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October 10, 2023, 06:37:17 AM
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Although Galatasaray and Bayan Munich are the best teams in their respective leagues, Bayan Munich will be avoided by many in terms of league qualification. There are many differences between Bayern Munich's playing eleven and Galatasaray's playing eleven. Bayern Munich are capable of beating any team in Europe but not Galatasaray. Everyone is considering Bayern Munich as the big favorites for the Champions League this season, if Galatasaray were a strong team like Bayern Munich or Manchester City, they would also be considered the favorites for the Champions League. Galatasaray may cause accidents in big matches but they will never be able to perform consistently against the big teams.
Galatasaray is always a tough opponent in the Champions League, despite not having a particularly strong squad compared to the others. It won't be an easy match for Bayern Munich when they have to play as guests at Galatasaray's stadium. Perhaps, Galatasaray will aim for a draw against Bayern.
Manchester united team will have to indeed win by all means and I know they would against Copahengen. For Galatasaray, the win may be harder than it would be, because the team is good and their passing accuracy across the pitch is intentional and full of a counter attack impact, if which Onana may not be ready to stop in time should the Manchester United defense remain porous.
The situation in Group A looks grim for Manchester United; they currently sit at the bottom of the table with 2 losses. They absolutely need to secure a win against Copenhagen, or their chances will be over. In my view, Onana shouldn't be featured in this crucial match.

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October 10, 2023, 07:23:55 AM
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The difference in terms of their strength is too far but indeed in real football things like this can be for Galatasaray to try to hold back with a draw.
Now we just need to see what scheme they will show in this match. Trying to keep up with the game from Bayern I don't think this will be too good for Galatasaray but waiting with the parking bus could also be complicated for them so they need to think carefully about what they should do in this match.
Galatasaray has good capital when hosting Bayern Munich. They have always performed well in the domestic league throughout this season, a victory at Manchester United Headquarters can also arouse the enthusiasm of Galatasaray players to provide equal resistance to Bayern Munich. The difference in team quality is very clear between the two, Bayern Munich is the superior team in this match even though they are acting as guests. The enthusiasm of the Galatasaray players can be a good asset for those who want to increase their collection of points to secure a ticket to the knockout rounds.

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October 10, 2023, 07:39:28 AM
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In my opinion, Galatasaray is not a worthy opponent for Bayern Munich, it's just that Manchester United was really bad against them. Bayern Munich is the favorite in that match, in fact I really believe that they are one of the favorites for the title this season. It is true that Bayern Munich should not underestimate Galatasaray, but on paper Galatasaray will not win that match without really getting lucky.

Galatasaray, who is playing at home, certainly deserves to be watched out for because they also have the desire to win points. But when quality and experience become a comparison, then I have no hesitation in saying that Bayern Munich will win that match easily.
The difference in terms of their strength is too far but indeed in real football things like this can be for Galatasaray to try to hold back with a draw.
Now we just need to see what scheme they will show in this match. Trying to keep up with the game from Bayern I don't think this will be too good for Galatasaray but waiting with the parking bus could also be complicated for them so they need to think carefully about what they should do in this match.
Galatasaray just need to give bayern full points and that's enough. There's no need for galatasaray to play parking bus caused by bayern is far superior right now. It's also one of the best club in the world right now.
Galatasaray may able to get draw but it needs a very hard work to make it happen. Im hoping that fucking copenhagen will able to destroy manchester united. It will be so good to see MU play in the europa league instead of UCL caused by mu's level was not in UCL right now. MU may suffer another lose against copenhagen as it must be playing away against it. Copen hagen was quite strong at this moment. The club is having good players that can humiliate manchester united.


@asriloni Galatasary will not win against Bayern because they have a solid team and most importantly Bayern’s keeper knows how to keep unlike Onana. Furthermore they can try and frustrate Bayern to earn an point but it would be a risky strategy hence I feel that they should take their chances and attack Bayern and hope for an miracle.
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October 10, 2023, 08:05:49 AM
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Galatasaray has good capital when hosting Bayern Munich. They have always performed well in the domestic league throughout this season, a victory at Manchester United Headquarters can also arouse the enthusiasm of Galatasaray players to provide equal resistance to Bayern Munich. The difference in team quality is very clear between the two, Bayern Munich is the superior team in this match even though they are acting as guests. The enthusiasm of the Galatasaray players can be a good asset for those who want to increase their collection of points to secure a ticket to the knockout rounds.

