Without money, does it still qualify as gambling?

[mak013]

Yes, it is so. When you just watching some match - you don`t lose anything. You can be just become disappointed with the result. But when you can lose something - you feel much more emotions from the match/fight.
And your predictions and bets become more accurate when you feel responsibility for the result.

Disappointment is sure to get when gamblers lose some money but when gamblers bet with pleasure and responsibility they don't regret what they have lost because of betting and precisely from that loss they can learn and learn to make every prediction correctly and learn to control themselves so that they are more be responsible and can accept any risk when betting.
Emotions have made many gamblers lose things and even make it difficult to be able to make correct betting predictions.
By the way, have you ever had a number of free spins and managed to win tens of dollars but had to deposit more than what you got to make a withdrawal and when you made a deposit you had to bet but instead lost everything because of curiosity when playing using free spins you can get the win.

In my opinion without your own responsibility you can`t learn to predict. You can train, but the price of such predictions is zero. I think that until you don`t ready to risk your money - you can`t advice someone to risk.
Yes, i lost my money with free spins, and i`m sure that it is the main purpose of such bonuses - make the gambler spend his own money to get the profit from the free spins.

[piebeyb]

Gambling is something that has to do with staking money for a chance to participate in a gambling game but in the situation addressed by the OP, we can consider it to be gambling because it's a promotion provided by super sport and gambling website in order to have more customers on their platform. It's just like giving back to the community.

Gambling does not have to use money, on this site you may not use money to bet but bet to get points or use the points themselves, besides guessing or betting to get results it is already called gambling, even without having to spend any money, but this promotion is great already there must be sponsors in it who fund to attract many users to play and bet as well as gamble on this site.

I haven't tested it but beginners should test this to feel their skills and also add to the experience of this site, it's a good idea before betting on sports betting using real money, I think this site is intended for training for new users to feel their ability to predict, analyze their bets in betting sports

[CryptSafe]

Yes, it is so. When you just watching some match - you don`t lose anything. You can be just become disappointed with the result. But when you can lose something - you feel much more emotions from the match/fight.
And your predictions and bets become more accurate when you feel responsibility for the result.

Disappointment is sure to get when gamblers lose some money but when gamblers bet with pleasure and responsibility they don't regret what they have lost because of betting and precisely from that loss they can learn and learn to make every prediction correctly and learn to control themselves so that they are more be responsible and can accept any risk when betting.
Emotions have made many gamblers lose things and even make it difficult to be able to make correct betting predictions.
By the way, have you ever had a number of free spins and managed to win tens of dollars but had to deposit more than what you got to make a withdrawal and when you made a deposit you had to bet but instead lost everything because of curiosity when playing using free spins you can get the win.

In my opinion without your own responsibility you can`t learn to predict. You can train, but the price of such predictions is zero. I think that until you don`t ready to risk your money - you can`t advice someone to risk.
Yes, i lost my money with free spins, and i`m sure that it is the main purpose of such bonuses - make the gambler spend his own money to get the profit from the free spins.

There is no better teacher than self experience. You can not teach someone without you knowing that thing through experience. If you must predict, you must have experience in predicting game or otherwise, so as to be able to predict for others. So therefore, you must have spent your resources to learning how to predict which means it is not free.

When betting, it is advised to use spare cash you can afford to loose same advise is applicable herein on this platform.  So if you loose funds in the course of betting it would not bother you much because of the fact that the funds are spare Cash and nothing to worry about.
That's why it is always advised to gamble responsibly.

[paxmao]

Gambling can be played in a variety of ways. You see, would it class as work if you are not paid in money? Does it class as a purchase if you decide to pay exchanging something? My take is that it is as long as you put there something that has value, from your own time, reputation and even intangibles... or works of art or anything. Time is money as they say.

[jostorres]

As long as there's a risk involved and it is some kind of prediction, win or lose type of games, then I would always consider it as a form of gambling.
Sometimes even if it's not directly money as long as it have a value and it is being risk then yes it is gambling.

