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October 13, 2023, 04:43:59 AM
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The comparison is quite striking even though Sevilla is playing home in this match.
Arsenal are definitely favorites, it's just that when looking at the final results in the 2nd match against Lens and Sevilla's conditions which are sometimes difficult to guess, things like this could backfire for betors considering we know that sometimes Sevilla, especially when facing EPL clubs, are quite surprising, especially when playing at home.
But indeed Arsenal's odds are quite tempting at the moment and I will also definitely set aside a little for this bet even though the Arsenal bet will only be a single bet because my multi bet was destroyed because of Arsenal in the previous week 2.

I think, draw 1-1 is possible in this match because Sevilla are good in using home advantage to play their opponent to secure victory at the end, which they will definitely apply it to Arsenal but they don't have the strength to stop Arsenal not to score goal from their home. I know Sevilla will lead the match in the first half base on some kind players their coach is going to use to start the match to ensure they make all the position difficult for Arsenal players and to reduce their strength not to perform very well through out the match. I don't think, Sevilla will be afraid of Arsenal in this match based on the victory Arsenal achieved in their home to defeated mighty Manchester city 1-0 in the premier league competition to embraced the three points.

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October 13, 2023, 06:30:42 AM
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When it comes to Sevilla I would like to add a piece of information for the discussion. Sevilla have just replaced their manager with Diego Alonso. Mendilibar also lasted for a really short time. He won the Europa League title with this team but he was still sent from the team early in the season.

Diego Alonso is going to manage a European team for the first time in his career. For now it is difficult to predict what Sevilla can do from now on. They are going to play the toughest matches of the group two times in a row. I won't be surprised if Sevilla continue in the Europa League as usual. I assume they would do their thing there and be competitive for the title once again.  Smiley

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October 13, 2023, 07:36:28 AM
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Sevilla is the home team, and it will be very difficult for Arsenal to play this match away. But before this match, Sevilla will have a very difficult match in La Liga with Real Madrid, so Arsenal can count on the fact that Sevilla can spend a lot of effort in this match, although perhaps for Sevilla in this case the Champions League match will be a priority. Before the match with Sevilla, Arsenal will face Chelsea, perhaps not the most difficult opponent, but in recent matches they have begun to play better.
away matches will always be a scary match for any team, even Arsenal will definitely have a little difficulty beating Sevilla but Arteta hope is to at least end in a draw to get additional points rather than losing against Sevilla.

I slightly disagree with your statement about Sevilla going to compete in the domestic league using up all their players and it not be that easy because Diego Alonso will arrange for second tier players to play in domestic league matches or the main players will not appear in the match. so Sevilla will prioritize UCL matches over domestic league matches and rest key players.

and conversely Arsenal will also compete in the domestic league but of course Arteta has a way of not spending too much energy and doing the same thing as Sevilla.
so domestic league matches will not affect performance in the UCL because every coach has thought about maintaining the performance of his players.

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October 13, 2023, 07:44:59 AM
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I think Arsenal is in the luckiest group because the other 3 teams are weaker than them. I still think about how they lost to Lens. Lens are in a bad situation in League 1, but we can also say that they are fully concentrating on the UCL. They are currently leaders in the group with 4 points from 2 matches.
Arsenal still often experience consistency problems, last season they had the chance to win the EPL, but in the second half of the season they often made mistakes, so the standings were taken over by Man. City. Lens, which is not performing well in the French league, might be used to focus on the UCL. At least they can put pressure on other teams to qualify for the knockout phase. The inconsistencies often experienced by Arsenal were successfully exploited by Lens to get points from the match. I believe this victory has given Lens confidence to accompany Arsenal as a team to qualify for the next phase.

