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October 22, 2023, 08:44:11 AM
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Everyone may know, but there may be surprises. Galatasaray is not a team to be underestimated and this game will be played at RAMS ARENA, so the results could be very different.
Everyone knows that Bayern Munich is a strong team and the favorite of the game, but we have a very good squad.
Champions League is event of surprises and shocking results with Galatasaray are surely one of the team which is now having chances for the qualifying into knock out stage with their win against Manchester United was impressive, but now they are going to host Bayern Munich which is having one of the best attack in UEFA, and they will be with their full strength in this game if Galatasaray able to handle them surely this could be great boost for them, but I have different view because their performance against Copenhagen was not as per required, so things could be not easy for them in this game.

But, here I have to clear one thing if they are able to do something impressive then surely this could be ticketed for them for the knock-out round, but this all is too early with Bayern Munich is surely going to have different plans.

Even though Galatasaray cannot be underestimated at all, but playing against Bayern Munich looks like it will still be difficult for Galatasaray to get full points when playing against Bayern Munich. But Indeed, I also know that Galatasaray managed to beat Manchester United, but we also cannot equate the quality of Bayern Munich with Manchester United at this moment . Because ya, of course Bayern Munich and Manchester United at this moment have at least different qualities. Anyway, if for example Galatasaray loses by Bayern Munich, but I sure that Galatasaray will still have a chance of qualifying for the last 16. Because of course, the runner up position in this group will be a struggle between Galatasaray and Manchester United.
Bayern Munich is a team strong enough to become champions in the UCL. The quality of the staff is amazing. Considering that Harry Kane was added to this squad, we may have a better understanding of the quality of the squad. Galatasaray is a good team, they beat Manchester United at Old Trafford, but I don't think they will be so lucky against Bayern. Bayern Munich is really hard to beat.

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October 22, 2023, 08:57:37 AM
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Both Manchester United and Copenhagen won against weak clubs in their leagues, what do you think about the result of Manchester United vs Copenhagen? I predict the match will end in draw, since both of the clubs aren't strong enough. Bet on Manchester United to win is really not worth it since the odds is really low @1.36, while the odds for draw is @5.00.

It is true that Manchester United haven't been much convincing since the start of the season. They lost the half of their matches in the Premier League so far. In addition to that they still have 0 points in Group A here. But on the other hand there is still a significant difference between them and Copenhagen in terms of quality.

As the match is in Old Trafford as well I don't expect Manchester United to lose this time. It must already be time for them to get their first points in the Champions League. This is the biggest opportunity for them. I think Manchester United is worth betting on @1.34 for this match.
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October 22, 2023, 09:05:11 AM
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Both Manchester United and Copenhagen won against weak clubs in their leagues, what do you think about the result of Manchester United vs Copenhagen? I predict the match will end in draw, since both of the clubs aren't strong enough. Bet on Manchester United to win is really not worth it since the odds is really low @1.36, while the odds for draw is @5.00.
looking at their last meeting, Manchester United was able to beat Copenhagen, but that was in 2020 and it seem like this season is different. Manchester United is not in good condition.
Manchester United has experienced a decline in performance several times and has experience several problem with its player who have suffered many injuries, even though Manchester United chances of winning are greaters. but it is not yet certain whether Manchester United can win the match.
Copenhagen has performed well in the domestic league for several seasons so this match looks interesting to watch. If Manchester United loses this match, it is certain that Manchester United will not qualify for the next round of the Champions League.

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October 22, 2023, 09:27:08 AM
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Regardless of Sevilla's current form in both the league and in the UEFA Champions League, playing against them in an European game at the Ramon Sanchez-Pizjuan Stadium is one of the scariest matches for any European club because Sevilla are always playing at their best whenever they're playing an European game in front of their home fans.
Arsenal I think knows truly well of the kind of task they're trying to execute and I think Mikel Arteta's men are ready for the encounter. On papers, Arsenal are the favourites to win that game but they must be at their best to take all three points from that game
So basically it is quite difficult for Arsenal to get the full three points against Sevilla. I'm pretty sure that this match has a tense intensity. Sevilla can overwhelm Arsenal even with ideal players. Personally, I would not underestimate Sevilla if they were playing at home. This is a tough task for Arteta and his troops to better control their emotions and be calm. As usual, the mentality of Arsenal players will always be tested and in the Champions League competition it will not be the same as what they experienced in the Premier League.
When it comes to the europa league I'm very sure of Sevilla because their performance in the europa league used to be extraordinary,  they put their best performance in every game they play no matter the team, but as for champions league I'm not too sure about Sevilla if they can succeed to defeat arsenal.  Arsenal are doing well this season,  and I don't think the champions league is a game that they will take for granted,  looking at the players arsenal have compare to that to Sevilla it very possible for arsenal to defeat Sevilla.