What do you consider the risk to be about if there is no money at stake? Every single game is a win-or-lose type of game, but not every game in the world is a gambling game or should be considered one unless there is something staked on it and I don't see OP mentioning anywhere that there is some requirement for it.

If there is nothing of value at stake, it cannot be considered gambling at all, and risk is only when you have something at stake which you can potentially lose if you don't make a correct prediction.

[BitcoinPanther]

Gambling can be played in a variety of ways. You see, would it class as work if you are not paid in money? Does it class as a purchase if you decide to pay exchanging something? My take is that it is as long as you put there something that has value, from your own time, reputation and even intangibles... or works of art or anything. Time is money as they say.

Can you give proof that time is money?  Time is valuable but I don't think it is money.  You can spend time yes but you cannot acquire money from it unless you have used it to produce goods.  Time alone cannot bring you money unless some factors are added.  for example, your effort in doing jobs can give you money. Or you deposit or you invested money in some system that produce interest over the span of time.  See effort and other factor  is added on time to make money.  Time alone cannot produce you money.  example, if you idle yourself without doing anything.

Work isn't gambling because there is an agreement between two parties where the one provide effort and the other one provide payment according to the value of the work.  There is actually no risk here because both party promised or made contract wherein if deliver will give the promised equivalent amount of the effort done.  If the other party failed to deliver then he can be bring to the court to settle the promised payment.

Same goes with the purchased of goods.  It can never be considered gambling because you just pay an amount equivalent to the item value.  The one thing that can be considered gambling is the mystery purchase but it is on borderline gambling. 

As long as there's a risk involved and it is some kind of prediction, win or lose type of games, then I would always consider it as a form of gambling.
Sometimes even if it's not directly money as long as it have a value and it is being risk then yes it is gambling.

What do you consider the risk to be about if there is no money at stake? Every single game is a win-or-lose type of game, but not every game in the world is a gambling game or should be considered one unless there is something staked on it and I don't see OP mentioning anywhere that there is some requirement for it.

If there is nothing of value at stake, it cannot be considered gambling at all, and risk is only when you have something at stake which you can potentially lose if you don't make a correct prediction.

That is why I stated that there are lots of people who are confused between gambling and playing a game of chance.  Gambling is just a scope of the game of chance where people offer stake to take risk to the chance of getting bigger reward while other scope of the game of chance can be played even without stake.

For example, a guessing game can be a gambling and at the same time just a game of chance.

Guessing game can be a gambling if the player offer a stake or bet to win something.

Guessing game is only a game of chance if the player does not offer stake although get rewarde when he guess it right.  And the case cited by @OP fall under this category.

[Hamphser]

Yes, it is so. When you just watching some match - you don`t lose anything. You can be just become disappointed with the result. But when you can lose something - you feel much more emotions from the match/fight.
And your predictions and bets become more accurate when you feel responsibility for the result.

Disappointment is sure to get when gamblers lose some money but when gamblers bet with pleasure and responsibility they don't regret what they have lost because of betting and precisely from that loss they can learn and learn to make every prediction correctly and learn to control themselves so that they are more be responsible and can accept any risk when betting.
Emotions have made many gamblers lose things and even make it difficult to be able to make correct betting predictions.
By the way, have you ever had a number of free spins and managed to win tens of dollars but had to deposit more than what you got to make a withdrawal and when you made a deposit you had to bet but instead lost everything because of curiosity when playing using free spins you can get the win.

In my opinion without your own responsibility you can`t learn to predict. You can train, but the price of such predictions is zero. I think that until you don`t ready to risk your money - you can`t advice someone to risk.
Yes, i lost my money with free spins, and i`m sure that it is the main purpose of such bonuses - make the gambler spend his own money to get the profit from the free spins.

There is no better teacher than self experience. You can not teach someone without you knowing that thing through experience. If you must predict, you must have experience in predicting game or otherwise, so as to be able to predict for others. So therefore, you must have spent your resources to learning how to predict which means it is not free.

When betting, it is advised to use spare cash you can afford to loose same advise is applicable herein on this platform.  So if you loose funds in the course of betting it would not bother you much because of the fact that the funds are spare Cash and nothing to worry about.
That's why it is always advised to gamble responsibly.

