UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season

[hahay]

I still can't believe it when I look at the Group D standings with Benfica who haven't gotten a single point in their 2 matches so far. Even so, I think Benfica was just unlucky considering that on the first matchday they lost against Salzburg because they only played with 10 people and then on the second matchday yesterday they lost narrowly to Inter. Next, they will face Real Sociedad, who so far have won 4 points, the same as Inter, and if Benfica wants to qualify for the next round or at least be runners up in the group, of course they have to win this match later. Moreover, they have to make the most of their home advantage and get full support from the fans.

At first I was quite confident about Benfica, given that Benfica had good results in the Champions League last season. So yes, armed with Benfica's good results last season, then I have hopes for Benfica to be a strong competitor with Inter in this group D. But the reality was really far from predictions and far from expectations, because in fact Benfica actually suffered two consecutive defeats at this moment in this group phase.

With results like that, then of course I became pessimistic about Benfica because after all, even though in the next match Benfica will play at home against Real Sociedad but still, I believe the match will still be difficult for Benfica. Because, Real Sociedad is also at least at this moment experiencing an increase in performance and good results in La Liga and also in the Champion League. Therefore, it will still not be easy for Benfica to beat Real Sociedad in the next match.

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[Bobrox]

I think the goalkeeper and defense line both have shortcomings, in the sense that they still need a series of adaptations. This is Onana first season, and we know that most of Man United defenders have just returned from injury, ultimately causing United to concede in every game they play. It's true that Ten Hag must quickly find a solution for United XI formation, and I don't think there's any harm in giving time to young players, if the more senior players consistently make United performance plummet.

Exactly, if Ten Hag cannot bring United to consistently achieve points, the consequences will be very bad, he will not qualify for the last 16 of the UCL, and in the EPL his position will continue to sink, and will end his tenure at Old Trafford sooner.

Manchester United goals keeper and defender still bigger problem for Manchester United in this season, Andre Onana need more time for adapting well and he was conceded many goals 18 goals from 9 matches all competition between Premier League and UEFA Champion League. Unbelievable with Manchester United weakness defense due have conceded many goals last 9 matches all competition, need with new recruitment as central defender how to make Andre Onana more secure as goal keeper position due many critic show for him after conceded many goals in this season.

Manchester United opportunity qualifying to the next round not close yet, have get full points on left four matches in group stage if get chance finish on 2nd standings place and upcoming match against Copenhagen must get three points.

[Rockstarguy]

The big change is Manchester United can be in third position when De Gea was still there, while current season Manchester United without De Gea is keep losing. So the solution is, bring back De Gea and Manchester United will not be like this.

Now every eyes are on Onana, previously it was Maguire. Let's see if Onana has a strong mental to accept criticism towards him, Maguire is able to fight it for 4 years.

Bringing back David de Gea won't solved United problem, because is weigh bigger than what we expects. Erik Ten Hag constitutes a single of the Red Devils' challenges, having little knowledge about the team's bedrock other than directing game techniques that fail to match the pattern of the players, and these players are also relenting and lacked discipline. Manchester United has struggled in league games this season as a result of their detrimental performance. One amusing aspect of the team's fanbase is that they heap blame on players who perform poorly in games rather than focusing on the primary problem the team is encountering.

Manchester United players are still pointing blames to some players for the cause of the team weak performance,  I think this is not the solution to make things better. All the players needs to take responsibility of their poor poor performance,  this is the only way things can become better for the team. I feel Manchester United players are too relaxed that is why their performance this season have not been impressive. Ten Hag just need a good strategy that will make the performance of the team better.

[bangjoe]

I feel sad about Manchester United who seems to be this season they have no chance to get out of the CL group stage this season. They have suffered two defeats on two game occasions. This is very far from the expectations of most people, on a Manchester United paper, it is able to play more impressively and get an easy victory in Group A, the only one that is the toughest opponent is Bayern Munich, but the fact is Manchester United are also defeated by Galastasaray.