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October 13, 2023, 08:09:07 AM
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So Arsenal will Rather fight for a draw than loose because if they draw they will be on four points and still remain second position in the group which will still be considered fair for them and keep them hopeful to make it pass the group stage, this is UCL and only the best is what teams give out and so I'm very sure if arsenal should be giving only but their best then Sevilla doesn't stand a place then because Arsenals best is way beyond Sevilla's best.
Arsenal will qualify first in Group B. Lens won vs Arsenal but they aren't fit to keep winning in my opinion. Their results in Ligue 1 aren't good at all also. PSV Eindhoven is a good team but with lower quality than Arsenal. Sevilla are good too but not that good to end first in my opinion.
Arsenal first, Sevilla second for me and if Lens could keep good results, they might pick the second spot.

Arsenal will definitely win over Sevilla in their next match because even their last match together with the Sevilla club, Arsenal gave them a 6 win over 0. I believe that spirit is still there and they won't even want to draw again. This is couple with the fact that Bukayo Saka will be back in form already before them and Arsenal will feel more Honourable to lead the table over Lens. Well it all depends on their efforts. Let's watch and see before jumping the guns.
You meant the result from the emirates cup, right? The result was happening last year but i hope there will be something different from sevilla. Arsenal is far superior in this match but arteta's club shall not also underestimate its opponent.
The same result against lens may happen if arsenal will make some blunders. It's hard to pick the club between both. Arsenal obviously lead the game in this match.
Sevilla is still struggling with its performance and i think if it will be wise if i will pick the host instead of sevilla. It seems like that what you have said will be coming true.
Arsenal may be humiliating sevilla again. The result from emirates cup is a sense thing to judge the result from upcoming game. Sevilla needs to be careful caused by arsenal will be making a lot of attack.

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October 13, 2023, 08:11:41 AM
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The comparison is quite striking even though Sevilla is playing home in this match.
Arsenal are definitely favorites, it's just that when looking at the final results in the 2nd match against Lens and Sevilla's conditions which are sometimes difficult to guess, things like this could backfire for betors considering we know that sometimes Sevilla, especially when facing EPL clubs, are quite surprising, especially when playing at home.
But indeed Arsenal's odds are quite tempting at the moment and I will also definitely set aside a little for this bet even though the Arsenal bet will only be a single bet because my multi bet was destroyed because of Arsenal in the previous week 2.
Even though Sevilla is quite at home, I don't think Arsenal will be as disappointing this time as before when they lost against Lens. What is certain is that Arsenal needs points to maintain their probability of qualifying for the last 16 and there is no way they will lose this match. It is quite difficult to determine the outcome of betting on this match and the safest is BTTS because both teams will definitely score goals against each other. It is possible that the score will end in a narrow 1-2 win for Arsenal. There is nothing else that makes Arsenal lose this match and we can see their motivation increasing after winning over their rivals in the domestic league last week.

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October 13, 2023, 08:21:10 AM
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Even though Sevilla is quite at home, I don't think Arsenal will be as disappointing this time as before when they lost against Lens. What is certain is that Arsenal needs points to maintain their probability of qualifying for the last 16 and there is no way they will lose this match. It is quite difficult to determine the outcome of betting on this match and the safest is BTTS because both teams will definitely score goals against each other. It is possible that the score will end in a narrow 1-2 win for Arsenal. There is nothing else that makes Arsenal lose this match and we can see their motivation increasing after winning over their rivals in the domestic league last week.
Sevilla also same, they also need points to overtake Arsenal and qualify for the next round, so it's not a thing should be discussed.

But if we look at the squad, Sevilla will play without Erik Lamela, this is bad because Lamela is one of Sevilla's key player. While Arsenal will play with their good players, Saka will back after next few days. Arsenal will win with small margin like one or two goal(s).

