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August 21, 2023, 06:29:52 PM
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Right now, the scale of the injustices that must arise in the country has become unbearable. What kind of theft is this, what kind of brazenness is this? How do these thieves run around so easily? Terrorist organizations and the mafia need to be removed from football urgently. What season is this fixed? It's the same game played last season. The operation started from the second week. Isn't there a single honorable prosecutor in the country who will put a stop to this? Clean hands operation must be initiated immediately. Otherwise, a garbage league whose name has been mixed with match-fixing from the 2nd week will not benefit anyone.
I don't want or like to talk like this but it is totally visible what is going on. The head of Turkish Football Federation is obviously an enemy of Besiktas. There is literal visible hostility between him and the president of Besiktas. Then these decisions from referees happen. But there is fault from Besiktas side also. The transfers were too late. For example Chamberlain just joined the team and couldn't perform properly. Besiktas lost valuable time to get good transfers and now precious points are lost. If they were a better team like they were supposed to, they would not be effected by the horrible referee decisions too much. Unfortunately, hard times await Besiktas this year.

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August 21, 2023, 07:23:21 PM
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It is obvious that we are at the early stages of the season just yet, we can't really see what will happen or how teams will do, we are just seeing the current situation as it is.

The one thing common is that almost every team is angry at the refs, and that means that we are seeing refs not doing so well, it is obvious that we are going to end up more and more anger towards them over time, if it is already started at second week, and it is not just one team, all teams are showing some disregard for them, then I would guess that it is not going to end up being nice for any team. They should do something about it, I do not know what they should do about it but I know that it should not be really going the way it is right now.

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August 21, 2023, 07:28:03 PM
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I don't want or like to talk like this but it is totally visible what is going on. The head of Turkish Football Federation is obviously an enemy of Besiktas. There is literal visible hostility between him and the president of Besiktas. Then these decisions from referees happen. But there is fault from Besiktas side also. The transfers were too late. For example Chamberlain just joined the team and couldn't perform properly. Besiktas lost valuable time to get good transfers and now precious points are lost. If they were a better team like they were supposed to, they would not be effected by the horrible referee decisions too much. Unfortunately, hard times await Besiktas this year.

Everyone knows that the President of the Federation is a member of a terrorist organization. Despite this, he can stay in his office by using the political power behind him. The man who should be imprisoned in a normal democracy has been put in charge of football in this country. Anyone who doesn't react to it is complicit in this crime.
Yesterday's scandal will not be forgotten throughout the season. Unfortunately, they polluted the league from the second week of the season. I wonder how they will pass the whole season like this.

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August 21, 2023, 09:19:42 PM
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The first half of the Samsunspor - Fenerbahce wasn't very entertaining. Fenerbahce had more goal attempts than their opponent maybe but these attempts still didn't find the target mostly. But there was a better Fenerbahce in the second half. They started to make use of their goal opportunities much more effectively.

Dzeko continued to score in this match as well. He has been doing really great since the day he joined the team. Maybe he is 37 years old but it doesn't look like he is really. I liken his performance at this age to Gomis at Galatasaray.  Grin

You know how great Gomis played for Galatasaray despite being really old. A similar thing is happening to Fenerbahce now.

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August 21, 2023, 09:48:32 PM
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I didnt follow this league approx. more than 2 years but this year with this big transfer its time to start watching again. As a Beşiktaş fan, of course I want my team to be the champion. But at same time I can accept Fenerbahçe as a champion. They have been waiting sooo long for the 4th star. And also its clear that they are so ready for this season. Only they reached 6 point in the first two weeks. Its tooo early say that but lets see if this their lucky year Smiley
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August 21, 2023, 10:37:22 PM
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First we had Galatasaray fans (like me) who was angry at the ref and he butchered our game and we hated the ref all day long, next day Besiktas played a game and as we can see Besiktas fans are hating on the ref as well, and then today we have Fenerbahce fans who are complaining about the ref. And you know what the common point is? They are all right, the sad part is that each team makes the other team to blame for this. You ask fener fans and they will tell you that refs are on Galatasarays side, you ask Galatasaray fans and they think refs are on Feners side, they all think that refs are favoring one team. Reality is simple; the refs suck in our league and we need to do something about it.

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August 21, 2023, 10:51:48 PM
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First we had Galatasaray fans (like me) who was angry at the ref and he butchered our game and we hated the ref all day long, next day Besiktas played a game and as we can see Besiktas fans are hating on the ref as well, and then today we have Fenerbahce fans who are complaining about the ref. And you know what the common point is? They are all right, the sad part is that each team makes the other team to blame for this. You ask fener fans and they will tell you that refs are on Galatasarays side, you ask Galatasaray fans and they think refs are on Feners side, they all think that refs are favoring one team. Reality is simple; the refs suck in our league and we need to do something about it.