Seeing other experience does really add up that kind of awareness on how things do works and what truly it is, on which it would really be lessening out the risk on committing mistakes just because you have done your effort and using up your own common sense on how to make some adjustment basing up on others experiences too. Its true that there's no other best teacher than self experience on where even you do
consider yourself that fully aware on things or something knowledge, there are still things which arent really that within your grasps.

In speaking about gambling without having involving money or simply you arent betting or risking something then it would really be that understandable if you do know the differences.
Good thing that there are still offerings which is something like this because it is really that impossible that there would be no company would really be giving out
free money making opportunity.

[blockman]

The occasion is indeed gambling , but the bettor ? can we consider them as Gambler in that way when they did not even put a single cent to gamble?
this is  a never ending debate I believe unless will be answered directly by those who are involved and admit if they are gambler or not.
this can be handled by not gambler that only wants to try their luck as it is a freebet.

They can be said to a gambler because in times that they will win with those free bets then that means that they have gambled and they're gamblers.
Having free bets isn't only limited to nongamblers but even those hardcore gamblers, we all want to have free bets if it's possible that we can win some bets and prizes through it.

Gambling can be played in a variety of ways. You see, would it class as work if you are not paid in money? Does it class as a purchase if you decide to pay exchanging something? My take is that it is as long as you put there something that has value, from your own time, reputation and even intangibles... or works of art or anything. Time is money as they say.

And in opposite when you've got nothing to bet for and it has no value for you but has a value based from the casino that has given that bet freely, it's still can be considered as a gamble.

[serjent05]

In speaking about gambling without having involving money or simply you arent betting or risking something then it would really be that understandable if you do know the differences.
Good thing that there are still offerings which is something like this because it is really that impossible that there would be no company would really be giving out
free money making opportunity.

Well if there is no stake involved then it isn't gambling at all.  We should really know the difference between gambling and just playing.  And about gambling platforms giving out a prediction game just like the same case stated by @OP,

we can set the Bitcoin price prediction hosted by Bitcasino as another example. Now tell me is this game hosted by Bitcasino a gambling game or just a prediction game?

And in opposite when you've got nothing to bet for and it has no value for you but has a value based from the casino that has given that bet freely, it's still can be considered as a gamble.

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[DoublerHunter]

Gambling can be played in a variety of ways. You see, would it class as work if you are not paid in money? Does it class as a purchase if you decide to pay exchanging something? My take is that it is as long as you put there something that has value, from your own time, reputation and even intangibles... or works of art or anything. Time is money as they say.

^ Of course, even when you gamble for fun, there is still a risk involved.
You may lose money or other valuable things, such as your time or reputation if you are not careful. But gambling without money is a way to boost your knowledge of gambling. Just like what I did before, I gambled using an app poker game without using real money, my intention is to gain experience on how to play it. If you feel you gamble for experience and spend your time with that, then I disagree that not all them time you spend not jus because of money.

[serjent05]

Gambling can be played in a variety of ways. You see, would it class as work if you are not paid in money? Does it class as a purchase if you decide to pay exchanging something? My take is that it is as long as you put there something that has value, from your own time, reputation and even intangibles... or works of art or anything. Time is money as they say.

^ Of course, even when you gamble for fun, there is still a risk involved.
You may lose money or other valuable things, such as your time or reputation if you are not careful. But gambling without money is a way to boost your knowledge of gambling. Just like what I did before, I gambled using an app poker game without using real money, my intention is to gain experience on how to play it. If you feel you gamble for experience and spend your time with that, then I disagree that not all them time you spend not jus because of money.

You did not gamble, you play and used an app poker game to increase your knowledge and experience about gambling games.  I think is a good case of a misconception about gambling and playing   No offense intended just giving an example.  

You can gain experience about games in gambling from playing gambling games with play money.  Watching other people play, reading articles and gambling game features.  But you cannot say you gamble when you really don't put any stake in the game you are playing.