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October 13, 2023, 08:30:47 AM
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Even though Sevilla have not won a single match from the two group stage matches, I am sure that Arsenal will never easily beat them at the Ramon Sanchez-Pizjuan Stadium. I do remember how strong Sevilla were last season in Europe until they knocked out Manchester United, so Arsenal need to be wary of losing instead of being confident of winning.
True, Sevilla got 2 draws but it means they are undefeated. Arsenal surely can't underestimate Sevilla, this team always has the chance to surprise any team in the international competitions like UCL. Moreover, the next match will be in Sevilla home, they must target for full points (win). If Arsenal isn't ready 100% for the next match, it is not impossible if they lost points again.
Sevilla is not weak team and Arsenal could be beaten by Sevilla because this season Sevilla doesn't seem to want to be eliminated from the UCL even though in the Spanish League they don't appear very satisfactory but looking at their two matches in this group phase it is clear that Sevilla also wants to qualify for next round.
Arsenal must remain careful and focused on their defense because Sevilla will more often provide surprising counter-attacks and possibly make Arsenal defense feel pressured.

I think Sevilla can get points in their home game against Arsenal regardless of whether it is 1 point or 3 points. If the match ends in a draw, then of course that's fair, but if Arsenal loses then I think that's really bad for Arsenal.
Agree, it is possible that Sevilla gets points whether 1 or 3.
If it really happens, Arsenal isn't safe. They has a chance to be eliminated in this round.  Grin
Yes that why I said that Arsenal must be careful and focused in fact they must not underestimate Sevilla because if they lose and Sevilla can save points then they will be big threat to Arsenal.

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October 13, 2023, 08:42:00 AM
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Even though Sevilla is quite at home, I don't think Arsenal will be as disappointing this time as before when they lost against Lens. What is certain is that Arsenal needs points to maintain their probability of qualifying for the last 16 and there is no way they will lose this match. It is quite difficult to determine the outcome of betting on this match and the safest is BTTS because both teams will definitely score goals against each other. It is possible that the score will end in a narrow 1-2 win for Arsenal. There is nothing else that makes Arsenal lose this match and we can see their motivation increasing after winning over their rivals in the domestic league last week.
Sevilla also same, they also need points to overtake Arsenal and qualify for the next round, so it's not a thing should be discussed.

But if we look at the squad, Sevilla will play without Erik Lamela, this is bad because Lamela is one of Sevilla's key player. While Arsenal will play with their good players, Saka will back after next few days. Arsenal will win with small margin like one or two goal(s).
Sevilla don't often lose at home, although Arsenal are a very strong club at the moment. But I don't think Arsenal will necessarily win. I think this match could be a draw. Sevilla drew at home against group leader Lens, and Arsenal lost away to them. I think it's not all bad for Sevilla, although of course Arsenal are favourites.

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October 13, 2023, 08:49:26 AM
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In Group B, there will be an interesting game between Arsenal and Sevilla, Sevilla fired their coach because of the bad performance they had in La Liga in the past and they surely want to get better results in the Champions League too but Arsenal is the team they won the game against Manchester City and in this season, Arsenal had an amazing performance so far which enough to say they won't have a hard game against Sevilla. The last time they faced each other was the Europe League in which Sevilla won the game and now this is a good chance for Arsenal to take revenge.

Even though Arsenal has a stronger chance of beating Sevilla in the Champions League, this match is extremely difficult to predict. Despite Sevilla's recent terrible performance, which led to the sacking of their coach, I don't think Arsenal will have an easy time winning them. They are the Europa League favourites, but now that they are in the Champions League, they will want to do everything they can to enhance their play in order to advance to the next round (knockout stage) of the competition. Arsenal will come for nothing less than a win, which means they will have to put in more effort in order to defeat Sevilla. Sevilla might still be regaining their form for now first since after sacking their coach but that is not enough condition to feel that Arsenal can win them easily in this match.

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October 13, 2023, 09:18:19 AM
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In Group B, there will be an interesting game between Arsenal and Sevilla, Sevilla fired their coach because of the bad performance they had in La Liga in the past and they surely want to get better results in the Champions League too but Arsenal is the team they won the game against Manchester City and in this season, Arsenal had an amazing performance so far which enough to say they won't have a hard game against Sevilla. The last time they faced each other was the Europe League in which Sevilla won the game and now this is a good chance for Arsenal to take revenge.