After watching Arsenal play today, I considered them good enough to win Sevilla but that will not be happening so. Sevilla has no Competition when it gets to the Europa League. They fail to qualify for another round and they will be sent billow.
Both sides Arsenal and Sevilla had a  tough game together in. Sevilla had a new coach so it's change of plans and change of everything that.
That game will see both sides fighting still. They both couldn't win the games they played today, lets say them, safe recovery.
Arsenal should have won the Premier League match against Chelsea. All the discussions I have seen on Chelsea vs Arsenal before the match started have put Arsenal ahead but unfortunately Arsenal could not win this match even though they collected a point in this match. Arsenal have a match against Sevilla in the Champions League a few days later, a much needed win against Chelsea before the match against Sevilla in the Champions League. If Arsenal perform the way they did against Chelsea against Sevilla then I'm sure they won't get full points in their Champions League match. Arsenal must be ready for the Champions League match with a few days to go. The manager will also have to focus on how to improve the performance as the match against Sevilla is very important for Arsenal.

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October 22, 2023, 11:40:51 AM
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Both Manchester United and Copenhagen won against weak clubs in their leagues, what do you think about the result of Manchester United vs Copenhagen? I predict the match will end in draw, since both of the clubs aren't strong enough. Bet on Manchester United to win is really not worth it since the odds is really low @1.36, while the odds for draw is @5.00.
For now I still put Manchester United as favorites, despite their 2 defeats in the Champions League. But there is a note that they must improve if they want to win in this match, which lies in their defense. Yes until the 2nd match, their defense is one of the causes of the defeat they experienced, because if you look at the attack line there is actually no problem that is so big as in their defense, as evidenced by the 5 goals they can create in 2 pre-matches. Instead they conceded 7 goals, this is a record that must really be resolved by ETH as their coach.

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October 22, 2023, 12:05:47 PM
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Both Manchester United and Copenhagen won against weak clubs in their leagues, what do you think about the result of Manchester United vs Copenhagen? I predict the match will end in draw, since both of the clubs aren't strong enough. Bet on Manchester United to win is really not worth it since the odds is really low @1.36, while the odds for draw is @5.00.
looking at their last meeting, Manchester United was able to beat Copenhagen, but that was in 2020 and it seem like this season is different. Manchester United is not in good condition.
Manchester United has experienced a decline in performance several times and has experience several problem with its player who have suffered many injuries, even though Manchester United chances of winning are greaters. but it is not yet certain whether Manchester United can win the match.
Copenhagen has performed well in the domestic league for several seasons so this match looks interesting to watch. If Manchester United loses this match, it is certain that Manchester United will not qualify for the next round of the Champions League.
In this match I will exclude H2H between the two teams, We all know how Manchester United will perform this season. The internal and external problems that occurred within the team made it very difficult for Manchester United to find the best form of play, their performances often fluctuated.
While Copenhagen performed better in the domestic league, they managed to top the Danish Superliga standings. Copenhagen didn't come to Old Trafford to lose, they will try to fight back against Manchester United to bring home points in order to maintain their chances of qualifying for the knockout rounds.

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October 22, 2023, 12:44:30 PM
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Arsenal should have won the Premier League match against Chelsea. All the discussions I have seen on Chelsea vs Arsenal before the match started have put Arsenal ahead but unfortunately Arsenal could not win this match even though they collected a point in this match. Arsenal have a match against Sevilla in the Champions League a few days later, a much needed win against Chelsea before the match against Sevilla in the Champions League. If Arsenal perform the way they did against Chelsea against Sevilla then I'm sure they won't get full points in their Champions League match. Arsenal must be ready for the Champions League match with a few days to go. The manager will also have to focus on how to improve the performance as the match against Sevilla is very important for Arsenal.
I will not link the matches in the domestic league and UCL for the two teams, if you look at the domestic matches of course Arsenal experienced bad results and Sevilla achieved satisfactory results even though both of them drew, Arsenal drew against Chelsea and Sevilla drew against Real Madrid.

