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October 14, 2023, 02:52:05 PM
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Bayern Munich and Galatasaray are gonna progress at the expense of Man United and Copenhagen.
It could be wise to take Manchester United out of the picture, in terms of teams that won't qualify in that group, but in my opinion, I can't specifically say that Galatasaray and Bayern Munich will only scale through and take Copenhagen for granted. So for me, both Galatasaray and Copenhagen have an equal chance of qualifying in that group alongside Bayern, regardless of which team is ahead of the other in their group table.


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October 14, 2023, 03:06:57 PM
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Obviously Copenhagen has 1 point while Manchester United has 0 points and this means Copenhagen's position at the moment is better than that of Manchester United. But Manchester United still has both games to go against Copenhagen, which means with the next two games they can turn this around and at least secure the third rank in the table for the time being. But Copenhagen isn't Manchester United's biggest problem. The real problem is Galatasaray because they are stronger than Manchester United has anticipated. They clearly underestimated the Turkish team. Their defense is pure stability as can be seen in the Turkish league and their attack is good enough to overcome the defense of the Red Devils. Assuming that they win both of their games against Copenhagen, the problem with Galatasaray is still unsolved. The real showdown will take place in Turkey.
If Manchester United is able to overcome Copenhagen in two matches, it will not be enough to get them into the last 16 because they have only collected six points. United other two matches will still be against Galatasaray and Bayern Munchen, after seeing the previous failures that United received from these two clubs, it is difficult to say that Ten Hag squad can turn things around. Even though the opportunity to qualify from the group phase is still open for United, I think it is very small, because they have to depend on the defeat of the other three clubs.

Perhaps the most realistic thing for United is to finish in third place and continue their journey in the Europa League, however, all possibilities can still happen in these four matches, who knows, United can go further by achieving positive results after many doubted them.

Yes but the next two games are both against Bayern Munich for Galatasaray and if Manchester United is able to win both games against Copenhagen while Galatasaray loses both games against Bayern Munich, the group would be extremely close. It is still not over yet although Galatasaray has it in their own hands. If they can tie one of those games against Bayern Munich, I think it's almost impossible for Manchester United to recover from their situation. I think in this group we will have a final showdown on the last game day for certain. A little bit of hope is still left because Galatasaray did not win their home game against Copenhagen. That could be a small detail that might be against Galatasaray eventually.

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October 14, 2023, 03:43:35 PM
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Bayern Munich and Galatasaray are gonna progress at the expense of Man United and Copenhagen.
It could be wise to take Manchester United out of the picture, in terms of teams that won't qualify in that group, but in my opinion, I can't specifically say that Galatasaray and Bayern Munich will only scale through and take Copenhagen for granted. So for me, both Galatasaray and Copenhagen have an equal chance of qualifying in that group alongside Bayern, regardless of which team is ahead of the other in their group table.


Looking at the Group A standings after completing the first two matches, only Bayern Munchen can be said to have a bigger chance than the other three clubs, namely Galatasaray, Copenhagen and Man United. I think Munchen can qualify from the group phase even though they are not the leaders of the standings, and the runner-up slot is still likely to be contested by others, but for now Galatasaray looks more promising than Copenhagen and United. Maybe all predictions regarding who will qualify for the next stage will be clear when matchday three is finished, and we can see a clear picture on the standings board.

Munchen will visit Galatasaray headquarters, on paper Thomas Tuchel squad can get full points. Likewise Man United will host Copenhagen at Old Trafford, I would also say United can secure full points. I certainly haven't forgotten about the various surprises that could happen, but looking at the depth of the Munchen and United squads they should be able to do it.

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October 14, 2023, 04:04:54 PM
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Bayern Munich and Galatasaray are gonna progress at the expense of Man United and Copenhagen.
Mere looking at group A UCL, it's simple to draw out the maps of teams that would make it out and the ones that will be pushed to Europa League, but the system doesn't work like that because we have alot to learn. Bayern Munich ranked first, followed by Galatasaray that are sitting second on the table, the other two teams would struggle in the second legs because they have priorities to reach this season. My major pressing concerns is on Manchester United because they're weigh below the standards of competitive matches, total reluctance and fatigue hits the players, perhaps there's still hope for the Red Devils.

