The madness of gambling addicts.

[Betwrong]

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I agree with you. It is not good to completely judge everyone that wants to big in gambling as addict or gambling madness. There are several reasons why people get high expectation in gambling pushing them to either bet for a long time or continuing gambling when they are supposed to quit. Yes, may would see it as greed but i don't.

Many are in pressing need of that money, either to pay school fees, health, or start a business. Most times it is just that one-time big need and after that they would quit. Although a onetime gambler is a continues gambler.

Thanks for agreeing with me, but I can't resist emphasizing that it's an extremely bad idea to try to improve you financial situation to pay school fees,  or for health-care procedures, or to tart a business through gambling. Online gambling is there to have fun with it, not for making money through it.

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[nullama]

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Thanks for agreeing with me, but I can't resist emphasizing that it's an extremely bad idea to try to improve you financial situation to pay school fees,  or for health-care procedures, or to tart a business through gambling. Online gambling is there to have fun with it, not for making money through it.

Yeah, pretty much.

There is nothing out there to make money with gambling. Maybe there are things around gambling that generate the money, but in the sense of actually gambling, the money will most probably end up with the casino.

If you have fun with it, then that's all good. You need to make sure you are actually doing something smart with your time and money,.

[Lucasgabd]

The casino will always have the house advantage, if we play little, the casinos also win little, obviously when the big whales enter, the casinos will also have high profits, so every time we win in the casino we should take advantage of withdrawing the money.

casinos are indeed a wonderful business. Even when someone hits the jackpot who wins big, it's still a small expense for the casino because there are still a lot of people who lose. so you will never lose at the casino.

We must be able to understand this, so as not to get caught up in greed which actually results in us becoming delicious food for the casino. Even a little victory is actually enough if we can enjoy it.

casinos are mostly based on math and human emotion
people want the thrill of winning, that is for sure
and with math and good systems you can limit downside, as you say it's always a good day for the house

[Hispo]

The casino will always have the house advantage, if we play little, the casinos also win little, obviously when the big whales enter, the casinos will also have high profits, so every time we win in the casino we should take advantage of withdrawing the money.

casinos are indeed a wonderful business. Even when someone hits the jackpot who wins big, it's still a small expense for the casino because there are still a lot of people who lose. so you will never lose at the casino.

We must be able to understand this, so as not to get caught up in greed which actually results in us becoming delicious food for the casino. Even a little victory is actually enough if we can enjoy it.

casinos are mostly based on math and human emotion
people want the thrill of winning, that is for sure
and with math and good systems you can limit downside, as you say it's always a good day for the house

Not sure there is always a good day for the house, but certainly most of the days are good for the house. Ironically, the biggest threat to a casinos as a business does not have anything to do with gamblers having a lucky day and managing to win some money or hit a jackpot.
The biggest factor for the house or a specific casino not to be profitable anymore is the huge competition and market gaming is by itself. Because of the huge standards and how picky some gamblers are, the house is forced to constantly improve their conditions and treatments of clients, not even mention the variety of games and sports in their books.
If there is no much competition, for example, then there is only one casino in a town, then the expectations and the quality of the experience is not something people look for as much as in a context where there is not a monopoly.
As soon as a good casino moves into the city, the lacklustre casinos will start to lose volume of gamblers and bets, and there is when the end starts to a business.

[LUCKMCFLY]

The casino will always have the house advantage, if we play little, the casinos also win little, obviously when the big whales enter, the casinos will also have high profits, so every time we win in the casino we should take advantage of withdrawing the money.

casinos are indeed a wonderful business. Even when someone hits the jackpot who wins big, it's still a small expense for the casino because there are still a lot of people who lose. so you will never lose at the casino.

We must be able to understand this, so as not to get caught up in greed which actually results in us becoming delicious food for the casino. Even a little victory is actually enough if we can enjoy it.

casinos are mostly based on math and human emotion
people want the thrill of winning, that is for sure
and with math and good systems you can limit downside, as you say it's always a good day for the house

Yes, that is very correct, what is clear is that the mathematics of casinos is very random, they have a system and modeling that is difficult to predict, well in every sense chance is difficult to predict, I personally have always looked for ways to find some tricks, strategies for the games, but it is difficult, because everything is based on luck, sometimes mathematics and statistics, sometimes the mixture of all that that one applies does not work, they do not make much sense, because the random system is very concentrated there to give the house advantage to the casino, that is why every time we win in a casino, we must be smart, we must always look for a way to withdraw as soon as possible, those who leave the money in the casino lose it some time later For that reason it is better to withdraw whenever possible.