However, in the UCL match I think it will be different, Arsenal and Sevilla are the same high school teams that will be very ambitious to win the match but we can only speculate realistically and I cannot deny that Arsenal's quality is currently much better so they do have a greater percentage to be able to win the match.

I think that regarding Sevilla only the result was satisfactory as the game was totally bullshit as they didn't show anything and Real did all the damage to themselves with that own goal of Alaba.Arsenal on the other hand did a much better game than Sevilla in their domestic league and near won the game which they were losing 2-0 before ending 2-2 as the final result.

So based on these facts in Uefa Champions League I think Arsenal is the heavy favorite for this game and I doubt Sevilla will show strong resistance.They could not win against Lens at home and I don't think they will against Arsenal.

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October 22, 2023, 12:59:52 PM
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Both Manchester United and Copenhagen won against weak clubs in their leagues, what do you think about the result of Manchester United vs Copenhagen? I predict the match will end in draw, since both of the clubs aren't strong enough. Bet on Manchester United to win is really not worth it since the odds is really low @1.36, while the odds for draw is @5.00.
For now I still put Manchester United as favorites, despite their 2 defeats in the Champions League. But there is a note that they must improve if they want to win in this match, which lies in their defense. Yes until the 2nd match, their defense is one of the causes of the defeat they experienced, because if you look at the attack line there is actually no problem that is so big as in their defense, as evidenced by the 5 goals they can create in 2 pre-matches. Instead they conceded 7 goals, this is a record that must really be resolved by ETH as their coach.

Expectations from Manchester United is more like expectations from Nigerian government, it's laughable you know, you'll be broken by the time you realize it. You can never expect a win and get it, Manchester United will break your heart, put a stop to your heart and choke you to death.

Did you watch that boring game last night? I got fed up completely. I left with the score 1-1 only to seea beautiful goal from Diego Dalot.
He has also been poor with defending, a scene last night and I reminisced the blunder he caused against Galatasaray, letting Wilfred Zaha score that goal.
They better sit up, not sure they'll qualify for the next round, they're yet to take a point not even three. Embarrassing.

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October 22, 2023, 01:07:37 PM
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I think that regarding Sevilla only the result was satisfactory as the game was totally bullshit as they didn't show anything and Real did all the damage to themselves with that own goal of Alaba.Arsenal on the other hand did a much better game than Sevilla in their domestic league and near won the game which they were losing 2-0 before ending 2-2 as the final result.

So based on these facts in Uefa Champions League I think Arsenal is the heavy favorite for this game and I doubt Sevilla will show strong resistance.They could not win against Lens at home and I don't think they will against Arsenal.
I pick Arsenal as the favorites to win the game even though both teams got a draw in the domestic league games yesterday, Arsenal's performance was very much better than Sevilla, if Sevilla were 2 goals down by Realmadrid like Chelsea did to Arsenal,  i doubt if they'll be able to get a comeback draw, they were lucky to steal a point against  Real Madrid however same luck might not be on their side against Arsenal.

 Sevilla have not really had a good performance in the Champions league and they didn't quite had any good performance against Realmadrid, playing against Arsenal means they should be ready to work hard on the pitch, Arsenal is a team that loves to hold the ball and dominated mostly and they cause  a problem for you if you try to  park the box based on their tiki taka tactics therefore they could really trouble Sevilla at their home.

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October 22, 2023, 01:32:18 PM
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Both Manchester United and Copenhagen won against weak clubs in their leagues, what do you think about the result of Manchester United vs Copenhagen? I predict the match will end in draw, since both of the clubs aren't strong enough. Bet on Manchester United to win is really not worth it since the odds is really low @1.36, while the odds for draw is @5.00.

Even though you say Man United won against weak teams in the league, I see many changes made by Man United and this is an important asset to face Copenhagen and in the next match Man United will face Man City.

Man United's victory over Sheffield United saw a lot of changes made by Man United players, especially Onana, in that match, he performed very well, making many crucial saves which saved Man United's goal from being conceded, Maguire was also starting to get better, he was even the MVP in that match. .

So I think Man United against Copenhagen, this match will be won by Man United, especially since this match will be played at home, of course this will be a special motivation to play in front of your own fans. I'm sure that Man United's downturn will slowly heal. Apart from wanting to secure second place in the group, in the UCL match, they also want this victory to raise their self-confidence before facing Man City next week.

