explanations:
- if the answer is marked yellow, it means that both opponents have the answer that is equal and that it is a draw
- some players have incorrect answers marked as green, and some players correct answers marked as yellow. That is because the duels are head to head and depend only on 2 players when calculated - so sometimes if the answer is not the best one, it can still win a point.

Free bets:
Points for the free bets are calculated differently (per Division). This means that for example answer 'Benfica' to question 6 gives a point to anybody who answered like that, and all other answers are incorrect, irrelevant of the h2h duel.

Freebet winners for this round are:
Division 2 - vd309 (20$)
Division 3 - mv1986 (10$)
Division 1 - Harkorede and cls63 both have 7 points. In the next round whoever gets more will win a 30$ freebet.

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MAAManda - Jinetics1111 ended up as 0-7. MAAManda did not submit answers and has received his 1st warning, the result will be written as 0-3 and not 0-7.

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[slackovic]

A little dizzy Would you give me a hint on how to answer to question number nine?

You need to write down 11 players that you think will start the game for Chelsea against Tottenham.
The point will be given to the player that gets more names correct.

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This time it's much easier to understand what a H2H question means. For the ninth question, if you guess more players in the starting 11 than your opponent from this week, you get a point and your opponent doesn't. I think that H2H questions are more appropriate for the competition since every week each of us is competing against a certain user, not against everyone else.

[slaman29]

Guys, can I just say, amazing questions. I don't even know how to answer without Googleing for a couple of them lol.

And phew about winning, GG to jayce!

Seeing how many of me and jayce later questions aligned....I just thought about something, reading up about the comments about revealing picks.

Let's say you have no time that week to research anything and just need 1 point to win the final day. Or you know 1 sport really well and know your opponent does not.

Then you can copy every single answer for draw, or copy every single answer except the sport you know the best.

Another case: you notice the other guy answered 1 question wrong. Like the Napoli pick I made, automatically wrong. Then same , copy all the answers except in that question he answered wrong.

Isn't that one way to be "game" this to take advantage or seeing answers?

I don't even have time to do that, but I now sort of agree with others about revealing picks, it could put the guy who answers first at disadvantage.

[cryptofrka]

Guys, can I just say, amazing questions. I don't even know how to answer without Googleing for a couple of them lol.

And phew about winning, GG to jayce!

Seeing how many of me and jayce later questions aligned....I just thought about something, reading up about the comments about revealing picks.

Let's say you have no time that week to research anything and just need 1 point to win the final day. Or you know 1 sport really well and know your opponent does not.

Then you can copy every single answer for draw, or copy every single answer except the sport you know the best.

Another case: you notice the other guy answered 1 question wrong. Like the Napoli pick I made, automatically wrong. Then same , copy all the answers except in that question he answered wrong.

Isn't that one way to be "game" this to take advantage or seeing answers?

I don't even have time to do that, but I now sort of agree with others about revealing picks, it could put the guy who answers first at disadvantage.

We're glad you like the questions

The answers to the questions are private - you cannot see what your opponent answered so you cannot copy it. We make it visible only after submissions are over.
For example - we have already started to receive answers for Round 2 questions - but they are hidden for you.

[Trofo]

Ok guys, here comes the results from Round 1 as well as schedule for round 2 and updated tables. Doing this from holiday on small ultrabook so if I messed something, don't worry it will be fixed

Division 1




Division 2




Division 3

[mv1986]

Hi guys,

question no. 7 says:

7. Atletico Madrid was always known for their granite defense but this season is a bit different and we can see them conceding more than usual. They are hosting a good Ath. Bilbao team, will both teams score in this game?

My answer was "NO", they are not going to score both in this game, which was correct. The game ended 1-0 for Atletico. How is that answer wrong

There is nothing to worry about mate,

Probably a mistake, don't read to much into it just yet, I'm Trofo and Cryptofrka will take more than twice to go through the questions and every answers before the final table and scores are updated.

Hey no no, I wasn't worrying, just surprised that nobody brought it up yet. So no worries!

Now I would like to ask a question and make a suggestion: in the table for Division 3, for example, Jinetics1111 now leads with a SF : SA = 7 : 0 score. I bring this up now because I could also hope for MAAManda to now show up again and I take home a bunch of points as well. I assume that when people have equal H2H points, the SF : SA score will be relevant.

