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April 01, 2024, 10:43:56 PM
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In general, for someone who gambles, the main goal is to make a profit or multiply the money he brings when he visits there.
like the case you described, perhaps only a small number of people actually know that they will lose when gambling, so they use their winnings as a tool to extend the duration of the game there. Actually, in my opinion, it's not good if you play in a casino for too long, because you also remember that you still have family left behind, no matter how rich you are and how much you spend to have fun playing the game.

That is the main goal of all gamblers, I am sure that even someone who gambles with the aim of having fun they will definitely want a win in their heart there is no way they don't want a win. Because the victory in gambling is one of the points of pleasure of every gambler.  There are many gamblers who do not realize that the gambling they do will mostly end in defeat, especially with those who gamble for the sole purpose of making money or winning. People who gamble with the aim of making money or getting a win most likely they will not be able to accept the defeat that is clearly going to happen, and their attitude that cannot accept defeat will make it difficult for themselves.

If they do win, there is a possibility of either withdrawing or continuing the gambling session. But the best choice is to withdraw it because I'm sure we all know that the winnings that have been obtained can be lost again when they continue gambling, because in my opinion they will be more aggressive when gambling after getting a win.
This loss-chasing thing... It shows a major fault we all have. Our nature is to pursue success, even if it means running into a wall. That wall gives the house an advantage in gambling. But when you win? Knowing when to leave is the real test. Cashing out is sensible, but how many do it? Not many. Because that win proves you can beat a game created to beat you

Gambling should be fun, not a losing war. Expect defeats, and those wins? Consider these a great surprise. That's a better mentality, yet most people seeking wins aren't thinking clearly

Absolutely! The psychological trap of loss-chasing in gambling really does highlight a broader aspect of human nature: our relentless pursuit of success, often against better judgment.
It’s one thing to land a win, but another entirely to pocket that win and call it a day. The thrill of the victory, the proof that “yes, I can win,” often overshadows the cold hard stats that say, “but you’ll likely lose over time.” It’s a test of discipline and self awareness.

Remember, those moments of victory should be savored, but not expected as the norm. A grounded perspective like this keeps the fun in the game and the risks well-managed.

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April 02, 2024, 04:50:18 AM
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There are definitely people like that bro, when he gambles confidently and confidently in the strategy he has and can get a win but ends up losing then it's likely he will look for another strategy to get the win he is after, I mean what all gamblers are after. including gamblers who aim to have fun. Maybe such a person wants to go against the rules that have been firmly established. They only think about the wins that will happen until they put aside the defeats or loss of money that are definitely bound to happen. What you say is true, if we are not affected by defeat it is better, rather than when we experience defeat and cannot accept it well, it will actually cause problems in the future.

Gambling will end in win or loss, only loss is certain. So after that the control is ours. If we misunderstand the results of the gambling that has been done then the possibility of losses or problems that can occur, such as when we win, we realize that we have won but don't take the right action, namely cashing it out, but instead we continue gambling by increasing the bet amount. Of course that's a very big risk. Where the winnings we get can all be lost and if we don't react to it well it's possible that our emotions will overflow. Same goes for the ending of defeat.

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April 02, 2024, 08:20:29 AM
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When was the last time in your life when you saw gambling addicted person? Or have anyone of you ever seen such people? I see a lot of people talk about addicted people, but all they know about them is from reading articles or someone has told them. I have also read about ludomania, but in person never ever seen addicted people. Or maybe from first look it is impossible to tell if person is addicted. I have only see drunk people near offline casinos. But I doubt that they were addicted gamblers.

I would say many are gambling daily at the local casino.

Just head into any casino in your city and you will probably see a few addicts there.

Specially if you go late at night, they will be there playing all the time.

And if I do so, I think I would see more "regular" customers, than addicted gamblers. I think there is a difference between those two. Person can be gambling regularly, but wasnt bringing all his monthly salary as soon as he gets it. Regular gamblers indeed spend a lot of time gambling, but they know when to stop; at least they have a stop button or can pause gambling for time. That is why I say, that I barely see really addicted people. People who only gamble. And I see regular gamblers in offline casinos. People who are often lonely or have nothing to do, and casinos are the place where they get special attitude or "ears" who will always listen to their complains and talks.

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April 02, 2024, 08:41:33 AM
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And if I do so, I think I would see more "regular" customers, than addicted gamblers. I think there is a difference between those two. Person can be gambling regularly, but wasnt bringing all his monthly salary as soon as he gets it. Regular gamblers indeed spend a lot of time gambling, but they know when to stop; at least they have a stop button or can pause gambling for time. That is why I say, that I barely see really addicted people. People who only gamble. And I see regular gamblers in offline casinos. People who are often lonely or have nothing to do, and casinos are the place where they get special attitude or "ears" who will always listen to their complains and talks.

