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October 17, 2023, 08:05:22 AM
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Losing De Bruyne indeed have an impact for Manchester City performance in Premier league and it proven Haaland performance looks decline when Manchester City playing without De Bruyne but in this competition i am sure Manchester City will be qualified with champion group status

Yes, to be able to win the title you need talented player and Haaland cannot face thats alone without player who strengthen the defense line, and so far Kevin De Bruyne has done his best for Manchester City if Pep Guardiola doesn't immediately make a mature strategy It is not impossible thats Manchester City will have difficulty facing the Premier League and also the Champions League.
therefore Pep Guardiola only hope at the moments is for Haaland to be able to scored goals for Manchester City, but this all requires strongs team collaboration to be able to achieve victory in every matches.

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October 17, 2023, 08:37:59 AM
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Losing De Bruyne indeed have an impact for Manchester City performance in Premier league and it proven Haaland performance looks decline when Manchester City playing without De Bruyne but in this competition i am sure Manchester City will be qualified with champion group status

Yes, to be able to win the title you need talented player and Haaland cannot face thats alone without player who strengthen the defense line, and so far Kevin De Bruyne has done his best for Manchester City if Pep Guardiola doesn't immediately make a mature strategy It is not impossible thats Manchester City will have difficulty facing the Premier League and also the Champions League.
therefore Pep Guardiola only hope at the moments is for Haaland to be able to scored goals for Manchester City, but this all requires strongs team collaboration to be able to achieve victory in every matches.

I don't think Manchester City has a lost a lot,sure their recent results suggest that they are not doing well but any team can happen to have a bad moment and that is exactly what Manchester City is experiencing right now.The good thing for them was this International break which will help them recover both in Premier League and in Champions League where they should have no problems at all passing the group stage.

For the long term though I agree they need someone to replace De Bryne if he will continue injured and even when he recovers his performance would need time to match his performance before he got injured.

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October 17, 2023, 08:52:09 AM
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Bruyne has long term contract with manchester city. The club is really need him at this moment yet his injury is the problem now. There is currently no estimated time of arrival for his return from injury, and we eagerly await the opportunity to see him playing alongside Manchester City again.
There is a large number of individuals eagerly anticipating his return, however, even medical professionals are unable to provide a definite timeline for Kevin De Bruyne's comeback from his injury. Bruyne is not only producing a lot of goals but he was making a lot of assists as well.
Manchester city probably has a plan to extend his contract in the club. Bellingham, who is currently playing for Real Madrid, was being reminded to me by De Bruyne.
Bruyne is also having an instinct to play as good as striker in scoring the goals as well.

I had earlier read it in an article that he is expected to be out for about four months. That’s a pretty long time for Manchester City to go without him but they seem not to be missing him all that much as they’ve been managing just fine so far.
A lot of supporters are praying for a speedy recovery and a much anticipated return back to the team. He is a valuable player and has been instrumental in a lot of Manchester City goals and wins in their games.
He need not worry much. His teammates are in the very capable hands of Pep and are doing okay.
True, i have been comparing the game play of manchester city when de bruyne was still playing. Manchester city was able making so many creative attack with him. The gameplay has been changing a lot once de bruyne has gone due to the injury. The game play less attractive compared with the previous match. Im missing him so much caused by manchester city is able showing very great gameplay. De bruyne is such a talented players.

Manchester city is so hard in finding a replacement for him as there was no another bruyne for sure. Im not even sure if dani olmo will able to fill his position in the manchester city. Im a bit skeptical with him but let's give him a try after winter transfer window.
I think pep is trying to do his best in saving the club. I just need rodri to go back again but it seems like that he will not able to play in upcoming match as well.

I never saw rodri being overreacted in the match against nottingham forest.

