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September 20, 2023, 11:38:03 PM
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Manchester United beating Bayern Munich in Germany is not a totally impossible in the world of football. Why th person made such a statement is that the current form of Manchester United is not something that is encouraging. If Manchester United should be on their prime, there is no club they cannot beat, be it home or away. In the other hand Bayern Munich is not even that club we used to know some seasons ago. They are strategically trying to come back to their old form, which they have not attend to currently.

After today’s match, I now have a different feeling about this two clubs. Manchester United should not be underestimated despite their poor form in the league currently. Maybe as the popular notion goes had effect in this match, which says; champions league is different from the domestic league.

Before this match, I was of the opinion that Bayern Munich will easily beat Manchester United and they won’t even dare try to come close or equalise, I was expecting like a two goals margin at least, but at the end it was not the case.

Bayern Munich have also proved to me that they’re still on the process of recovering and not at their prime as they’ve always been in the champions league. This has not still change the chances of Bayern Munich tipping their group stage but their next match (the 2nd leg) against Manchester United will be unpredictable at Old Trafford.

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September 20, 2023, 11:44:10 PM
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Manchester United beating Bayern Munich in Germany is not a totally impossible in the world of football. Why th person made such a statement is that the current form of Manchester United is not something that is encouraging. If Manchester United should be on their prime, there is no club they cannot beat, be it home or away. In the other hand Bayern Munich is not even that club we used to know some seasons ago. They are strategically trying to come back to their old form, which they have not attend to currently.
Manchester United were underrated because of the poor performance they keep recording in EPL. Who would have thought the Red Devils will net three goals against the hyped Bavarians, absolutely nobody. There was a chance for an equalizer but manchester united goal keeper, Andre Onana committed blunders that made them concede unexpected goals in the game. Perhaps Onana acknowledged it and would look for more exploring options to triggered, they're targeting best results this season, and they will definitely get prepared for it.
True, it's caused by the bad performance in EPL would be greatly affecting the performance from manchester united in UCL but i need to say that if it we don't even know what kind of match that will happen once MU would face a club from different league.
I meant a club from different club will not a hundred percent knew the strategy used by united or familiar with it.

This is actually different compared to when MU was facing brighton. Brighton can understand well which side has become the main weakness from manchester united at this moment. Brighton's gameplay was not as bad as bayern.
I must admit if brighton is an even harder opponent compared with bayern at this moment. MU was almost making it draw but in fact, bayern was having 4 goals which is making manchester united needs to accept.
Hojlund has been scoring a goal, which is good since it was a few matches from his debut. He can become the main striker for manchester united. The chance for united to go to the play off stage is still big consider it's going back to the right track.


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September 20, 2023, 11:45:10 PM
 #5043

Manchester United beating Bayern Munich in Germany is not a totally impossible in the world of football. Why th person made such a statement is that the current form of Manchester United is not something that is encouraging. If Manchester United should be on their prime, there is no club they cannot beat, be it home or away. In the other hand Bayern Munich is not even that club we used to know some seasons ago. They are strategically trying to come back to their old form, which they have not attend to currently.
Manchester United were underrated because of the poor performance they keep recording in EPL. Who would have thought the Red Devils will net three goals against the hyped Bavarians, absolutely nobody. There was a chance for an equalizer but manchester united goal keeper, Andre Onana committed blunders that made them concede unexpected goals in the game. Perhaps Onana acknowledged it and would look for more exploring options to triggered, they're targeting best results this season, and they will definitely get prepared for it.
I think they are not being underestimated in the Champions League this season, especially since they have just returned to the Champions League, of course the spirit of Manchester United players is quite high. It's just that Bayern Munich experienced a decline in performance in the second half which allowed Manchester United to score 3 goals.

Onana is not very consistent, he often moves in situations he shouldn't. I think he should be able to control his instinct level which is quicker to catch the ball rather than continuing to make blunders.
 However, the final result was in favor of the hosts where they were able to get 3 points at home which made them temporary leaders in Group A.

