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September 05, 2023, 02:01:09 AM
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United is not going to be a rival for Bayern at this moment, they are just not that good to be fair, maybe they will become that good eventually but not for the moment. But they may win rest of the games with ease if they do not make mistakes and that means they should be able to get enough points. Obviously it is not going to be easy, because this is champions league and any team could beat any team, if United is not careful they could lose points to any team.

However, that doesn't change the fact that they look like they could be better teams than both other teams and could be second team in the group and just go up. After that it is a bit difficult to say because they are not really doing that well so may lose there.
Everything complicated for Manchester United, it's really a messed to see them lost to Arsenal 3-1 and facing Brighton Albion this weekend. Manchester United are undoubtedly struggling to win EPL games, never alone the difficult opponents they will play in the UEFA Champions League group stage. The situation will be exceedingly challenging for the Red Devils, but I believe Erik Ten Hag suggests a determined strategy and prepares a formidable squad before it's too late. I am hoping they acclimatize swiftly after facing Bayern Munich in the first group stage draw, but it's already getting closer.

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September 05, 2023, 04:36:09 AM
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I'm already imagining Sevilla in the Europa League after the group stage. Because even if they deal with Lens I don't think they can do the same as for PSV. I don't even mention Arsenal because I believe Sevilla don't have a chance against them. Arsenal can beat them home and away both. Sevilla should be grateful if they get one point home at least.

As for PSV they seem far stronger than Sevilla now. Their way of demolishing Rangers home was really impressive. I think PSV can get at least 4 points from Sevilla without exaggeration. Sevilla would finish the group as the third and fight for the Europa League title again.
Talking about Sevilla they are the king of Europa league because Sevilla as the most champion on that competition but in champion league if i am not mistaken last time they were qualified to knockout stage was 2021 and at that time they can able to advances to round of 16 but they were eliminated by Dortmund and actually the competitions between group B is not so hard because the strongest team on that group is only Arsenal but the most problem is Sevilla had facing several issues which make until now they were still struggle to gets their first winning this season and i think this is interesting because i want to know which teams will be able to qualified along with Arsenal whether it PSV, Sevilla or Lens

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September 05, 2023, 04:37:45 AM
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Form the performances of the clubs in the group D of this season's UEFA Champions League competition so far, I think Inter Milan are the favourites to win the group. They've been exceptional this season and if they continue their great form in the Italian Serie A, they might be playing in the final of the competition once again.
Benfica I think also stands a chance to progress to the knockout stages. Real Sociedad and Salzburg didn't come to waste their time in the competition so they also will do their best to qualify
For group D it seems that many people will also make Inter Milan the favorite in this group phase and of the 4 teams in group D only Inter Milan has the most chance of leading the group and qualifying for the last 16 but when you look at Inter Milan at Setie A it is also very likely that Inter Milan can play well until the final round like last season Champions League.
In the first match of this group phase Inter Milan will meet Real Sociedad and there will be a difficult challenge for Inter Milan to beat Real Sociedad because they are a team that is quite strong in La Liga and often provide unexpected surprises in every match when against same team strong.

But still for both of them Inter Milan is still the favorite.

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Last edit: September 05, 2023, 06:59:33 AM by SmartCharpa
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United is not going to be a rival for Bayern at this moment, they are just not that good to be fair, maybe they will become that good eventually but not for the moment. But they may win rest of the games with ease if they do not make mistakes and that means they should be able to get enough points. Obviously it is not going to be easy, because this is champions league and any team could beat any team, if United is not careful they could lose points to any team.

However, that doesn't change the fact that they look like they could be better teams than both other teams and could be second team in the group and just go up. After that it is a bit difficult to say because they are not really doing that well so may lose there.

With the way Manchester United is playing right now, I'm not sure if they will be able to draw or win any team on that group stage. I know this is a game and a team that we don't even think they will win and take the Champions League seriously, but with these poor performances, Manchester United needs to be courageous because if care are not taken, they could end up in the Europa League.Bayern Munich cannot be defeated even if Manchester United players are healthy and strong. Even beating Galatasaray in the group stages will be difficult for them, so they can only get points with Copenhagen based on how they perform. You can see how Manchester United struggled against Arsenal and ended up and end up loosing point, which is a huge disgrace for the fans.