I am not sure some of them actually know when to stop.

There are many, many people that end up in a horrible situation in casinos. And that happens extremely frequently.

People keep losing all their money every day at casinos.
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April 02, 2024, 09:38:23 AM
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It's actually a big question, I mean, why do people gamble? What is the main reason? Yes, everyone wants to win, but how desperate that desire is? Some jump out of the window after losing and others forget about it in a minute or less. I think the latter constitute the majority of gamblers, not the former.

Some people gamble to win and earn a lot of money, others gamble just for fun. Both are gamblers but they have different mindsets. I think most gamblers are the former. Therefore they will jump out of the window or get depressed when they lose. Because they want big prizes they place big bets and when they lose they have spent most of their money on daily needs. This is different if you gamble just for fun. You will stop when your budget runs out and you are not burdened with winning bets.

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April 02, 2024, 10:31:30 AM
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I mostly agree with your post there. But I believe such a question about why people gamble requires some historical context to fully understand where the desire to wager comes from.
The most important part is understanding that in the ancient times (before the last of chances and mathematics were fully developed), the habitants those civilizations believed ramdoness itself was the manifestation of the will of their gods and deities, to them it was not matter of chance, but rather a matter of religion and the will of a bigger force than them.
An equivalent for it would be seeing people of the Christian faith gambling, because they believe Jesus wants them to have money. (I know it would be a contradiction, though).

So the motivations for gambling have not always been the same through the history of humankind. Today, we all have standard motivations, which are very rotted in greed, but it has not always been like that.

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April 02, 2024, 10:31:39 AM
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And if I do so, I think I would see more "regular" customers, than addicted gamblers. I think there is a difference between those two. Person can be gambling regularly, but wasnt bringing all his monthly salary as soon as he gets it. Regular gamblers indeed spend a lot of time gambling, but they know when to stop; at least they have a stop button or can pause gambling for time. That is why I say, that I barely see really addicted people. People who only gamble. And I see regular gamblers in offline casinos. People who are often lonely or have nothing to do, and casinos are the place where they get special attitude or "ears" who will always listen to their complains and talks.

I am not sure some of them actually know when to stop.

There are many, many people that end up in a horrible situation in casinos. And that happens extremely frequently.

People keep losing all their money every day at casinos.

Yeah right, most of the time those who enter the offshore casino losses whatever they are bringing inside though that's much better and not to load more after losing, while those who played onlne the chance that after losing they just add more to the point that they are willing to bring everything in and lose it all together without hesitations, that's how madness can be brought out from a addicted gambler point of view, all in and risk everything in the table.

It's tough as gambling addicted person don't mind anything but to please his gambling and keep doing it and once he don't have any penny to gamble, he can resort to something unusual. Barrowing money or lend to any available sources to the point that they can do crimes just to keep their desire and to fill and please their lust to gamble more.

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April 02, 2024, 02:30:23 PM
 #1988

It's actually a big question, I mean, why do people gamble? What is the main reason? Yes, everyone wants to win, but how desperate that desire is? Some jump out of the window after losing and others forget about it in a minute or less. I think the latter constitute the majority of gamblers, not the former.
Some people gamble to win and earn a lot of money, others gamble just for fun. Both are gamblers but they have different mindsets. I think most gamblers are the former. Therefore they will jump out of the window or get depressed when they lose. Because they want big prizes they place big bets and when they lose they have spent most of their money on daily needs. This is different if you gamble just for fun. You will stop when your budget runs out and you are not burdened with winning bets.
People playing gambling because they wants to makes money. Many people doesn't realizes that playing gambling can't give them money but only gives them losses until they bankrupt. They desperate because of losing the money in gambling and can't win any money and makes them continue playing gambling in the next days. They thinks that if they still playing gambling, they will have a chance to win the gambling games but that doesn't guarantee they can win. They must change their minds to make money from gambling and search for the other ways that can gives them a chance to make money. Playing gambling needs moderately and doesn't have to used much money if they can't accepted the losses that can comes to them. They can used gambling as a way to have fun and entertain them in their spares time so they don't risks too much money in gambling.

