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April 28, 2023, 12:24:46 PM
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Court sentences mother, son to 7 years imprisonment and what did they do? Court sentences mother, son to 7 years imprisonment


The mother and the son after gambling away 5.6 million naira, that is about $8,000. When the reality dawned on them, they gave false information in petition, accusing someone of fraudulently transferring the fund from their Opay account to the sport betting account without their authorization.

Could this be a case of making someone pay for what they didn't eat or a case of double standard.

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April 28, 2023, 12:35:10 PM
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They are very lucky that they can pay a fine if 150000 naira each.

People are just greedy and only looking for ways to warm money. Even if that is what they want to achieve, no through something risky like gambling.

The mother and the son after gambling away 5.6 million naira, that is about $8,000. When the reality dawned on them, they gave false information in petition, accusing someone of fraudulently transferring the fund from their Opay account to the sport betting account without their authorization.
When the gambling site account can be traced to the bank that they use for deposit to know the whole truth. Some people just want to play smart when they are not smart with information.

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April 28, 2023, 12:36:52 PM
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Could this be a case of making someone pay for what they didn't eat or a case of double standard.

It's a case of being in denial. This attitude is common among children, where you tell them that if they keep running like crazy they will fall and hurt themselves, but they ignore you, keep on running, until they fall and hit the floor. Then of course they cry, but when you ask what happened they say nothing. You ask about a lump on their forehead and they answer that there's nothing there, they weren't running and they did not fall. They know that they weren't listening and you were right, but they won't admit it.
The best part about it is that if you confront them they'll keep denying until you touch the lump and they feel the pain. Then they get their reality check and start crying again, because they know they can't hide the proof that they did this to themselves.

We all have our own ways of dealing with problems. Some will shut down, some will deny, some will get aggressive, some will run away. Such is life.


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April 28, 2023, 12:39:00 PM
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How can two persons be so addicted to gambling that they'll go to such an extent? Apparently the mother is definitely not a good role model to the son. The son definitely needs a strong father figure which is what he lacks. I don't like the punishment or fine give  to them. It is not going to be in anyway effective. Their punishment could have been rehabilitation and community service.

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April 28, 2023, 12:43:28 PM
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Compulsive gamblers are like that they will deny wrongdoing they will deny that they are hooked on gambling and they will deny that they gambling too much, they are pathological liars and we have a saying here in our country that thieves and liars are relatives, you can easily tell a compulsive gambler to a responsible one, they cannot stand to what is right and very prone to lie, so this is what happens to the mother and her son.

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April 28, 2023, 12:44:56 PM
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Court sentences mother, son to 7 years imprisonment and what did they do? Court sentences mother, son to 7 years imprisonment
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The mother and the son after gambling away 5.6 million naira, that is about $8,000. When the reality dawned on them, they gave false information in petition, accusing someone of fraudulently transferring the fund from their Opay account to the sport betting account without their authorization.

Could this be a case of making someone pay for what they didn't eat or a case of double standard.

Bet as you can sustain and not allow your emotions have a better part of you.
As much as I try not to, there are instances where you can't just help but blame something, or someone, anything really for that matter that just pops up in your vision and you have that urge to blame it regardless of its innocence. Ofc I'm fully aware of what I do and what I gamble with, unlike OP's case here which is more apt to be called "putting the blame" to someone else instead of blaming someone. At least, to what my understanding of what those words mean, that's well, what it means.

Kinda dumb as a petition though. I mean, I reckon it should be pretty easy to find traces (plus most gambling related stuff need KYC nowadays).

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April 28, 2023, 12:50:47 PM
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I don't like the punishment or fine give  to them. It is not going to be in anyway effective. Their punishment could have been rehabilitation and community service.

I don't like the aspect of option of meagre fine aspunishment either. That is exactly my challenge on this crime that I can't get my head over with. Some punitive measures are just as good as not pronounced because they don't in any way measure with offenses. I have some issues with some legal system because I think a punishment is suppose to wade people off a certain crime, what is pecuniary fine of 150,000 (about $210) as option against a jail term of 7 years or a crime of squandering $8,000 do to prevent future perjurers in gambling crimes.