[arjunmujay]

casinos are mostly based on math and human emotion
people want the thrill of winning, that is for sure
and with math and good systems you can limit downside, as you say it's always a good day for the house

Yes, that is very correct, what is clear is that the mathematics of casinos is very random, they have a system and modeling that is difficult to predict, well in every sense chance is difficult to predict, I personally have always looked for ways to find some tricks, strategies for the games, but it is difficult, because everything is based on luck, sometimes mathematics and statistics, sometimes the mixture of all that that one applies does not work, they do not make much sense, because the random system is very concentrated there to give the house advantage to the casino, that is why every time we win in a casino, we must be smart, we must always look for a way to withdraw as soon as possible, those who leave the money in the casino lose it some time later For that reason it is better to withdraw whenever possible.

Is the mathematics, statistics and system here to limit ourselves from excessive gaming so that our finances when gambling can be controlled, or is it more for the casino to have control over this so that many players will lose if they don't know about it?
I'm a little confused here

[TopT3ns]

casinos are mostly based on math and human emotion
people want the thrill of winning, that is for sure
and with math and good systems you can limit downside, as you say it's always a good day for the house

Sometimes the system has also been improved with certain algorithms that ordinary gamblers don't know about, because basically casinos want users to always make as many deposits as possible at gambling places, so it's better to be careful and be able to control your emotions well so that you don't spend too much money at the casino.

[Onyeeze]

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I agree with you. It is not good to completely judge everyone that wants to big in gambling as addict or gambling madness. There are several reasons why people get high expectation in gambling pushing them to either bet for a long time or continuing gambling when they are supposed to quit. Yes, may would see it as greed but i don't.

Many are in pressing need of that money, either to pay school fees, health, or start a business. Most times it is just that one-time big need and after that they would quit. Although a onetime gambler is a continues gambler.

Thanks for agreeing with me, but I can't resist emphasizing that it's an extremely bad idea to try to improve you financial situation to pay school fees,  or for health-care procedures, or to tart a business through gambling. Online gambling is there to have fun with it, not for making money through it.

but one of the major reasons people do involve themselves into online gambling it is because they want to make a money and there's so many people has been helping their self out through online gambling many people does not gamble because they need entertainment but the gamble because they need a quick money so so many people who told you today that they are gambling in order to entertain themselves I will say that that is a capital lies because the objective of every gambler is to make a money I'm making that money to get money is to win in any average of gambling they placed they bet on

[nara1892]

Thanks for agreeing with me, but I can't resist emphasizing that it's an extremely bad idea to try to improve you financial situation to pay school fees,  or for health-care procedures, or to tart a business through gambling. Online gambling is there to have fun with it, not for making money through it.

but one of the major reasons people do involve themselves into online gambling it is because they want to make a money and there's so many people has been helping their self out through online gambling many people does not gamble because they need entertainment but the gamble because they need a quick money so so many people who told you today that they are gambling in order to entertain themselves I will say that that is a capital lies because the objective of every gambler is to make a money I'm making that money to get money is to win in any average of gambling they placed they bet on

That's right, that's a common excuse that we often get from most gamblers who come and get involved in gambling, and I think it's true that the only thing that makes people interested in gambling is because of the opportunity to win or multiply the money they bring, they think that gambling will be able to solve their financial problems or they think that gambling is a quick way to get rich by taking advantage of the winning opportunities that are there.

When in fact it is not as easy as turning the palm of the hand, or the meaning of getting a win is not as easy as they imagine because the possibility of losing will always haunt them whenever they gamble, and I am sure that there are some gamblers who hide behind the idea of gambling for entertainment when in fact their intention and purpose is actually to earn, and if you want to know whether they come with the aim of entertainment or to earn then I think you can see from whether they suffer significant adverse effects or not.