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April 02, 2024, 07:09:35 PM
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When was the last time in your life when you saw gambling addicted person? Or have anyone of you ever seen such people? I see a lot of people talk about addicted people, but all they know about them is from reading articles or someone has told them. I have also read about ludomania, but in person never ever seen addicted people. Or maybe from first look it is impossible to tell if person is addicted. I have only see drunk people near offline casinos. But I doubt that they were addicted gamblers.

you have to be intimate to the person to know for sure if they're addicted and if the thing is a problem in their life or not
not so simple at first glance
I talked with people who were addicted online but never met someone in person, at least not to gambling
met addicted people to other things which are more commons and more acessible.

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April 02, 2024, 07:40:18 PM
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It's actually a big question, I mean, why do people gamble? What is the main reason? Yes, everyone wants to win, but how desperate that desire is? Some jump out of the window after losing and others forget about it in a minute or less. I think the latter constitute the majority of gamblers, not the former.
Some people gamble to win and earn a lot of money, others gamble just for fun. Both are gamblers but they have different mindsets. I think most gamblers are the former. Therefore they will jump out of the window or get depressed when they lose. Because they want big prizes they place big bets and when they lose they have spent most of their money on daily needs. This is different if you gamble just for fun. You will stop when your budget runs out and you are not burdened with winning bets.
People playing gambling because they wants to makes money. Many people doesn't realizes that playing gambling can't give them money but only gives them losses until they bankrupt. They desperate because of losing the money in gambling and can't win any money and makes them continue playing gambling in the next days. They thinks that if they still playing gambling, they will have a chance to win the gambling games but that doesn't guarantee they can win. They must change their minds to make money from gambling and search for the other ways that can gives them a chance to make money. Playing gambling needs moderately and doesn't have to used much money if they can't accepted the losses that can comes to them. They can used gambling as a way to have fun and entertain them in their spares time so they don't risks too much money in gambling.

Most of the time I would agree with you that they come to make money, but the problem is that they come to the wrong place where gambling is not a means to make money but nothing more than a game to fill leisure time, so it is only natural that the opposite happens where instead of making money but what happens is that they lose money. They do not realize this fact, and one of the reasons is because from the beginning they are too serious and too focused on the chances of winning so all they think about is the various ways to get a win.

Their biggest mistake is to put their hopes and expectations in a place full of uncertainty, this is gambling which is always unpredictable about the results at the end of the session, all that you will only be able to know when you have completed it which is the result between winning or losing, and if at that time you won then it does not mean that the next time you will win too, It's still unknowable and the occasional win confirms that there is no element of consistency in terms of getting a win in gambling, and yes if you want to earn then it's definitely not gambling the place, it's better for you or whoever it is to look for another place that has a guarantee to be able to really earn.

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April 02, 2024, 08:21:52 PM
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When was the last time in your life when you saw gambling addicted person? Or have anyone of you ever seen such people? I see a lot of people talk about addicted people, but all they know about them is from reading articles or someone has told them. I have also read about ludomania, but in person never ever seen addicted people. Or maybe from first look it is impossible to tell if person is addicted. I have only see drunk people near offline casinos. But I doubt that they were addicted gamblers.

you have to be intimate to the person to know for sure if they're addicted and if the thing is a problem in their life or not
not so simple at first glance
I talked with people who were addicted online but never met someone in person, at least not to gambling
met addicted people to other things which are more commons and more acessible.
That is an excellent point; it might be tough to tell if someone is suffering from a gambling addiction especially if you don't know them well. However, there are several warning indicators to look out for, such as abrupt behavioural changes, unexplained financial difficulties, or becoming more secretive or evasive. If you feel that someone you know is battling with a gambling addiction, approach them with compassion and offer help.

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April 02, 2024, 08:27:14 PM
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When was the last time in your life when you saw gambling addicted person? Or have anyone of you ever seen such people? I see a lot of people talk about addicted people, but all they know about them is from reading articles or someone has told them. I have also read about ludomania, but in person never ever seen addicted people. Or maybe from first look it is impossible to tell if person is addicted. I have only see drunk people near offline casinos. But I doubt that they were addicted gamblers.
Until now I still see people addicted to gambling, even though I don't ask directly continuously but I know how he behaves towards gambling, there is even news from his friends or family that his money always runs out in gambling games that he gets after working for a whole month, meaning that until now there are still people addicted without seeing the news in the article.

This is not a little even a lot from our circle, it's just that they always cover it up by saying they don't gamble every day, it's just an excuse because gambling is now more easily accessible without many people knowing.