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October 14, 2023, 04:08:25 PM
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It could be wise to take Manchester United out of the picture, in terms of teams that won't qualify in that group, but in my opinion, I can't specifically say that Galatasaray and Bayern Munich will only scale through and take Copenhagen for granted. So for me, both Galatasaray and Copenhagen have an equal chance of qualifying in that group alongside Bayern, regardless of which team is ahead of the other in their group table.
If we talk about opportunities, in fact Manchester United also still has a chance at this time if Manchester United can win the four remaining matches in the group stage. But that is a very small possibility for Manchester United to get it, because in those four matches Manchester United will still meet Bayern Munich, who are currently still unbeaten in Group A. Apart from that, I still have doubts about Copenhagen's performance even though Copenhagen had draw at home to Galatasaray.
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October 14, 2023, 04:16:19 PM
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Manchester United remaining four points left from Galatasaray who settled on 2nd standings position, with four matches left still have opportunity for qualifying to 16 round, must winning all matches left actually next match against Copenhagen. Loss two matches in a row give difficult position for Manchester United and their opportunity lead to 16 round, but United need help from Bayern Munich take three points against Galatasaray and give Manchester United cut off difference points.

Erik ten Hag must motovate his team keep optimistic with three points achievement on next match, if loss three points or get one points against Copenhange seems difficult for managing to 16 round.
MU must show the quality of their own game to the maximum. play well and get the win. No need to think too much about the results from Munich. the most important thing is that they have to win first, and hope that there is still a chance to qualify.
but I have a feeling that this will be quite difficult for MU, they may have to fight again for the Europa League if they are eliminated from the Champions League. currently the biggest possibility that Ten Hag and his team can have is that. It's not that there's no chance, but I think the best possibility for MU is the Europa League.
This is important but the results of Bayern and Galatasaray also determine whether or not they can still contribute well to this group stage in the end.
They must win against Copenhagen but on the other hand they must also expect Galatasaray to lose their match against Bayern so that they are not too far from the gap with Galatasaray later.
Let go of Bayern because they are at a different level because there is no way they will be able to compete for the first place in this group especially when the opponent is Bayern but they can still fight for second place and that must be proven with a victory against Copenhagen and Galatasaray in the second leg later.

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October 14, 2023, 04:20:31 PM
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Bayern Munich and Galatasaray are gonna progress at the expense of Man United and Copenhagen.
It could be wise to take Manchester United out of the picture, in terms of teams that won't qualify in that group, but in my opinion, I can't specifically say that Galatasaray and Bayern Munich will only scale through and take Copenhagen for granted. So for me, both Galatasaray and Copenhagen have an equal chance of qualifying in that group alongside Bayern, regardless of which team is ahead of the other in their group table.


Munchen will visit Galatasaray headquarters, on paper Thomas Tuchel squad can get full points. Likewise Man United will host Copenhagen at Old Trafford, I would also say United can secure full points. I certainly haven't forgotten about the various surprises that could happen, but looking at the depth of the Munchen and United squads they should be able to do it.
Indeed, if you look at the two squads, Bayern Munich and Manchester United should be in first and second place to qualify for the next round.
And for Bayern Munich I am sure they will get full points when facing Galatasaray, the most important thing is to strengthen their defense because Galatasaray always takes advantage of counter attacks which are quite troublesome.
And Manchester United must be able to get full points at Old Trafford to host Copenhagen, and even though it is unlikely, I hope that in the remaining group A matches, Manchester United can give a surprise by finishing second.