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September 20, 2023, 11:52:34 PM
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At the moment when Karim Benzema left Real Madrid, I thought Real Madrid would have hard days because of losing this player in this season.
Especially when we know they had to race in the Champions League against stronger teams.
But Jude Bellingham had an amazing performance in this team so far, and luckily in the last minutes of the game, he scored a goal in this match.
Although Real Madrid won the game but I find a very late and single goal insufficient for a team like Real Madrid facing a team like Union Berlin which isn't that top this season which make things worse.
Real Madrid need to be convincing and score more goals. I wonder know what they could do if Bellingham was injured or carded..

Lol Madrid almost disappointed the fans fortunately the goal came in the last minute and saved them  Cheesy again, Bellingham is a player who can be relied on in crucial situations, now everyone knows that Bellingham is the most valuable player for Madrid. In my other match, Munich managed to win but I was surprised that Manchester United could score 3 goals Even though at first I thought this would be an easy win for Munich lol.

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September 20, 2023, 11:58:23 PM
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Although Real Madrid won the game but I find a very late and single goal insufficient for a team like Real Madrid facing a team like Union Berlin which isn't that top this season which make things worse. Real Madrid need to be convincing and score more goals. I wonder know what they could do if Bellingham was injured or carded..
Oh, I'll continue your thought further Wink What would the Real Madrid players have done if the ball hadn't successfully bounced to Bellingham at the end of the match? I really feel sorry for the Union Berlin players that they could not endure a little bit until the final whistle of the referee and get a draw and one point in the standings. Despite all the advantage of Real Madrid in the second half, the Berliners defended the whole match with dignity. And yes, I will not call Union Berlin the strongest team, and if Real Madrid wants to achieve something this season in the Champions League, then the team needs to urgently strengthen the game when it really has to play with the strongest teams.
Union berlin was just unlucky at the end of match, berlin's defensive line is very solid against madrid but the deflected ball was going to the bellingham instead of other berlin's players. I meant real madrid was lucky enough caused by bellingham was in the right position to receive the deflected ball. Berlin could get draw if the club was just building the great wall at the end of match. Im feeling bad for berlin. It's almost making it to get draw in santiago bernabeu.
Berlin's goal keeper was also performing so well against real madrid. 1 goal is enough in making madrid to be on the top position of its group. I thought that berlin was also very strong.
Berlin may do revenge once madrid will be playing away. Madrid's performance was so poor without vini on its winger side. I may able to see vini to play at the second leg of this group. Madrid looked like a bit weak without him.

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September 20, 2023, 11:59:10 PM
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As for Onana, I believe he is a solid keeper but he is under a lot of pressure right now to deliver and the more mistakes he makes, the more pressure he gets and the more he fumbles. It's like a downward spiral for him right now and except Ten hag does something to fix his defensive team including Onana, they'll continue to suffer from defensive mistakes and errors.

He’s a great goalie and you’re right. He was brought in to the squad with a lot of expectations from fans and management hence why he’s probably under a lot of pressure right now. Man United’s defense too isn’t making things better for him also as they share some blame in all this.
With more pressure mounting on him to protect the goal at all costs, more mistakes are bound to happen and the sooner Ten Hag fixes these problems, they’ll have to deal with loosing more games.
Onana has owned up to his mistakes in this match and hopefully, he does learn from it.
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September 21, 2023, 12:14:11 AM
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This is never the Manchester united that I used  to know, If ETH doesn't do anything concerning the goalkeeper I see Manchester going down, in my own point of view I see the team trying to make things right in teams of defence, tactics, passion to fight but the goalkeeper let them down everytime.

The best idea for Manchester United right now is to buy a new goalkeeper and start back from where they stopped. Besides is never too late for Manchester united
This is a bit hilarious, were you expecting Man Utd to defeat FC Bayern Munich at home?, with the kind of performance we saw them display lately, No way mate, if at all I was expecting them to perform well not actually in their game against Bayern Munich.
It is impossible for Manchester United to win Bayern at home which I said before the match started and it has never happened for long. Bayern proved themselves today that they still remain unbeaten at home by their brilliant performance in today's game, by winning United with one goal ahead.

