⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽

[Dimitri94]

For Chelsea's target of finishing in the top 4 or 5, I don't think it will ever happen, they don't deserve it, they still have a lot to fix and it's possible that won't be possible this season.

Actually, the statement to say whether it is appropriate or not is not worth pinning down because all clubs deserve to be there, but on the other hand, there is truth in what you say, that it is better to focus on improving yourself for next season, if this season you only finish in the bottom of the top ten, it will not work. disturbing the club's reputation because everyone knows that Chelsea is in difficult times, it's not surprising that Chelsea often lose points in important matches, but from their last five matches they only lost two times, the remaining three wins are positive things that Chelsea has shown in my opinion.

After Chelsea's disappointing performance in the English Premier League last season, Mauricio Pochentino was brought to the club to help significantly improve their performance this season as well as making sure that they finish in the top four of the league table at the end of the current season but considering what we've seen so far from the team, I don't think that there's any possibility for the Blues to finish in the top four of the league table.

After their humiliating defeat at Anfield two days ago, it became very clear to the club's fans and management that the best they can do at the moment is to finish in the top six which I also think will be very difficult for the London club

The appointment of Argentine professional football manager Mauricio Pochettino has not been able to change Chelsea's fortunes. Chelsea is currently in 10th place.  In their last five matches they have won 3 and lost 2. Chelsea's lack of performance of the players is adding more problems of the manager Pochettino's. It is very difficult to imagine a top four in the position they are staying right now. Almost every team has completed 22 matches so far. The team that is in the top 4 of the points table has 43 points and Chelsea's current point is 31. Here it is easy to understand that Chelsea is far behind by a large point gap.

[1715360019]

1715360019

[1715360019]

1715360019

[1715360019]

1715360019

[1715360019]

1715360019

[klidex]

For Chelsea's target of finishing in the top 4 or 5, I don't think it will ever happen, they don't deserve it, they still have a lot to fix and it's possible that won't be possible this season.

I agree with what you said. They don't deserve it. Chelsea's performance has been really bad this season. I don't know which fan said Chelsea could possibly reach the top 4 or 5 at the end of the season. I think at the moment Tottenham, Aston Villa and West Ham are much better than Chelsea so it's completely unreasonable to say Chelsea will be able to get a place in the top 4 or five at the end of the season. They have to correct their mistakes in this season because I don't think they will get any place in the international league in the next season.

Not only they do not deserve it, I also think that we are not going to end up with anything near that level for them this season, they are lucky to be in top 10 this season and just should be happy with that. They are barely 10th now, and I think they will stay around that level, 11th is just 2 points away from them but they are also only 1 point behind 9th, so it means they have to fight for their spot right now.

I think they will finish barely within top ten and they should be happy if they can actually achieve it. You don't have to be a good team right away, they are spending some money and they may become better in the future but for the current season they just need to make sure that they are finishing it as high as possible.

I think it is impossible for Chelsea to occupy the top 4 or 5 level because based on the performance and quality of Chelsea's players it seems that it is not yet possible to approach that ranking, Chelsea's performance is still far from consistent while the clubs that are in the top 5 are better and more consistent and most deserve to be at that level. Even if they want to reach that level, Chelsea will have to wait for Tottenham, Aston Villa and West Ham to experience defeat in the next few matches, but it looks like they will not let defeat hit them because these clubs will continue to fight for the Champions League and European League zones.

Yes, I think so too because Chelsea's performance has not really improved since last season and is still struggling among the mid-table clubs and it is possible that Chelsea will still end this season in the middle of the standings as I said before and will definitely change coaches again because Pochettino has not provided good changes. I hope Jose Mourinho can return to managing this club and can improve Chelsea's performance like a big Premier League club.

[Strongkored]

Manchester United are so short of players this season that they cannot perform well without the right players. Of course, Manchester United needs a star while the defense is strong, but the attack is not so strong. So it definitely needs a star in the attack department.

