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March 27, 2024, 09:59:50 PM
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Thanks for agreeing with me, but I can't resist emphasizing that it's an extremely bad idea to try to improve you financial situation to pay school fees,  or for health-care procedures, or to tart a business through gambling. Online gambling is there to have fun with it, not for making money through it.
but one of the major reasons people do involve themselves into online gambling it is because they want to make a money and there's so many people has been helping their self out through online gambling many people does not gamble because they need entertainment but the gamble because they need a quick money so so many people who told you today that they are gambling in order to entertain themselves I will say that that is a capital lies because the objective of every gambler is to make a money I'm making that money to get money is to win in any average of gambling they placed they bet on

That's right, that's a common excuse that we often get from most gamblers who come and get involved in gambling, and I think it's true that the only thing that makes people interested in gambling is because of the opportunity to win or multiply the money they bring, they think that gambling will be able to solve their financial problems or they think that gambling is a quick way to get rich by taking advantage of the winning opportunities that are there.

When in fact it is not as easy as turning the palm of the hand, or the meaning of getting a win is not as easy as they imagine because the possibility of losing will always haunt them whenever they gamble, and I am sure that there are some gamblers who hide behind the idea of gambling for entertainment when in fact their intention and purpose is actually to earn, and if you want to know whether they come with the aim of entertainment or to earn then I think you can see from whether they suffer significant adverse effects or not.

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March 27, 2024, 10:18:07 PM
Last edit: April 29, 2024, 07:31:13 AM by hilariousandco
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A Shanghai man was sentenced to prison for kidnapping his own granddaughter so he could maintain his gambling addiction with the ransom money.

The kidnapping — orchestrated by a 65-year-old man identified only by his surname, Yuan — was first reported by the Shanghai Law and Rule Journal. The legal news outlet didn't specify when the incident occurred but wrote on April 18 that Yuan had just started serving his prison sentence.

Yuan kicked off his plan by picking up his four-year-old granddaughter from her kindergarten and taking her out to eat and shop without her mother's knowledge, the Journal reported.

[1] https://www.insider.com/shanghai-man-kidnapped-his-own-granddaughter-for-72000-report-2023-4
[2] https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/grandpa-in-china-kidnaps-own-granddaughter-demands-ransom-so-he-can-continue-gambling

many gambling addicts have lost their minds because their desire to continue gambling overpowers their common sense, hence the importance of "gambling responsibly"

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There are three licensing objectives which support the whole basis of gambling regulation:

- that crime should be kept out of gambling
- it should be conducted in a fair and open way
- children and other vulnerable persons should be protected from harm or exploitation from gambling.

[1] https://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/licensees-and-businesses/guide/social-responsibility

I think similar articles with headlines about responsible gambling have existed and will always exist. As long as human greed, stupidity, fear and the like continue to exist, the owners of casinos, bets and other types of gambling will earn money. Of course, every person who is interested in gambling must have the skill of responsible gambling and remember that if a person loses control over himself, then he should stop gambling, no matter how large the loss of money is, otherwise the losses will be even greater.
Addicted people don't understand how to stop their addiction so if they experience more and more losses it will increase their pressure to continue gambling to chase their losses, so it's not surprising that some of their families hate the gambler's behavior, it's not surprising that their family abandons them because addiction itself is very annoying. Especially if they has no intention of stopping and has a temperamental nature that is certain of course his family will leave him alone.

It's true, people who are very addicted to gambling even can forget about their homes. In my country there are no official offline casinos, there is only gambling done by people when they gather in one place or just gambling on cockfights. From this habit, they are even spend too long time outside with their gambling friends. No time for his family, let say from 7 - 4, they are working, when working day is over, they are just going to take a bath and back to their gambling friends. There was even one case where a husband and wife quarreled in front of my house, this happen after divorcing because his wife didn't want to accept him anymore. Hopefully all of us on this forum don't experience something similar. We should be able to learn to control ourselves even though we are addicted to gambling, but we still have to remember all our families.