[shivansps]

A Shanghai man was sentenced to prison for kidnapping his own granddaughter so he could maintain his gambling addiction with the ransom money.

The kidnapping — orchestrated by a 65-year-old man identified only by his surname, Yuan — was first reported by the Shanghai Law and Rule Journal. The legal news outlet didn't specify when the incident occurred but wrote on April 18 that Yuan had just started serving his prison sentence.

Yuan kicked off his plan by picking up his four-year-old granddaughter from her kindergarten and taking her out to eat and shop without her mother's knowledge, the Journal reported.

[1] https://www.insider.com/shanghai-man-kidnapped-his-own-granddaughter-for-72000-report-2023-4
[2] https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/grandpa-in-china-kidnaps-own-granddaughter-demands-ransom-so-he-can-continue-gambling

many gambling addicts have lost their minds because their desire to continue gambling overpowers their common sense, hence the importance of "gambling responsibly"

There are three licensing objectives which support the whole basis of gambling regulation:

- that crime should be kept out of gambling
- it should be conducted in a fair and open way
- children and other vulnerable persons should be protected from harm or exploitation from gambling.

[1] https://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/licensees-and-businesses/guide/social-responsibility

I think similar articles with headlines about responsible gambling have existed and will always exist. As long as human greed, stupidity, fear and the like continue to exist, the owners of casinos, bets and other types of gambling will earn money. Of course, every person who is interested in gambling must have the skill of responsible gambling and remember that if a person loses control over himself, then he should stop gambling, no matter how large the loss of money is, otherwise the losses will be even greater.

Addicted people don't understand how to stop their addiction so if they experience more and more losses it will increase their pressure to continue gambling to chase their losses, so it's not surprising that some of their families hate the gambler's behavior, it's not surprising that their family abandons them because addiction itself is very annoying. Especially if they has no intention of stopping and has a temperamental nature that is certain of course his family will leave him alone.

It's true, people who are very addicted to gambling even can forget about their homes. In my country there are no official offline casinos, there is only gambling done by people when they gather in one place or just gambling on cockfights. From this habit, they are even spend too long time outside with their gambling friends. No time for his family, let say from 7 - 4, they are working, when working day is over, they are just going to take a bath and back to their gambling friends. There was even one case where a husband and wife quarreled in front of my house, this happen after divorcing because his wife didn't want to accept him anymore. Hopefully all of us on this forum don't experience something similar. We should be able to learn to control ourselves even though we are addicted to gambling, but we still have to remember all our families.

In my country it is not possible to officially play offline gambling. Online only. But there are places where rich people can gather and play in the casino, place bets and the like. These could be separate large hotels or resort towns, or special areas for people who love gambling. That is, this is done so that people who spend their last money on gambling do not have such an opportunity. After all, there is a difference when a person who has the opportunity to spend money plays gambling and a person who works 8 hours a day at a simple job, has a family of children, takes the last money from the family budget, then borrows it and spends it all in a casino.
A very important point is that when a person does not have a family and he has losses in gambling, then he will solve all these problems himself, but if he has children, a family, then he already has responsibilities for other people. If such a person has gambling addictions and cannot control his emotions, then he should stop doing this, even if he lost money on bets, because most likely he will lose even more over time

[passwordnow]

I think similar articles with headlines about responsible gambling have existed and will always exist. As long as human greed, stupidity, fear and the like continue to exist, the owners of casinos, bets and other types of gambling will earn money.

Just like Bitcoin, casinos are here to stay and they've been profitable as long as there are gamblers that are having fun and at the same time willing to go all in with most of their stays as they gamble.

Of course, every person who is interested in gambling must have the skill of responsible gambling and remember that if a person loses control over himself, then he should stop gambling, no matter how large the loss of money is, otherwise the losses will be even greater

It's a must for every gambler to become responsible. But if it's about maintaining it, that's when the hard time comes and not everyone can be responsible with their gambling activities. They need to be consistent into maintaining themselves in becoming responsible but based on many experiences that we've heard and read, it's not that too easy.