Furthermore, Manchester United will fight Copenhagen who is a representative of the Denmark League Super, if Manchester United can be held or defeated by Copenhagen it will not be easy for Manchester United in the future, Ten Hag and his team experience so severe decline for the beginning of the season.

[temple]

I think a win adds to the confidence of a team all the time, but when a team realizes that it can beat PSG with a groundbreaking 4-1 that gives an extra portion of confidence not only for the Champions League, but also for the Premier League. I am still missing some new big names on the team of Newcastle United as I thought they would use the transfer window and buy some stars. Maybe not superstars, but players that have proven themselves in a strong league over some period of time. These players are doing well, but it couldn't hurt them to have one or two players that also bring a different aura to the team. But maybe that is what they exactly not want and they think it could hurt the cohesion.

This victory is a sweet historical record for Newcastle. When returning to the Champions League stage and being able to win a match against a top team clearly had a tremendous impact on the team, the morale of the players increased. However, this brilliant record should not make Eddy Howe's troops forget themselves because they will continue to face tough tasks in the future.

Compared with the squads of other teams in the same group, Newcastle's strength means nothing. But I applaud their hard work and they really don't feel embarrassed playing in the Champions League. I hope Howe is able to maintain the consistency of his players so they can qualify for the knockout phase.

And if possible, I agree that Eddy Howe adds several experienced players so that conditions are more stable. Because if at any time an injury storm comes or is caused by suspension, the team's strength will not be easily shaken.

No doubt that this win was only one step of many, but it is a golden step because it puts Newcastle into a great position. If they tie another game, the situation will actually allow them to get away with it very well. There is only one more game that they should not tie and that is the upcoming home game against Borussia Dortmund. PSG and Milan either both dropping points with a draw or one dropping points due to a loss is both good for Newcastle now as long as they don't lose their game.

At first I thought this must be the most exciting group with those four strong teams, but seeing the results like Manchester United losing their home game or Arsenal dropping points against Lens, it looks like we will have several close groups.

[Weawant]

I think the goalkeeper and defense line both have shortcomings, in the sense that they still need a series of adaptations. This is Onana first season, and we know that most of Man United defenders have just returned from injury, ultimately causing United to concede in every game they play. It's true that Ten Hag must quickly find a solution for United XI formation, and I don't think there's any harm in giving time to young players, if the more senior players consistently make United performance plummet.

Exactly, if Ten Hag cannot bring United to consistently achieve points, the consequences will be very bad, he will not qualify for the last 16 of the UCL, and in the EPL his position will continue to sink, and will end his tenure at Old Trafford sooner.

If ten hag fails to qualify for the round of sixteen in the UCL they he should be considered a failure, it may be very true that he made good progress in his first season at old Trafford but it doesn't mean he is permitted to fail now because he has had an achievement already which was qualify for the UCL and he was hail for achieving such a mile stone in his first season.

Onana does not need to whole season to be good at his craft, when degea came to Manchester united he kept several clean sheets in his first season and there are other records too which has been kept by other players in their first season at a club, so it pains me when people excuse onana with the fact that he needs time and it's a good reason to fail.

The defense line of Manchester united is still weak and I think it's more in the duty of the coach to see to fixing that, most of the defenders suffered injury but they are back and should be strong enough by now but the sad part is that these boys lack enough communication amongst them selves to deliver and at this point the keeper and the coach should be blamed because they are the once watching this defender closely enough to correct them but they seem to have failed at it.

[BITCOIN4X]

I feel sad about Manchester United who seems to be this season they have no chance to get out of the CL group stage this season. They have suffered two defeats on two game occasions. This is very far from the expectations of most people, on a Manchester United paper, it is able to play more impressively and get an easy victory in Group A, the only one that is the toughest opponent is Bayern Munich, but the fact is Manchester United are also defeated by Galastasaray.

Furthermore, Manchester United will fight Copenhagen who is a representative of the Denmark League Super, if Manchester United can be held or defeated by Copenhagen it will not be easy for Manchester United in the future, Ten Hag and his team experience so severe decline for the beginning of the season.