In my country it is not possible to officially play offline gambling. Online only. But there are places where rich people can gather and play in the casino, place bets and the like. These could be separate large hotels or resort towns, or special areas for people who love gambling. That is, this is done so that people who spend their last money on gambling do not have such an opportunity. After all, there is a difference when a person who has the opportunity to spend money plays gambling and a person who works 8 hours a day at a simple job, has a family of children, takes the last money from the family budget, then borrows it and spends it all in a casino.
A very important point is that when a person does not have a family and he has losses in gambling, then he will solve all these problems himself, but if he has children, a family, then he already has responsibilities for other people. If such a person has gambling addictions and cannot control his emotions, then he should stop doing this, even if he lost money on bets, because most likely he will lose even more over time

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March 27, 2024, 10:46:00 PM
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I think similar articles with headlines about responsible gambling have existed and will always exist. As long as human greed, stupidity, fear and the like continue to exist, the owners of casinos, bets and other types of gambling will earn money.
Just like Bitcoin, casinos are here to stay and they've been profitable as long as there are gamblers that are having fun and at the same time willing to go all in with most of their stays as they gamble.

Of course, every person who is interested in gambling must have the skill of responsible gambling and remember that if a person loses control over himself, then he should stop gambling, no matter how large the loss of money is, otherwise the losses will be even greater
It's a must for every gambler to become responsible. But if it's about maintaining it, that's when the hard time comes and not everyone can be responsible with their gambling activities. They need to be consistent into maintaining themselves in becoming responsible but based on many experiences that we've heard and read, it's not that too easy.

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March 28, 2024, 05:53:43 PM
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The casino will always have the house advantage, if we play little, the casinos also win little, obviously when the big whales enter, the casinos will also have high profits, so every time we win in the casino we should take advantage of withdrawing the money.

casinos are indeed a wonderful business. Even when someone hits the jackpot who wins big, it's still a small expense for the casino because there are still a lot of people who lose. so you will never lose at the casino.

We must be able to understand this, so as not to get caught up in greed which actually results in us becoming delicious food for the casino. Even a little victory is actually enough if we can enjoy it.

Yes, that is the smartest thing to do, that is why everything you do and win in a casino you have to withdraw that money, even if it is little, but you have to withdraw it because if you don't withdraw that money I am sure it will be lost, There is very little chance of increasing it again or something like that, you have to be intelligent, that's why you should withdraw it.

As you say, you are completely right, when a Person wins at the casino, whether it is the Jackpot , it is or it is like removing a hair from a cat, it is not something significant, but the casinos do make very good use of their Clients' money, because like this Let it be 1 dollar, if the casino wins it, then he wins it and he defends, then these types of things are what we must see, that is why every time you play in a casino you should take advantage of withdrawing money , it is the best way to to do the things.

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March 28, 2024, 06:03:51 PM
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The casino will always have the house advantage, if we play little, the casinos also win little, obviously when the big whales enter, the casinos will also have high profits, so every time we win in the casino we should take advantage of withdrawing the money.

casinos are indeed a wonderful business. Even when someone hits the jackpot who wins big, it's still a small expense for the casino because there are still a lot of people who lose. so you will never lose at the casino.

We must be able to understand this, so as not to get caught up in greed which actually results in us becoming delicious food for the casino. Even a little victory is actually enough if we can enjoy it.

Yes, that is the smartest thing to do, that is why everything you do and win in a casino you have to withdraw that money, even if it is little, but you have to withdraw it because if you don't withdraw that money I am sure it will be lost, There is very little chance of increasing it again or something like that, you have to be intelligent, that's why you should withdraw it.

As you say, you are completely right, when a Person wins at the casino, whether it is the Jackpot , it is or it is like removing a hair from a cat, it is not something significant, but the casinos do make very good use of their Clients' money, because like this Let it be 1 dollar, if the casino wins it, then he wins it and he defends, then these types of things are what we must see, that is why every time you play in a casino you should take advantage of withdrawing money , it is the best way to to do the things.
Totally depends on the mind of a certain gambler because there are ones who are trying out to win up their games just because they do want to prolong the duration of their session on doing gambling
on which they've been already accepting that they would be losing in the end and they dont really care about on getting home with positive profits but well majority would really be hoping that they would really be able to get up such profits specially huge ones. It is really just that the main common issue for most people is that we do become that too greedy on the time that we are on a winning condition. You would really be that impulsive on which it do comes into a point that controlling yourself would already be an issue and this is why they would really be having that kind of approach on things on which it would really be that common approach to have.

