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[cryptofrka]

Wow, the NBA game went in an unexpected direction

I will update the spreadsheet later in the afternoon, there's a lot to check.
Seems that the correct order is Tatum, Brown, Giannis, Horford, Brogdon (Horford in front of Brogdon because he played less minutes).

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[buwaytress]

Based on cryptofrka's post (and it looks right to me), I guess I won the NBA question... 2 points for me as got 4 right but all in wrong positions, 1.5 for Harko, but let's see if the numbers add up. I did sense Giannis wouldn't get the top score as he was injured and didn't play the previous game. Wonder who got the most points from this tough question... I see famosos and slam got Tatum and Brown spot on!

On the question, I selected 3 BTTS matches. I had expected that some games might result in a BTTS, but they did not. The matches in the quarter finals have ended. In this question I choose Alcaraz and Rublev meet in the semi-finals then Alcaraz will win. But Rublev was knocked out in the 1/8-Finals by Sinner. Hopefully Alcaraz will enter the final and win.

I went totally safe here. Alcaraz Medvedev, as long as they meet in the final, I should win that round, sorry Harko

[darxiaomi]

Really unpredictable result on NBA game, Celtics wipe out Bucks, and Giannis doesnt scores so much points.

Well we are nearby to the comeback of the football leagues and we are gonna know if Ten Hag surprises us or anyone of us make a perfect 11/11 starting line up.

In other things, guys i see Direwolf answers are now up, so you can show mines    i dont remember what i put i some questions.

[Harkorede]

Based on cryptofrka's post (and it looks right to me), I guess I won the NBA question... 2 points for me as got 4 right but all in wrong positions, 1.5 for Harko, but let's see if the numbers add up. I did sense Giannis wouldn't get the top score as he was injured and didn't play the previous game. Wonder who got the most points from this tough question... I see famosos and slam got Tatum and Brown spot on!

I'm sure you're familiar with the phrase "glitch in the matrix" ? That's what this is, Boston Celtics lost to Washington Wizards a night before looking very mediocre, and Milwaukee Bucks putting up huge numbers in their of fixture, especially Jrue Holiday with 50 points and Giannis with a triple double, just one night after it was the complete opposite happening 🤦🏾‍♂️

[cryptofrka]

The spreadsheet has been updated.

The basketball question was particularly difficult to check, so we'd appreciate if you all would check it for yourself and your opponent as well.
The number of points won for that question can be seen in column O and will be deleted in a few days and replaced by '1' for the 4 players that will receive a point here in their race for the freebet.
Please let us know if you find any mistakes.

I've also marked the tennis questions that are incorrect.
If you have Sinner and Alcaraz in the final and it is marked as incorrect, it is not a mistake.
They are both still in the draw but are playing their semifinal against each other, so whatever the outcome your answer will be wrong.

For tennis - you can easily check the draws before submitting the answers. It was known that they cannot play each other in the final from last week.

[Slissy]

Wow, the NBA game went in an unexpected direction

I will update the spreadsheet later in the afternoon, there's a lot to check.
Seems that the correct order is Tatum, Brown, Giannis, Horford, Brogdon (Horford in front of Brogdon because he played less minutes).

When I look at the flashscore site, the order is like this, Tatum, Brown, Giannis,, Brogdon, Horford..

https://ibb.co/r5yX7C5

[Igebotz]

I've also marked the tennis questions that are incorrect.
If you have Sinner and Alcaraz in the final and it is marked as incorrect, it is not a mistake.
They are both still in the draw but are playing their semifinal against each other, so whatever the outcome your answer will be wrong.

For tennis - you can easily check the draws before submitting the answers. It was known that they cannot play each other in the final from last week.

Yes, I presume they didn't check the schedule bracket before entering their picks; maybe, this will serve as a heads-up for next tennis question.

Sorry mate you got that one as invalid answer since you didn't follow the format properly. @arallmuus

When I look at the flashscore site, the order is like this, Tatum, Brown, Giannis,, Brogdon, Horford..

https://ibb.co/r5yX7C5

Oh not again! ......

[cryptofrka]

When I look at the flashscore site, the order is like this, Tatum, Brown, Giannis,, Brogdon, Horford..
https://ibb.co/r5yX7C5

Yeah, they probably use assists or +- ratio as a differentiator.
In our case it makes more sense to rate a player who scored equal number of points in less minutes as the better one in this case.

We are taking note of all these mini issues with the questions and such things won't be repeated once we get in full groove.

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Looking forward to the cup, fellas? We're really excited about it, we feel the format will be great. It starts next week.