The two teams that competed in the quarter-finals last season, namely Benfica and Inter, will be in group D for this season's Champions League. Both will be accompanied by Salzburg and Real Sociedad, who are also newcomers this season. If we look at the competition in Group D, it is very likely that Inter will win the group and for the runners up it will be a battle for the other 3 teams. I'm not underestimating Benfica but Real Sociedad and Salzburg were also quite competent in domestic league competition last season so anything can still happen. It seems that group D will also be quite a surprising group and in my opinion the ones who will qualify for the next round are Inter and Real Sociedad.

While both Real Sociedad and Inter Milan are currently playing well, I think Inter Milan will definitely make it to the next round. For Benfica, you can see that Angel Di Maria is contributing well to the team, and I think they can make it too, because Benfica is a club that we cannot underestimate.

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September 05, 2023, 06:53:54 AM
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Everything complicated for Manchester United, it's really a messed to see them lost to Arsenal 3-1 and facing Brighton Albion this weekend. Manchester United are undoubtedly struggling to win EPL games, never alone the difficult opponents they will play in the UEFA Champions League group stage. The situation will be exceedingly challenging for the Red Devils, but I believe Erik Ten Hag suggests a determined strategy and prepares a formidable squad before it's too late. I am hoping they acclimatize swiftly after facing Bayern Munich in the first group stage draw, but it's already getting closer.
Manchester United will not have a problem in the group stage, Copenhagen and Galatasaray are weak clubs, their tough opponent is only Bayern Munich, as long as they're in the top 2, it's already fine. The problem will arise during the quarter final and we're already know which clubs will qualify since many of group stages are dominated by 2 big clubs and 2 small clubs. But Manchester United still have a chance to win in Europa league.
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September 05, 2023, 07:01:48 AM
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Talking about Sevilla they are the king of Europa league because Sevilla as the most champion on that competition but in champion league if i am not mistaken last time they were qualified to knockout stage was 2021 and at that time they can able to advances to round of 16 but they were eliminated by Dortmund and actually the competitions between group B is not so hard because the strongest team on that group is only Arsenal but the most problem is Sevilla had facing several issues which make until now they were still struggle to gets their first winning this season and i think this is interesting because i want to know which teams will be able to qualified along with Arsenal whether it PSV, Sevilla or Lens
I think of all the teams in group B, the ones likely to qualify are Arsenal and PSV. It's not meant to belittle Sevilla and Lens because so far both of them have fallen so badly in the domestic league. Because of that it is impossible for both of them to compete more competitively in the champions league competition. Apart from that, instead of targeting the Champions League, and as we know, for many seasons, Sevilla prefers to dominate the European League, which has become a place to collect trophies. So, in my opinion, it is quite clear that Arsenal will win the group, but if Sevilla and Lens can put pressure on PSV, it is possible that we will know the group runners up from these three teams.

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September 05, 2023, 07:15:44 AM
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The two teams that competed in the quarter-finals last season, namely Benfica and Inter, will be in group D for this season's Champions League. Both will be accompanied by Salzburg and Real Sociedad, who are also newcomers this season. If we look at the competition in Group D, it is very likely that Inter will win the group and for the runners up it will be a battle for the other 3 teams. I'm not underestimating Benfica but Real Sociedad and Salzburg were also quite competent in domestic league competition last season so anything can still happen. It seems that group D will also be quite a surprising group and in my opinion the ones who will qualify for the next round are Inter and Real Sociedad.
For Group D, seems Inter Milan and Benfica are favorable teams will qualify to next round depending with RB Salzburg not really favorite team compete for fighting to finish on 1st or 2nd standings, the same chance with Real  Sociedad its first time their participating in UEFA Champion League after absent for longer time. Inter Milan have consistency performance in domestic league and regarding their achievement last season success managed until final stage before beating by Manchester City.

For Benfica is favorable teams will finish on 2nd placed Group D, they have much experienced with Champion League and last season achievement success qualify from group stage.

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September 05, 2023, 07:24:14 AM
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Sevilla's current Laliga form is not encouraging, and this may have an impact on their Champions League performance because teams like Arsenal and PSV are playing very well in their respective leagues, with only Sevilla and Lens having poor starts to their respective league seasons; as a result, I predict Arsenal and PSV to qualify to the round of 16 ahead of Lens and Sevilla.
I don't imagine that Sevilla performed so badly in La Liga earlier this season, but there is a possibility that they can do better in the Champions League to win a place in the last 16. Sevilla are a different team in the Champions League so we shouldn't underestimate them just because of their poor form in La Liga.