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March 28, 2024, 09:10:46 PM
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Totally depends on the mind of a certain gambler because there are ones who are trying out to win up their games just because they do want to prolong the duration of their session on doing gambling
on which they've been already accepting that they would be losing in the end and they dont really care about on getting home with positive profits but well majority would really be hoping that they would really be able to get up such profits specially huge ones. It is really just that the main common issue for most people is that we do become that too greedy on the time that we are on a winning condition. You would really be that impulsive on which it do comes into a point that controlling yourself would already be an issue and this is why they would really be having that kind of approach on things on which it would really be that common approach to have.
In general, for someone who gambles, the main goal is to make a profit or multiply the money he brings when he visits there.
like the case you described, perhaps only a small number of people actually know that they will lose when gambling, so they use their winnings as a tool to extend the duration of the game there. Actually, in my opinion, it's not good if you play in a casino for too long, because you also remember that you still have family left behind, no matter how rich you are and how much you spend to have fun playing the game.

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April 01, 2024, 06:46:22 AM
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I think similar articles with headlines about responsible gambling have existed and will always exist. As long as human greed, stupidity, fear and the like continue to exist, the owners of casinos, bets and other types of gambling will earn money. Of course, every person who is interested in gambling must have the skill of responsible gambling and remember that if a person loses control over himself, then he should stop gambling, no matter how large the loss of money is, otherwise the losses will be even greater
Casinos are just offering a service, however when people think about the possibility of making money in this way they get greedy, and that is when things can get out of hand, as they no longer gamble for the fun they could supposedly get, and now they just care about the money they could make, but the casinos are not really at fault for this, as even if they promote themselves by making a point of all the money you could make, it is up to each person to take their time and understand that this is not possible, as if it was then casinos should disappear, but instead what we see is more casinos being created every month.
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April 01, 2024, 07:08:31 AM
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In general, for someone who gambles, the main goal is to make a profit or multiply the money he brings when he visits there.
like the case you described, perhaps only a small number of people actually know that they will lose when gambling, so they use their winnings as a tool to extend the duration of the game there. Actually, in my opinion, it's not good if you play in a casino for too long, because you also remember that you still have family left behind, no matter how rich you are and how much you spend to have fun playing the game.

That is the main goal of all gamblers, I am sure that even someone who gambles with the aim of having fun they will definitely want a win in their heart there is no way they don't want a win. Because the victory in gambling is one of the points of pleasure of every gambler.  There are many gamblers who do not realize that the gambling they do will mostly end in defeat, especially with those who gamble for the sole purpose of making money or winning. People who gamble with the aim of making money or getting a win most likely they will not be able to accept the defeat that is clearly going to happen, and their attitude that cannot accept defeat will make it difficult for themselves.

If they do win, there is a possibility of either withdrawing or continuing the gambling session. But the best choice is to withdraw it because I'm sure we all know that the winnings that have been obtained can be lost again when they continue gambling, because in my opinion they will be more aggressive when gambling after getting a win.

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April 01, 2024, 07:40:19 AM
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many gambling addicts have lost their minds because their desire to continue gambling overpowers their common sense, hence the importance of "gambling responsibly"
Ironically when there are people who cannot control addiction in gambling, this is just a small example of many gamblers that ended worse and there are some who end their lives because they are in debt when gambling. Gambling is responsible when you are not addicted and when it cannot be controlled, in my opinion it is difficult to be responsible for gambling choices.

The problem is how you put gambling, if done only for fun in spare time is not a problem. But when gambling is done as a substitute for permanent work, this will be far more problematic and it is very difficult to control, the decision is in each of us and as much as possible avoid addiction in gambling.