[Wiwo]

Gambling can be played in a variety of ways. You see, would it class as work if you are not paid in money? Does it class as a purchase if you decide to pay exchanging something? My take is that it is as long as you put there something that has value, from your own time, reputation and even intangibles... or works of art or anything. Time is money as they say.

Exactly because even though a player does not deposit case directly to the casino to play with, he/she still invests one thing or the other ranging from their time efforts and even devices that are used it all involves values as you have rightly said.

But in most cases, society does not consider those as gambling, since the belief one can only gamble by staking some money and every or aspect is just regarded as just playing for fun.

[blockman]

And in opposite when you've got nothing to bet for and it has no value for you but has a value based from the casino that has given that bet freely, it's still can be considered as a gamble.

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IMHO. Yes, because of the requirement that it has got.

The winning amount has 1X wagering requirement

[serjent05]

And in opposite when you've got nothing to bet for and it has no value for you but has a value based from the casino that has given that bet freely, it's still can be considered as a gamble.

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IMHO. Yes, because of the requirement that it has got.

The winning amount has 1X wagering requirement

Good catch but it is after you win the price.  Isn't it?  So winning the amount from the prediction, you do not stake anything. Thus, you did not gamble or put a stake that comes from your purse at all.

Withdrawing the winnings is another part where you wager your winning amount.  If we connect it, you still don't wager anything from your purse at all because you did not stake anything in the first place.  You are playing with the host's money, right?  And it will be yours once you meet the requirement.  Well, I partially agree that this action (claiming the prize) is gambling since there is a wagering requirement regardless of whose money it is but the first part which is the prediction contest isn't.  Gambling came after the contest is done.

[blockman]

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IMHO. Yes, because of the requirement that it has got.

The winning amount has 1X wagering requirement

Good catch but it is after you win the price.  Isn't it?  So winning the amount from the prediction, you do not stake anything. Thus, you did not gamble or put a stake that comes from your purse at all.

Withdrawing the winnings is another part where you wager your winning amount.  If we connect it, you still don't wager anything from your purse at all because you did not stake anything in the first place.  You are playing with the host's money, right?  And it will be yours once you meet the requirement.  Well, I partially agree that this action (claiming the prize) is gambling since there is a wagering requirement regardless of whose money it is but the first part which is the prediction contest isn't.  Gambling came after the contest is done.

Good points mate.
Yes, that's after when you finally have won and that's what I'm telling that those that are giving like free bets and free tickets, they're still all considered gambling even if you have nothing to stake with and as to the requirement of getting the prize, you'll be required to at least have 1 wager requirement and it hasn't said any amount on it so basically, that's a heads off and easy requirement that one can simply comply afterwards.

[tusandii]

Yes, it is so. When you just watching some match - you don`t lose anything. You can be just become disappointed with the result. But when you can lose something - you feel much more emotions from the match/fight.
And your predictions and bets become more accurate when you feel responsibility for the result.

Disappointment is sure to get when gamblers lose some money but when gamblers bet with pleasure and responsibility they don't regret what they have lost because of betting and precisely from that loss they can learn and learn to make every prediction correctly and learn to control themselves so that they are more be responsible and can accept any risk when betting.
Emotions have made many gamblers lose things and even make it difficult to be able to make correct betting predictions.
By the way, have you ever had a number of free spins and managed to win tens of dollars but had to deposit more than what you got to make a withdrawal and when you made a deposit you had to bet but instead lost everything because of curiosity when playing using free spins you can get the win.

In my opinion without your own responsibility you can`t learn to predict. You can train, but the price of such predictions is zero. I think that until you don`t ready to risk your money - you can`t advice someone to risk.
Yes, i lost my money with free spins, and i`m sure that it is the main purpose of such bonuses - make the gambler spend his own money to get the profit from the free spins.

I can learn to predictions, friends, so far I have never used other people's predictions and prefer to bet my predictions, whether the results win or lose are profitable or not, but so I can hone and improve the predictions that are made so that in the future could be better.
There is no knowledge without learning and no success without defeat.
I will definitely be ready to risk my money because it is a choice and risks will definitely come at any time in gambling. Losses I only consider as payment for the experience and insight that I get.