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April 28, 2023, 12:52:14 PM
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Could this be a case of making someone pay for what they didn't eat or a case of double standard.
If the woman and her son had a way of manipulating things on the accused, that fellow would have paid dearly for what he or she knows nothing about. This is purely a case of accusation that would have resulted into making someone else pay for what wasn't eaten by he or her. It can't be a case of double standard because no one is getting any special treatment rather the offender is paying for the crime the committed

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April 28, 2023, 12:55:30 PM
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Kinda dumb as a petition though. I mean, I reckon it should be pretty easy to find traces (plus most gambling related stuff need KYC nowadays).

I bet they are just taking their chances to use the law to recover their losses since this kind of incident is really happening that hacker use someone bank account to purchase online or gamble.

I believe they have a family history of being a compulsive gambler because they can pretend that they really hacked if they don’t have history of gambling. KYC is not an issue since they loss the money and probably casino doesn’t asked them to do KYC since they didn’t manage to withdraw the funds. KYC typically applied when they already want to withdraw the funds. I think the prosecution evidence on this case are their family  background since a mother and son not typically joining together to gamble if they didn’t do this most of the time.

With this, they just waste money on fine or jail time instead of just accepting the losses.

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April 28, 2023, 12:57:18 PM
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Court sentences mother, son to 7 years imprisonment and what did they do? Court sentences mother, son to 7 years imprisonment


The mother and the son after gambling away 5.6 million naira, that is about $8,000. When the reality dawned on them, they gave false information in petition, accusing someone of fraudulently transferring the fund from their Opay account to the sport betting account without their authorization.

Could this be a case of making someone pay for what they didn't eat or a case of double standard.

Bet as you can sustain and not allow your emotions have a better part of you.


It was undoubtedly foolish as both mother and son should have been thoroughly betted when making gambling investments. But they directly invested almost $8000 in Nigerian currency Nairo in Sportsbetting without due diligence. I don't know what legal action can be taken if someone gives wrong information and loses betting without checking it.
But I don't follow anyone's information in gambling, if someone has given me any information in sports betting, I must have checked it carefully before following it. As every gambling has ricks and these ricks will be borne only by the user himself. It would not be reasonable to impose this liability on anyone else in the event of a loss, and every gambler must be 18 plus years of age.

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April 28, 2023, 12:58:15 PM
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Excessive addiction sometimes makes people unable to control themselves and use logic properly, for example like this mother and son. We can't really blame them for their addiction to easy money as we really don't know their background doing that. But one thing for sure, making a false report is something that is not allowed, we must be responsible for what we have done.

Going back to the question given by the OP, Do You Blame Someone For Your Gambling Losses?

Sometimes. Because there are several conditions that make me supposed to win but I fail to win due to external circumstances, like my friend who doesn't advise me to play in certain matches but I really believe that I will win. In the end I didn't place the bet and realized if I had just placed I should have won. Isn't this my friend's fault? LOL.

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April 28, 2023, 01:00:44 PM
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How can two persons be so addicted to gambling that they'll go to such an extent?
They started slowly with not being able to control themselves with gambling away small amounts till it finished, it is why as they were exposed to such a large amount they became unable to control themselves.

If you can question this people and ask them how they gambled aways that kind of money without realising it or stopping themselves, they will say they did not know when. This is the height of addiction.

As individuals we should be careful entrusting money to people who we know have a gambling problem.


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April 28, 2023, 01:11:13 PM
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Compulsive gamblers are like that they will deny wrongdoing they will deny that they are hooked on gambling and they will deny that they gambling too much, they are pathological liars and we have a saying here in our country that thieves and liars are relatives, you can easily tell a compulsive gambler to a responsible one, they cannot stand to what is right and very prone to lie, so this is what happens to the mother and her son.
Seems like they have done this before and it’s only today that they were luckily caught. It only proves that no matter how smart you are, rules will always be rules, and you can’t get rid of it so you can free yourself and continue gambling. Though it’s safe to gamble as long as you are using your own funds, but in this case, the mother and son have really set their plan but unfortunately, they fail to succeed this time. And even if they can fined theirselves and become free again, I believe these two gamblers will never get rid of gambling.