Manchester United have 27 players that are more than their city club Manchester City which only has 22 players, and they have quite a lot of new players this season both purchased or free transfers and also loan status, so they are not short of players Manchester United is just a team that is difficult to develop this season, the players who come there look bad. Manchester United not only need a sharp striker but also a strong defender because these two sides are equally weak, as I mentioned before they are the only team in the top 10 with a minus goal difference, even Newcastle who are below them still have 11 goal difference.
Erik Ten Haag will probably be retained by Manchester United in the next few seasons while they continue to try to build their team, it's just that what is quite confusing is that they can look good last season but actually look very real decline this season even though there are not many changes in their squad even with the same coach.

[Godday]

In fact, it's quite easy to see that Chelsea has improved or just wants to perform as usual, namely looking at the winning results, if Chelsea is able to get 5 wins in a row, I'm sure this club is capable of reaching the top 5, but since the start of the season until today, Chelsea has not had such an achievement and we Just look at the upcoming match against Wolves who are right below whether Chelsea is able to get a win or just a draw.
If I fail to get a win, I think Chelsea will definitely fail again.

Chelsea fans should be able to think more realistically. With their current form even thinking about getting fifth place in the league would also be very, very difficult. I think Chelsea has lost hope. It's true that there are still 16 games remaining and anything can happen in the league. But Chelsea have played 22 matches and only got 9 wins. With results like this I don't think Chelsea will suddenly get good results in the remaining matches this season. So I think Chelsea will get at least 7 or 8 more wins and that won't be enough to overcome the points deficit of Aston Villa in fifth.

[tusandii]

Manchester United are so short of players this season that they cannot perform well without the right players. Of course, Manchester United needs a star while the defense is strong, but the attack is not so strong. So it definitely needs a star in the attack department.

Manchester United have 27 players that are more than their city club Manchester City which only has 22 players, and they have quite a lot of new players this season both purchased or free transfers and also loan status, so they are not short of players Manchester United is just a team that is difficult to develop this season, the players who come there look bad. Manchester United not only need a sharp striker but also a strong defender because these two sides are equally weak, as I mentioned before they are the only team in the top 10 with a minus goal difference, even Newcastle who are below them still have 11 goal difference.
Erik Ten Haag will probably be retained by Manchester United in the next few seasons while they continue to try to build their team, it's just that what is quite confusing is that they can look good last season but actually look very real decline this season even though there are not many changes in their squad even with the same coach.

Talking about the number of players that Manchester United has, which is much more than Manchester City, it is true, but even though MC only has fewer players, all the players they have are very high quality, while the players that MU has are not like those that MC has.
I don't judge that MU players are not quality, but in terms of performance, we can judge how all the players that MU have performed, as there has been no improvement in any way and I have the same thought as you. Initially last season they were able to recover but this season looks very bad. there is no improvement whatsoever as it just runs in place.
I know that Erik Ten Hag will indeed be retained at MU because he is a coach who is good at talking so it is possible that MU management will also believe that retaining this coach will provide a good future but in my opinion it is enough time to give Erik Ten Hag a chance and it is time for MU have to look for a new coach compared to maintaining it in the long term but there is no improvement but instead your performance is decreasing.

[QueenVera]

Yet the money spent by chelsea meant nothing. Even some players have become flop. It can be seen from how bad the performance from chelsea is. The club has made no progress compared to the last season. To be fair, it's not as bad as like last season but it was only making a very small progress. Chelsea goes from 11 to the 9.
I would not even call this as a achievement by chelsea. Bringing pochettino to the club has proven to be another blunder from chelsea caused by he is also doing the same thing like what potter did in the past.
It was a shame for todd boehly to fail build chelsea back to the golden times a few years ago. I think that pochettino needs to be fired from the club. He has been showing that how he was totally useless. I meant that if pochettino never able to use correct line up in the important match.
Look at the match when chelsea was facing liverpool. This stupid coach was even putting palmer as a striker which was so crazy. I never thought that if pochettino would be that stupid af.
He doesn't know how to manage the team properly and he keeps try to do more and more experiment to the club. This is so crazy to see that. Pochettino OUTTT

Well Chelsea went to down times when Abrahamovic was forced to sell the London club due to ongoing Russian And Ukraine crisis. And now the decision by the UK board is now haunting the football club. As since Todd’s takeover the team haven’t had a good record of success, rather it’s been from one worry to another and we the fans wonder when things will get better. Great and Huge signings were made during the summer but yet nothing to show for it rather we’ve got those fine players now turning to flop in the Chelsea colour.