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October 17, 2023, 09:23:30 AM
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Losing De Bruyne indeed have an impact for Manchester City performance in Premier league and it proven Haaland performance looks decline when Manchester City playing without De Bruyne but in this competition i am sure Manchester City will be qualified with champion group status
Yes, to be able to win the title you need talented player and Haaland cannot face thats alone without player who strengthen the defense line, and so far Kevin De Bruyne has done his best for Manchester City if Pep Guardiola doesn't immediately make a mature strategy It is not impossible thats Manchester City will have difficulty facing the Premier League and also the Champions League.
therefore Pep Guardiola only hope at the moments is for Haaland to be able to scored goals for Manchester City, but this all requires strongs team collaboration to be able to achieve victory in every matches.
I don't think Manchester City has a lost a lot,sure their recent results suggest that they are not doing well but any team can happen to have a bad moment and that is exactly what Manchester City is experiencing right now.The good thing for them was this International break which will help them recover both in Premier League and in Champions League where they should have no problems at all passing the group stage.
For the long term though I agree they need someone to replace De Bryne if he will continue injured and even when he recovers his performance would need time to match his performance before he got injured.

Manchester City have lost two matches in the Premier League. However, the team continued to dominate the Champions League. They have won easily in both the Champions League matches. But we have to accept that Manchester City's performance has deteriorated somewhat. Their midfield is somewhat weak except for De Bruyne. De Bruyne is one of Manchester City's most important players. So it is not possible to fill De Bruyne's vacancy for coach Guardiola. However, Guardiola is a very experienced coach. Manchester City is still consistently doing well because of his excellent match strategy. Also because the understanding between City players is very good. This is why City's performance is still somewhat stable without De Bruyne.

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October 17, 2023, 09:41:25 AM
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Rodri may be coming back in upcoming weeks but manchester city needs to play without him for serveral weeks started from the match against arsenal. Losing him gave very big impact to the manchester city. I never expected that if rodri will be doing serious foul against nottingham forest.
Im not mentioning de bruyne caused by he will out for months, rodri will become the only hope owned by manchester city. His power really needed by the club at this moment. Losing him gave very big impact to the performance of manchester city.
I hope de bruyn will be back later but pep shall have focused into the how to build a proper attack without rodri and kdb. Many people have criticized how manchester city is declining so hard after the club was losing haaland and rodri.

In fact, these players are always contributing a lot in any season under city's shirt. No doubt if losing them all made great impact to the manchester city.
Pep has been lining up some players from another club to be recruited as backup once they will be out. Pep needs to make sure the replacement will have same quality as them. That's why dani olmo already targeted by pep at this moment.
There are also many clubs aiming to get him from leipzig. I hope pep will do something to save city.
Correct me if i am wrong but if we talking about champion league Rodri still available to play because his suspension for Premier league matches only but in this competition Rodri still available to play and when Manchester City play against Leipzig Rodri was in Manchester City line up and at that time Manchester City can able to beat Leipzig with final scores 3-1 and at group G Manchester City opponent is relatively easy because so far only Leipzig as their strongest opponent for them but the teams just like Young Boys and Red Star is weak teams compared to them

Losing De Bruyne indeed have an impact for Manchester City performance in Premier league and it proven Haaland performance looks decline when Manchester City playing without De Bruyne but in this competition i am sure Manchester City will be qualified with champion group status
That's right, Rodri can still play in the Champions League with Manchester City and I think at least Manchester City will feel very safe if Rodri can continue to strengthen this team. Rodri's presence can keep the midfield under control and he can often be a player who can set the tempo for the other players. Rodri's role is as important as Kevin De Bruyne and perhaps he needs to be calmer in big competitions like the Champions League so he can continue to provide the best results for the team.

Losing Kevin De Bruyne has not been able to restore Manchester City's performance to 100%, but the presence of Rodri can make almost an 80% difference so far. Manchester City's next opponent is Young Boys and I think this will be an easy match, but the thing that is quite disturbing is that Haaland has not consistently scored goals for Manchester City in the last 2 Champions League matches.

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October 17, 2023, 10:15:03 AM
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Group B and Group F seem to be the fiercest in the group stage this time. Because the order of the points is the same, namely 4-3-2-1. But I think the toughest group is F. Because there are the most favored clubs there. Namely Newcastle, PSG, AC Milan and Dortmund. In fact, I didn't expect Newcastle to lead the rankings in Group F. Newcastle was able to beat PSG with a quite surprising score, namely 4-1.