I agree with increasing their points collection. Expecting Galatasaray to win the match is quite impossible. The confidence they have built up due to the win against United is great and at least it will keep them motivated to give Munich a fight. A draw for Galatasaray is the most realistic thing in my opinion. And for Munich I think this will be quite a difficult match because Galatasaray is the host and they will host Munich after getting a win at MU's home ground.

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October 10, 2023, 08:15:55 AM
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Galatasary will not win against Bayern because they have a solid team and most importantly Bayern’s keeper knows how to keep unlike Onana. Furthermore they can try and frustrate Bayern to earn an point but it would be a risky strategy hence I feel that they should take their chances and attack Bayern and hope for an miracle.

Galatasaray will definitely try to play attacking football, because playing defensively against Bayern is almost a death sentence. But Galatasaray has a bad defense, they concede a lot of goals and even despite their desire to play attacking football, Bayern will most likely score more goals against them. Galatasaray has a very long unbeaten streak, but all streaks must end at some point, Bayern will help them with this.

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October 10, 2023, 08:21:21 AM
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Facing Galatasaray cannot be taken lightly. Because Galatasaray really has a very fast counterattack strategy. But Galatasaray's defense is actually not that good either. Sometimes their defenders move too far forward and are too late when returning to the back area. And I'm sure Bayern will be able to beat Galatasaray. Because the quality of Bayern's attack and defense is at a higher level. Galatasaray in the match against Man Utd they were very difficult. Even though we know Man Utd is not at its best this season. Meanwhile, Bayern is currently still in good form. But Bayern should not underestimate Galatasaray. because maybe Galatasaray will give a surprise.
When it comes to quality of players between Bayern Munich and Galatasaray, it's very obvious that Bayern Munich are better the Turkish club.
That being said, Bayern Munich must play in their full strength if they really want to win double header games they have against Galatasaray. At Manchester United last week, Galatasaray showed that they're not a team to mess around with as they defeated the English Premier League club in their own turf. Bayern Munich is very beatable and would be beaten by Galatasaray if they underrate their opponents.
I really agree that the quality of Bayern's players is much better than Galatasaray's players. And normally I also believe that Bayern will win the match. And the worst result might just be a draw.

It's just that sometimes the position as host sometimes has unexpected impacts and can make a team that was originally underestimated become stronger than many people expected. My prediction is that Bayern will dominate the match. But they will have a little difficulty scoring goals.

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October 10, 2023, 08:36:10 AM
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Currently the quotes are as follows:

Newcastle 1.28
PSG 1.33
Milan 2.75
Dortmund 4.00

Regarding Newcastle, I have no doubts - they look solid, but the other three clubs, although they have very different odds, in fact, I would say they have similar opportunities. Each round can turn an underdog into at least the second team in the group. The next round will be uncompromising - the guests must win in both pairs. If Newcastle and PSG win, they will most likely cement the current situation.

At least newcastle is still better than dortmund. The worst achievement probably to be on the third place but acmilan worries me. I meant the position of acmilan is not that good at this moment. It was also able earning only 2 points from a few matches in the group stage.
Although there is only a small gap between Dortmund and the second position, the probability of them reaching the play off is currently very low. I hope newcastle will be qualified for play off. Im willing to see this club to face strong club like real madrid or bayern munchen.

Howe's squad will also get a lot of experience from playing against the big team in the play off stage. I would rather pick acmilan to pass the group stage rather than PSG. I hope miracle will come for acmilan to qualify for the next round.
This group was the hardest group to predict. Anyone faced difficulty in determining the winner even those odds can still change anytime as the gap were not too between all of them.