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October 14, 2023, 04:35:27 PM
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I don't think there's anything strange about that, because scoring a goal or a lot of goals doesn't guarantee they can win the game, right? We can see from the results of their first match against Bayern Munich. They scored 3 goals, but Bayern Munich scored 4. Against Galatasay it was the same, they could create 2 goals but Galatasaray could create more than what they could create so that made Manchester United lose the match.
0 points from 2 matches, that's not a good result, and they are in danger of packing their bags and not making it to the knockout stages.
Its not really important with Manchester United player Rasmus Hojlund lead top scorer awhile in Champion League after scoring three goals but not guarantee with his team will qualify to the next round or not. Most important thing not only how many goals scoring but also Manchester United have to try without conceded any goal yet if want get placed on 16 round. Manchester United played two matches but still not get points yet, upcoming match face Copenhagen is important match for recovery and first three points will help United chance qualifying to next round or have eliminated early in Champion League competition. Beside try to score as many possible goals, Manchester United should strong in defense area how to secure their winning match.
I am not sure of the fact that United will be able to qualify for the next round of the tournament,they have two players who are currently topping the highest goal scoring charts,but I just think those number of goals that they've scored are the only ones they are going to score because they will soon be eliminated from the tournament if they don't stand their ground in making sure they win the next match they would play.Copehaghen is not a small team thet Man U can just win like that,they need to be very sharp in both attack and defence to ensure they clinge victory in that encounter.I just pray United qualifies,but their chances of qualifying are very slim.
How many goals being made by united didn't even matter if the club was keep loosing against another club. The most important thing in the group stage was not how many goals being made but how consistent the team can acquire full points from its opponent. Manchester united was always struggling to face its opponent and it makes me feel quite scared to see that. To be honest if manchester united didn't have good defenders materials to stay in UCL even longer.
Manchester united needs to urges its defender to perform as good as they can when the club will face copenhagen as its opponent. Copen hagen might not be familiar for us but this club is quite strong like galatasaray.
Manchester united needs to be careful or it will miss another three points from copenhagen. Manchester united is having too many weakness spots at this moment. it's even hard to describe how manchester united can solve this problem.
It sounds like that everything about united is going down.

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October 14, 2023, 04:44:50 PM
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I personally do not think Manchester United is actually going to finish in any kind of respectable position in the Champions League. They will be very lucky to actually finish in any kind of decent position in the English Premier League. Expecting anything from Manchester United in the Champions League is actually a dumb expectation in my opinion.

Yes, they do have a chance against Copenhagen. But the way they have been inconsistent, it is probably not a good idea to expect a win from them to be honest. There is nothing to be surprised if the match ends in a draw. And personally, I will not be surprised if they actually end up losing the match.
It's very true Manchester united have been characterized with so much of inconsistency recently but then the issues leading to this inconstancy is something they can definitely resolve before the season comes to an end and possibly before mid season they should be able to get themselves fixed if Erik ten hag gets to work as quickly as possible.

With Copenhagen they would most definitely utilize that opportunity and probably kick start their new streaks of winning from there if only they change their strategy or tactics and get the players in their right position with perfect combination aswell. The defence system is another aspect of the team Erik ten hag have to work on seriously els he will continue conceding more goals and may hardly secure wins, the defense is so weak they it will cost stronger team less efforts to break in. But with good improvement I'm sure the red devils still have a chance to secure a good position in the UCl as they still gat some good number of game to play.

Well, I think that Manchester United has a match against Sheffield United, which is going to be played two days ahead of the match against Copenhagen. I will say that Manchester United is going to lose at least one of them. My best guess is there will lose one and win one between these two. Either they are winning the match against Sheffield United and performing/losing against Copenhagen or vice versa. With the inconsistency that Manchester United has right now, I do not believe that they will be able to win both of them, especially when they will be played with only two days of difference.

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October 14, 2023, 04:50:56 PM
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MU must show the quality of their own game to the maximum. play well and get the win. No need to think too much about the results from Munich. the most important thing is that they have to win first, and hope that there is still a chance to qualify.
but I have a feeling that this will be quite difficult for MU, they may have to fight again for the Europa League if they are eliminated from the Champions League. currently the biggest possibility that Ten Hag and his team can have is that. It's not that there's no chance, but I think the best possibility for MU is the Europa League.
You seems to be really sure if Manchester United at least will be in the top 3, don't underestimate Copenhagen since they can still able to compete against Galatasaray while Manchester United can't. There's a possibility Manchester United would be in the bottom and not enter Europa league.

Manchester United is really struggle due to lack of good player, so it's not something could be easily solved.
Im eagerly waiting for copenhagen to take full points from MU and everything is end for united. It will not also able to be qualified for europa league since MU will be on the last position. Im anticipating the same result like the match against galatasaray.
MU will be playing away soon. Im always hoping copenhagen to take full points. Im ready to risking myself to pick copenhagen/btts for the upcoming match.