Even though Arsenal has a stronger chance of beating Sevilla in the Champions League, this match is extremely difficult to predict. Despite Sevilla's recent terrible performance, which led to the sacking of their coach, I don't think Arsenal will have an easy time winning them. They are the Europa League favourites, but now that they are in the Champions League, they will want to do everything they can to enhance their play in order to advance to the next round (knockout stage) of the competition. Arsenal will come for nothing less than a win, which means they will have to put in more effort in order to defeat Sevilla. Sevilla might still be regaining their form for now first since after sacking their coach but that is not enough condition to feel that Arsenal can win them easily in this match.
Personally I thinking sacking of the coach was the wrong move for Sevilla at this time as that will be counter productive, the January transfer window would have been a better time as the players will currently have it difficult trying to cope and Arsenal could capitalize on that as an advantage to probably get a win from this match as it's very important to them.

Surely both teams will not find it easy as both teams are determined to get a win from the match or nothing, it may be difficult but I still think arsenal is still in the best position to win despite Sevilla home advantage, Arsenal is still better going by their records at england where they are doing so well but Sevilla isn't doing same at their own domestic league.

But then a draw is very possible but then I'm keep an open mind to this game, I personally will predict that both team are going to have a goal just to be on the safer side because even if they will get a draw I'm optimistic it won't be a goalless draw  but then to be even more safe you could give arsenal a one goal ahead handicap that way whichever outcome will be in your favour most likely.

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October 13, 2023, 09:18:41 AM
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The comparison is quite striking even though Sevilla is playing home in this match.
Arsenal are definitely favorites, it's just that when looking at the final results in the 2nd match against Lens and Sevilla's conditions which are sometimes difficult to guess, things like this could backfire for betors considering we know that sometimes Sevilla, especially when facing EPL clubs, are quite surprising, especially when playing at home.
But indeed Arsenal's odds are quite tempting at the moment and I will also definitely set aside a little for this bet even though the Arsenal bet will only be a single bet because my multi bet was destroyed because of Arsenal in the previous week 2.
Sevilla has so many issues recently at Laliga and Sevilla performance is similar just like a mediocre team because from 8 latest matches Sevilla only able to gets 2 wins and this also causes Sevilla owner have to sacked their previous manager so Sevilla is not in the good situation because they just changing manager which mean Sevilla players should be adapt to their new manager Diego Alonso and for Arsenal so far during this season their performance is still remains stable at Premier league too Arsenal still unbeatable but indeed Arteta should be evaluate the loses from Lens seems in this competition Arsenal still difficult to managed their performance and Arsenal should be carefull because sometimes Sevilla can able to performing well on European competition but for this match i am quite confident Arsenal will beat Sevilla and the odds for Arsenal is quite good to bet
Speaking of form, last season when they managed to beat Manchester United and even won the Europa League they were also in tremendous form problems so even if this can be used as a benchmark, Arsenal also stumbled last week against Lens who were even worse off than Sevilla at the start of this season in domestic competitions.
Indeed Arsenal are favorites in this match and indeed I'm sure no one can deny that but don't be too sure especially with the conditions of Arsenal and Sevilla which are sometimes unpredictable.

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October 13, 2023, 09:28:00 AM
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For quite a long time now, I no longer consider Sevilla as a strong contender for the champions League. The club really know what they want and they know how to get it. It is obvious that the club has always preferred Europa League to champions league. I might be wrong using the word prefer because it seems that their capacity stops at the Europa League and they have studied very well how to win the Europa League as long as they reach the finals.

You all will be surprised that you will be predicting Sevilla match in the champions league and they will deliberately clash out to fight for the Europa League which they know how to play better.

I won't contest your assertions on Sevilla because they have a good coach who knows how to manage the squad, and this season they are playing well and correctly. If a coach can manage his team, the team's performance will likewise increase. Use the game between sevilla and Barcelona as an example. It was a very close game, and Barcelona would not have won it if it weren't for the defensive player's own goal. As a result of that game, I have faith that sevilla will attempt to compete in the Champions League this year.