Taking into account the fact that Newcastle will most likely take first place in the group, the likelihood that we will see a pair of Newcastle - Bayern or Real - Newcastle is very small since both Real and Bayern have so far shown 100% results and will most likely take first place in their groups.
In general, due to the absence of Liverpool and Chelsea in the Champions League (and the presence of a group of death where strong teams beat each other already at the group stage), the likelihood of “big” games in the early stages of the playoffs is seriously reduced. As always, all the fun starts with 1/4.

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The difference in terms of their strength is too far but indeed in real football things like this can be for Galatasaray to try to hold back with a draw.
Now we just need to see what scheme they will show in this match. Trying to keep up with the game from Bayern I don't think this will be too good for Galatasaray but waiting with the parking bus could also be complicated for them so they need to think carefully about what they should do in this match.
I'm not sure Galatasaray will be able to complicate Bayern Munich's plans in that match, of course because I think Bayern Munich have good goal statistics so far. Galatasaray have been quite strong so far and maybe that can help them prevent Kane et al from scoring lots of goals, but I believe Bayern Munich will be really hard to stop this season.

Harry Kane has scored 1 goal and 1 assist in the Champions League in 2 appearances, while Kane has also scored 8 goals and 4 assists in 7 appearances in the Bundesliga. I believe Kane et al will be difficult to stop and Tuchel's plan for that match is to win, but if Galatasaray manages to win points in that match then I believe they will have a good chance of qualifying for the last 16.

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October 10, 2023, 08:49:41 AM
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Harry Kane has scored 1 goal and 1 assist in the Champions League in 2 appearances, while Kane has also scored 8 goals and 4 assists in 7 appearances in the Bundesliga. I believe Kane et al will be difficult to stop and Tuchel's plan for that match is to win, but if Galatasaray manages to win points in that match then I believe they will have a good chance of qualifying for the last 16.

The odds are not in favor of Bayern Munich in the champions league this season; their performances under Tuchel has not been anywhere near excellent or consistent; and in the UCL, Conceding 3 goals to a poor Manchester United size depicts that the ucl is not for Bayern Munich this season. Will Tuchel boys hit the quarter finals; i believe thats happening.

Now Bayern can only hope for a kind draw, if they want to play the champions league finals next year.
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The odds are not in favor of Bayern Munich in the champions league this season; their performances under Tuchel has not been anywhere near excellent or consistent; and in the UCL, Conceding 3 goals to a poor Manchester United size depicts that the ucl is not for Bayern Munich this season. Will Tuchel boys hit the quarter finals; i believe thats happening.

Now Bayern can only hope for a kind draw, if they want to play the champions league finals next year.
Now all teams are still in the group stage so any team still has plenty of time to make improvements so as not to concede more goals in the next match. Because it won't be very accurate if you only judge Bayern Munich through the goals conceded by Bayern Munich when facing Manchester United. Tuchel is not the type of person who remains silent when he sees the results obtained by the team he manages, so Tuchel will continue to make significant improvements for Bayern Munich so that they can achieve quite good results in the Champions League this season, although at this time I also Not sure that Bayern Munich will be able to win a trophy in the Champions League.
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October 10, 2023, 10:06:45 AM
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Harry Kane has scored 1 goal and 1 assist in the Champions League in 2 appearances, while Kane has also scored 8 goals and 4 assists in 7 appearances in the Bundesliga. I believe Kane et al will be difficult to stop and Tuchel's plan for that match is to win, but if Galatasaray manages to win points in that match then I believe they will have a good chance of qualifying for the last 16.

The odds are not in favor of Bayern Munich in the champions league this season; their performances under Tuchel has not been anywhere near excellent or consistent; and in the UCL, Conceding 3 goals to a poor Manchester United size depicts that the ucl is not for Bayern Munich this season. Will Tuchel boys hit the quarter finals; i believe thats happening.

Now Bayern can only hope for a kind draw, if they want to play the champions league finals next year.
Bayern may not be at their very best now but it will not be fair enough to just rule them out with just two games played in the UCL, remember in the bundesliga which happens to be their domestic league they started on a very good note and was somewhere around the second position on the table until recently when they suffered some losses, but they still haven't dropped so bad in their performance so there is definitely enough of hope for them.