Im waiting for such moment to come and then MU fans will boo its coach and said TENHAGOUT. When that moment will come and it will be crazy to see so many criticisms will come toward him.
Ten hag needs to prepare himself for that moment.

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October 14, 2023, 04:52:17 PM
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Qualifying for Manchester is very slim as they would have to win all four remaining matches to be able to fully qualified for the knockouts stage of Wich the chance this happens is very slim, because other teams in the group are also hoping to win to qualify so they will be putting up their best performance to get a win or draw in their every game
Manchester United remain in a really tough position and will find it difficult but not impossible to qualify from the group they are in. They can win all their next four games if the players play with urgency and a sense of necessity. Manchester United were able to score against Bayern Munich and the result was not so poor, the way we expected, and against Galatasaray, poor defending was what made them loose, they still did not have a challenge scoring. So if Manchester United can fix their errors, they can win their remaining games.

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October 14, 2023, 04:58:31 PM
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Qualifying for Manchester is very slim as they would have to win all four remaining matches to be able to fully qualified for the knockouts stage of Wich the chance this happens is very slim, because other teams in the group are also hoping to win to qualify so they will be putting up their best performance to get a win or draw in their every game
Manchester United remain in a really tough position and will find it difficult but not impossible to qualify from the group they are in. They can win all their next four games if the players play with urgency and a sense of necessity. Manchester United were able to score against Bayern Munich and the result was not so poor, the way we expected, and against Galatasaray, poor defending was what made them loose, they still did not have a challenge scoring. So if Manchester United can fix their errors, they can win their remaining games.

I dont think they will be able to pull through and get that second position. For me Galatasaray has good quality and their moral after winning against Man Utd is big. Bayern Munich will for sure take the first place but i think Man Utd with Ten Hag dont have the power to turn this season in the champions league around.

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October 14, 2023, 05:05:56 PM
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Bayern Munich and Galatasaray are gonna progress at the expense of Man United and Copenhagen.
Mere looking at group A UCL, it's simple to draw out the maps of teams that would make it out and the ones that will be pushed to Europa League, but the system doesn't work like that because we have alot to learn. Bayern Munich ranked first, followed by Galatasaray that are sitting second on the table, the other two teams would struggle in the second legs because they have priorities to reach this season. My major pressing concerns is on Manchester United because they're weigh below the standards of competitive matches, total reluctance and fatigue hits the players, perhaps there's still hope for the Red Devils.
4 matches is enough to change everything, so I agree that there is still hope for Manchester United to qualify from the group stage even though they have not been able to collect any points from the 2 matches they have completed.
But it is not that easy to do so, because Galatasaray who in the first match defeated Manchester United will be as much as possible to maintain its position in the standings in order to qualify from the group phase. Mamchester United will have to change a lot of things from their game if they want to qualify.

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October 14, 2023, 05:07:37 PM
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Man United still has a chance in the Champions League, especially if they can continue to win in their remaining matches. This is not an easy target considering that their performance has not looked consistent to date. As long as they can get the full 6 points against Copenhagen, then their opportunities are still quite open. But if they fail to get these 6 points, they will most likely be eliminated from the Champions League.
Manchester United still has a chance of qualifying for the knockout phase of the last 16 of the Champions League because they still have four matches remaining, but they must win all the remaining matches. Looking at Manchester United's performance so far, which has not consistently maintained its best performance, the chances they have are very small, especially since they have to undergo two tough matches when they host Bayern Munich and visit Galatasaray headquarters.

Ten Hag must take advantage of the match against Copenhagen to get their first points. A victory over Copenhagen could increase the enthusiasm of Manchester United players to maintain their chances considering that they have lost their first two matches. The opportunity for Manchester United to overtake Galatasaray in second place, which has only collected 4 points, is very open if they can achieve two wins against Copenhagen. Moreover, at the same time Galatasaray has to play two matches against Bayern Munich, the potential for losing points could happen to Galatasaray.