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April 02, 2024, 08:32:41 PM
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When was the last time in your life when you saw gambling addicted person? Or have anyone of you ever seen such people? I see a lot of people talk about addicted people, but all they know about them is from reading articles or someone has told them. I have also read about ludomania, but in person never ever seen addicted people. Or maybe from first look it is impossible to tell if person is addicted. I have only see drunk people near offline casinos. But I doubt that they were addicted gamblers.
Until now I still see people addicted to gambling, even though I don't ask directly continuously but I know how he behaves towards gambling, there is even news from his friends or family that his money always runs out in gambling games that he gets after working for a whole month, meaning that until now there are still people addicted without seeing the news in the article.

This is not a little even a lot from our circle, it's just that they always cover it up by saying they don't gamble every day, it's just an excuse because gambling is now more easily accessible without many people knowing.

I have never understood what these guys think when they go and leave their whole salary in gambling through slot machines and other luck games.Not longer than yesterday I was reading in Stake chat that someone had 1000 EUR rent and over 500 EUR bills yet he thought it was more important to gamble and I don't know if he pays his bills regularly though I am assuming no based on his bet id-s shared there he was playing with huge amount of bet in slot machines buying the bonuses mostly through Pragmatic Play and Hacksaw Gaming which are some of the hardest providers to keep you in the winning loop consistently.

So yes although not in the news these type of guys exist and they are some of us  Grin.

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April 02, 2024, 08:57:29 PM
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When was the last time in your life when you saw gambling addicted person? Or have anyone of you ever seen such people? I see a lot of people talk about addicted people, but all they know about them is from reading articles or someone has told them. I have also read about ludomania, but in person never ever seen addicted people. Or maybe from first look it is impossible to tell if person is addicted. I have only see drunk people near offline casinos. But I doubt that they were addicted gamblers.
Until now I still see people addicted to gambling, even though I don't ask directly continuously but I know how he behaves towards gambling, there is even news from his friends or family that his money always runs out in gambling games that he gets after working for a whole month, meaning that until now there are still people addicted without seeing the news in the article.

This is not a little even a lot from our circle, it's just that they always cover it up by saying they don't gamble every day, it's just an excuse because gambling is now more easily accessible without many people knowing.

Addicted gamblers are seen across every neighborhood where gambling shops or casinos exist. They share almost similar stranded looks, when trying to seek for financial help. I've also watched players change from addiction to not gambling at all. Although, some gamblers whom I know bet on video games, and they're addicted to doing this, however, they sometimes tend to stop. In addition, most experiences were read online, because associating with addicts isn't something I'd pick as a hobby or thing I like doing. Unless the player reaches out for help on ways to stop being addicted, then I could be of help. Some addicts in our neighborhood, while growing up were so buried in addiction that their family had to disclose the problem to a wider range of listeners. Yet those moves never made any changes on the player, they still try as much as possible to continue player, regardless of what people think about them in the society.

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April 03, 2024, 07:17:23 AM
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Addicted gamblers are seen across every neighborhood where gambling shops or casinos exist. They share almost similar stranded looks, when trying to seek for financial help. I've also watched players change from addiction to not gambling at all. Although, some gamblers whom I know bet on video games, and they're addicted to doing this, however, they sometimes tend to stop. In addition, most experiences were read online, because associating with addicts isn't something I'd pick as a hobby or thing I like doing. Unless the player reaches out for help on ways to stop being addicted, then I could be of help. Some addicts in our neighborhood, while growing up were so buried in addiction that their family had to disclose the problem to a wider range of listeners. Yet those moves never made any changes on the player, they still try as much as possible to continue player, regardless of what people think about them in the society.

I am not sure that every addicted gambler shows their addiction to the outside world.

In many cases it can just be something that is deep down. You basically need to watch their behavior, not how they look.
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April 03, 2024, 08:21:44 AM
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Until now I still see people addicted to gambling, even though I don't ask directly continuously but I know how he behaves towards gambling, there is even news from his friends or family that his money always runs out in gambling games that he gets after working for a whole month, meaning that until now there are still people addicted without seeing the news in the article.

Yes, it is the madness of a gambling addict that will destroy your life and that of your family. I also have a friend who works hard but unfortunately he spends his money just to gamble. He is not married so he has no responsibilities to his family. But he had debts and that was also used for gambling. His hard work is just for gambling. It's a shame because it means he has ruined his future. It's a shame when he spends his money on gambling instead of investing.

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April 03, 2024, 08:43:35 AM
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When was the last time in your life when you saw gambling addicted person? Or have anyone of you ever seen such people? I see a lot of people talk about addicted people, but all they know about them is from reading articles or someone has told them. I have also read about ludomania, but in person never ever seen addicted people. Or maybe from first look it is impossible to tell if person is addicted. I have only see drunk people near offline casinos. But I doubt that they were addicted gamblers.

you have to be intimate to the person to know for sure if they're addicted and if the thing is a problem in their life or not
not so simple at first glance
I talked with people who were addicted online but never met someone in person, at least not to gambling
met addicted people to other things which are more commons and more acessible.