 Pochettino too was another bad decision of the board and he’s proving that match after match by his poor decision making. Palmer isn’t a striker, he’s tried this out and didn’t work so why still trying it and against a tea like Liverpool. I think Poch needs to be fired and a more experienced coach who’ll be able to build these young players be hired then we might see Chelsea back in their glory days.

[naira]

After Chelsea's disappointing performance in the English Premier League last season, Mauricio Pochentino was brought to the club to help significantly improve their performance this season as well as making sure that they finish in the top four of the league table at the end of the current season but considering what we've seen so far from the team, I don't think that there's any possibility for the Blues to finish in the top four of the league table.

After their humiliating defeat at Anfield two days ago, it became very clear to the club's fans and management that the best they can do at the moment is to finish in the top six which I also think will be very difficult for the London club

Pochentino apart from forcing himself to manage his own club, is also actually under pressure because the Premier League is a much more difficult competition and will always be a challenge for him to develop. However, with Chelsea condition, which can be said to be building from scratch, don't expect too much for the first season with a transition and composition of players like this. The point is for Blues fans they have to be patient because the club in Boehly hands will find it difficult to develop, after all he doesn't understand football. It would be a different story if it were still held by Abramovich, under whose control Chelsea is very structured and can manage the club well, especially regarding player selection. Currently in 10th place, Chelsea can only finish at least 6th or 8th at the end of the season even if in the future they can show changes for the better but if on the contrary it continues to decline then it does not rule out the possibility of Chelsea finishing 13th or 15th in the standings.

[Kristiyana]

It's match week 23, and we are here again with some exciting fixtures for today.

Feb 3rd Fixtures

Everton VS Tottenham Hotspur - 12:30

Brighton VS Crystal palace - 15:00

Burnley VS Fulham - 15:00

Newscastle VS Luton - 15:00

Sheffield VS Aston Villa - 17:30

Review
Since the English Premier League has become very tough and uncertain to make accurate predictions, I would prefer to make predictions base on the last performance of each teams.
Everton's match against Tottenham is definitely going to be an interesting match knowing how well Everton competes against big teams. But I feel Tottenham might be stealing all 3points considering the current fitness of the team.
With the shocking loss to Luton in just less than a week, de zerbi's side would be looking forward to achieving something from this, but that doesn't mean crystal palace should be underated either, so this might likely end in a draw.
Burnley seems to be a side struggling to attempt any form of impact in the league, which makes Fulham the rightful candidate.
Newcastle will be in action against Luton without Isak. We can't neglect the fact that Luton happens to be a side that knows how to bite bigger teams. Maybe Newcastle might just be winning this base on home advantage.
After lossing to Newcastle earlier this week, Aston villa might just bounce back with this game and get all important 3points.

[bots1]

Manchester United are so short of players this season that they cannot perform well without the right players. Of course, Manchester United needs a star while the defense is strong, but the attack is not so strong. So it definitely needs a star in the attack department.

Indeed, one of the causes of Manchester United's unstable performance this season is due to the large number of injured players, which has forced Erik Ten Hag to reshuffle the composition of players in the defense and midfield which ultimately damaged the team harmony that had been built. However, now several important players have started to return from injury and Manchester United's attack is starting to get stronger again, where when they beat Wolverhampton, Manchester United was able to score 4 goals. Therefore, if this positive trend can continue, then Manchester United will most likely finish in the top four of the EPL.

[uchegod-21]

Manchester United are so short of players this season that they cannot perform well without the right players. Of course, Manchester United needs a star while the defense is strong, but the attack is not so strong. So it definitely needs a star in the attack department.

Indeed, one of the causes of Manchester United's unstable performance this season is due to the large number of injured players, which has forced Erik Ten Hag to reshuffle the composition of players in the defense and midfield which ultimately damaged the team harmony that had been built. However, now several important players have started to return from injury and Manchester United's attack is starting to get stronger again, where when they beat Wolverhampton, Manchester United was able to score 4 goals. Therefore, if this positive trend can continue, then Manchester United will most likely finish in the top four of the EPL.