The only thing I can't foresee is that Sevilla won't advance to the Champions League's final round because there are numerous teams in the league that are significantly stronger than they are, as well as some teams that they are unable to defeat. Even if I don't name those teams, we can infer by ourselves which teams Sevilla can and cannot defeat. Although I am aware that games can change, we should all be aware that the champion league is unique. The champion league is the best league that every team aspires to win, so many teams will want to play in it over their own league. Since the champion league has just begun, I believe we should wait until the game has progressed significantly before making predictions about who will win the league.

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October 13, 2023, 09:46:40 AM
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In Group B, there will be an interesting game between Arsenal and Sevilla, Sevilla fired their coach because of the bad performance they had in La Liga in the past and they surely want to get better results in the Champions League too but Arsenal is the team they won the game against Manchester City and in this season, Arsenal had an amazing performance so far which enough to say they won't have a hard game against Sevilla. The last time they faced each other was the Europe League in which Sevilla won the game and now this is a good chance for Arsenal to take revenge.

Even though Arsenal has a stronger chance of beating Sevilla in the Champions League, this match is extremely difficult to predict. Despite Sevilla's recent terrible performance, which led to the sacking of their coach, I don't think Arsenal will have an easy time winning them. They are the Europa League favourites, but now that they are in the Champions League, they will want to do everything they can to enhance their play in order to advance to the next round (knockout stage) of the competition. Arsenal will come for nothing less than a win, which means they will have to put in more effort in order to defeat Sevilla. Sevilla might still be regaining their form for now first since after sacking their coach but that is not enough condition to feel that Arsenal can win them easily in this match.

I think that horribler performance from sevilla is still become a night mare for the club even though the next game will be happening at home for sevilla but im doubtful if sevilla will able to take full points from arsenal. I hope sevilla will be winning the game but seeing the result from emirates cup last year made me feel doubt if sevilla will able to win against arsenal easily at home. Hosting the game will be boosting the morality from the players but it will not be so significant as the result will also depend on the quality of players too.
Sevilla needs to work even harder in scoring against arsenal since the gunners have very good squad this time. Everything is still remain possible for sevilla to beat arsenal.
The club needs to work harder in the defensive line caused by it has become the main weakness of sevillla. We are still far away from the continuation of UCL.
I hope that will give enough time for sevilla to prepare everything.

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October 13, 2023, 09:53:04 AM
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Group B is indeed going on interestingly. Lens have taken a big step forward by beating Arsenal home. It was something I never expected from that game. This helped Lens take the lead in the group. However the points are still very close to each other. Each team are one point ahead of the one behind.

Therefore Lens will need to maintain this high effort a little longer to secure a ticket for last 16. The games against PSV are going to be really important for them as a result. Things aren't going on well for Lens in the Ligue 1 this season. However they are doing great in the Champions League now.  Smiley

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October 13, 2023, 09:59:47 AM
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I have to say, even though everyone is talking about Arsenal's great chance against Sevilla, I just can't get rid of the feeling that Sevilla is much better. Really, do you remember how crazy their run in Europe last season was? I mean, really, beating Manchester United isn't easy! I totally get why Arsenal wants to win; the stakes are very high. The place where they are ranked best is what they want. But it seems a bit... hopeful to just count on Lens to mess up with PSV. Don't get me wrong, I want Arsenal to win everything. They should keep their eyes open, though, because Sevilla at the Ramon Sanchez-Pizjuan is a different kind

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October 13, 2023, 10:41:45 AM
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Group B is indeed going on interestingly. Lens have taken a big step forward by beating Arsenal home. It was something I never expected from that game. This helped Lens take the lead in the group. However the points are still very close to each other. Each team are one point ahead of the one behind.