It is clear that Manchester United is too bad in the Champions League at the moment with its two defeats, but the other 3 teams representing the Premier League seem to have better hopes in their respective groups. Manchester City and Newcastle lead groups F and G, while Arsenal, who lost against Lens, should be in second place in group B for the time being.

It feels increasingly convincing that Manchester United are just not ready to compete in the Champions League this season and they will drop into the Europa League. The defeat to Galatasaray was embarrassing, but that is the harsh reality they experienced. Improvement is always hoped for, but Ten Hag failed.

[Unknown01]

I know that whatever we discuss here may not be in line with Ten Hag's ideas, especially in formulating a game plan in a match. Technically Ten Hag has done his best so that his team can get into good form, but it hasn't worked for Manchester United. It's definitely not been a good season for Ten Hag, but I also don't discount the selfishness of some of his players in the game.

Marcus Rashford's performance was completely beyond expectations, I mean he is a player who has had a big downfall earlier this season. Marcus Rashford only scored 1 goal and 1 assist in 7 appearances in the Premier League, while he scored 17 goals and 5 assists last season in 35 appearances. He is clearly a problem at the moment, but the support and trust for him must remain despite Rashford appearing selfish.

I think we need to blame the coach for the poor performance, that means Ten Hag. Mourinho managed to get much better results with a much worse squad. Ten Hag had CR7 in the team and didn't manage to get anything out of it and had to send him away. The criticism that CR7 was bad is not true, the man had 18 goals in 30 games at that age. And now the team is missing a leader like Ronaldo. ManU has to change the coach, there is no other solution for me.

[arimamib]

I know that whatever we discuss here may not be in line with Ten Hag's ideas, especially in formulating a game plan in a match. Technically Ten Hag has done his best so that his team can get into good form, but it hasn't worked for Manchester United. It's definitely not been a good season for Ten Hag, but I also don't discount the selfishness of some of his players in the game.

Marcus Rashford's performance was completely beyond expectations, I mean he is a player who has had a big downfall earlier this season. Marcus Rashford only scored 1 goal and 1 assist in 7 appearances in the Premier League, while he scored 17 goals and 5 assists last season in 35 appearances. He is clearly a problem at the moment, but the support and trust for him must remain despite Rashford appearing selfish.

Overall, their performance is not at its best, so Erik Ten Hag is quite confused about the performance of his players this season. Manchester United have not succeeded in showing their abilities in the Champions League, in fact these 2 defeats have made Manchester United a fairly weak team in the Champions League. Fan support does not have much influence on their performance, in fact Manchester United can be beaten at home by Galatasaray.

Whether in the Premier League or Champions League, of course Manchester United's performance is far from what we expected. Because before this season started we believed they would start this season much better than last season but in reality they failed to do this. I think this is purely due to their failure to make better changes in the transfer window, which has a negative impact on their performance this season.

[bitpotter]

I feel sad about Manchester United who seems to be this season they have no chance to get out of the CL group stage this season. They have suffered two defeats on two game occasions. This is very far from the expectations of most people, on a Manchester United paper, it is able to play more impressively and get an easy victory in Group A, the only one that is the toughest opponent is Bayern Munich, but the fact is Manchester United are also defeated by Galastasaray.

Furthermore, Manchester United will fight Copenhagen who is a representative of the Denmark League Super, if Manchester United can be held or defeated by Copenhagen it will not be easy for Manchester United in the future, Ten Hag and his team experience so severe decline for the beginning of the season.

There seems to be no end to discussing Manchester City's neighboring team and indeed Manchester United is not what we expected since last season when they managed to get a ticket to the Champions League. In the group stage they were very chaotic and even a surprising defeat came against Galatassaray. It was a home game for the Red Devils but they had to endure embarrassment in front of the fans.

Regarding the next match against Copenhagen, I am quite doubtful that Manchester United will be able to win considering that this team made things difficult for Bayern Munich a few days ago, even Thomas Tuchel's squad was unable to win with a landslide score and instead had to stage a comeback victory in that match. I think Manchester United only has a chance to draw against Copenhagen.