This is a problem that I saw so many times ago when Manchester United was seriously under performing. Many people saw it but they were unable to acknowledge that it was a cause of the poor performance of Manchester United. There is nothing much a coach can do when his first 11 is unavailable for almost more than half of a season, even when the team does not have a good depth.

In the Manchester United last match, we could see some kind of composure in the midfield because of the return of casemiro. Scoring much goals is not the problem, if the opposing will end up countering such goals by scoring theirs. If the defence is nice, even if the attack does not score much goals, the team will be fine.

[piebeyb]

Manchester United are so short of players this season that they cannot perform well without the right players. Of course, Manchester United needs a star while the defense is strong, but the attack is not so strong. So it definitely needs a star in the attack department.

Indeed, one of the causes of Manchester United's unstable performance this season is due to the large number of injured players, which has forced Erik Ten Hag to reshuffle the composition of players in the defense and midfield which ultimately damaged the team harmony that had been built. However, now several important players have started to return from injury and Manchester United's attack is starting to get stronger again, where when they beat Wolverhampton, Manchester United was able to score 4 goals. Therefore, if this positive trend can continue, then Manchester United will most likely finish in the top four of the EPL.

Yes, it's true that Manchester United did win by scoring 4 goals against Wolves, but don't forget that Manchester also conceded 3 goals, that's not something that needs to be overlooked, it should also be a concern that there is something not good about their goalkeeper, Onana, he can't be expected to be a goalkeeper at Manchester United and also Manchester United's lack of defense which means they conceded 3 goals, that's really not good even though the result is Manchester United winning.

Ten Hag must seriously think about adding new players in the summer, at least it is important to strengthen their back line, including the goalkeeper, because if their front line is good, it won't be good if in the end they concede easily too, I do admit that Manchester United It's slowly recovering a bit and is quite good now, but Ten Hag still can't rotate his players well, so there is a lack of unity on the field which makes the players play very well and are able to finish the match with encouraging results.

[IvugeoEvolutionCoin]

Yesterday in the Premier League match Wolves vs Man United, Man United team won by 4 goals in the match between the two teams. The performance of the Man United team players was very good. The Wolves team did not perform well before halftime. But after the halftime, the Wolves team scored 3 goals. Wolves  If the players of the team can perform well before the halftime, maybe the Wolves team would have won this match. I placed a bet in support of the Wolves team but I could not win the bet.

[TastyChillySauce00]

For Chelsea's target of finishing in the top 4 or 5, I don't think it will ever happen, they don't deserve it, they still have a lot to fix and it's possible that won't be possible this season.

Actually, the statement to say whether it is appropriate or not is not worth pinning down because all clubs deserve to be there, but on the other hand, there is truth in what you say, that it is better to focus on improving yourself for next season, if this season you only finish in the bottom of the top ten, it will not work. disturbing the club's reputation because everyone knows that Chelsea is in difficult times, it's not surprising that Chelsea often lose points in important matches, but from their last five matches they only lost two times, the remaining three wins are positive things that Chelsea has shown in my opinion.

After Chelsea's disappointing performance in the English Premier League last season, Mauricio Pochentino was brought to the club to help significantly improve their performance this season as well as making sure that they finish in the top four of the league table at the end of the current season but considering what we've seen so far from the team, I don't think that there's any possibility for the Blues to finish in the top four of the league table.

After their humiliating defeat at Anfield two days ago, it became very clear to the club's fans and management that the best they can do at the moment is to finish in the top six which I also think will be very difficult for the London club

The appointment of Argentine professional football manager Mauricio Pochettino has not been able to change Chelsea's fortunes. Chelsea is currently in 10th place.  In their last five matches they have won 3 and lost 2. Chelsea's lack of performance of the players is adding more problems of the manager Pochettino's. It is very difficult to imagine a top four in the position they are staying right now. Almost every team has completed 22 matches so far. The team that is in the top 4 of the points table has 43 points and Chelsea's current point is 31. Here it is easy to understand that Chelsea is far behind by a large point gap.