Yes actually, the gap of 4 points is not that big, and Manchester United still have a chance. If Galatasaray loses at next match against Bayern Munich and Manchester United wins the match against Conpenhagen, then their gap point will only be one point different. Also, later Galatasaray will meet again against Manchester United, and that is a golden opportunity for the Red Devils to secure three points. But considering the Red Devils poor performance, I am not too sure they can win against Galatasaray at RAMS Park. Galatasaray will probably be more motivated to win that game, considering also previously they can able to beat the Red Devils at Old Trafford.

Manchester United do not deserve to play in the Champions League in the next stage. they are the only team in group A with zero points. The way they have performed, it is not justifiable by anyone. Another thing is Ten Hag got the money that he wanted, he got the players that he wanted and he got the time that he wanted. But he is still unable to bring in good results for Manchester United. I don't know what excuse he's going to give now. Especially when he has been making bad decisions consistently as the coach of Manchester United.

I actually  do not think that Manchester United will be able to have a dominant performance against Copenhagen.

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October 14, 2023, 05:26:48 PM
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Qualifying for Manchester is very slim as they would have to win all four remaining matches to be able to fully qualified for the knockouts stage of Wich the chance this happens is very slim, because other teams in the group are also hoping to win to qualify so they will be putting up their best performance to get a win or draw in their every game
Manchester United remain in a really tough position and will find it difficult but not impossible to qualify from the group they are in. They can win all their next four games if the players play with urgency and a sense of necessity. Manchester United were able to score against Bayern Munich and the result was not so poor, the way we expected, and against Galatasaray, poor defending was what made them loose, they still did not have a challenge scoring. So if Manchester United can fix their errors, they can win their remaining games.

Manchester United can try their hardest to win their next four matches in order to qualify for the round of 16 in the Champions League, but it will be very difficult for them to defeat Bayern Munich because Bayern is in good form this season and Galatasaray is playing well as well. I don't think Manchester United will qualify easily, but I believe they will try their hardest to win all of their remaining matches in order to qualify, Even when they are performing poorly in the league, they can perform well when they return from the international break. The coach should speak with Onana about not making unnecessary mistakes because it is one of Manchester United's problems this season, I wish De Gea was still at Manchester United the issue of the goalkeeping problems will be solved they will just focus on strikers.

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October 14, 2023, 05:39:40 PM
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Arsenal did not score any points when playing away in France,in London in their first game they crashed PSV by winning 4-0 and I doubt Sevilla waits a different fate from that of PSV.Sevilla is in an even weaker form than PSV and they may risk to be drown much further deep and Arsenal may entertain themselves with a lot of goals scored.

I don't see any randomness element or surprise element that would make Arsenal not win this game so I agree with the bookies,most likely there will be very modest odds to them for this game.
Sometimes I'm a little confused about who is the strongest between Sevilla and Arsenal, whereas Arsenal is very clear that in the future this club will be the leader to qualify for the next round, but up to now Sevilla for me is still inconsistent or seems unstable even though they haven't been beaten yet, but there are doubts. comes when I think about how strong Arsenal is in this champions league even though Lens will also be a candidate to qualify for the next round but Arsenal is more worthy.
In the upcoming match it looks like I will have a little difficulty placing a bet but I will wait for other information here to see whatever is happening to determine my prediction and for the moment I think the two clubs are a draw.

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October 14, 2023, 05:42:02 PM
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Arsenal did not score any points when playing away in France,in London in their first game they crashed PSV by winning 4-0 and I doubt Sevilla waits a different fate from that of PSV.Sevilla is in an even weaker form than PSV and they may risk to be drown much further deep and Arsenal may entertain themselves with a lot of goals scored.

I don't see any randomness element or surprise element that would make Arsenal not win this game so I agree with the bookies,most likely there will be very modest odds to them for this game.
Sometimes I'm a little confused about who is the strongest between Sevilla and Arsenal, whereas Arsenal is very clear that in the future this club will be the leader to qualify for the next round, but up to now Sevilla for me is still inconsistent or seems unstable even though they haven't been beaten yet, but there are doubts. comes when I think about how strong Arsenal is in this champions league even though Lens will also be a candidate to qualify for the next round but Arsenal is more worthy.
In the upcoming match it looks like I will have a little difficulty placing a bet but I will wait for other information here to see whatever is happening to determine my prediction and for the moment I think the two clubs are a draw.
The Sevilla team has performed somewhat worse this season than last season. So the coach of the team needs to identify the weaknesses of the team and work on them a lot as the season still has many more matches left.