[püsür]

I watched Atletico Madrid - Feyenoord match partially. I feel like Feyenoord was performing really good - I think they should not have been demotivated and lose. They are very competitive team.
Newcastle United - PSG match was very enjoyable tho. Newcastle united seemed very solid there and got clean fair win against PSG. I hope we can watch them more in next round as I really like such solid teams fighting lot and beating bigger ones.

Feyenoord was almost equally to the atletico madrid. I saw that how atletico madrid was so struggle to beat feyenoord. Atletico madrid was almost loosing agaist feyenoord. Im not even feeling doubt why people called feyenoord as a strong team.



The statistic was also telling us if feyenoord was a strong team. I think that atlteico must be competing with this club to be qualified for the play off. Feyenoord probably even stronger compared with lazio.
Atletico madrid was also even losing in the domination of attacks. Feyenoord has produced more goal attempts.

Newcastle united seems learned a lot from the previous match against acmilan. The club was not focusing on dominating the ball possession but the club was hunting for the ball and then made counter attack.
PSG can't even prevent newcastle in scoring a lot of goals.

Newcastle United showed how to manage money and a club. With a modest squad, they gave PSG a football lesson. Newcastle showed what a true English fan should be like yesterday. They missed this scene and they got used to it very quickly. There was a great atmosphere yesterday, I had a great pleasure watching. Congratulations to Newcastle, they played great football. I think they will be the leaders of the group. Coming from the 4th bag and having such an advantage is very big. As far as I know, Newcastle United has been taken over by Arab capital, but they are not spending abnormal amounts of money and picking up stars, they have built a more grounded team. In a couple of years they will be a rival to City.

[FanEagle]

To be fair losing to Bayern was already expected, so getting zero points there wasn't really shocking, I am sure even United fans must be fine with that game, they were expected to be bad, and they fought hard and got 4-3 loss, that's good enough.

The only game at UCL so far that disappointed fans must be the second one against Galatasaray, and yes that's disappointing I agree but it is just one game. If they are thinking about firing ETH then I think it should be based on the league performance, they have been terrible and not doing fine at all, I am not entirely sure if it would continue to make sense if they keep him and they keep losing, I am sure that United will do just fine at UCL, not like they can win it anyway, so the only hope they have would be getting a good result at league and so far they haven't done that neither.

[Docnaster]

To be fair losing to Bayern was already expected, so getting zero points there wasn't really shocking, I am sure even United fans must be fine with that game, they were expected to be bad, and they fought hard and got 4-3 loss, that's good enough.

The only game at UCL so far that disappointed fans must be the second one against Galatasaray, and yes that's disappointing I agree but it is just one game. If they are thinking about firing ETH then I think it should be based on the league performance, they have been terrible and not doing fine at all, I am not entirely sure if it would continue to make sense if they keep him and they keep losing, I am sure that United will do just fine at UCL, not like they can win it anyway, so the only hope they have would be getting a good result at league and so far they haven't done that neither.

Manchester United is one of the big clubs in Europe and that status should be protected by all means and that's what the current manager Erik Ten Hag isn't doing at the moment. It's absolutely abnormal for a club like Manchester United to concede defeat even before kickoff in a game against Bayern Munich. They played that game with fear and that's why they couldn't get anything from that game.
Against Galatasaray at Old Trafford on Tuesday, many people were expecting to win that game but were surprised to see them beaten at home by the Turkish club. Erik Ten Hag is likely to lose his job should United not make it to the knockout stages of the UEFA Champions League competition

[Asiska02]

To be fair losing to Bayern was already expected, so getting zero points there wasn't really shocking, I am sure even United fans must be fine with that game, they were expected to be bad, and they fought hard and got 4-3 loss, that's good enough.

The only game at UCL so far that disappointed fans must be the second one against Galatasaray, and yes that's disappointing I agree but it is just one game. If they are thinking about firing ETH then I think it should be based on the league performance, they have been terrible and not doing fine at all, I am not entirely sure if it would continue to make sense if they keep him and they keep losing, I am sure that United will do just fine at UCL, not like they can win it anyway, so the only hope they have would be getting a good result at league and so far they haven't done that neither.