Conceding three goals against Manchester united isn't something you consider as been too bad of them because Manchester didn't play weak in that game and on a normal instance Manchester isn't a weak team and they have got enough of UCL experience except for recent cases of injuries and crisis the team is facing, they would be able to get a win and it wouldn't be surprising but then very importantly Munich got three points.

I'm very optimistic Tuchel's boys will make it to the knock out stage and even beyond but I'm not certain of them making it to the finals, but tuchel has got what it take to get there, he is not a coach with weak foresight he has always been someone with a strong drive to get to the top and he won't do any less with the German giant.

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Taking into account the fact that Newcastle will most likely take first place in the group, the likelihood that we will see a pair of Newcastle - Bayern or Real - Newcastle is very small since both Real and Bayern have so far shown 100% results and will most likely take first place in their groups.
In general, due to the absence of Liverpool and Chelsea in the Champions League (and the presence of a group of death where strong teams beat each other already at the group stage), the likelihood of “big” games in the early stages of the playoffs is seriously reduced. As always, all the fun starts with 1/4.

If you look at predictions based on matches that have been played, the possibility of meeting a big match at 1/8 is very small. There are many new teams that are quite strong here, but what I highlight are the big matches from big European teams. Yes as you have said the big match will happen in 1/4 but many interesting matches will happen in 1/8. Very excited to see new teams play against teams with a long tradition and history in the Champions League.

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The odds are not in favor of Bayern Munich in the champions league this season; their performances under Tuchel has not been anywhere near excellent or consistent; and in the UCL, Conceding 3 goals to a poor Manchester United size depicts that the ucl is not for Bayern Munich this season. Will Tuchel boys hit the quarter finals; i believe thats happening.

Now Bayern can only hope for a kind draw, if they want to play the champions league finals next year.
I am still quite sure that Bayern Munich will show something better over time this season so that they become one of the teams to be reckoned with in the Champions League, because there is still plenty of time for Tuchel to change his team to perform better and more consistently, but to be honest champions it seems like they will still face difficulties even though it is not impossible because we remember how Chelsea under Tuchel's guidance at that time were not seeded in the final but they were the ones who managed to win so even though it was difficult Bayern Munich is still a team that has the ability to lift the trophy even though the competition is very tight looking at champions league kings underwent a very good change this season after they bought Jude Bellingham.

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October 10, 2023, 10:44:40 AM
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Harry Kane has scored 1 goal and 1 assist in the Champions League in 2 appearances, while Kane has also scored 8 goals and 4 assists in 7 appearances in the Bundesliga. I believe Kane et al will be difficult to stop and Tuchel's plan for that match is to win, but if Galatasaray manages to win points in that match then I believe they will have a good chance of qualifying for the last 16.

The odds are not in favor of Bayern Munich in the champions league this season; their performances under Tuchel has not been anywhere near excellent or consistent; and in the UCL, Conceding 3 goals to a poor Manchester United size depicts that the ucl is not for Bayern Munich this season. Will Tuchel boys hit the quarter finals; i believe thats happening.

Now Bayern can only hope for a kind draw, if they want to play the champions league finals next year.

In as much as I don't rate Bayern Munich, it doesn't mean they are not up to any task. They conceded 3 goals from Manchester United, didn't Manchester United concede 4 goals as well, you don't expect Manchester United to lose easily to Bayern Munich, do you? The odds that day wasn't too different between Bayern and Manchester because even the bookies know what's up but since they lost that match, it was becoming too easy to understand Manchester United's next move but for Bayern, I think Galatasaray are good form but they are not going to have Bayern so easily, not that easy.

You know one thing about the Champions League, it is the teams that bragged the most always end up in the trash bin, not saying Bayern Munich will go to the final as to oppose what you said but I hope you understand my point better if you check the last year Champions League, you will know better. I have not seen any weak spots around Bayern Munich, not an injured players, so what is not stoping them from achieving more. I think all this is because we are still in the group stage, if we get to knockout stage, lots of teams many hope on with their bets will by then be at home while the least expected teams will still be around striving to get that final cup.