On the other hand I must confess that since the beginning of this season, this is the most impressive performance that Manchester United have shown. They were fighting to draw the match but luck wasn't on their side because the moment United scores to cancel one goal, Bayern will retaliate back.

FC Bayern munich were aggressive from the start which made them fight hard till the end of the match. But Manchester United and they tried hard to equalize the match but could not succeed in any way. FC Bayern munchen lead by one goal in the last minute although both teams attacked a lot but luckily manchester united lost despite trying hard enough to succeed.
Moments before half-time, Manchester United did not see a goal but FC Bayern Munchen found two goals, but for a long time, Manchester United just resisted. A last-minute attack brought some success for the team and the match remained 4-3.

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September 21, 2023, 12:21:02 AM
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At the moment when Karim Benzema left Real Madrid, I thought Real Madrid would have hard days because of losing this player in this season.
Especially when we know they had to race in the Champions League against stronger teams.
But Jude Bellingham had an amazing performance in this team so far, and luckily in the last minutes of the game, he scored a goal in this match.
Although Real Madrid won the game but I find a very late and single goal insufficient for a team like Real Madrid facing a team like Union Berlin which isn't that top this season which make things worse.
Real Madrid need to be convincing and score more goals. I wonder know what they could do if Bellingham was injured or carded..

Lol Madrid almost disappointed the fans fortunately the goal came in the last minute and saved them  Cheesy again, Bellingham is a player who can be relied on in crucial situations, now everyone knows that Bellingham is the most valuable player for Madrid. In my other match, Munich managed to win but I was surprised that Manchester United could score 3 goals Even though at first I thought this would be an easy win for Munich lol.
Madrid fans are seeing him as a hero right now. There's no doubt caused by bellingham was always showing his usefulness once the game was almost end. This is also happening very often in la liga as well about how bellingham was always scoring in the additional time to help madrid to win the game. This attacking midfielder was so crazy. Madrid's striker is so garbage right now. I can't even imagine seeing madrid play without bellingham. This will become a disaster for the club.

Imagine bellingham, vini and rodrygo will be injured together. There will be a massive decline in the performance of real madrid especially on its attacking line at this moment.
It's shocked me when bellingham was scoring in the last minutes before the end of game. It's crazy.

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September 21, 2023, 12:32:57 AM
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As for Onana, I believe he is a solid keeper but he is under a lot of pressure right now to deliver and the more mistakes he makes, the more pressure he gets and the more he fumbles. It's like a downward spiral for him right now and except Ten hag does something to fix his defensive team including Onana, they'll continue to suffer from defensive mistakes and errors.
Onana does not have good saving skills like David De Gea and his matches for Manchester United in Premier League show that statistics. In a match with Bayern Munich, his saving skills are shown again in the first conceded goal. He should save that shot better than making a goal for Bayern Munich. If the goalkeeper is De Gea, Bayern Munich shot would be blocked safely.

Onana helps Manchester United to passing balls from their defense area better than David De Gea but a most important skill for a goalkeeper should be saving.

With more pressure mounting on him to protect the goal at all costs, more mistakes are bound to happen and the sooner Ten Hag fixes these problems, they’ll have to deal with loosing more games.
Onana has owned up to his mistakes in this match and hopefully, he does learn from it.
At the age of Onana, his skills are already solid and hardly to be changed or improved too much. Like we can not ask De Gea to improve his passing skills too much, so same for Onanan with saving skills. Ten Hag and Manchester United already chose Onana because they need a goalkeeper with good passing skills. In return they have to exchange it with a bit worse of saving skills.

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September 21, 2023, 12:40:04 AM
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FC Bayern munich were aggressive from the start which made them fight hard till the end of the match. But Manchester United and they tried hard to equalize the match but could not succeed in any way. FC Bayern munchen lead by one goal in the last minute although both teams attacked a lot but luckily manchester united lost despite trying hard enough to succeed.
Moments before half-time, Manchester United did not see a goal but FC Bayern Munchen found two goals, but for a long time, Manchester United just resisted. A last-minute attack brought some success for the team and the match remained 4-3.