For the person who did submit answers, it is of course right to get the 3 points. But the SF : SA statistics get totally screwed and don't reflect a realistic result anymore. Wouldn't it make more sense if instead of SF : SA , you put down the freebet points? Those are actually the number of answers somebody really got right. But if the SF : SA statistics decide in the end, the bottom line is that if you take this day as an example, a play does not only get the 3 points but also points on top for even wrong answers. If you think about a theoretical H2H situation between Jinetics1111 and me, he literally receives 2 points for the division for exactly the same wrong answers that I gave. That doesn't really make sense.

In soccer leagues it is usually a 2:0 and 3 points when one team breaks the rules or doesn't show up. 3 points, again, are totally correct, and relatively, the 2:0 is also fine, but when you look at the standings in the table, wouldn't you want the person with the most correct answers and the most points be at the top in the end?

After all I don't care that much but since you guys said that you want to keep this competition running for several seasons to come, I think it is at least worth to think about. Perhaps you could add freebet points as a column and make that one the decisive statistic instead of "SD" if two people have the same number of points. Even though someone can still earn easy 3 points when the opponent doesn't show up, but there is still more weight on getting your answers right than just submitting them and get points for wrong answers as well when the opponent doesn't show up.

This is not all too important for Division 3 as there is not as much on the line, but imagine two guys are equal in points in Division 1 and rank 1 submitted less correct answers than rank 2, but still got points because two times an opponent didn't show up.

Hope you get my point here and I hope I got the rules right so this makes sense.

Cheers!

[cryptofrka]

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Hey there, yes, we agree. Trofo could not change it from the hotel, but we already commented it here:

MAAManda - Jinetics1111 ended up as 0-7. MAAManda did not submit answers and has received his 1st warning, the result will be written as 0-3 and not 0-7.

It will be the default football forfeit result, so 3-0.

[mv1986]

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Hey there, yes, we agree. Trofo could not change it from the hotel, but we already commented it here:

MAAManda - Jinetics1111 ended up as 0-7. MAAManda did not submit answers and has received his 1st warning, the result will be written as 0-3 and not 0-7.

It will be the default football forfeit result, so 3-0.

Ah ok I overlooked that! This certainly makes it a fairer competition.

Looking forward to the next round

[Trofo]

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Hey there, yes, we agree. Trofo could not change it from the hotel, but we already commented it here:

MAAManda - Jinetics1111 ended up as 0-7. MAAManda did not submit answers and has received his 1st warning, the result will be written as 0-3 and not 0-7.

It will be the default football forfeit result, so 3-0.

I already changed it as it can be seen from the results. Problem is I took a screen shot of the table before making that change. It will be counted as 3:0. If I forget to put new table now, it will be seen on next week table anyway.

[buwaytress]

Cool questions indeed... well done guys! there look so deceptively simple yet are as tricky as ever. I'll probably put my picks in later or tomorrow (hopefully no more free dumb answers as in Round 1 haha).

I didn't expect to see a "goal difference" so that makes it look pretty special, heh heh. As I've said before, I don't think there's any advantage/disadvantage in making answers visible, but... glad it's not fixed.

MAAManda is active in other threads, I actually remember seeing a post from Bundesliga or Ligue 1 so I pinged him a DM. Naughty!

[Trofo]

MAAManda is active in other threads, I actually remember seeing a post from Bundesliga or Ligue 1 so I pinged him a DM. Naughty!

I already sent him a PM after he missed round one in the same bunch as I notified other 2 people that forgot. They acted immediately and entered their answers for the remaining questions while MAAManda did not even answer my PM. Doesn't really matter, everyone gets 3 strikes and after that it is bye, bye for good.

This sort of competition would really suffer if somebody chooses rounds when he participates so we have to be firm and exclude players like that soonest possible. We are not counting late submissions as strike, unless it becomes a pattern for somebody.

[mv1986]

MAAManda is active in other threads, I actually remember seeing a post from Bundesliga or Ligue 1 so I pinged him a DM. Naughty!

I already sent him a PM after he missed round one in the same bunch as I notified other 2 people that forgot. They acted immediately and entered their answers for the remaining questions while MAAManda did not even answer my PM. Doesn't really matter, everyone gets 3 strikes and after that it is bye, bye for good.