[arallmuus]

Sorry mate you got that one as invalid answer since you didn't follow the format properly. @arallmuus

It is what it is mate. No worry, its my fault as I should have paid more attention to the question  . Well but there is a chance that Alcaraz might not make it to the final so fingers cross from me

Looking forward to the cup, fellas? We're really excited about it, we feel the format will be great. It starts next week.

Really excited, I might have better luck in the cup instead of regular league !

Anyway, I noticed that I am tied (yellow colored mark) with @igebotz on #4 question so does that mean both of us get 1 point on that question or both of us is not getting any point?

[cryptofrka]

Anyway, I noticed that I am tied (yellow colored mark) with @igebotz on #4 question so does that mean both of us get 1 point on that question or both of us is not getting any point?

It's actually the same to you, but we count only the green ones in H2H duels - meaning that it won't be counted.

[joker_josue]

When I look at the flashscore site, the order is like this, Tatum, Brown, Giannis,, Brogdon, Horford..
https://ibb.co/r5yX7C5

Yeah, they probably use assists or +- ratio as a differentiator.
In our case it makes more sense to rate a player who scored equal number of points in less minutes as the better one in this case.

This really became a question, that despite all saying the same names, it was really a question of order in the choice.

I didn't check all the players, but can you tell if someone got it right in all players/positions?

[Trofo]

I didn't check all the players, but can you tell if someone got it right in all players/positions?

It is really easy to check, you have a column q4 points and there is 3 people with 3 correct which is highest for this question. So to answer your question, nobody got all correct.

[joker_josue]

I didn't check all the players, but can you tell if someone got it right in all players/positions?

It is really easy to check, you have a column q4 points and there is 3 people with 3 correct which is highest for this question. So to answer your question, nobody got all correct.

I forgot to look at that column! Thanks for the reminder.

It wasn't really easy to get 100% right on this question, because global averages don't automatically mean equal in a specific game.
This question was interesting, I didn't find it a difficult question to answer, but at the same time a challenging and difficult question to get right.

[Slissy]

When I look at the flashscore site, the order is like this, Tatum, Brown, Giannis,, Brogdon, Horford..
https://ibb.co/r5yX7C5

Yeah, they probably use assists or +- ratio as a differentiator.
In our case it makes more sense to rate a player who scored equal number of points in less minutes as the better one in this case.

We are taking note of all these mini issues with the questions and such things won't be repeated once we get in full groove.

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Looking forward to the cup, fellas? We're really excited about it, we feel the format will be great. It starts next week.

where do you see the official points order? But I just think it was strange since you, as an organizer, have Horford in fourth place. Then you decide on the rule about playing time after the match is over 😁 We must have such rules clear before the match starts😂 (And yes, I have Brogdon in fourth place) 😁😂

I'm still happy with the draw against my opponent, but also have to question how you came to that conclusion 😁

[notblox1]

Looking forward to the cup, fellas? We're really excited about it, we feel the format will be great. It starts next week.

Yes I am but please no more questions about players and scored points, it created a lot of confusion and it needs lot of work for answering and checking.
Better try to think of questions that are simple with answers that can be verified from many sources.
I am saying this for one more reason, because I am losing this round so far, and my hope is on tennis final  
Pray for me.

[Ulven]

Looking forward to the cup, fellas? We're really excited about it, we feel the format will be great. It starts next week.

Yes I am but please no more questions about players and scored points, it created a lot of confusion and it needs lot of work for answering and checking.
Better try to think of questions that are simple with answers that can be verified from many sources.
I am saying this for one more reason, because I am losing this round so far, and my hope is on tennis final  
Pray for me.

Good luck with the tennis final, I hope your favorite player wins!
Fortunately, I am still tied with my opponent despite losing in the tennis game. I am really lazy and have no offensive skills in tennis, so my opponent can win through this gap. I hope to score more points in the upcoming games. Good luck to everyone.

[cryptofrka]

where do you see the official points order? But I just think it was strange since you, as an organizer, have Horford in fourth place. Then you decide on the rule about playing time after the match is over 😁 We must have such rules clear before the match starts😂 (And yes, I have Brogdon in fourth place) 😁😂

I'm still happy with the draw against my opponent, but also have to question how you came to that conclusion 😁

Believe me, that's the first thing I checked - if the decision will influence Trofo's or my outcome.
It does not, because even if we switch Horford and Brogdon I get 2.5 points instead of 3 (I have Holiday in 4th, not Horford) and still win my h2h duel against entebah. Trofo is free in this round so his picks are irrelevant.

I agree that such rules should be more strictly defined, and they will be. It's an expansive contest to run, we're finding our feet a bit here as well.