Arsenal, who is in Group B, seems to be the one most expected by everyone to lead the group rankings. But unexpectedly, Lens is currently at the top of the rankings. But I'm sure Arsenal will fight just as hard this time, whether in the Premier League or the Champions League. Because Arteta definitely has very high ambitions this time. And we have seen Arsenal much stronger this season than last season.
From the start, Group F was predicted to be very fierce because these 4 teams had the opportunity to qualify from the group phase, and after 2 matches that had been played, Newcastle was surprisingly able to become the current leader of Group F standings by winning 4 points from 1 draw and 1 win. and in my opinion even now we still can't predict with certainty who will qualify from the group.

Meanwhile in Group B, Arsenal will of course be very favorites even though they lost against Lens in their second match, but if you look at the quality of this team, I don't have the slightest doubt that they can qualify from the group and even become top of the group standings in the future.
I also feel very confident that Arsenal is the one that will qualify from the preliminary round in group B. But for the second team I think it will be between Lens or Sevilla. But Sevilla doesn't seem to be in good shape this season. So Lens might be a strong candidate who will qualify from group B with Arsenal.

For group F, it is difficult for me to guess who will qualify. Even though Newcastle currently leads the standings. But things can still turn around quickly. Because there are still many matches left. Well, there are still 4 matches remaining in this group stage. which can change the current ranking position.

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October 17, 2023, 11:00:45 AM
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It is very sad that De Bruyne was only able to complete 1 match in the League this season and had to be replaced due to injury. I can say that currently there is no player who can play a role as good as De Bruyne as a tempo maker for City's game in the middle of the field. Even though you have a striker like a goal machine like Haaland, without sufficient ball distribution it will be difficult for Haaland to repeat his extraordinary performance last season.
When a player who is often relied on by the team is injured and has to be absent for a long period, of course this will have a big impact on the appearance and performance of a team like Manchester City. So this is also normal because substitute players are always not the same as the players the team often relies on in certain lines and even attacking players like Haaland can't do much when one of the mainstay players is absent.

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As you said, his teammates are fine but the problem is that the 2 defeats City have suffered at the start of the season will slightly hinder their chances of winning the title. I'm not saying City can't win the League, it's just that this time it won't be as smooth as the previous season.
Manchester City still deserves to be considered as a team that is in the category of fighting for the title again this season, but with the two defeats that Manchester City has experienced, of course this will be an obstacle for him if the rival team can continue to win consistently until the end of the season. However, over time we also need to see how the match results are obtained by rival teams this season so that Manchester City's chances of winning the title again this season can be seen more clearly.
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October 17, 2023, 11:06:11 AM
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It is very sad that De Bruyne was only able to complete 1 match in the League this season and had to be replaced due to injury. I can say that currently there is no player who can play a role as good as De Bruyne as a tempo maker for City's game in the middle of the field. Even though you have a striker like a goal machine like Haaland, without sufficient ball distribution it will be difficult for Haaland to repeat his extraordinary performance last season.
When a player who is often relied on by the team is injured and has to be absent for a long period, of course this will have a big impact on the appearance and performance of a team like Manchester City. So this is also normal because substitute players are always not the same as the players the team often relies on in certain lines and even attacking players like Haaland can't do much when one of the mainstay players is absent.

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As you said, his teammates are fine but the problem is that the 2 defeats City have suffered at the start of the season will slightly hinder their chances of winning the title. I'm not saying City can't win the League, it's just that this time it won't be as smooth as the previous season.
Manchester City still deserves to be considered as a team that is in the category of fighting for the title again this season, but with the two defeats that Manchester City has experienced, of course this will be an obstacle for him if the rival team can continue to win consistently until the end of the season. However, over time we also need to see how the match results are obtained by rival teams this season so that Manchester City's chances of winning the title again this season can be seen more clearly.