That is a good catch. Sometimes it is hard to tell who person is by how he looks. People have stereotypes. For them gambling is always bad, and addicted gambler is always a person dressed dirty or badly, a typical bum. While real addicted gambler is a well dressed Cheesy Because that person must look presentable, otherwise it will be hard for him to get more and new money. To be quite honest, the only addicted people I ever saw were long time ago, back in school times. These were video games addicted kids, who skip school. Who spent all lunch money in computer clubs, or run home to play as soon as parents leave to work.

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April 03, 2024, 12:45:23 PM
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Most of the time I would agree with you that they come to make money, but the problem is that they come to the wrong place where gambling is not a means to make money but nothing more than a game to fill leisure time, so it is only natural that the opposite happens where instead of making money but what happens is that they lose money. They do not realize this fact, and one of the reasons is because from the beginning they are too serious and too focused on the chances of winning so all they think about is the various ways to get a win.

Their biggest mistake is to put their hopes and expectations in a place full of uncertainty, this is gambling which is always unpredictable about the results at the end of the session, all that you will only be able to know when you have completed it which is the result between winning or losing, and if at that time you won then it does not mean that the next time you will win too, It's still unknowable and the occasional win confirms that there is no element of consistency in terms of getting a win in gambling, and yes if you want to earn then it's definitely not gambling the place, it's better for you or whoever it is to look for another place that has a guarantee to be able to really earn.
They comes to the wrong place to make money because without they realize, that will only caused them losing more money. If they can used gambling for having fun and not thinks about winning the games, they will not have to lose much money. They can used their free time to playing gambling and relax their minds while they can also control their loses with limiting their money and time. It's normal if they feel regrets because of their losing but they can reduce their losing not to becomes bigger by limiting their money. But that's only for some gamblers while the other gamblers still thinks that they will used more money to recovers their lost.

When someone have hopes and expectations in gambling, they will see that they can't makes it happens because gambling is not place to make money. Playing gambling is uncertainty and we must be careful if we don't wants to lose much money. If you can limits your money to playing gambling, you don't have to lose all of the money. We can win although it's difficult but that doesn't means we must try so hard to playing gambling because win the gambling games is difficult. If you want to make money, you must search for the other place that can gives you a chance to make money. You can only used gambling to have fun in your free time while you should not thinks about winning the gambling games.

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April 03, 2024, 12:54:32 PM
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Addicted gamblers are seen across every neighborhood where gambling shops or casinos exist. They share almost similar stranded looks, when trying to seek for financial help. I've also watched players change from addiction to not gambling at all. Although, some gamblers whom I know bet on video games, and they're addicted to doing this, however, they sometimes tend to stop. In addition, most experiences were read online, because associating with addicts isn't something I'd pick as a hobby or thing I like doing. Unless the player reaches out for help on ways to stop being addicted, then I could be of help. Some addicts in our neighborhood, while growing up were so buried in addiction that their family had to disclose the problem to a wider range of listeners. Yet those moves never made any changes on the player, they still try as much as possible to continue player, regardless of what people think about them in the society.

I am not sure that every addicted gambler shows their addiction to the outside world.

In many cases it can just be something that is deep down. You basically need to watch their behavior, not how they look.
Indeed, there are quite a few cases where addicts live with the disguise of a civilized person, they have cooperative relationships and chat with people almost without a gap but on nights where there are matches or mysterious places to gamble, they peel off the outer shell and go crazy with their inspiration, sometimes just casual contact cannot guess that they are debtors who lack money to gamble and start mortgaging their assets. Therefore, in society we should pay attention to the behavior of certain types of people, sometimes some standards do not match, they reveal their addiction and let their behavior cause bad things.

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April 03, 2024, 01:09:24 PM
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Yes, it is the madness of a gambling addict that will destroy your life and that of your family. I also have a friend who works hard but unfortunately he spends his money just to gamble. He is not married so he has no responsibilities to his family. But he had debts and that was also used for gambling. His hard work is just for gambling. It's a shame because it means he has ruined his future. It's a shame when he spends his money on gambling instead of investing.
A person like that will be very difficult to recover, especially if you invite him to invest when he has money from the results of his hard work. Or it could be that he is addicted because he has won several times in large amounts so that he starts to be willing to spend more and more on gambling without making a more careful calculation of his own finances. And people who are addicted like that usually don't really think about their own future because their minds are only focused on gambling and gambling.

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