Gambling addiction is a genuine problem, and as you indicated, it may lead to financial disaster and even suicide. In this instance, they require assistance, which might include regulating the gaming business in such a manner that they are not abused by gambling companies. For example, we may impose limitations on how much money individuals can bet in a certain period of time, or we could force gambling organizations to offer information about the odds of winning. We may also require gaming firms to give responsible gambling training for their staff. Also, to raise awareness about the issues involved, such as the perils of gambling addiction.
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When was the last time in your life when you saw gambling addicted person? Or have anyone of you ever seen such people? I see a lot of people talk about addicted people, but all they know about them is from reading articles or someone has told them. I have also read about ludomania, but in person never ever seen addicted people. Or maybe from first look it is impossible to tell if person is addicted. I have only see drunk people near offline casinos. But I doubt that they were addicted gamblers.

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but one of the major reasons people do involve themselves into online gambling it is because they want to make a money and there's so many people has been helping their self out through online gambling many people does not gamble because they need entertainment but the gamble because they need a quick money so so many people who told you today that they are gambling in order to entertain themselves I will say that that is a capital lies because the objective of every gambler is to make a money I'm making that money to get money is to win in any average of gambling they placed they bet on

It's actually a big question, I mean, why do people gamble? What is the main reason? Yes, everyone wants to win, but how desperate that desire is? Some jump out of the window after losing and others forget about it in a minute or less. I think the latter constitute the majority of gamblers, not the former.

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When was the last time in your life when you saw gambling addicted person? Or have anyone of you ever seen such people? I see a lot of people talk about addicted people, but all they know about them is from reading articles or someone has told them. I have also read about ludomania, but in person never ever seen addicted people. Or maybe from first look it is impossible to tell if person is addicted. I have only see drunk people near offline casinos. But I doubt that they were addicted gamblers.

I would say many are gambling daily at the local casino.

Just head into any casino in your city and you will probably see a few addicts there.

Specially if you go late at night, they will be there playing all the time.

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That is the main goal of all gamblers, I am sure that even someone who gambles with the aim of having fun they will definitely want a win in their heart there is no way they don't want a win. Because the victory in gambling is one of the points of pleasure of every gambler.  There are many gamblers who do not realize that the gambling they do will mostly end in defeat, especially with those who gamble for the sole purpose of making money or winning. People who gamble with the aim of making money or getting a win most likely they will not be able to accept the defeat that is clearly going to happen, and their attitude that cannot accept defeat will make it difficult for themselves.


Yeah right, even it's just for fun the aim to enjoy more is to win, I guess there's nothing more than winning and the excitement will fill the desire of gambling, there are people who keeps trying to interchange their strategy to check they will somehow win against the house, what's good when you are only aiming for fun is you are not being affected that much when you lose, and you can move forward after.

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If they do win, there is a possibility of either withdrawing or continuing the gambling session. But the best choice is to withdraw it because I'm sure we all know that the winnings that have been obtained can be lost again when they continue gambling, because in my opinion they will be more aggressive when gambling after getting a win.

Yup, withdraw and pause for a while, enjoy the moment and use the money to whatever additional entertainment that you are aiming, nothing beats the rewards when you win.

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but one of the major reasons people do involve themselves into online gambling it is because they want to make a money and there's so many people has been helping their self out through online gambling many people does not gamble because they need entertainment but the gamble because they need a quick money so so many people who told you today that they are gambling in order to entertain themselves I will say that that is a capital lies because the objective of every gambler is to make a money I'm making that money to get money is to win in any average of gambling they placed they bet on

It's actually a big question, I mean, why do people gamble? What is the main reason? Yes, everyone wants to win, but how desperate that desire is? Some jump out of the window after losing and others forget about it in a minute or less. I think the latter constitute the majority of gamblers, not the former.
I might not be hypocritical about that, everyone has different reasons that you can't categorize in the same way, we all know that perhaps the majority of gamblers really want to win and also get big money, so that's why many gambling addicts can't control themselves when they want to. achieve the results they want, but there are also some gamblers who really aren't for money, instead they spend money just to have fun, nothing more than that, but that's only done by rich people.