In fact, Manchester United's performance in this match was quite good, but unfortunately they did not do anything in the first half to match the pressure exerted by Bayern Munich. Bayern Munich under the guidance of Tuchel of course they have a pretty strong mentality in the Champions League this season. I didn't see any strong enough changes made by Erik Ten Hag in this match because he was so afraid to give a new sensation if he did.

Well, I was amazed by Harry Kane performance in this match because he faced the EPL team again in the Champions League, of course he has great instincts to beat the EPL team. Because he managed to contribute 1 goal and 1 assist in this match, but I saw him have several golden opportunities but his shot was still blocked by Onana.

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September 21, 2023, 01:03:34 AM
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In fact, Manchester United's performance in this match was quite good, but unfortunately they did not do anything in the first half to match the pressure exerted by Bayern Munich. Bayern Munich under the guidance of Tuchel of course they have a pretty strong mentality in the Champions League this season. I didn't see any strong enough changes made by Erik Ten Hag in this match because he was so afraid to give a new sensation if he did.
I don't consider it as a good performance from Manchester United. They lost the match at the end is important result and they even faced with a bigger loss if Bayern Munich make their shots better. The final result looks to tight between two clubs but in fact Manchester United found very too late goals which did not help them to make this defeat looks better. If you don't watch the match or the highlight, simply look at the final result, you will think they have a balanced match with Bayern Munich but in fact Bayern Munich dominated the match. In early of second half, Bayern Munich got some opportunities to destroy Manchester United with a tennis result but they wasted those chances.

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Well, I was amazed by Harry Kane performance in this match because he faced the EPL team again in the Champions League, of course he has great instincts to beat the EPL team. Because he managed to contribute 1 goal and 1 assist in this match, but I saw him have several golden opportunities but his shot was still blocked by Onana.
Harry Kane played in Premier League many years and is a second best scorer in history of Premier League. He faced with Manchester United many times so he has enough experience with Manchester United and understand the opponent well. Beating Manchester United can help Bayern Munich to open a gate to get a first position in this group and can complete their tasks in this group a little bit sooner.

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September 21, 2023, 01:14:27 AM
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Sevilla vs Lens.

In this match, Sevilla is superior with odds @1.91. but I suspect, there won't be many goals in this match. I predicted in the previous post that the match would at least end with a score of 0-0 or 1-1. but to prevent something unexpected, for example Lens was able to overthrow Sevilla. So, I speculate the ideal bet with a handicap option of +05 odds @1.87. and yep, this match ended with a score of 1-1.


I thought we might be able to see a winner in this match. But to be honest the match was quite even. Probably this is the best and most deserved result of this match. The deadlock was broken pretty early in this match. Sevilla was able to break the deadlock in the ninth minute of the match. Lens was able to equalise in the 24th minute. Fulgini scored the goal for Lens. There was a definite possibility that the match would end like this. And that is exactly what happened. But in my personal opinion, Sevilla should have scored another goal in this match.



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September 21, 2023, 01:14:44 AM
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I have to say Inter hasn't displayed good performance yesterday that since the beginning of match Inter was playing under pressure and surprisingly Sociedad can performing so well that in the first half they got several attempts to scored and i think Inter was lucky because they didn't lose at that time and this is unsatisfactory result from Inter because before the match begin they are the favourite to win the match and the records 7 winning streak from Inter have to stopped in this match

On the other hand Arsenal has starting this season with fantastic performance that they have been humiliated PSV with huge scores 4-0 and playing at home Arsenal have already leading the game 3-0 in the first half and this make them so comfortable to ended the match and collect 3 points and i think Trossard deserved to called as man of the match because besides he scored goal he also the creator of Jesus goal

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I don't consider it as a good performance from Manchester United. They lost the match at the end is important result and they even faced with a bigger loss if Bayern Munich make their shots better. The final result looks to tight between two clubs but in fact Manchester United found very too late goals which did not help them to make this defeat looks better. If you don't watch the match or the highlight, simply look at the final result, you will think they have a balanced match with Bayern Munich but in fact Bayern Munich dominated the match. In early of second half, Bayern Munich got some opportunities to destroy Manchester United with a tennis result but they wasted those chances.