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October 22, 2023, 01:42:58 PM
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Both Manchester United and Copenhagen won against weak clubs in their leagues, what do you think about the result of Manchester United vs Copenhagen? I predict the match will end in draw, since both of the clubs aren't strong enough. Bet on Manchester United to win is really not worth it since the odds is really low @1.36, while the odds for draw is @5.00.
Amrabat and Mctominay both players so far can able to performing well in the last 2 matches and besides them Maguire performance also has been showing good progress and this makes Manchester United can slightly bounce back and gets 2 winning streak in Premier League and indeed although Manchester United gets positive results but they haven't reach to their best performance and regarding the match against Copenhagen i think if Manchester United can able to displayed impressive performance just like when they showed in the last 2 matches i think it's not hard to beat Copenhagen but i have to says their chances to qualified to knockout stage will be very hard because so far Manchester United have already to gets 2 loses

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October 22, 2023, 01:50:25 PM
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Both Manchester United and Copenhagen won against weak clubs in their leagues, what do you think about the result of Manchester United vs Copenhagen? I predict the match will end in draw, since both of the clubs aren't strong enough. Bet on Manchester United to win is really not worth it since the odds is really low @1.36, while the odds for draw is @5.00.
Amrabat and Mctominay both players so far can able to performing well in the last 2 matches and besides them Maguire performance also has been showing good progress and this makes Manchester United can slightly bounce back and gets 2 winning streak in Premier League and indeed although Manchester United gets positive results but they haven't reach to their best performance and regarding the match against Copenhagen i think if Manchester United can able to displayed impressive performance just like when they showed in the last 2 matches i think it's not hard to beat Copenhagen but i have to says their chances to qualified to knockout stage will be very hard because so far Manchester United have already to gets 2 loses
I think Manchester United's motivation to win this match is very big because they have lost 2 times in the 2 matches they have played so if they don't manage to win this match it will be very difficult for them to qualify from the group.
And after seeing Manchester United's performance slowly improving in the last few matches, I think winning against Copenhagen is very possible.

Manchester United's performance is slowly starting to improve in my opinion and that will have a positive impact on the mentality and confidence of this team going into the next match and what you have to remember is that Manchester United is a big team that has a strong mentality on the UCl stage, so I have no doubts about them can get a win in the match against Copenhagen.
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October 22, 2023, 02:01:09 PM
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Both Manchester United and Copenhagen won against weak clubs in their leagues, what do you think about the result of Manchester United vs Copenhagen? I predict the match will end in draw, since both of the clubs aren't strong enough. Bet on Manchester United to win is really not worth it since the odds is really low @1.36, while the odds for draw is @5.00.
Haha, betting on Manchester United lately feels like playing Russian roulette! Last night's match was, let's be honest, a snooze fest. But then out of nowhere, Diego Dalot pulls that stunner. I almost spilled my drink! Still, their defense? Shaky. Dalot's blunder against Galatasaray is still fresh in my mind. They need to tighten up if they hope to stand a chance against Copenhagen. That said, those odds on a draw? Tempting

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October 22, 2023, 02:02:59 PM
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Everyone may know, but there may be surprises. Galatasaray is not a team to be underestimated and this game will be played at RAMS ARENA, so the results could be very different.
Everyone knows that Bayern Munich is a strong team and the favorite of the game, but we have a very good squad.
Champions League is event of surprises and shocking results with Galatasaray are surely one of the team which is now having chances for the qualifying into knock out stage with their win against Manchester United was impressive, but now they are going to host Bayern Munich which is having one of the best attack in UEFA, and they will be with their full strength in this game if Galatasaray able to handle them surely this could be great boost for them, but I have different view because their performance against Copenhagen was not as per required, so things could be not easy for them in this game.

But, here I have to clear one thing if they are able to do something impressive then surely this could be ticketed for them for the knock-out round, but this all is too early with Bayern Munich is surely going to have different plans.