Sacking the coach now after the few matches he has managed this season despite bringing the team this far from last season doesn’t really makes a lot of sense. We all know and agree that he’s currently not doing what is right for this club, but giving him some benefits or room for improvement is the best. It’s not always rosey in the process but he needs to be given opportunity for improvement. Keeping him for a long time without any improvement will be bad for the team and at the same time sacking him now is not the best option to go far. I still see some potentials in him to bring this team out better, but we just have to wait and see how it unravels soon.

[borovichok]

To be fair losing to Bayern was already expected, so getting zero points there wasn't really shocking, I am sure even United fans must be fine with that game, they were expected to be bad, and they fought hard and got 4-3 loss, that's good enough.

The only game at UCL so far that disappointed fans must be the second one against Galatasaray, and yes that's disappointing I agree but it is just one game. If they are thinking about firing ETH then I think it should be based on the league performance, they have been terrible and not doing fine at all, I am not entirely sure if it would continue to make sense if they keep him and they keep losing, I am sure that United will do just fine at UCL, not like they can win it anyway, so the only hope they have would be getting a good result at league and so far they haven't done that neither.

I'm still surprised to see some elite clubs struggling in UCL football. Perhaps only the best competitive teams will make pushed actions to reach crucial phases in UCL this season. Manchester United is yet to accumulate a point in UEFA Champions League competition this season, it's outrageous how the Red Devils would cope in EPL games this weekend. I can see the angry and sad faces on united supporters, the defeats against Bayern Munich was expected but losing against Galatasaray was shocking, next UCL game is against Copenhagen, United should hoped for their first winning in UCL.

[Oluwa-btc]

To be fair losing to Bayern was already expected, so getting zero points there wasn't really shocking, I am sure even United fans must be fine with that game, they were expected to be bad, and they fought hard and got 4-3 loss, that's good enough.

The only game at UCL so far that disappointed fans must be the second one against Galatasaray, and yes that's disappointing I agree but it is just one game. If they are thinking about firing ETH then I think it should be based on the league performance, they have been terrible and not doing fine at all, I am not entirely sure if it would continue to make sense if they keep him and they keep losing, I am sure that United will do just fine at UCL, not like they can win it anyway, so the only hope they have would be getting a good result at league and so far they haven't done that neither.

Manchester United is one of the big clubs in Europe and that status should be protected by all means and that's what the current manager Erik Ten Hag isn't doing at the moment. It's absolutely abnormal for a club like Manchester United to concede defeat even before kickoff in a game against Bayern Munich. They played that game with fear and that's why they couldn't get anything from that game.
Against Galatasaray at Old Trafford on Tuesday, many people were expecting to win that game but were surprised to see them beaten at home by the Turkish club. Erik Ten Hag is likely to lose his job should United not make it to the knockout stages of the UEFA Champions League competition

They didn't play that game with fear, Manchester United had no good midfied and same goes with the defenders they have struggled for both small and big games. The mentality of these players now have gone down.
Bayern Munich did not do too much, Manchester United should have gotten a point if they fought hard enough. Galatasaray wasn't so powerful, Diego Dalot was just too soft and the defenders didn't work well to secure the equalizer when Hojlund scored his second goal for United.

[Rengga Jati]

Newcastle United showed how to manage money and a club. With a modest squad, they gave PSG a football lesson. Newcastle showed what a true English fan should be like yesterday. They missed this scene and they got used to it very quickly. There was a great atmosphere yesterday, I had a great pleasure watching. Congratulations to Newcastle, they played great football.

Yes, Newcastle has proven its capabilities quite well so far. Moreover, when they beat PSG by a fairly large score, they can really prove themselves as an elite club. But once again, there is still a long way to go in the Champions League. Don't let the victory over PSG make them complacent, so that they feel like they have the upper hand. They still have to focus and try more optimally in the future. Because they also realize that if they are in the hell group there are definitely many possibilities. They have to prepare themselves for the next match against Dortmund. Even though they won over PSG, don't underestimate Dortmund, not because Dortmund is stronger than PSG, but because in the UCL, anything can happen. Continue to focus on the match that will be played and use yesterday's victory as a valuable lesson and high motivation to win again. And I'm sure they will.