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October 10, 2023, 10:47:26 AM
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Harry Kane has scored 1 goal and 1 assist in the Champions League in 2 appearances, while Kane has also scored 8 goals and 4 assists in 7 appearances in the Bundesliga. I believe Kane et al will be difficult to stop and Tuchel's plan for that match is to win, but if Galatasaray manages to win points in that match then I believe they will have a good chance of qualifying for the last 16.

The odds are not in favor of Bayern Munich in the champions league this season; their performances under Tuchel has not been anywhere near excellent or consistent; and in the UCL, Conceding 3 goals to a poor Manchester United size depicts that the ucl is not for Bayern Munich this season. Will Tuchel boys hit the quarter finals; i believe thats happening.

Now Bayern can only hope for a kind draw, if they want to play the champions league finals next year.

It seems to me that even if Bayern are not the main candidate for the championship this season, they are still much better than other clubs like Barcelona or PSG... Right now Bayern are in first place in the group and have won two games... That's a good result...

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October 10, 2023, 11:01:42 AM
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It seems to me that even if Bayern are not the main candidate for the championship this season, they are still much better than other clubs like Barcelona or PSG... Right now Bayern are in first place in the group and have won two games... That's a good result...
  This season would be very favorable for Bayern Munich in the UCL cause their group doesn't even got much threat and the only team (Manchester United) that would've been a threat to them finishing 1st place in their group is not in good shape and has lost 2 matches currently to keep them at the bottom of their group standings, however Bayern have won twice and would definitely win against Galatasaray in their next UCL game to get 9 points even though they're not playing in their home ground.

 Barcelona are not really bad and would go far this season in the UCL, just like Bayern they're the group leaders in Group H and have secured 6 points so I believe they'll quality for the next round, their performance this season in the UCL is better than last seasons, however PSG is not performing as expected but atleast they're in the 2nd position in their group but I dount if they'll qualify for the next round.

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October 10, 2023, 11:08:56 AM
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I'm not sure Galatasaray will be able to complicate Bayern Munich's plans in that match, of course because I think Bayern Munich have good goal statistics so far. Galatasaray have been quite strong so far and maybe that can help them prevent Kane et al from scoring lots of goals, but I believe Bayern Munich will be really hard to stop this season.

Harry Kane has scored 1 goal and 1 assist in the Champions League in 2 appearances, while Kane has also scored 8 goals and 4 assists in 7 appearances in the Bundesliga. I believe Kane et al will be difficult to stop and Tuchel's plan for that match is to win, but if Galatasaray manages to win points in that match then I believe they will have a good chance of qualifying for the last 16.

The first leg match will be played at Galatasaray headquarters, like it or not, Okan Buruk will prepare his team to provide resistance when they host Bayern Munich. At least if they fail to overthrow Bayern, Galatasaray will look for a draw point to maintain its ranking in the Group A phase and hope that Manchester United's match will also be a draw against Copenhagen. Or, Okan as Galatasaray coach still has to prepare his team to play offensively.
The point is that they also want to get through from the Group A phase, especially since Galatasaray is now in 2nd place. The opportunity to qualify for the next phase is quite wide open for Galatasaray, especially if the team coached by Okan Buruk is able to match the play of the squad coached by Thomas Thucel.

As I said above, at least they are aiming to get a point, even just 1 point. but it is not an easy matter for them even though they are playing at home. because after all, Galatasaray and Bayern Munich have a fairly unequal level, we can compare them based on the quality of the players, as well as the team's performance. and as we all agree, Bayern has a big chance to win matchday 3 of the Champions League group phase. and I suspect, this match will present an interesting match.