[LUCKMCFLY]

The casino will always have the house advantage, if we play little, the casinos also win little, obviously when the big whales enter, the casinos will also have high profits, so every time we win in the casino we should take advantage of withdrawing the money.

casinos are indeed a wonderful business. Even when someone hits the jackpot who wins big, it's still a small expense for the casino because there are still a lot of people who lose. so you will never lose at the casino.

We must be able to understand this, so as not to get caught up in greed which actually results in us becoming delicious food for the casino. Even a little victory is actually enough if we can enjoy it.

Yes, that is the smartest thing to do, that is why everything you do and win in a casino you have to withdraw that money, even if it is little, but you have to withdraw it because if you don't withdraw that money I am sure it will be lost, There is very little chance of increasing it again or something like that, you have to be intelligent, that's why you should withdraw it.

As you say, you are completely right, when a Person wins at the casino, whether it is the Jackpot , it is or it is like removing a hair from a cat, it is not something significant, but the casinos do make very good use of their Clients' money, because like this Let it be 1 dollar, if the casino wins it, then he wins it and he defends, then these types of things are what we must see, that is why every time you play in a casino you should take advantage of withdrawing money , it is the best way to to do the things.

[Oilacris]

The casino will always have the house advantage, if we play little, the casinos also win little, obviously when the big whales enter, the casinos will also have high profits, so every time we win in the casino we should take advantage of withdrawing the money.

casinos are indeed a wonderful business. Even when someone hits the jackpot who wins big, it's still a small expense for the casino because there are still a lot of people who lose. so you will never lose at the casino.

We must be able to understand this, so as not to get caught up in greed which actually results in us becoming delicious food for the casino. Even a little victory is actually enough if we can enjoy it.

Yes, that is the smartest thing to do, that is why everything you do and win in a casino you have to withdraw that money, even if it is little, but you have to withdraw it because if you don't withdraw that money I am sure it will be lost, There is very little chance of increasing it again or something like that, you have to be intelligent, that's why you should withdraw it.

As you say, you are completely right, when a Person wins at the casino, whether it is the Jackpot , it is or it is like removing a hair from a cat, it is not something significant, but the casinos do make very good use of their Clients' money, because like this Let it be 1 dollar, if the casino wins it, then he wins it and he defends, then these types of things are what we must see, that is why every time you play in a casino you should take advantage of withdrawing money , it is the best way to to do the things.

Totally depends on the mind of a certain gambler because there are ones who are trying out to win up their games just because they do want to prolong the duration of their session on doing gambling
on which they've been already accepting that they would be losing in the end and they dont really care about on getting home with positive profits but well majority would really be hoping that they would really be able to get up such profits specially huge ones. It is really just that the main common issue for most people is that we do become that too greedy on the time that we are on a winning condition. You would really be that impulsive on which it do comes into a point that controlling yourself would already be an issue and this is why they would really be having that kind of approach on things on which it would really be that common approach to have.

[arjunmujay]

Totally depends on the mind of a certain gambler because there are ones who are trying out to win up their games just because they do want to prolong the duration of their session on doing gambling
on which they've been already accepting that they would be losing in the end and they dont really care about on getting home with positive profits but well majority would really be hoping that they would really be able to get up such profits specially huge ones. It is really just that the main common issue for most people is that we do become that too greedy on the time that we are on a winning condition. You would really be that impulsive on which it do comes into a point that controlling yourself would already be an issue and this is why they would really be having that kind of approach on things on which it would really be that common approach to have.

In general, for someone who gambles, the main goal is to make a profit or multiply the money he brings when he visits there.
like the case you described, perhaps only a small number of people actually know that they will lose when gambling, so they use their winnings as a tool to extend the duration of the game there. Actually, in my opinion, it's not good if you play in a casino for too long, because you also remember that you still have family left behind, no matter how rich you are and how much you spend to have fun playing the game.

[Silberman]

I think similar articles with headlines about responsible gambling have existed and will always exist. As long as human greed, stupidity, fear and the like continue to exist, the owners of casinos, bets and other types of gambling will earn money. Of course, every person who is interested in gambling must have the skill of responsible gambling and remember that if a person loses control over himself, then he should stop gambling, no matter how large the loss of money is, otherwise the losses will be even greater

Casinos are just offering a service, however when people think about the possibility of making money in this way they get greedy, and that is when things can get out of hand, as they no longer gamble for the fun they could supposedly get, and now they just care about the money they could make, but the casinos are not really at fault for this, as even if they promote themselves by making a point of all the money you could make, it is up to each person to take their time and understand that this is not possible, as if it was then casinos should disappear, but instead what we see is more casinos being created every month.