In my opinion, Sevilla still has a chance even though Arsenal and PSV are able to perform well in their respective domestic leagues. Even though it can be used as a benchmark for analyzing the possibilities, I am sure that Sevilla will look different in the Champions League.
You are right we shouldn't use the performance of a club in the domestic league to judge the performance in the Champions league. Sevilla has been coming up with poor performance since the beginning of this season,I think that there is a reason for this. Maybe they want to stay more focus on the Champions league,who knows ?

This was how they started last season and ended up being the champion of Europa which gave them an automatic ticket to the champions league. So let's relax and watch how their performance will be in UCL,maybe very poor or not.


It would be a very wrong strategy to ignore the league in order to focus on the champions league if they think so. Sevilla is an important team and yes, there is an important expectation from them as the last European league champions. I hope they do well in UCL but I don't think they will do well there if they don't perform better than they did in the league.

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September 05, 2023, 11:59:22 AM
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As for PSV they seem far stronger than Sevilla now. Their way of demolishing Rangers home was really impressive. I think PSV can get at least 4 points from Sevilla without exaggeration. Sevilla would finish the group as the third and fight for the Europa League title again.
Talking about Sevilla they are the king of Europa league because Sevilla as the most champion on that competition but in champion league if i am not mistaken last time they were qualified to knockout stage was 2021 and at that time they can able to advances to round of 16 but they were eliminated by Dortmund and actually the competitions between group B is not so hard because the strongest team on that group is only Arsenal but the most problem is Sevilla had facing several issues which make until now they were still struggle to gets their first winning this season and i think this is interesting because i want to know which teams will be able to qualified along with Arsenal whether it PSV, Sevilla or Lens
Sevilla can still qualify because I am quite optimistic about their game which can always provide surprises. Moreover, the club in Group B that we need to watch out for the most is Arsenal, while PSV and Lens can still be overcome by Sevilla in terms of games on the field. I will not doubt the mentality of the Sevilla players. Sevilla, which always subscribes to the Europa League trophy, is now starting to want to try bigger opportunities. Even though currently in La Liga the results are quite surprising where a total of 3 matches have never won though.

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September 05, 2023, 01:51:33 PM
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Sevilla can still qualify because I am quite optimistic about their game which can always provide surprises. Moreover, the club in Group B that we need to watch out for the most is Arsenal, while PSV and Lens can still be overcome by Sevilla in terms of games on the field. I will not doubt the mentality of the Sevilla players. Sevilla, which always subscribes to the Europa League trophy, is now starting to want to try bigger opportunities. Even though currently in La Liga the results are quite surprising where a total of 3 matches have never won though.
Lance started the season very badly, maybe even worse than Sevilla, so we can assume that Sevilla will have a chance to continue their participation in the LE. Whether they can be better than PSV, I don’t know, maybe there are chances. I think Arsenal will get the first place in this group, and Sevilla and PSV will fight for the second and third places, that's my forecast. Despite the fact that Sevilla play poorly in La Liga, they know how to surprise in euro cups.

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September 05, 2023, 05:10:00 PM
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Sevilla can still qualify because I am quite optimistic about their game which can always provide surprises. Moreover, the club in Group B that we need to watch out for the most is Arsenal, while PSV and Lens can still be overcome by Sevilla in terms of games on the field. I will not doubt the mentality of the Sevilla players. Sevilla, which always subscribes to the Europa League trophy, is now starting to want to try bigger opportunities. Even though currently in La Liga the results are quite surprising where a total of 3 matches have never won though.
Lance started the season very badly, maybe even worse than Sevilla, so we can assume that Sevilla will have a chance to continue their participation in the LE. Whether they can be better than PSV, I don’t know, maybe there are chances. I think Arsenal will get the first place in this group, and Sevilla and PSV will fight for the second and third places, that's my forecast. Despite the fact that Sevilla play poorly in La Liga, they know how to surprise in euro cups.