Harry Kane played in Premier League many years and is a second best scorer in history of Premier League. He faced with Manchester United many times so he has enough experience with Manchester United and understand the opponent well. Beating Manchester United can help Bayern Munich to open a gate to get a first position in this group and can complete their tasks in this group a little bit sooner.
Bayern Munich is a big opponent for Manchester United because these two teams have had a very different balance in recent seasons. Manchester United, which had good progress last season, seems like their performance this season could be said to have dropped drastically because in the domestic league they were not able to put up much resistance, let alone in the Champions League. To be honest, Erik Ten Hag has done a better job since he came to Manchester United, but he has struggled to develop his potential due to not being able to recruit quality stars in the transfer window due to being given a small budget.

Different from Bayern Munich, they were able to strengthen their squad quite perfectly both from the front line, midfield and also brought in a new goalkeeper. I agree with you that Manchester United could have conceded a lot of goals in this match because many of the shots taken by the Bayern Munich players missed long otherwise they could have scored a lot of goals.

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September 21, 2023, 01:51:26 AM
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In fact, Manchester United's performance in this match was quite good, but unfortunately they did not do anything in the first half to match the pressure exerted by Bayern Munich. Bayern Munich under the guidance of Tuchel of course they have a pretty strong mentality in the Champions League this season. I didn't see any strong enough changes made by Erik Ten Hag in this match because he was so afraid to give a new sensation if he did.
I don't consider it as a good performance from Manchester United. They lost the match at the end is important result and they even faced with a bigger loss if Bayern Munich make their shots better. The final result looks to tight between two clubs but in fact Manchester United found very too late goals which did not help them to make this defeat looks better. If you don't watch the match or the highlight, simply look at the final result, you will think they have a balanced match with Bayern Munich but in fact Bayern Munich dominated the match. In early of second half, Bayern Munich got some opportunities to destroy Manchester United with a tennis result but they wasted those chances.

Every day, the same story. It's getting too scary now, Three lost in a row. Disappointed.
Manchester United left the first place in Munich with that score.
Now it's time to challenge for the second place against Galatasaray and Copenhagen.
United needs some of the injured players back and needs someone with energy at midfield,
Case and Ericksen are too old for modern football.
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September 21, 2023, 03:25:31 AM
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People are saying Manchester United is already improved because during their poor performance they can score 3 goals to Bayern Munich, but people forget if Bayern Munich's goalkeeper played really awful. If Bayern Munich still have Yann Sommer, I think Manchester United only can score one goal.

It's shame to see Onana, Ten Hag should ask De Gea to back Manchester United.

Overall I'm happy to see Rashford has lower his ego, while Bruno is still same.

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September 21, 2023, 03:29:03 AM
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Harry Kane played in Premier League many years and is a second best scorer in history of Premier League. He faced with Manchester United many times so he has enough experience with Manchester United and understand the opponent well. Beating Manchester United can help Bayern Munich to open a gate to get a first position in this group and can complete their tasks in this group a little bit sooner.

That's what I initially thought, Harry Kane should be relied on in this fight but he didn't do it well he only scored a goal through a penalty. With one goal ahead is certainly not a good position for Bayern Munich in the second leg because Manchester United could have destroyed them at home this is clearly a loss for Munich, luckily they were in an easy group only Manchester United the strongest competitor while 2 more opponents are of course easy opponents so Munich and Manchester United still have a chance to qualify for the stage.

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September 21, 2023, 03:47:30 AM
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People are saying Manchester United is already improved because during their poor performance they can score 3 goals to Bayern Munich, but people forget if Bayern Munich's goalkeeper played really awful. If Bayern Munich still have Yann Sommer, I think Manchester United only can score one goal.

It's shame to see Onana, Ten Hag should ask De Gea to back Manchester United.

Overall I'm happy to see Rashford has lower his ego, while Bruno is still same.