Even though Galatasaray cannot be underestimated at all, but playing against Bayern Munich looks like it will still be difficult for Galatasaray to get full points when playing against Bayern Munich. But Indeed, I also know that Galatasaray managed to beat Manchester United, but we also cannot equate the quality of Bayern Munich with Manchester United at this moment . Because ya, of course Bayern Munich and Manchester United at this moment have at least different qualities. Anyway, if for example Galatasaray loses by Bayern Munich, but I sure that Galatasaray will still have a chance of qualifying for the last 16. Because of course, the runner up position in this group will be a struggle between Galatasaray and Manchester United.
Personally, I think Galatasaray is a tough team to predict in the UCL! With Harry Kane joining, Bayern Munich is definitely a force. Somewhat worried me, though, is Bayern's plan. Gallatasaray could use the fact that they are focusing on Kane to their advantage by making their defense stronger against him. Why doesn't Tuchel have a backup plan? It looks like we might be in for a treat! Although Galatasaray's win over Manchester United was amazing, Bayern is a completely different animal. Actually, even if Galatasaray loses, they still have a good chance of beating Manchester United and finishing second. We're looking forward to this group stage

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October 22, 2023, 02:05:18 PM
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I think Manchester United's motivation to win this match is very big because they have lost 2 times in the 2 matches they have played so if they don't manage to win this match it will be very difficult for them to qualify from the group.
And after seeing Manchester United's performance slowly improving in the last few matches, I think winning against Copenhagen is very possible.

I also see that Man United is now slowly starting to recover. Of course, this will also be motivated in the UCL league after losing the previous two matches, Manchester United's match against Capenhagen. They will try to win this match so that the hope of being in the UCL is still there. Moreover, currently Manchester United is at the bottom of the standings and has not won a single point, making this match the right moment to get up.

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Manchester United's performance is slowly starting to improve in my opinion and that will have a positive impact on the mentality and confidence of this team going into the next match and what you have to remember is that Manchester United is a big team that has a strong mentality on the UCl stage, so I have no doubts about them can get a win in the match against Copenhagen.

Manchester United hopes to achieve their first win in the UCL League in their third match. Three winning points are very meaningful for Man United so that they still have hope of qualifying for the knockout phase. My prediction in this match for Man United against Copenhagen is 2-0.

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October 22, 2023, 02:57:54 PM
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I think Manchester United's motivation to win this match is very big because they have lost 2 times in the 2 matches they have played so if they don't manage to win this match it will be very difficult for them to qualify from the group.
And after seeing Manchester United's performance slowly improving in the last few matches, I think winning against Copenhagen is very possible.

Manchester United's performance is slowly starting to improve in my opinion and that will have a positive impact on the mentality and confidence of this team going into the next match and what you have to remember is that Manchester United is a big team that has a strong mentality on the UCl stage, so I have no doubts about them can get a win in the match against Copenhagen.
It would be very embarrassing if Manchester United lost again in their next match against Copenhagen, especially when they were playing at Old Trafford. United must forget the two previous defeats and must focus on the match ahead, this match will really determine the next steps for Ten Hag squad. Even if they only draw, United has a chance of qualifying for the European League, not again the top 16 of the UCL. On paper United can get three points over Copenhagen even though many doubt it.

An important victory after the international break against Sheffield United, became valuable capital for Ten Hag squad as their performance improved slightly. However, Copenhagen cannot be taken lightly, the Danish representative could pull off a surprise like Galatasaray did previously.

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October 22, 2023, 03:13:08 PM
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Manchester United's performance is slowly starting to improve in my opinion and that will have a positive impact on the mentality and confidence of this team going into the next match and what you have to remember is that Manchester United is a big team that has a strong mentality on the UCl stage, so I have no doubts about them can get a win in the match against Copenhagen.
If Manchester United doesn't take advantage of this opportunity and can't win the match against Copenhagen, of course it will be difficult to get through the group, but if they get a win it might give them a small chance to get through the group, even though it will have to be a very hard fight because they have to beat Munich and Galatasaray in the next match with a possible aggregate provides a gap and opportunity to qualify.