@Davian144 when you’re a big club like Manchester City you need to have player’s who can step up and at City it seems that their player’s are not stepping up because these are opportunities for others to secure a starting 11 spot for themselves. Lastly I believe Pep would have done solid analysis by now and will come up with a better tactical plan hence it’s unwise to underestimate City even in the absence of De Bruyne.
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October 17, 2023, 11:20:59 AM
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It is guaranteed in my mind that Napoli and Real Madrid will go up, the other teams Berlin and Braga do not look like they have a single chance of going up, some groups are like that, the top two is already decided in my brain. Like group G for example, Leipzig and City should be going up, there is a very small chance Young Boys and that other team could go as second normally and in my brain it's zero.

Let's see how the group stages will end, it looks like it's close enough after tow games for many groups, and we need to see how they will do overall, I know that it will be hard but we should be getting some good results one way or another, and the last 16 will be very fun. Seeing different clubs there at times is great, sure there are still names we all know that will be there, but some of the teams will be rare to see.
It's only natural to put Real Madrid and Napoli as the teams that will make it to the next round. Rael Madrid especially, they are the undisputed team in this Champions League, especially now that they have a breath of fresh air after bringing in several players in the summer transfer window. But I'm still a little doubtful about Napoli, because they've been showing inconsistent performances lately, and that's causing doubts to come to me. But if you look at the other 2 teams in this group, I also still have them as the top 2 teams in this group.

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October 17, 2023, 11:26:41 AM
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It is guaranteed in my mind that Napoli and Real Madrid will go up, the other teams Berlin and Braga do not look like they have a single chance of going up, some groups are like that, the top two is already decided in my brain. Like group G for example, Leipzig and City should be going up, there is a very small chance Young Boys and that other team could go as second normally and in my brain it's zero.

Let's see how the group stages will end, it looks like it's close enough after tow games for many groups, and we need to see how they will do overall, I know that it will be hard but we should be getting some good results one way or another, and the last 16 will be very fun. Seeing different clubs there at times is great, sure there are still names we all know that will be there, but some of the teams will be rare to see.
It's only natural to put Real Madrid and Napoli as the teams that will make it to the next round. Rael Madrid especially, they are the undisputed team in this Champions League, especially now that they have a breath of fresh air after bringing in several players in the summer transfer window. But I'm still a little doubtful about Napoli, because they've been showing inconsistent performances lately, and that's causing doubts to come to me. But if you look at the other 2 teams in this group, I also still have them as the top 2 teams in this group.
Even though Napoli's performance is not consistent at the moment, I think they are still much better than Union Berlin and Braga, so there is no doubt in my opinion that the 2 teams that qualify from this group are Real Madrid and Napoli.
Group C is relatively easy for Real Madrid and Napoli because Berlin and Braga have a difference in quality that is far below them.

And in my opinion, in the UCL group phase this season, Group F is the fiercest and up to now the four teams still have a chance to qualify from the group and even now it is still very difficult to predict who will be able to qualify, because these four teams have equal quality.
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October 17, 2023, 11:34:31 AM
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@Davian144 when you’re a big club like Manchester City you need to have player’s who can step up and at City it seems that their player’s are not stepping up because these are opportunities for others to secure a starting 11 spot for themselves. Lastly I believe Pep would have done solid analysis by now and will come up with a better tactical plan hence it’s unwise to underestimate City even in the absence of De Bruyne.
Manchester City until now played without De Bruyne and they can still achieve 3rd position in Premier League and won 2 matches in Champions League. They're already been great so far, even though De Bruyne is currently a Manchester City's heart.

De Bruyne will also get older, it's just a part of regeneration and Manchester City seems quite success since they're still in good form.

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October 17, 2023, 11:50:54 AM
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Bad news came from Shakhtar Donetsk, because they had just fired coach Van Leeuwen and now the confidence they had cultivated against Barcelona was lost. If we look at the results in the domestic league, Shakhtar Donetsk's position is actually still at the top with other teams, but of course Shakhtar Donetsk has its own reasons for deciding this. Even though Shakhtar Donetsk still has a chance to reach second place because they have the same 3 points as Porto.

I thought some time ago that Shakhtar Donetsk would be able to make it difficult for Barcelona to win so that they could at least get a draw later. But that was still not enough and now Shakhtar Donetsk have appointed interim coach Darijo Srna, while they look for a new coach in the future.