All team's fans have the right to complain about it. So far, many teams have lost points or even championships due to mistakes made by referees, whether intentional (Many old referees admitted) or unintentional. There are even teams that have scored goals by referees (like Beşiktaş). Unfortunately, even after the VAR system, we still have referees who cannot properly manage a match. If it were a building, I would say tear it down and start to build again, but these are human beings who don't seem to learn from their mistakes. Therefore we are  only able to complain about it .
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There is no league that uses the VAR system so badly. There isn't much to say.

I like both teams tonight, I think they played very well. Of course Fenerbahçe played better and got 3 points.
The second goal was nice.

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Ankaragücü drew 1-1 with Adana Demirspor. I expected more goals in a game where both teams had plenty of chances, but both teams struggled to capitalize on these chances. The goals came in the first half. In the second half we observed a drop in the performance of both teams.
Fenerbahçe won the Samsunspor-Fenerbahçe match by playing a good game. In the first half, Fenerbahçe played a dominant football and had the upper hand, but could not find a goal. Fenerbahçe started the second half with speed and energy. With the goals of Dzeko and Szymanski they got 3 points and took the lead.

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Its not good to the league this kind of start, seeing two of the contenders already having a tie in only two games, im refering to Besiktas and Galtasaray, i know its too early but i dont want to see a big gap b etween contenders.

In other things, what a bad start for Basakshir, two loses, really bad for them.

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August 22, 2023, 05:03:56 PM
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Last night, Fenerbahçe defeated Samsunspor 2-0. Both teams had many goal attempts but these attempts weren't still find the target mostly at first half. We watched a better Fenerbahce in the second half. Szymański is a much better quality football player than Mert Hakan Yandaş. I would like to watch Szymański last night with Fenerbahçe jersey for 90 minutes.

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Fenerbahce have finally reached the happy ending about Livakovic transfer.  Smiley  Fabrizio Romano tweeted about this transfer an hour ago. On Wednesday he is going to have his medical and sign for Fenerbahce. This was a really needed transfer for them honestly. Because Altay's performance has been horrible for a long time.

On one hand Altay has also had his medical for Manchester United and he is going to be signing for them soon. Manchester United have accepted to buy his release clause.

Fenerbahce must be really satisfied with these news coming with a short break.

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Fenerbahçe continues its transfer season at a fast pace. Looking at the latest developments, we can say that Altay Bayindir will transfer to Manchester United. We can say that this transfer may have been forced by the fans in a way. The fans were not supporting Altay in the matches and wanted him to leave. We can say that they finally succeeded. Instead of Altay, Livakovic will be in Istanbul and Fenerbahce will have taken a really good step in terms of transfers. We can say that they have strengthened every position and Ali Koç, who now wants the team to be champions with a definite language, has been generous in spending money this year. I think he has won the hearts of the fans with these transfers. If the championship comes at the end of the season, the team can find the strength to continue its presidency. Because we know that he will pay most of the transfers in installments. We can say that this will be a plus for both him and the new incoming administration if he loses in a possible election. He thought of everything and calculated how Fenerbahçe would get the least damage from these transfers. He should really be congratulated. I can say that this year Ali Koç is having the best year of his presidency.

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Last night, Fenerbahçe defeated Samsunspor 2-0. Both teams had many goal attempts but these attempts weren't still find the target mostly at first half. We watched a better Fenerbahce in the second half. Szymański is a much better quality football player than Mert Hakan Yandaş. I would like to watch Szymański last night with Fenerbahçe jersey for 90 minutes.

Fenerbahce is a great team in the Turkish Super League, so it is still natural that Fenerbahce managed to get three points again on the second matchday of the season. Also, Samsunspor is just a promoted team and it would not be surprising if in this match Samsunspor lost from all statistics because after all, it is clear that Samsunspor does not have the quality to be able to beat Fenerbahce. With a victory for Fenerbahce in this match then yes, at least managed to make Fenerbahce can be at the top of this temporary standings, and it is still good for Fenerbahce for the start of this season.

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August 23, 2023, 10:24:10 AM
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All team's fans have the right to complain about it. So far, many teams have lost points or even championships due to mistakes made by referees, whether intentional (Many old referees admitted) or unintentional. There are even teams that have scored goals by referees (like Beşiktaş). Unfortunately, even after the VAR system, we still have referees who cannot properly manage a match. If it were a building, I would say tear it down and start to build again, but these are human beings who don't seem to learn from their mistakes. Therefore we are  only able to complain about it .
Same could be done about organizations. If the referees here do not have a good way to continue and they keep making mistakes after mistakes, they could just hire refs from other nations and that has been a topic of discussion at twitter as far as I can see.

I am obviously not that much well versed in Turkish football but from what I gather at some football influencers and their replies, Turkish teams suggested they should get some good ref organization to come in and not only end up with ruling the games but also have some educational system for younger refs as well. That way there will not be any possible way for them to fake it or make bad decisions, they will not have any personal favorite, or any influence they should care about from the top.

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August 23, 2023, 10:34:56 AM
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Fenerbahce have finally reached the happy ending about Livakovic transfer.  Smiley  Fabrizio Romano tweeted about this transfer an hour ago. On Wednesday he is going to have his medical and sign for Fenerbahce. This was a really needed transfer for them honestly. Because Altay's performance has been horrible for a long time.