To answer how the grading was done - well, if you play less minutes and score the same points, it's logical that you should be ahead, no? You actually did perform better in that category against the guy with the same amount of points.
It is irrelevant how many assists you have (or whatever is the differentiator on your screenshot - maybe even alphabetical?) - assists are heavily dependable on players position for example and alphabetical would be plain stupid.

I'd never risk my forum reputation by making myself win a question in a competition I'm running for Sportsbet, that'd be a really, really stupid thing to do

Yes I am but please no more questions about players and scored points, it created a lot of confusion and it needs lot of work for answering and checking.
Better try to think of questions that are simple with answers that can be verified from many sources.

Most of the questions are like that - but we have to try some alternatives as well - otherwise we risk that the same pattern of questions repeats.
We also have to implement some h2h questions - and these are hard when using standard format.

Also, we said at the beginning that to be the best, some effort will have to be done. To be at the top in Div1, you need some time to answer questions and if you are ok with being in Div2 - you can try guessing some that you don't feel like researching.

[Igebotz]

Sorry mate you got that one as invalid answer since you didn't follow the format properly. @arallmuus

It is what it is mate. No worry, its my fault as I should have paid more attention to the question  . Well but there is a chance that Alcaraz might not make it to the final so fingers cross from me

It's difficult to say I'm not following the tennis tournament. I just did some research on all of the players and picked the best one, and what made you think Alcaraz would not make it to the final?

This is another H2H question; we might both end up with nothing after all of our efforts... I wish the h2h was between you and me rather than the entire pool, but the rules are the rules.

Yes I am but please no more questions about players and scored points, it created a lot of confusion and it needs lot of work for answering and checking.
Better try to think of questions that are simple with answers that can be verified from many sources.

This falls into the same category as football possession questions, which can be extremely difficult and causes confusion. I don't like these questions either, it cost me a point last GW, but these little shaky questions makes it more competitive. Lol

[Slissy]

where do you see the official points order? But I just think it was strange since you, as an organizer, have Horford in fourth place. Then you decide on the rule about playing time after the match is over 😁 We must have such rules clear before the match starts😂 (And yes, I have Brogdon in fourth place) 😁😂

I'm still happy with the draw against my opponent, but also have to question how you came to that conclusion 😁

Believe me, that's the first thing I checked - if the decision will influence Trofo's or my outcome.
It does not, because even if we switch Horford and Brogdon I get 2.5 points instead of 3 (I have Holiday in 4th, not Horford) and still win my h2h duel against entebah. Trofo is free in this round so his picks are irrelevant.

I agree that such rules should be more strictly defined, and they will be. It's an expansive contest to run, we're finding our feet a bit here as well.

To answer how the grading was done - well, if you play less minutes and score the same points, it's logical that you should be ahead, no? You actually did perform better in that category against the guy with the same amount of points.
It is irrelevant how many assists you have (or whatever is the differentiator on your screenshot - maybe even alphabetical?) - assists are heavily dependable on players position for example and alphabetical would be plain stupid.

I'd never risk my forum reputation by making myself win a question in a competition I'm running for Sportsbet, that'd be a really, really stupid thing to do

Yes I am but please no more questions about players and scored points, it created a lot of confusion and it needs lot of work for answering and checking.
Better try to think of questions that are simple with answers that can be verified from many sources.

Most of the questions are like that - but we have to try some alternatives as well - otherwise we risk that the same pattern of questions repeats.
We also have to implement some h2h questions - and these are hard when using standard format.

Also, we said at the beginning that to be the best, some effort will have to be done. To be at the top in Div1, you need some time to answer questions and if you are ok with being in Div2 - you can try guessing some that you don't feel like researching.

you guys are doing an amazing job and keep it up😁 It was just an example of what can happen when we can't confirm things officially😁
I'm still happy that I managed a draw 😃

Now Medvedev is ready for the final, so now I hope that Alcaraz will also make it 😁

[Trofo]

where do you see the official points order? But I just think it was strange since you, as an organizer, have Horford in fourth place. Then you decide on the rule about playing time after the match is over 😁 We must have such rules clear before the match starts😂 (And yes, I have Brogdon in fourth place) 😁😂

Now I have a question for you. By you I mean all the players not just Slissy  

You have all answered basketball question and not one of you anticipated this problem and told us about the fact that we need some sort of tie breaker before the game ended.

There is 2 of us and 37 of you. Don't get me wrong, it is our mistake and our job but it is really difficult to anticipate all possible outcomes of all posible questions and we don't want to ask just generic ones or test only football knowledge.

If anything looks unclear or you anticipate a problem, let us know and we will be more than happy if we can react before event from problematic questions starts.

We are also working on more rules and stricter tests to eliminate situations such as this one as much as possible.