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October 17, 2023, 11:58:49 AM
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Manchester City may be interested in Toni Kross. He is a great midfielder. However, Manchester City's midfield is already much stronger now. So I don't think it would be very profitable to add Kross, who is almost 34 years old, to the team. Talented midfielders like De Bruyne, Silva and Phillips are already in the City squad. If City want to plan long term then they should add a young talented midfielder to the squad. The addition of Toni Kroos to the squad may have strengthened City's performance. But I doubt if he can give service to the team for more than 2/3 years.
The new interests me and since Toni Kroos is a player that has worked with Pep Guardiola with Bayern Munich, moving to Manchester City have a good possibility of happening.
Being 34 means nothing. Toni Kroos, still has that ability to break down defense with his passes. That is something he can bring into Pep Guardiola's side. Besides, they've lost Gundogan and since left, no player has met his standards.

Pep Guardiola already brought in a yougin from Manchester City Academy he ( Lewis ,) is already doing well. Did had a good game against Arsenal but no matured enough in midfied.
I instead believe that Guardiola will be interested in young players that has long future to spend in the club. I also do not think that Guardiola will allow players like Gundigon and Mahrez to leave the club and in the end bring player as old as Toni Kross to play with him. His experience with Toni in Bayern is old enough to be forgotten and dwell on new people and new challenges.
In the other hand, Toni wanted to end his career in Madrid but was persuaded by Madrid management to help the club to play one more season. I am surprised Toni wants to continue playing. It is good and passionate although

I also think Guardiola will plan for the long term. He is an experienced coach. He will not waste money. Manchester City will have to spend a lot of money to add Toni Kroos to the squad. And at the same time it is not sure whether Toni Kross will be able to adapt himself to the Premier League. The Premier League game and the La Liga game are completely different. And so I would say Guardiola should add young talented players to the squad instead of investing money on Toni Kross. As a result, if the young player adapts himself to the team, he will be able to support City for a long time. Adding Toni Kroos to the squad at a high price for only 2 seasons would not be the right decision. However, Manchester City can add Toni Kroos to the squad if the transfer fee is low or a free transfer.

Toni kroos to Manchester city is not possible, it's too much of a tall dream, pep guardiola will not sign Toni, especially considering his age.  i agree they will go for a long term solution, at least a much younger person. Kroos will be too much on expenses. Though Manchester city midfield is not doing bad,  they just have to hold on tight till Kevin De Bruyne comes back from injury to strengthen it.

Even if Pep wanted Toni, I don't think Toni would want them. Toni is now about to become a legendary player for Real Madrid. He is a team player who, along with Modric, has achieved significant success in Real Madrid's midfield for a long time. I think he will probably end his career in Real Madrid.
Of course going by the reality of things you will observe that Toni will end his career in Real Madrid, at his age and considering his consistency in Madrid, it is likely that it will be his last destination because even on the national team he's no longer active on the national team. so there is no point for him to leave one of the biggest club in the world.

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@Davian144 when you’re a big club like Manchester City you need to have player’s who can step up and at City it seems that their player’s are not stepping up because these are opportunities for others to secure a starting 11 spot for themselves. Lastly I believe Pep would have done solid analysis by now and will come up with a better tactical plan hence it’s unwise to underestimate City even in the absence of De Bruyne.
Manchester City until now played without De Bruyne and they can still achieve 3rd position in Premier League and won 2 matches in Champions League. They're already been great so far, even though De Bruyne is currently a Manchester City's heart.

De Bruyne will also get older, it's just a part of regeneration and Manchester City seems quite success since they're still in good form.
It is not yet clear when Kevin De Bruyne will be able to return to Manchester City in each of their matches because the injury he suffered is quite fatal and can even be claimed as an injury with a long period of recovery and this has had physical and on Kevin De Bruyne who is one of the important players for Manchester City besides Haaland.
Apart from several players being absent, Pep has now changed his strategy for the better without the two players in the midfield position and in the future it can still be confirmed that Manchester City can return to first place in the EPL and also qualify for the next for the UCL with the top position in group G.