[Raflesia]

They didn't play that game with fear, Manchester United had no good midfied and same goes with the defenders they have struggled for both small and big games. The mentality of these players now have gone down.
Bayern Munich did not do too much, Manchester United should have gotten a point if they fought hard enough. Galatasaray wasn't so powerful, Diego Dalot was just too soft and the defenders didn't work well to secure the equalizer when Hojlund scored his second goal for United.

The problem of Manchester United is not in hard work actually but they cannot get good things when some players are not united especially in their communication problems.
We know 2 mistakes were made due to poor co-operation against Galatasaray where it all started with a poor pass that made Casemiro receive a red card and Icardi punished them with a winning goal for Galatasaray.
Now they must realise that co-operation and communication is important so that things like this don't happen again. Match 3 against Copenhagen they will lose Casemiro in midfield on the other hand they also have to be able to win 3 points in this match which of course this will be very difficult for Manchester United.

[Spack17]

I know that whatever we discuss here may not be in line with Ten Hag's ideas, especially in formulating a game plan in a match. Technically Ten Hag has done his best so that his team can get into good form, but it hasn't worked for Manchester United. It's definitely not been a good season for Ten Hag, but I also don't discount the selfishness of some of his players in the game.

Marcus Rashford's performance was completely beyond expectations, I mean he is a player who has had a big downfall earlier this season. Marcus Rashford only scored 1 goal and 1 assist in 7 appearances in the Premier League, while he scored 17 goals and 5 assists last season in 35 appearances. He is clearly a problem at the moment, but the support and trust for him must remain despite Rashford appearing selfish.

I agree with you about the change in Rashford's performance compared to last season. There is a huge difference there. Rashford was way more a team player last season and this was reflecting onto his performance as well. However right now he has returned to being a selfish player again generally. He is having big difficulties in scoring goals too.

Actually he could have made one of his teammates score a goal against Galatasaray after that pass if Sacha Boey didn't intervene. However this is one of the rare examples of team play for Rashford I have seen in this season so far. He is a young player though so I think he would be more consistent in time.

[Cryptomultiplier]

To be fair losing to Bayern was already expected, so getting zero points there wasn't really shocking, I am sure even United fans must be fine with that game, they were expected to be bad, and they fought hard and got 4-3 loss, that's good enough.

The only game at UCL so far that disappointed fans must be the second one against Galatasaray, and yes that's disappointing I agree but it is just one game. If they are thinking about firing ETH then I think it should be based on the league performance, they have been terrible and not doing fine at all, I am not entirely sure if it would continue to make sense if they keep him and they keep losing, I am sure that United will do just fine at UCL, not like they can win it anyway, so the only hope they have would be getting a good result at league and so far they haven't done that neither.

Manchester United is one of the big clubs in Europe and that status should be protected by all means and that's what the current manager Erik Ten Hag isn't doing at the moment. It's absolutely abnormal for a club like Manchester United to concede defeat even before kickoff in a game against Bayern Munich. They played that game with fear and that's why they couldn't get anything from that game.
Against Galatasaray at Old Trafford on Tuesday, many people were expecting to win that game but were surprised to see them beaten at home by the Turkish club. Erik Ten Hag is likely to lose his job should United not make it to the knockout stages of the UEFA Champions League competition

It's not abnormal for a Turkish or a Greecian team to have beaten Manchester United in a UCL match. Even while Sir Alex was the manager, there were so many games he couldn't just win. All they did was wait for a return match and compulsorily secured the point they needed.
The new players are trying hard to settle in and adapt to their new managers tactics, but the older ones know that what makes the team great is the good communication ability, but ego won't just let them be.

Ten Hag will be sacked but no one knows when, and finding the right replacement might take too long and make the team unsettled.