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April 28, 2023, 01:17:37 PM
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This is expected when you tried a compulsive gambler they will create twisted stories, it goes with the character, compulsive gamblers are liars when you tried them in court, but this is a court they will eventually convict because the prosecutors can easily find evidence based on the story,
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The mother and child pleaded guilty to the charges.
I guess they were advised by their lawyers to admit to the crime for a lighter sentence because denying will put more jail time in their case.

This is a very sad story we don't want any of our family to be deprived of liberty now we have mother and son spending time in jail.
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April 28, 2023, 01:18:59 PM
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Yes, I blame someone.

Especially for the people who are playing at "Blackjack" tables Grin play with basic strategy because it's f*cking make me mad if they not playing with basic strategy. Scared to hitting, while in the book they should hitting.

Because of these lack knowledge player, can make me lose. I want to punch him in the face ~XD

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April 28, 2023, 01:31:36 PM
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They probably thought it was like a console game where there is a save point and load point to reset the game and do it again. Blame it to others and maybe we will have a chance to go back and gamble. They are lucky the fine was lower than the spent amount which leaves me in a curious mind.
Anyway, that's another gambling news that will be difficult to forget. Trying to get away from responsibilities is really something in the trend these days.

I never blamed anyone from my own gambling hobby.
There was a time I let a friend bet for me because I have no idea how the game works. It lost for quite an amount but I told him it was okay and we just used the remaining money to drink beers instead of losing more. We just had fun talking about it and him teaching me how the game works.

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April 28, 2023, 02:33:19 PM
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Whoever the person is if they are trapped in a case, of course blaming/slandering other people is a trick that is often used by criminals, especially when this case involves money and gambling, even though Oluwayemisi & Samuel have admitted the error of the legal process continues, because they have made a fake Petition to the EFCC for their actions.

They should have tried to get permission first from the EFCC, before withdrawing money from their sports betting account, if this went wrong, penalties and fines were waiting for them. because they know their country has rules about finance, crime, money laundering and so on, they should be aware of that.

Bet as you can sustain and not allow your emotions have a better part of you.
yes, they should have thought about that, there are many ways they can withdraw money from their betting accounts, without having to get ahead of their emotions. if they think that the money has other people's rights and their rights, of course it's safer.

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April 28, 2023, 03:12:09 PM
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I didn't understand one thing: did they make up this whole story due to gambling being illegal in Nigeria, therefore they couldn't been spotted as gamblers by authorities, or did they do this simply because they wanted to retrieve the lost money?

If it falls under the first case, I don't blame mother and son, as I believe gambling is an individual decision of each person. Governments and regulators shouldn't forbid the activity or punish people for gambling. However, if it falls under the second case, I blame them, because they were acting maliciously to retrieve a money they didn't have any right over it anymore, since they voluntarily played a game of luck and lost it.

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April 28, 2023, 03:19:36 PM
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They are very lucky that they can pay a fine if 150000 naira each.

People are just greedy and only looking for ways to warm money. Even if that is what they want to achieve, no through something risky like gambling.
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I wonder why such a lenient punishment? In fact, this is a financial fraud and in most countries such tricks are subject to criminal penalties. It seems to me that the punishment is incomparable with the amount that they could "win" if they had not been caught. For me it is illogical and I think that it encourages scammers instead of punish them.

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April 28, 2023, 03:20:42 PM
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I think they're just trying to save themselves from huge losses but what they did have brought them into a worse situation. The truth will always prevail no matter how we cover up our mistakes. Blaming someone else isn't a good idea and it couldn't even save us from our huge losses. We are only dragging ourselves to bad situations more. It will be better to control ourselves or just accept losses in case we lose our funds since that's a part of gambling. We can't blame others if we are the ones who are making wrong decisions.
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