It is true that Kevin De Bruyne is now 32 years old and as he gets older he can experience phase of decline in performance but Pep still believes in De Bruyne that he will remain Manchester City mainstay midfielder besides Rodri.

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October 17, 2023, 02:04:47 PM
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@Davian144 when you’re a big club like Manchester City you need to have player’s who can step up and at City it seems that their player’s are not stepping up because these are opportunities for others to secure a starting 11 spot for themselves. Lastly I believe Pep would have done solid analysis by now and will come up with a better tactical plan hence it’s unwise to underestimate City even in the absence of De Bruyne.
Manchester City until now played without De Bruyne and they can still achieve 3rd position in Premier League and won 2 matches in Champions League. They're already been great so far, even though De Bruyne is currently a Manchester City's heart.

De Bruyne will also get older, it's just a part of regeneration and Manchester City seems quite success since they're still in good form.
This is why a team should never be dependent on just one player, because if that player is unavailable, it has a huge impact on their game. But I realize that this is difficult to avoid because it cannot be denied that in a team there are always players who are the mainstay, yes it is inseparable from their abilities and also their contribution to the team.
But can things like this be avoided? Of course you can, one of them is by rotating a lot and also giving many new roles to other players. I know this if done is full of risks, but when talking about risks, this also exists when they don't do things like I said.

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October 17, 2023, 02:48:27 PM
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Manchester City until now played without De Bruyne and they can still achieve 3rd position in Premier League and won 2 matches in Champions League. They're already been great so far, even though De Bruyne is currently a Manchester City's heart.

De Bruyne will also get older, it's just a part of regeneration and Manchester City seems quite success since they're still in good form.
Manchester City still on the top performed in Champion League by winning 2 of 2 matches without Kevin De Bruyne but they have bad result after losing two matches in a row at Premier League. I don't see success achievement for Manchester City without De Bruyne although have many young player and need time for Pep Guardiola adapting new games play without De Bruyne. Current group stage opponent teams in Champion League looks not problem for Manchester City keep in the winning trend, but I doubt on knockout round if Kevin De Bruyne not recovery from injury will Manchester City have top perform or difficult qualifying until final stage.

Difficult to see better tactical with Manchester City actually Kevin De Bruyne have been vital player and helped Erling Haaland easily scoring many goals and looks difficult scoring goals when De Bruyne absent.

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Most likely so, if there are no surprises then Real Madrid and Napoli have a big chance of qualifying from group C because in terms of quality Real Madrid and Napoli are much better than Braga and Union Berlin.
Don't underestimate Braga, they have a chance because Napoli isn't really good with their new manager, while Union Berlin has no chance because they're lose streaks in Bundesliga.

In the 3rd and 4th matches, Galatasaray will face Bayern Munich and Manchester United will face Copenhagen. And most likely Bayern Munich will beat Galatasaray in both matches. If Manchester United can beat Copenhagen in these two games, Manchester United can finish on 2nd position. But Manchester United's performance is very unpredictable and have self-confidence problems. Also Manchester United midfielder Casemiro was set for a game suspension after being red card in the Galatasaray match.
It's too naive to think like that because the league is still long to go, I could say Manchester United will win every matches and Bayern Munich lose all the next match, Manchester United will finish on 1st position.

Yes, maybe you are right. 4 more matches will be played. As you said, Manchester United will win these 4 matches and Manchester United will finish on 1st position. But right now, as I said, things are not going well for Manchester United. Casemiro is suspended due to a red card. There are many injured players. Also Manchester United's performance is very unstable.