[junder]

In general, for someone who gambles, the main goal is to make a profit or multiply the money he brings when he visits there.
like the case you described, perhaps only a small number of people actually know that they will lose when gambling, so they use their winnings as a tool to extend the duration of the game there. Actually, in my opinion, it's not good if you play in a casino for too long, because you also remember that you still have family left behind, no matter how rich you are and how much you spend to have fun playing the game.

That is the main goal of all gamblers, I am sure that even someone who gambles with the aim of having fun they will definitely want a win in their heart there is no way they don't want a win. Because the victory in gambling is one of the points of pleasure of every gambler.  There are many gamblers who do not realize that the gambling they do will mostly end in defeat, especially with those who gamble for the sole purpose of making money or winning. People who gamble with the aim of making money or getting a win most likely they will not be able to accept the defeat that is clearly going to happen, and their attitude that cannot accept defeat will make it difficult for themselves.

If they do win, there is a possibility of either withdrawing or continuing the gambling session. But the best choice is to withdraw it because I'm sure we all know that the winnings that have been obtained can be lost again when they continue gambling, because in my opinion they will be more aggressive when gambling after getting a win.

[Gormicsta]

many gambling addicts have lost their minds because their desire to continue gambling overpowers their common sense, hence the importance of "gambling responsibly"

Ironically when there are people who cannot control addiction in gambling, this is just a small example of many gamblers that ended worse and there are some who end their lives because they are in debt when gambling. Gambling is responsible when you are not addicted and when it cannot be controlled, in my opinion it is difficult to be responsible for gambling choices.

The problem is how you put gambling, if done only for fun in spare time is not a problem. But when gambling is done as a substitute for permanent work, this will be far more problematic and it is very difficult to control, the decision is in each of us and as much as possible avoid addiction in gambling.

Gambling addiction is a genuine problem, and as you indicated, it may lead to financial disaster and even suicide. In this instance, they require assistance, which might include regulating the gaming business in such a manner that they are not abused by gambling companies. For example, we may impose limitations on how much money individuals can bet in a certain period of time, or we could force gambling organizations to offer information about the odds of winning. We may also require gaming firms to give responsible gambling training for their staff. Also, to raise awareness about the issues involved, such as the perils of gambling addiction.

[TopTort777]

When was the last time in your life when you saw gambling addicted person? Or have anyone of you ever seen such people? I see a lot of people talk about addicted people, but all they know about them is from reading articles or someone has told them. I have also read about ludomania, but in person never ever seen addicted people. Or maybe from first look it is impossible to tell if person is addicted. I have only see drunk people near offline casinos. But I doubt that they were addicted gamblers.

[Betwrong]

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but one of the major reasons people do involve themselves into online gambling it is because they want to make a money and there's so many people has been helping their self out through online gambling many people does not gamble because they need entertainment but the gamble because they need a quick money so so many people who told you today that they are gambling in order to entertain themselves I will say that that is a capital lies because the objective of every gambler is to make a money I'm making that money to get money is to win in any average of gambling they placed they bet on

It's actually a big question, I mean, why do people gamble? What is the main reason? Yes, everyone wants to win, but how desperate that desire is? Some jump out of the window after losing and others forget about it in a minute or less. I think the latter constitute the majority of gamblers, not the former.

[nullama]

When was the last time in your life when you saw gambling addicted person? Or have anyone of you ever seen such people? I see a lot of people talk about addicted people, but all they know about them is from reading articles or someone has told them. I have also read about ludomania, but in person never ever seen addicted people. Or maybe from first look it is impossible to tell if person is addicted. I have only see drunk people near offline casinos. But I doubt that they were addicted gamblers.

I would say many are gambling daily at the local casino.

Just head into any casino in your city and you will probably see a few addicts there.

Specially if you go late at night, they will be there playing all the time.