Therefore Lens will need to maintain this high effort a little longer to secure a ticket for last 16. The games against PSV are going to be really important for them as a result. Things aren't going on well for Lens in the Ligue 1 this season. However they are doing great in the Champions League now.  Smiley
This is a fact that was previously unimaginable, Lens is leading the Group B standings. It is true that they experienced the opposite situation in Ligue 1, they were not consistent enough to get points so they were in the middle of the standings. On the other hand, Arsenal still has the opportunity to regain the top position in Group B, with the Gunners current performance they should be able to secure full points in the next four matches.

In general, Arsenal has bigger kans than the other three clubs in Group B, even though they did not qualify as group winners. Meanwhile, Lens, Sevilla and PSV have to fight to secure another slot, because I doubt that Lens, PSV and Sevilla can beat Arsenal in these four matches.

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October 13, 2023, 10:42:45 AM
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Group B is indeed going on interestingly. Lens have taken a big step forward by beating Arsenal home. It was something I never expected from that game. This helped Lens take the lead in the group. However the points are still very close to each other. Each team are one point ahead of the one behind.

Therefore Lens will need to maintain this high effort a little longer to secure a ticket for last 16. The games against PSV are going to be really important for them as a result. Things aren't going on well for Lens in the Ligue 1 this season. However they are doing great in the Champions League now.  Smiley

Lens last played in the Champions League 20 years ago. This will be their third appearance in this tournament. Beating Arsenal certainly makes this one of the most memorable matches. Lens currently has 4 points after 2 matches. The next positions are Arsenal (3 points), Sevilla (2 points) and PSV (1 point).
PSV is not a team that is easily bullied, and with what Lens shows in all competitions, it is likely that they will cause difficulties for Lens. But Lens is showing that they will focus on the Champions League, so it is straightforward for them to win this match.

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October 13, 2023, 11:14:42 AM
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In Group B, there will be an interesting game between Arsenal and Sevilla, Sevilla fired their coach because of the bad performance they had in La Liga in the past and they surely want to get better results in the Champions League too but Arsenal is the team they won the game against Manchester City and in this season, Arsenal had an amazing performance so far which enough to say they won't have a hard game against Sevilla. The last time they faced each other was the Europe League in which Sevilla won the game and now this is a good chance for Arsenal to take revenge.


I quite doubt that Sevilla will be very good at competing in this big tournament, it looks like this season has been very bad for them, and if you look at the odds it is very clear that even though Arsenal are the visiting team, given the odds as the favorite team to win, that is quite convincing for the away team, but Sevilla can still have a chance to win because usually playing at home will provide extra motivation, but the question is, can Sevilla make that an advantage because the team they are facing is in very good condition as you said because they managed to beat their toughest competitor in the domestic league and That certainly really lifts the mentality of Arsenal's current players.
My prediction is that Sevilla will continue to try to perform well but a draw might be the best result they can get or it could be that Sevilla will apply more of a defensive game by relying on counterattacks which could be very dangerous for the visiting team.

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October 13, 2023, 11:15:11 AM
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I have to say, even though everyone is talking about Arsenal's great chance against Sevilla, I just can't get rid of the feeling that Sevilla is much better. Really, do you remember how crazy their run in Europe last season was? I mean, really, beating Manchester United isn't easy! I totally get why Arsenal wants to win; the stakes are very high. The place where they are ranked best is what they want. But it seems a bit... hopeful to just count on Lens to mess up with PSV. Don't get me wrong, I want Arsenal to win everything. They should keep their eyes open, though, because Sevilla at the Ramon Sanchez-Pizjuan is a different kind
I prefer to say that Sevilla is tough enough to show its performance in the UCL. Because they will be more difficult to predict against Arsenal. Regardless of how ideal Arsenal are at the moment, Sevilla still needs to take their resistance into account. There is a high mentality that Sevilla has, especially in terms of playing experience and Arteta needs to pay attention to that. However, if in the end Arsenal succeeds in winning again, they will automatically qualify for the group stage. It's just that once again, Sevilla's ambitions are no less big than Arsenal, which will make meetings at Sevilla a challenge for Arteta troops.

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