It was a tough match for Manchester united from the beginning that made  Bayern Munich to lead the match with 2-0 in the first half, because many people hope that Manchester united will use this match to prove to people that they have what it takes to win the match. Manchester united nearly get it right in the second half to equalized the goals from the match, but it was too late for them to make such thing happen because Bayern Munich coach instructed his players to play a defending game so that they will achieve three points from the match which they did at the end of the match to defeated Manchester city 4-3. I think, Rashford and other strikers have more work to do to improve the team because they really missed many opportunities that would have help them to win the match but they missed used them.

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Harry Kane played in Premier League many years and is a second best scorer in history of Premier League. He faced with Manchester United many times so he has enough experience with Manchester United and understand the opponent well. Beating Manchester United can help Bayern Munich to open a gate to get a first position in this group and can complete their tasks in this group a little bit sooner.

That's what I initially thought, Harry Kane should be relied on in this fight but he didn't do it well he only scored a goal through a penalty. With one goal ahead is certainly not a good position for Bayern Munich in the second leg because Manchester United could have destroyed them at home this is clearly a loss for Munich, luckily they were in an easy group only Manchester United the strongest competitor while 2 more opponents are of course easy opponents so Munich and Manchester United still have a chance to qualify for the stage.
It doesn't matter a lot as long as bayern was winning the game and earn full points from manchester united. I saw that if bayern's goal keeper was under perform. The goal doesn't matter when it was still on the group stage. It mean a lot once united will be playing on the play off stage but this is still far to happen. Manchester united needs to get full points against some clubs like galsaray and copenhagen. It seems to me that if manchester united has found its rythm again. Bayern was strong but manchester united can use the current result as evaluation before it will face weak club on its group.
Im happy ten hag was hearing fans's criticism about his tactic. I saw that if ten hag has been changing his strategy compared with the match against brighton. Even though pellistri was filling the right winger position but he was good enough.
I don't even say MU was good overall but we can take the result against bayern as measurement to determine the result in upcoming match when MU will face weak team.

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September 21, 2023, 04:52:40 AM
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Although Real Madrid won the game but I find a very late and single goal insufficient for a team like Real Madrid facing a team like Union Berlin which isn't that top this season which make things worse.
Real Madrid need to be convincing and score more goals. I wonder know what they could do if Bellingham was injured or carded..
Bellingham again became Madrid hero in the final minutes, becoming a savior and of course continuing to provide positive points. Union Berlin game was very good even though in possession of the ball they made more communication errors between their own players.

But you are right about Bellingham, especially since Madrid played without Vini, whose impact in the attack line was not very sharp. This victory is still not enough for Madrid because being able to score just 1 goal in my opinion is very inappropriate for Madrid class.

In fact, Manchester United's performance in this match was quite good, but unfortunately they did not do anything in the first half to match the pressure exerted by Bayern Munich. Bayern Munich under the guidance of Tuchel of course they have a pretty strong mentality in the Champions League this season. I didn't see any strong enough changes made by Erik Ten Hag in this match because he was so afraid to give a new sensation if he did.

Well, I was amazed by Harry Kane performance in this match because he faced the EPL team again in the Champions League, of course he has great instincts to beat the EPL team. Because he managed to contribute 1 goal and 1 assist in this match, but I saw him have several golden opportunities but his shot was still blocked by Onana.
After seeing the results of the match between Bayern Munich and Manchester United it ended quite dramatically with a score of 4-3. In my opinion, Manchester United overall performance in the first half only had difficulty sharpening its attacks, but in the second half there was quite a change. Erik Ten Hag certainly encourages his players to keep trying. Being left behind and being able to score 3 goals should still be a positive point even if you lose. The reason is that it is not easy for any club to score 3 goals against Bayern Munich throughout this season. I am sure like most people who think that Manchester United will not score more than 1 goal considering the performance in the last few matches is clearly bad.

Talking about Andre Onana, I think it is clear that up to now his performance is still far from expectations in guarding Manchester United's goal. The situation was difficult and the opponent knew Onana weakness, namely low balls, so Sane and Gnabry made good use of the first 2 goals.

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