Pochettino has been failed on chelsea. I think that it's useless to keep him much longer in the club while chelsea will able to get a new appoinetment to be a new coach for chelsea. Im concerning the performance from chelsea is not even having good progress. I was seeing chelsea is still running in the same place right now.
I prefer to see him to be sacked by chelsea caused by he was useless coach. It's really bad to keep him in the club much longer. I prefer to see him to be terminated as soon as possible. Chelsea will be impossible in entering the top 4 without get winning streak.
It's caused by the club have been performing so badly even since pochettino was coming to the club. I can't even tolerate pochettino even longer caused by he does zero impact to the club. The way he was coaching the club is also very confusing for me.

[Docnaster]

Manchester United are so short of players this season that they cannot perform well without the right players. Of course, Manchester United needs a star while the defense is strong, but the attack is not so strong. So it definitely needs a star in the attack department.

Indeed, one of the causes of Manchester United's unstable performance this season is due to the large number of injured players, which has forced Erik Ten Hag to reshuffle the composition of players in the defense and midfield which ultimately damaged the team harmony that had been built. However, now several important players have started to return from injury and Manchester United's attack is starting to get stronger again, where when they beat Wolverhampton, Manchester United was able to score 4 goals. Therefore, if this positive trend can continue, then Manchester United will most likely finish in the top four of the EPL.

Undoubtedly, Manchester United players have suffered series of injuries that's kept them sidelined for too long this season and that's what many people have been pointing out to as the cause of the club's poor performance this season.
However, I'm of the opinion that the club could've still achieved more they've achieved so far if the club manager Erik ten Hag had been better with his tactical approaches to games. For instance, Manchester United failed to progress from the group stage of this season's UEFA Champions League competition because of the manager's poor tactical moves in the games they were leading in but still failed to win. They scored four four goals against Wolves in the midweek game they played but still conceded three on that game. That's not how a big team like Manchester United should be built defensively

[ILuckyGuyI]

While having a season with many ups and downs it is nice to see some improvement by Rashford and Hojlund lately. They both made important contributions to their team against Wolves. The games are still going on tough for the Red Devils of course. Because their defending is just horrible... 

When Martinez returned I hoped to see stronger defending. It didn't take Martinez a long time to start performing nicely after a lasting injury. But Varane is still really bad.

Would we see Varane being sent to another team at the end of the season you think?

[Zanab247]

Everton vs Tottenham Hotspur game has started and Tottenham Hotspur has scored the first goal at twenty something minutes to lead the game 0:1, which is a sign that they will still score more goals before the end of the first half and their players are well organized to disgrace Everton in their home today.

Can Everton score a single goal from this game because, Tottenham Hotspur player want to use this game as an example to other teams that they have fully recovered from their injuries to battle for the first or second position in the premier league which they are capable to use this game as an example to beat Everton 0:4.

[X-ray]

Yesterday in the Premier League match Wolves vs Man United, Man United team won by 4 goals in the match between the two teams. The performance of the Man United team players was very good. The Wolves team did not perform well before halftime. But after the halftime, the Wolves team scored 3 goals. Wolves  If the players of the team can perform well before the halftime, maybe the Wolves team would have won this match. I placed a bet in support of the Wolves team but I could not win the bet.

If you were not sure with what you bet then you can take less risky choice like double chance. The match between wolves against united was so hard to predict. I was seeing both of teams are equal at this time. Manchester united was only good on its defensive line but other lines are performing so poorly . United was almost losing if mainoo was not coming as savior for the club.
That's amazing to see that how mainoo has been successfully scoring at the late game through his solo. this is why he has been talked by so many united fans on X. He took the big risk by going to the penalty box alone but he made it.
The match has passed then forget it.

The match between totenham vs everton is still happening right now. Totenham has been scoring another goal through richarlison with his accurate shoot. Totenham is still leading the game right now with two goals against everton. Everton is still having chance to change the situation. The chance for this club to be relegated is very big right now.
Totenham looks very strong even though it must be playing away against everton. Totenham is still controlling the game, and it was also consistently attacking everton. The goal from richarlison was pretty good tough.

Everton is being threatened to be relegated if it will not be collecting more points. This is why everton must win the game against totenham but seeing the statistic makes me feel doubt of totenham will able to win the game against everton.
I think that draw may be possible to happen in this match.

[Oluwa-btc]

Manchester United are so short of players this season that they cannot perform well without the right players. Of course, Manchester United needs a star while the defense is strong, but the attack is not so strong. So it definitely needs a star in the attack department.