This sort of competition would really suffer if somebody chooses rounds when he participates so we have to be firm and exclude players like that soonest possible. We are not counting late submissions as strike, unless it becomes a pattern for somebody.

You do put quite some effort into the questions, respect! You also hit the sweet spots in terms of getting people to think "damn it, it could be either one" and that is not easy for those writing the questions.

Already submitted my answers and I can tell you this is not a two-minute thing Not that I want to complain, it just shows that we also need to put some thought into our choices.

Guys have fun coming up with the starting squad for Chelsea. I just realized how big of a squad they have and how much Graham Potter changes it up from game to game. That's almost a lottery unless you have Graham Potter's phone number and are a good friend of him!

Really looking forward to the outcomes of this round.

[Trofo]

Already submitted my answers and I can tell you this is not a two-minute thing Not that I want to complain, it just shows that we also need to put some thought into our choices.

Guys have fun coming up with the starting squad for Chelsea. I just realized how big of a squad they have and how much Graham Potter changes it up from game to game. That's almost a lottery unless you have Graham Potter's phone number and are a good friend of him!

You need 2 minutes to do it if you are a sports know it all or if you just want to do the bare minimum. Of course you need more time if you plan on researching some stuff. That is actually one of our goals, to make you guys more knowledgeable about sport and maybe just maybe make you like them even more.

[Jinetics1111]

Hey Gents

Been pretty fun so far, hope you all had a great weekend.

Looking for ward to taking down Trofo this week 

[slackovic]

Uh... This week will be hard as I'm facing the last week best player in the division 2. I hope that vd309 won't give 8 correct answers again. Well... Good luck to all of us. And indeed the questions are great!

[jayce]

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And phew about winning, GG to jayce!
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GG to you too, slaman29!

Before this competition, the only tennis men players I knew are Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic. Fun yet challenging. Great job by Cro2 team, they able to get me learn other sports besides football and basketball. Just sent the answer for round #2 and look forward to see the result against a big name LFC_Bitcoin.

Anw enjoy your holiday Trofo.

A little dizzy Would you give me a hint on how to answer to question number nine?

It's tricky indeed. I had to check the game history in their last 5 matches.

[Igebotz]

CasperBDG You should consider yourself lucky because the outcome might have been different if I had entered my Tuesday questions. That is not to imply that you don't deserve the victory, but you were already at a handicap of +3 when I began;

Jeremypwr LET'S DO THIS I'm excited about it because we're both hoping for our first victory. Do the upcoming fixtures have a certain day and time? I want to avoid bad luck this time, so I'll set up a reminder. Cro2 team enjoy your vacations.

[Slissy]

Great with a good start with 3 points!

I watched the NBA All stars game and it was very entertaining.. It was only D fox who didn't get a point in the game.

New week with new questions so this will be exciting. I have read through them and it will be difficult again.
I'll probably have to google a bit before I give my answer😄

LTU_btc this will not be an easy match so I wish you good luck 😃

[cryptofrka]

CasperBDG You should consider yourself lucky because the outcome might have been different if I had entered my Tuesday questions. That is not to imply that you don't deserve the victory, but you were already at a handicap of +3 when I began;

Jeremypwr LET'S DO THIS I'm excited about it because we're both hoping for our first victory. Do the upcoming fixtures have a certain day and time? I want to avoid bad luck this time, so I'll set up a reminder. Cro2 team enjoy your vacations.

You can always find the deadline for submitting the form in the 3rd post of the thread.
Cutoff is before the CL games, it will vary based on the sports we find each week.

I watched the NBA All stars game and it was very entertaining.. It was only D fox who didn't get a point in the game.

He played like 10 min, right? Amazing that he didn't even shoot in such an open game.

[Trofo]

Looking for ward to taking down Trofo this week  

I guess you can dream about it but we both know you don't have a chance   A bit more realistic I just put my picks in and I feel a bit more confident about it than in first round. That being said I am only sure I will be a tougher job then the one you had in round 1.

Love the banter so far, seems like H2H format was a good decision, it does make it much more personal. Liverpool - Real should be the beauty of CL games this week, can't wait for that one.