I don't think that Copenhagen is a club that can be underestimated because they can definitely make it difficult for Manchester United to win, but if they really get up and play consistently they can definitely beat Copenhagen easily, you don't need to win big, just win narrowly 1 - 0 is more than enough, especially when playing at home as hosts, Manchester United must play as hard as possible to get the win if you really have a strong mentality.  Grin

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October 22, 2023, 03:15:36 PM
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Both Manchester United and Copenhagen won against weak clubs in their leagues, what do you think about the result of Manchester United vs Copenhagen? I predict the match will end in draw, since both of the clubs aren't strong enough. Bet on Manchester United to win is really not worth it since the odds is really low @1.36, while the odds for draw is @5.00.
Haha, betting on Manchester United lately feels like playing Russian roulette! Last night's match was, let's be honest, a snooze fest. But then out of nowhere, Diego Dalot pulls that stunner. I almost spilled my drink! Still, their defense? Shaky. Dalot's blunder against Galatasaray is still fresh in my mind. They need to tighten up if they hope to stand a chance against Copenhagen. That said, those odds on a draw? Tempting

It's good if you believe the match will end with a draw, because the odds are also very good of course @5.00. But for me personally, Manchester United still have a chance to win, because if Manchester United still fail to get points inthe match against Copenhagen later. Then ofcourse, Manchester United will lose the chance to qualify for the round of 16 or at least hope to finish inthird place. Although indeed, I also realize that Manchester United performance is still very unstable, but I still believe Manchester United have a good mentality in a competition like this. That way, Manchester United should be able to recover in this group phase and again make the hope of finishing as runner up to become  reality.

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October 22, 2023, 03:29:32 PM
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Both Manchester United and Copenhagen won against weak clubs in their leagues, what do you think about the result of Manchester United vs Copenhagen? I predict the match will end in draw, since both of the clubs aren't strong enough. Bet on Manchester United to win is really not worth it since the odds is really low @1.36, while the odds for draw is @5.00.
Haha, betting on Manchester United lately feels like playing Russian roulette! Last night's match was, let's be honest, a snooze fest. But then out of nowhere, Diego Dalot pulls that stunner. I almost spilled my drink! Still, their defense? Shaky. Dalot's blunder against Galatasaray is still fresh in my mind. They need to tighten up if they hope to stand a chance against Copenhagen. That said, those odds on a draw? Tempting

It's good if you believe the match will end with a draw, because the odds are also very good of course @5.00. But for me personally, Manchester United still have a chance to win, because if Manchester United still fail to get points inthe match against Copenhagen later. Then ofcourse, Manchester United will lose the chance to qualify for the round of 16 or at least hope to finish inthird place. Although indeed, I also realize that Manchester United performance is still very unstable, but I still believe Manchester United have a good mentality in a competition like this. That way, Manchester United should be able to recover in this group phase and again make the hope of finishing as runner up to become  reality.

@slapper I think this is not unrealistic for the game to end in a draw. Still I believe that Manchester United is the favorite, but obviously that is not surprising. But I thought they would be the favorite against Galatasaray as well and I thought they would be the huge favorite against Sheffield United this weekend. They won the game against Sheffield, but how? This was not a game in which the big favorite dominates the underdog. Copenhagen is hard to crack as they have shown against Bayern Munich.
I believe that Manchester United should understand they are in dire straits. There is no coming back from any result but a win. It is like a bias for me because every time I think they can't mess it up again and yet they do. That's why there is a chance they mess it up against Copenhagen.

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October 22, 2023, 03:32:48 PM
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If Manchester United doesn't take advantage of this opportunity and can't win the match against Copenhagen, of course it will be difficult to get through the group, but if they get a win it might give them a small chance to get through the group, even though it will have to be a very hard fight because they have to beat Munich and Galatasaray in the next match with a possible aggregate provides a gap and opportunity to qualify.

I don't think that Copenhagen is a club that can be underestimated because they can definitely make it difficult for Manchester United to win, but if they really get up and play consistently they can definitely beat Copenhagen easily, you don't need to win big, just win narrowly 1 - 0 is more than enough, especially when playing at home as hosts, Manchester United must play as hard as possible to get the win if you really have a strong mentality.  Grin
Manchester united would revive their hope of qualifying for the next round  if they best Copenhagen home/away, however Copenhagen is not an easy club to play against with the  style of football Manchester United is playing i doubt if United would be  able to win them in both games maybe they could win one and draw the other cause they don't even have a good defence line that would play week in an out due to numerous injuries from that position this season, and I feel that game could cause more injuries for Manchester United.

 It's too bad Manchester united has reduced to this level where they'll be hoping on a 1-0 win against Copenhagen, if it were in Sir Ferguson's era they would comfortably beat Copenhagen home/away and could probably be leading their group table, Erik Ten needs to change his strategy and trust in players like Gernacho and Erikson.

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