Poor people usually gamble to try their luck and make money in gambling so their goal from the start of gambling is to win and get money so it will be different from most rich people who gamble on average, they just want fun, I saw my friend gambling and he never had a problem with losing, he even spent hundreds of dollars gambling, for him it was the same as spending money playing golf with his business friends, so according to him, the money he lost gambling, he would consider it spent playing golf, not gambling. , after all, he said, it depends on how a person's mindset understands the pleasure of gambling

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but one of the major reasons people do involve themselves into online gambling it is because they want to make a money and there's so many people has been helping their self out through online gambling many people does not gamble because they need entertainment but the gamble because they need a quick money so so many people who told you today that they are gambling in order to entertain themselves I will say that that is a capital lies because the objective of every gambler is to make a money I'm making that money to get money is to win in any average of gambling they placed they bet on

It's actually a big question, I mean, why do people gamble? What is the main reason? Yes, everyone wants to win, but how desperate that desire is? Some jump out of the window after losing and others forget about it in a minute or less. I think the latter constitute the majority of gamblers, not the former.

It's obvious and you've already said that the reason most people gamble is that they come to earn money by winning in one of their sessions, and despair I think depends on the type of gambler, or I mean whether they are a gambler who comes with the intention of earning or something else like entertainment, and I believe despair is usually more likely to be experienced by gamblers who come with the intention of earning where losing is a situation that is difficult for them to accept which is usually the main trigger for many more serious problems.

Gamblers who come in with the intention of earning always experience problems due to having the wrong goals in gambling such as experiencing the stress of not being able to account for the money that has been lost, while others are those gamblers who are still fine because they only put the amount of money they can account for, so your goals are very decisive about the impact of gambling that will befall you in the future.

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April 01, 2024, 02:43:30 PM
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I might not be hypocritical about that, everyone has different reasons that you can't categorize in the same way, we all know that perhaps the majority of gamblers really want to win and also get big money, so that's why many gambling addicts can't control themselves when they want to. achieve the results they want, but there are also some gamblers who really aren't for money, instead they spend money just to have fun, nothing more than that, but that's only done by rich people.

Poor people usually gamble to try their luck and make money in gambling so their goal from the start of gambling is to win and get money so it will be different from most rich people who gamble on average, they just want fun, I saw my friend gambling and he never had a problem with losing, he even spent hundreds of dollars gambling, for him it was the same as spending money playing golf with his business friends, so according to him, the money he lost gambling, he would consider it spent playing golf, not gambling. , after all, he said, it depends on how a person's mindset understands the pleasure of gambling
I think all gamblers definitely want to win, because winning at gambling is also a point of enjoyment. It's very hypocritical in my opinion if there are gamblers who don't want to win, because it's clear that the main goal of gambling is to win because that's one of the things that everyone wants because winning is money that everyone needs, but it's their fault that they're too ambitious in chasing that win. It's not certain that it causes them to experience their own problems.
with the many advertisements displayed and word of mouth about gambling which can provide victory, it is good news for poor people who have problems with their finances, but they do not see gambling fully, they only see the winning side without seeing the other side, namely the clearer defeat. what will happen to the gambling they do, it doesn't matter if they are rich or poor, but what will definitely happen is losing or losing the money they bet on gambling. but we should not worry about the losses that occur because in my opinion it has become a fixed rule that cannot be changed, with those who experience large losses or gamble excessively they may not be able to accept the reality of the losses that ended with the gambling they did.

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April 01, 2024, 02:44:56 PM
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In general, for someone who gambles, the main goal is to make a profit or multiply the money he brings when he visits there.
like the case you described, perhaps only a small number of people actually know that they will lose when gambling, so they use their winnings as a tool to extend the duration of the game there. Actually, in my opinion, it's not good if you play in a casino for too long, because you also remember that you still have family left behind, no matter how rich you are and how much you spend to have fun playing the game.