After all, now Sevilla has succeeded to bringing in Ramos and at least, maybe having Ramos it will make Sevilla defense even better. Indeed, there is still no definite guarantee, but at least with Ramos, it maybe also improve the quality of Sevilla performance later. I personally really look forward to the big impact that Sevilla will have after having Ramos in their squad, because of course we know that Ramos is a senior player who can be a change on the field. Therefore, I am personally quite optimistic that Sevilla will be able to finish in second place in this group phase, and if that happens then Sevilla will not continue to the Europa League.

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September 05, 2023, 05:16:03 PM
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Maybe last season, or rather last season's success happened earlier than they had planned? And despite the fact that the club qualified for the Champions League, the management is not ready to change long-term plans because of this. And it's too early to judge whether it's reasonable or not - we have an example of Chelsea which spends a lot of money but achieves absolutely nothing.

Yes and I am not saying that Newcastle is making a big mistake here, but I think they could have been a bit more bold in the transfer market. The means are there and maybe they are throwing away some momentum now if they fail hard this season and so far it isn't looking good. It's still not catastrophic, but we know how quickly this can develop into a whole that they can't dig their way easily out of.

I don't know how profitable Newcastle is at the moment and how much financial margin they had, maybe you are right and they should have built on their success. But we don't know what's in the head of management, so it's hard to judge. Maybe they just want to be profitable first and see everything else as a bonus (the Arsenal model that seemed to never really start fighting for titles again and would just keep making money on transfers).

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September 05, 2023, 06:07:22 PM
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I think that it would be much better for Sevilla to go down to the Europa League rather than continuing in the Champions League. Because clearly they can be more successful there. Sevilla have already started poorly to the season. On paper they got a lucky draw in the Champions League. But considering their effort these days I don't expect them to do better than Arsenal and PSV both. They can just make sure to get as many point as possible from Lens to consolidate the 3rd position.

When they go to the tournament in which they are called "the king" they can be much more successful.

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September 05, 2023, 06:11:39 PM
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After all, now Sevilla has succeeded to bringing in Ramos and at least, maybe having Ramos it will make Sevilla defense even better. Indeed, there is still no definite guarantee, but at least with Ramos, it maybe also improve the quality of Sevilla performance later. I personally really look forward to the big impact that Sevilla will have after having Ramos in their squad, because of course we know that Ramos is a senior player who can be a change on the field. Therefore, I am personally quite optimistic that Sevilla will be able to finish in second place in this group phase, and if that happens then Sevilla will not continue to the Europa League.
when we think optimistically there will definitely be slight changes for Sevilla after the return of Ramos to the Sevilla line up to try their luck with the performance he has to help Sevilla to qualify for the preliminary round. and if we think realistically, of course we know that every player who is a little old will definitely experience a decrease in performance, even though in the past, when Ramos did not join another team, he still did his own training, but in terms of stamina, it has decreased and in the UCL there are many young players from other teams that have far more stable performances such as Arsenal players. well, even though Sevilla will be able to appear perfect on the field because of Ramos they will have to compete with Arsenal who for me will be a challenger that will make it difficult for Sevilla to qualify for the next round.

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September 05, 2023, 06:46:33 PM
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You are right we shouldn't use the performance of a club in the domestic league to judge the performance in the Champions league. Sevilla has been coming up with poor performance since the beginning of this season,I think that there is a reason for this. Maybe they want to stay more focus on the Champions league,who knows ?

This was how they started last season and ended up being the champion of Europa which gave them an automatic ticket to the champions league. So let's relax and watch how their performance will be in UCL,maybe very poor or not.


At the very least, we will always see how a team performs its matches in its domestic league. only after that, at least we have an idea of ​​how they will do in other competitions. In this case it focuses on Sevilla, they are now in the bottom position in La Liga. In their three matches, they conceded 8 goals. Of course this result is a problem, how their defense line is so easy to penetrate.

If Sevilla wants to focus on the Champions League, like you said. The scenario shouldn't be like that. At the very least, the coach will maximize his squad in preparation for their match in the Champions League by playing the best in the league competition. but what happened was the opposite, they lost in their four matches. three in La Liga, one match in the EUFA Super Cup against City. However, Mendilibar still has time to raise his team's mentality and their performance. Before competing in this competition, Sevilla must win two matches in their domestic competition for their confidence.

Talking about the match later, their opponent will be Lens. not unlike Sevilla's performance, Lens experienced a poor start to their campaign at the start of the season. Sevilla can take advantage of it, especially since the match is played at Sevilla's headquarters. well, we'll just follow it when the time comes.