From losing money because these free spins should be able to give you experience that not all bonuses can be profitable and you have to be able to calculate whether the bonus is worth it or not, friend.

[Shamm]

Yes, it is so. When you just watching some match - you don`t lose anything. You can be just become disappointed with the result. But when you can lose something - you feel much more emotions from the match/fight.
And your predictions and bets become more accurate when you feel responsibility for the result.

Disappointment is sure to get when gamblers lose some money but when gamblers bet with pleasure and responsibility they don't regret what they have lost because of betting and precisely from that loss they can learn and learn to make every prediction correctly and learn to control themselves so that they are more be responsible and can accept any risk when betting.
Emotions have made many gamblers lose things and even make it difficult to be able to make correct betting predictions.
By the way, have you ever had a number of free spins and managed to win tens of dollars but had to deposit more than what you got to make a withdrawal and when you made a deposit you had to bet but instead lost everything because of curiosity when playing using free spins you can get the win.

In my opinion without your own responsibility you can`t learn to predict. You can train, but the price of such predictions is zero. I think that until you don`t ready to risk your money - you can`t advice someone to risk.
Yes, i lost my money with free spins, and i`m sure that it is the main purpose of such bonuses - make the gambler spend his own money to get the profit from the free spins.

I can learn to predictions, friends, so far I have never used other people's predictions and prefer to bet my predictions, whether the results win or lose are profitable or not, but so I can hone and improve the predictions that are made so that in the future could be better.
There is no knowledge without learning and no success without defeat.
I will definitely be ready to risk my money because it is a choice and risks will definitely come at any time in gambling. Losses I only consider as payment for the experience and insight that I get.

From losing money because these free spins should be able to give you experience that not all bonuses can be profitable and you have to be able to calculate whether the bonus is worth it or not, friend.

Some of our prediction are gone wrong and right for example we predict that our favorite team will win their game, but they failed to do that so our prediction not gonna work. But sometimes what we predict is what will happen so it's a sort of lucky day. But it's better to understand more things than predicting all the time. Gathered some knowledge in order to be more great in gambling is better than predicting.

[JooBra]

Well poker stars has used points system for long time where you can play without real money, also zynga poker. Now I think if you care enough for the points it's gambling. Gambling is not neccesarry a bad thing either. If you care for somerhing that is betting on then it is gambling for me.

[klidex]

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IMHO. Yes, because of the requirement that it has got.

The winning amount has 1X wagering requirement

Good catch but it is after you win the price.  Isn't it?  So winning the amount from the prediction, you do not stake anything. Thus, you did not gamble or put a stake that comes from your purse at all.

Withdrawing the winnings is another part where you wager your winning amount.  If we connect it, you still don't wager anything from your purse at all because you did not stake anything in the first place.  You are playing with the host's money, right?  And it will be yours once you meet the requirement.  Well, I partially agree that this action (claiming the prize) is gambling since there is a wagering requirement regardless of whose money it is but the first part which is the prediction contest isn't.  Gambling came after the contest is done.

Good points mate.
Yes, that's after when you finally have won and that's what I'm telling that those that are giving like free bets and free tickets, they're still all considered gambling even if you have nothing to stake with and as to the requirement of getting the prize, you'll be required to at least have 1 wager requirement and it hasn't said any amount on it so basically, that's a heads off and easy requirement that one can simply comply afterwards.

From these several arguments the conclusion is that anything that still uses the terms of the bet is gambling even though we predict for free and we will bet after winning but in the end it is also a bet not.
So even though it's free but the real prize is still gambling.

[Cantsay]

As long as there's a risk involved and it is some kind of prediction, win or lose type of games, then I would always consider it as a form of gambling.
Sometimes even if it's not directly money as long as it have a value and it is being risk then yes it is gambling.

You are not using your money to gamble so what kind of risk are you referring to?

You should first know what the meaning of gambling is; as long as you're not risking your money for the chance of winning or getting money then it's not gambling, like I said previously it's more like a giveaway (go to games and round) and see them there.