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October 14, 2023, 05:46:03 PM
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Sevilla and Arsenal may look good but lets not forget about Lens, they managed to beat Arsenal, not that I am saying they will keep doing that, but they already got a decent chunk of points, and they may get some more, I am guessing that they will make it hard for other teams. In that case, Lens and Arsenal going up, and Sevilla going back to Europa would be so funny to see.

There is a reason why people call it "the sevilla cup" and that would be fun to see. They are much more comfortable there and they have won it so many times, most recently the last one, and they could keep doing fine there as well. If they keep going with UCL then I am sure that they will lose next stage right away, but if they go back down to europa cup then there is at least a chance that they may do well. This season I am sure even Europa cup will be a hard one since there are so many good teams, but not like Sevilla hasn't beaten any good teams there before, they may do it again.
I think it would be very interesting to see Sevilla return to the European League and win the title again in that competition.  Cheesy
And actually, in the match against Arsenal, Sevilla is expected to have difficulties and will ultimately lose. Sevilla will indeed play as hosts but this will not change the fact that Sevilla's performance this season is quite bad. Even in Laliga, it turns out that Sevilla is currently ranked 14th. This is different from Arsenal, which is currently ranked 2nd in the Premier League standings.

Arsenal have never even lost at this point in the Premier League. and in their latest match they also managed to beat last season's Champions League champions, namely Man City. But losing to Lens in the UCL really made everyone doubt Arsenal in the UCL. But Arsenal should still be the favorite when facing Sevilla.

Lens is currently at the top of the group right now. Arsenal is right below them. The point difference is absolutely minimal between all the teams in this group. The points are 4,3,2,1 for Lens, Arsenal, Sevilla and PSV.  If I am not wrong, this is actually the most competitive group in the Champions League competition in terms of points alongside group F. Which also has a similar points between all the teams and in that group, all the teams are really big.

Arsenal is definitely performing really well in English Premier League. But I wonder if they will actually be able to transition that good performance into the Champions League. Because both are very different kind of competitions.

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October 14, 2023, 05:58:02 PM
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I can say that Arsenal will win other matches, but in the case of Sevilla I am not sure, they are quite a strong opponent, despite the fact that they will play their last match before the Champions League against Real Madrid. I'm sure they will be able to give their best in both matches and do it successfully
Arsenal and Sevilla are competitive this season, they are favorites to qualify from the Champions league group B because they're fierce in performance and have the necessary qualities to explore in games. Perhaps Arsenal currently second with 3 points while Sevilla have 2 points, the team topping is Lens with 4 points rank, though the resulrs is shocking. This is UCL and there's alot of things that need to comprehended when it comes to UCL games, no room to underrated any team, results doesn't go according to plans, rather it moves to were it feels is suited.

It's entirely possible that Lance won't make it out of the group, but it's likely to be either a fluke or a mistake by their opponents. I'm leaning towards the second option and believe that Sevilla and Arsenal will get out of the group 100%. Lance were clearly not favourites against Arsenal, they only had 33% possession of the ball and were inferior to Arsenal in all aspects of the game
Ain't football the wildest ride? Lance is the underdog, and I've always liked football's surprises. We're all watching Arsenal and Sevilla await the giants' fight, but what if Lens kept their lead? Was their current status unexpected to most of us?

Lens pushing ahead on points is like the quiet kid at school aced a test; you didn't see it coming, but you're proud. But seriously, Sevilla and Arsenal have experience in the tough group stages. They're giants because of their history, heritage, and skills. However, we should watch that underdog since surprises happen!

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October 14, 2023, 05:59:41 PM
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Asides of the reining team of Manchester City i dotn see another team in that level to be a contender for this Champions League, maybe if Real Madrid with Bellingham still in this apce can have a chance, but they need a real number 9 you cant play with Joselu in this level.

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