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September 05, 2023, 07:06:31 PM
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I would guess that Sevilla will not do that well at UCL anyway, so "focusing on UCL" is not something sevilla can really do, it is not going to help them in any case and it will not benefit them all that much neither. I think it should be important to keep it going one way or another.

I do believe that we are not going to end up with a good result, but that doesn't mean that league should be not cared about neither. League is the only thing they should care about, and if they are lucky they will be third at the group stages of UCL and go back to europa which they are good at anyway and they will be doing fine. That is the best way for them to move forward, the Europa win if they can, which is hard I know, and also league top four.

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September 05, 2023, 07:25:51 PM
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I think that it would be much better for Sevilla to go down to the Europa League rather than continuing in the Champions League.
LOL. You think it's that easy to go down to the Europa League? Sevilla also wants to be in the Champions League even though many doubt it like you, let's just wait until the group stage rolls around.

Sevilla have already started poorly to the season. On paper they got a lucky draw in the Champions League. But considering their effort these days I don't expect them to do better than Arsenal and PSV both. They can just make sure to get as many point as possible from Lens to consolidate the 3rd position.
I know Sevilla this season started badly including in LaLiga with 3x matches lost, it can be widely assumed Sevilla will not qualify we will never know Sevilla's game in the Champions League sometimes it will surprise like in the Europa League last season.

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September 05, 2023, 07:34:04 PM
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I would guess that Sevilla will not do that well at UCL anyway, so "focusing on UCL" is not something sevilla can really do, it is not going to help them in any case and it will not benefit them all that much neither. I think it should be important to keep it going one way or another.

I do believe that we are not going to end up with a good result, but that doesn't mean that league should be not cared about neither. League is the only thing they should care about, and if they are lucky they will be third at the group stages of UCL and go back to europa which they are good at anyway and they will be doing fine. That is the best way for them to move forward, the Europa win if they can, which is hard I know, and also league top four.

Sevilla's goal is never the Champions League. The sevilla team doesn't even have the squad to do well in the Champions League.  sevilla will also try to win the Europa league title. And from Group B I think PSV and Arsenal will qualify for round of 16. Sevilla and Lens are unlikely to qualify for the next round . The performances of both these teams have been poor this season.

The last team in La Liga's points table is now sevilla. Sevilla have been badly beaten in all three matches. Sevilla have conceded 8 goals in these three matches. Their defense is also quite weak. It is not possible to survive in the Champions League with such a bad performance. However, in the first match of the Champions League, Sevilla's opponent is Lens. Lens is a weak team, defeating this team will boost the confidence of Sevilla players. Maybe they can perform better in future.

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September 05, 2023, 07:43:29 PM
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After all, now Sevilla has succeeded to bringing in Ramos and at least, maybe having Ramos it will make Sevilla defense even better. Indeed, there is still no definite guarantee, but at least with Ramos, it maybe also improve the quality of Sevilla performance later. I personally really look forward to the big impact that Sevilla will have after having Ramos in their squad, because of course we know that Ramos is a senior player who can be a change on the field. Therefore, I am personally quite optimistic that Sevilla will be able to finish in second place in this group phase, and if that happens then Sevilla will not continue to the Europa League.

Looking at the clubs in the group to which Sevilla belongs, I don't think it will be difficult for them to finish in the top two of the table and advance to the knockout stage of the competition. Indeed, Ramos return to the club will have a significant impact on the team's total performance, not only on defence, because he will function as a leader and captain there. What we should be looking forward to is the team they will face in the knockout stage of the competition, and whether they will be able to pass through that stage with or without him, which I believe will be difficult for them given the teams present in each groups and those likely to move to the knockout phase of the competition.

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September 05, 2023, 07:50:22 PM
Merited by Volgastallion (1)
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I think that it would be much better for Sevilla to go down to the Europa League rather than continuing in the Champions League.
LOL. You think it's that easy to go down to the Europa League? Sevilla also wants to be in the Champions League even though many doubt it like you, let's just wait until the group stage rolls around.

I will add here the reward system used in Champions League, Europa League and Conference League when they enter and when they advance in each stage.
Playing Europa League only will guarantee around €40m when lifting the Cup if I am not mistaken which is the equivalent of reaching the Quarter-finals in Champions League. Obviously if this seems to be a hard mission then jumping to Europa League might be a better solution.

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