On one hand Altay has also had his medical for Manchester United and he is going to be signing for them soon. Manchester United have accepted to buy his release clause.

Fenerbahce must be really satisfied with these news coming with a short break.

Yes, Fenerbahce have really been after this goalkeeper for a long time period. Livakovic impressed everyone by his performance in the latest World Cup you know. After that even some big teams started to be speculated with him. Recently I have even read the news that Real Madrid are interested in him. But they signed Kepa instead. This was a good chance for Fenerbahce to complete the transfer of Livakovic in a short time before a bigger team tries to intervene.

When it comes to Altay Bayindir I don't know what really happened with him. He was a promising goalkeeper once but suddenly his performance got much worse. I don't think he would have much chance at Manchester United either.

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August 23, 2023, 12:48:13 PM
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Right now, the scale of the injustices that must arise in the country has become unbearable. What kind of theft is this, what kind of brazenness is this? How do these thieves run around so easily? Terrorist organizations and the mafia need to be removed from football urgently. What season is this fixed? It's the same game played last season. The operation started from the second week. Isn't there a single honorable prosecutor in the country who will put a stop to this? Clean hands operation must be initiated immediately. Otherwise, a garbage league whose name has been mixed with match-fixing from the 2nd week will not benefit anyone.
I don't want or like to talk like this but it is totally visible what is going on. The head of Turkish Football Federation is obviously an enemy of Besiktas. There is literal visible hostility between him and the president of Besiktas. Then these decisions from referees happen. But there is fault from Besiktas side also. The transfers were too late. For example Chamberlain just joined the team and couldn't perform properly. Besiktas lost valuable time to get good transfers and now precious points are lost. If they were a better team like they were supposed to, they would not be effected by the horrible referee decisions too much. Unfortunately, hard times await Besiktas this year.
I agree that the transfer season is late for Beşiktaş. While the transfer season was opening, while the transfer of Dusan Tadic was being talked about, his rivals Fenerbahçe transferred him. Tadic is currently playing a very good game in Fenerbahçe. I'm sure Beşiktaş fans wish they were with us. Chamberlain arrived late, other players' transfers were late. At this stage, Beşiktaş, which also played in European matches, lost points. I wish there was a fiery championship race this season. I hope they can reach a higher level as a team in the near future.

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I don't want or like to talk like this but it is totally visible what is going on. The head of Turkish Football Federation is obviously an enemy of Besiktas. There is literal visible hostility between him and the president of Besiktas. Then these decisions from referees happen. But there is fault from Besiktas side also. The transfers were too late. For example Chamberlain just joined the team and couldn't perform properly. Besiktas lost valuable time to get good transfers and now precious points are lost. If they were a better team like they were supposed to, they would not be effected by the horrible referee decisions too much. Unfortunately, hard times await Besiktas this year.
I agree that the transfer season is late for Beşiktaş. While the transfer season was opening, while the transfer of Dusan Tadic was being talked about, his rivals Fenerbahçe transferred him. Tadic is currently playing a very good game in Fenerbahçe. I'm sure Beşiktaş fans wish they were with us. Chamberlain arrived late, other players' transfers were late. At this stage, Beşiktaş, which also played in European matches, lost points. I wish there was a fiery championship race this season. I hope they can reach a higher level as a team in the near future.
I bet that they are going to be fine. I am not really following them closely  but I follow the league to bet on them and I can see that they are almost always favored to win their games. Just because they didn't once, doesn't mean that they will keep being bad. Plus they got some late transfers like you said, which means that they are going to get better with time when those players get in shape and start playing.

I feel like no team that ends up being favorites for most of the games they play should be considered that much of a big deal, it's really just something to expect and consider possible to win the league as well. I am not saying they will, but we can't say that they do not have that possibility neither.
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August 23, 2023, 08:16:01 PM
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Philippe Coutinho is rumoured for Besiktas. It is reported that Besiktas are preparing a salary offer like 5 million euros a year for Coutinho.

What do you think about Coutinho? He was a really great player with impressive skills in the past. But since the day he joined Barcelona he hasn't been himself. Now he isn't an admired player as much as in the past. If he was Besiktas couldn't have signed him though.  Grin  I don't know if he can improve his performance in case of signing for Besiktas. But while there is an opportunity it looks like they will go for him anyway. I wonder if he will be like Dele Alli or do better than him.

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August 23, 2023, 10:54:47 PM
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Philippe Coutinho is rumoured for Besiktas. It is reported that Besiktas are preparing a salary offer like 5 million euros a year for Coutinho.

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Beşiktaş worked on the transfer of Talisca and Ramos until a few days ago. They met with Talisca and his club and also met with Ramos. However, a few days after these negotiations, they cited financial conditions and announced that they were abandoning these transfers. I think the news about Besiktas and Coutinho doesn't reflect the truth because if Besiktas were in a position to pay that kind of money, they would have done it for Talisca or Ramos. I don't think Beşiktaş can pay 5 million euros per year for Coutinho. I think this news doesn't reflect the truth.

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