Indeed, one of the causes of Manchester United's unstable performance this season is due to the large number of injured players, which has forced Erik Ten Hag to reshuffle the composition of players in the defense and midfield which ultimately damaged the team harmony that had been built. However, now several important players have started to return from injury and Manchester United's attack is starting to get stronger again, where when they beat Wolverhampton, Manchester United was able to score 4 goals. Therefore, if this positive trend can continue, then Manchester United will most likely finish in the top four of the EPL.

This is a problem that I saw so many times ago when Manchester United was seriously under performing. Many people saw it but they were unable to acknowledge that it was a cause of the poor performance of Manchester United. There is nothing much a coach can do when his first 11 is unavailable for almost more than half of a season, even when the team does not have a good depth.

In the Manchester United last match, we could see some kind of composure in the midfield because of the return of casemiro. Scoring much goals is not the problem, if the opposing will end up countering such goals by scoring theirs. If the defence is nice, even if the attack does not score much goals, the team will be fine.

Exactly, they should have at least taken a look back to what Erik Ten Hag did with Manchester United last season and check both his winning rate and also how he got to qualify them for the Champions League Competition and also win them a trophy. These Manchester United fans are too impatient as they forget good things does takes time.

They had a good midfied trio which was what lead to that thriving midfied against Wolverampton during the last game played. I believe they'll do better with how they fought until ninty minutes of the game. Westham United tommorow, it'll be one hard game. Hopefully they bury the game quickly they get a goal or two.

[asriloni]

Manchester United are so short of players this season that they cannot perform well without the right players. Of course, Manchester United needs a star while the defense is strong, but the attack is not so strong. So it definitely needs a star in the attack department.

Indeed, one of the causes of Manchester United's unstable performance this season is due to the large number of injured players, which has forced Erik Ten Hag to reshuffle the composition of players in the defense and midfield which ultimately damaged the team harmony that had been built. However, now several important players have started to return from injury and Manchester United's attack is starting to get stronger again, where when they beat Wolverhampton, Manchester United was able to score 4 goals. Therefore, if this positive trend can continue, then Manchester United will most likely finish in the top four of the EPL.

The positive trend is set to continue for the attacking line, but unfortunately, the defensive line is not experiencing the same success. The defenders consistently perform poorly, and to make matters worse, Onana's performance was even worse than before. Im also questioning myself about what manchester united defenders are doing for 24/7. Do they train to imrpveo their performance or what?Im wondering it caused by manchester united defenders never had good performance and it can be counter easily how many times the defenders of united perform better. This sucks to see united conceded more than 50 goals till this time.

Im guessing that the easiest way to predict the result from united's match will be total over. The weak defensive line has been also making united to perform even worse than before. This is also pressuring onana which is a bad goal keeper to perform even worst. Onana doesn't have good defenders to help him like when he was in intermilan.
He needs to put more effort to block any ball by himself now. Poor onana and this guy is not having good performance in manchester united. My thoughts on this matter are that he should no longer be given an opportunity in the main squad, although it should be noted that Manchester United currently lacks a competent goalkeeper other than him.

[Oluwa-btc]

While having a season with many ups and downs it is nice to see some improvement by Rashford and Hojlund lately. They both made important contributions to their team against Wolves. The games are still going on tough for the Red Devils of course. Because their defending is just horrible... 

When Martinez returned I hoped to see stronger defending. It didn't take Martinez a long time to start performing nicely after a lasting injury. But Varane is still really bad.

Would we see Varane being sent to another team at the end of the season you think?

Rapheal Varane, Harry Maguire and Aaron Wan Bisakka are the possible names that'll be leaving even if I'm not happy Rapheal would be on that list. Tjeya need get a player like him and who's much younger, I'd say De Ligt for Bayern Munich simce he's no longer in a good mood to stay with em anymore.

A great and good player would not take time to settle back into a team. So much confidence from him when you watch him, good passer of the ball and good team player who's been pushing his teammates ahead.
They did do well, No?
Marcus Rashford should learn to pass the ball more for Rasmus Hojlund and Amad Diallo would be more effective on the right win than Antony amd Garnacho. Hopefully he gets a start against West Ham United.