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October 17, 2023, 04:28:55 PM
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Toni kroos to Manchester city is not possible, it's too much of a tall dream, pep guardiola will not sign Toni, especially considering his age.  i agree they will go for a long term solution, at least a much younger person. Kroos will be too much on expenses. Though Manchester city midfield is not doing bad,  they just have to hold on tight till Kevin De Bruyne comes back from injury to strengthen it.
Even if Pep wanted Toni, I don't think Toni would want them. Toni is now about to become a legendary player for Real Madrid. He is a team player who, along with Modric, has achieved significant success in Real Madrid's midfield for a long time. I think he will probably end his career in Real Madrid.
Of course going by the reality of things you will observe that Toni will end his career in Real Madrid, at his age and considering his consistency in Madrid, it is likely that it will be his last destination because even on the national team he's no longer active on the national team. so there is no point for him to leave one of the biggest club in the world.
I am not 100% sure about that, it doesn't look like he is getting that many minutes and he will probably stop getting these minutes as well, the younger generation of midfielders that they have look like they are doing fine and because they look like they are doing fine, Ancelotti is giving them more minutes which means less minutes for Toni Kroos. That could result with him going to another team, they may not renew his contract as well, and the smartest thing he could do would be going to Saudi Arabia to get paid, I know that Modric said no, and maybe Toni would say no as well, but financially that is the best decision.

Why think about what people will say when the return would be 20-30 million more per year? That would be money you are saying no, not the fans, fans can say you shouldn't go easily because they are not saying no to 20-30 million euro.

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@Davian144 when you’re a big club like Manchester City you need to have player’s who can step up and at City it seems that their player’s are not stepping up because these are opportunities for others to secure a starting 11 spot for themselves. Lastly I believe Pep would have done solid analysis by now and will come up with a better tactical plan hence it’s unwise to underestimate City even in the absence of De Bruyne.
Manchester City until now played without De Bruyne and they can still achieve 3rd position in Premier League and won 2 matches in Champions League. They're already been great so far, even though De Bruyne is currently a Manchester City's heart.

De Bruyne will also get older, it's just a part of regeneration and Manchester City seems quite success since they're still in good form.
This is why a team should never be dependent on just one player, because if that player is unavailable, it has a huge impact on their game. But I realize that this is difficult to avoid because it cannot be denied that in a team there are always players who are the mainstay, yes it is inseparable from their abilities and also their contribution to the team.
But can things like this be avoided? Of course you can, one of them is by rotating a lot and also giving many new roles to other players. I know this if done is full of risks, but when talking about risks, this also exists when they don't do things like I said.
Maybe now seeing that there is no de Bruyne in Manchester City squad, looks like a lion that is a little limp, their performance has declined in the last two matches in the English main league, it is quite dangerous when the game on the field pivotes on one player, and what is seen to be seen that no one can replace the role of De Bruyne to this day, who is commensurate to replace De Bruyne in an active midfielder position, as seen that his successor is R Lewis, but not as great as De Bruyne, then what rotation needs to be done for Fill the emptiness? Who deserves to rotate the position?

Speaking UCL Manchester City can certainly enter the next round of the match to see the victory they have collected, and I think it is strong enough at UCL even without the support of De Bruyne on the field.

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October 17, 2023, 04:44:20 PM
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Manchester City until now played without De Bruyne and they can still achieve 3rd position in Premier League and won 2 matches in Champions League. They're already been great so far, even though De Bruyne is currently a Manchester City's heart.

De Bruyne will also get older, it's just a part of regeneration and Manchester City seems quite success since they're still in good form.

It was wonderful that Manchester City were able to play and win without De Bruyne; they should get used to it now, as should other key players in the club, so that when they are out injured or suspended, they can still play and win all of their matches till they return. If it wasn't for Rodri's suspension, which resulted in two losses for Manchester City, I don't think De Bruyne's absence would have had much of an impact. Manchester City will undoubtedly finish higher than the other top clubs in the league and in the Champions League games.

Yes, maybe you are right. 4 more matches will be played. As you said, Manchester United will win these 4 matches and Manchester United will finish on 1st position. But right now, as I said, things are not going well for Manchester United. Casemiro is suspended due to a red card. There are many injured players. Also Manchester United's performance is very unstable.

Even before several of their players were injured and underperforming, Manchester United's previous performance cannot be compared to that of Bayern Munich, and they are far superior to them and will finish ahead of them in the group stage. Manchester United still has a chance to finish second in the group because they have four more matches to play, but I doubt they can beat Bayern Munich in their second leg clash. If they lose or draw a point with Bayern Munich, they will be disqualified from finishing first, and Bayern Munich will almost certainly win their remaining four matches.

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