That is the main goal of all gamblers, I am sure that even someone who gambles with the aim of having fun they will definitely want a win in their heart there is no way they don't want a win. Because the victory in gambling is one of the points of pleasure of every gambler.  There are many gamblers who do not realize that the gambling they do will mostly end in defeat, especially with those who gamble for the sole purpose of making money or winning. People who gamble with the aim of making money or getting a win most likely they will not be able to accept the defeat that is clearly going to happen, and their attitude that cannot accept defeat will make it difficult for themselves.

If they do win, there is a possibility of either withdrawing or continuing the gambling session. But the best choice is to withdraw it because I'm sure we all know that the winnings that have been obtained can be lost again when they continue gambling, because in my opinion they will be more aggressive when gambling after getting a win.
This loss-chasing thing... It shows a major fault we all have. Our nature is to pursue success, even if it means running into a wall. That wall gives the house an advantage in gambling. But when you win? Knowing when to leave is the real test. Cashing out is sensible, but how many do it? Not many. Because that win proves you can beat a game created to beat you

Gambling should be fun, not a losing war. Expect defeats, and those wins? Consider these a great surprise. That's a better mentality, yet most people seeking wins aren't thinking clearly

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April 01, 2024, 03:14:32 PM
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That is what gambling addicted can caused to those that are in such stage because, it will be pushing you to do some things that will endanger your life and once you did it your eyes will be open to know that you have done some thing wrong and maybe there will be no mercy at the moment to such person that committed such crime.


I came to discovered that those that are addicted to gambling are those people that take gambling as an investment because, they will be trying to put more money if they will be able to win millions or billions and, that is their thinking before it will lead them to be addicted to start selling their home things just to gamble and some habit has made some gamblers to loss their job because of too much loan they have collected from the company.

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That is the main goal of all gamblers, I am sure that even someone who gambles with the aim of having fun they will definitely want a win in their heart there is no way they don't want a win. Because the victory in gambling is one of the points of pleasure of every gambler.  There are many gamblers who do not realize that the gambling they do will mostly end in defeat, especially with those who gamble for the sole purpose of making money or winning. People who gamble with the aim of making money or getting a win most likely they will not be able to accept the defeat that is clearly going to happen, and their attitude that cannot accept defeat will make it difficult for themselves.

If they do win, there is a possibility of either withdrawing or continuing the gambling session. But the best choice is to withdraw it because I'm sure we all know that the winnings that have been obtained can be lost again when they continue gambling, because in my opinion they will be more aggressive when gambling after getting a win.
By withdrawing winnings it will also allow us to think more clearly and not be greedy because we have more money. Many players get trapped here, when they win they actually increase their bet, instead of wanting to get more wins, they are instead defeated by their own greed until they don't realize that their money has run out.

This loss-chasing thing... It shows a major fault we all have. Our nature is to pursue success, even if it means running into a wall. That wall gives the house an advantage in gambling. But when you win? Knowing when to leave is the real test. Cashing out is sensible, but how many do it? Not many. Because that win proves you can beat a game created to beat you

Gambling should be fun, not a losing war. Expect defeats, and those wins? Consider these a great surprise. That's a better mentality, yet most people seeking wins aren't thinking clearly
I agree with that.
The real game of gambling is not when you play, but rather being able to determine when to leave. either when you win, even if it's still small, or when you lose. In my opinion, losing here is more about setting a limit for losing, not losing in the sense of spending all the money he brought to the casino.

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April 01, 2024, 10:30:23 PM
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I came to discovered that those that are addicted to gambling are those people that take gambling as an investment because, they will be trying to put more money if they will be able to win millions or billions and, that is their thinking before it will lead them to be addicted to start selling their home things just to gamble and some habit has made some gamblers to loss their job because of too much loan they have collected from the company.

At first, they think they are just entertaining themselves when they play. Still, when they ignore the probability of becoming addicted because they know that they don't have control over themselves once it gets hyped, that's when they going to spend as if there is no tomorrow until they lose it all and what's worse is, they not gonna stop after that. They look for another way to get back what they have lost which is not recommended at all because they only make it ugly and not gonna fix the problem, They should not get into it when they realize they have uncontrollable emotions and quickly stop once their funds are already exhausted.

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