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October 10, 2023, 11:34:40 AM
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Harry Kane has scored 1 goal and 1 assist in the Champions League in 2 appearances, while Kane has also scored 8 goals and 4 assists in 7 appearances in the Bundesliga. I believe Kane et al will be difficult to stop and Tuchel's plan for that match is to win, but if Galatasaray manages to win points in that match then I believe they will have a good chance of qualifying for the last 16.
It's difficult for Galatasaray to get full points against Munich and I'm sure it's easy for Munich to beat Galatasaray, Kane and the Munich players now seem to have adapted quickly so we can see Kane perform very well in the domestic league and UCL, Munich will not share points with Galatasaray like Usually the full three points are Munich's main target to qualify for the next round.

Tuchel will of course prepare a mature strategy in facing Galatasaray later, even though Munich is playing as a guest, it will not stop Munich from winning the full three points and leading group A so that they remain safe in qualifying for the next round of 16. So far Munich has played very well so they seem to have a chance to win the UCL title this season if they perform consistently.

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October 10, 2023, 11:39:17 AM
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The counterattack that Bayern must anticipate when facing Galatasaray because seeing from their game against Manchester United, the long passes of the Galatasaray players for counterattacks are quite troublesome and this must be anticipated by Bayern who always attack by locking up the defence and their players always come out of their posts to help attacks such as Davies and Mazroui who are always active in helping Bayern's attacks this could be a gap for Galatasaray.
But I'm pretty sure with the current difference in strength then this will not be a problem for Bayern and they will still win 3 points in this match.
Bayern Munich also have to control the midfield if they want to limit Galatasaray's space and long balls are their mainstay when counter-attacking. Even though Bayern Munich has much better strength than Galatasaray, Tuchel must be careful if he doesn't want to lose points when hosting Galatasaray, because after all Okan Buruk will try to maximize the home game to have a chance of qualifying for the next round

Galatasaray's front line also looks very good, Ikardi and Saha have a balanced speed in building attacks, these two players played a big role in beating Manchester United at Old Trafford. Galatasaray also has a good defense and they don't concede more than 3 goals in each match, so Tuchel must implement a strategy that is suitable for his team in breaking into their goal.
To be honest, when Tuchel implemented the 4-2-3-1 Scheme, it was an indication that they prepared the midfield well so that their dominance in a match was well organised.
Goretzka and Kimmich who are good enough as defensive midfielders but can always help the attack is obviously very good for them plus 3 attacking midfielders where Gnarby and Sane who can just move quickly to the side of the field assisted by Davies it clearly benefits them in controlling the midfield so I don't think something like that is a big problem.
But in the end this also depends on Galatasaray whether they will try to apply a defensive scheme in this case or instead take the risk of trying to match the fast style of Bayern.
Because it's a defensive option, it can be good but it can also be a blunder when letting Bayern get control of the ball for too long.

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October 10, 2023, 12:32:55 PM
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I felt the great atmosphere when Union Berlin was able to penetrate the Champions League zone for the first time this season, but they were having quite a difficult time and had never won once because they were in the same group as Real Madrid and Napoli. But unfortunately when they played against Braga in the previous match they failed to win and only lost with a narrow score of 2-3.

Apart from that, their chances are now getting thinner because in their next match they will face Napoli, who currently really need 3 points to maintain their chances of qualifying as runners up after being humiliated by Real Madrid last week in front of the fans. I think Union Berlin's chances of being in the Champions League this season are gone, but at least they still have the chance to play in the European League if they manage to get 3rd place in Group C.

When Union Berlin managed to get a Champions League ticket, Union Berlin basically indeed did not have a chance to go further in the Champions League. Because after all, even teams like Bayern Munich and Dortmund, basically still need a very big effort to be able to go further in the Champion League such as to qualify for the knockout stages until to the final match. Moreover, Union Berlin is in a group where it is difficult for Union Berlin to get points in each match. Therefore, I am personally not surprised that Union Berlin has failed to get points so far in the Champions League match, because basically Union Berlin no chance here.
Maybe if they were in a group that wasn't so dominated by strong teams then they would at least have a chance to get through the group phase. But again, this is the first time they have set foot in Europe's highest competition and when compared to Braga, which almost every season can enter the group stage, Union Berlin's experience is still very limited. On the other hand, it seems that they have to be willing to accept this situation and I hope that their experience in the Champions League this season can be used as motivation to continue to develop better.

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