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February 05, 2024, 07:17:44 AM
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It was really quite an exciting match and finally Arsenal was able to get their revenge after a painful 2-0 defeat in the FA Cup, the final score of 3-1 meant that Arsenal could now close the distance from Liverpool and move up one strip above Manchester City who still save two games postponed. , both teams played quite impressively even when the match was almost over, Liverpool's downfall began when Konate was sent off due to the red card he received, after Konate came out it was very visible that Liverpool defense was quite fragile and very easily exploited by the Arsenal players, Trossard was really able to be the difference in that match when he replaced Martinelli, but even so I think replacing Martinelli was a mistake, because Martinelli throughout the match was able to create chaos in Liverpool defense which was quite disciplined and Harvetz should have been the one who deserved to be sent off, who knows what you saw by arteta on harvetz because in my opinion harvetz has not been able to show good game performance and often loses the ball too easily in the match.

It's true as you said that Havertz didn't perform well in that match. But it is possible that Arteta really wants to rest Martinelli and give Trossard playing time. The results of this match have put Liverpool in a difficult situation because they are fighting for the EPL title this season with City. This result also opens up Arsenal's chances of winning the title again because they are only 2 and 3 points different from Liverpool and City, if City is able to complete their task well in the two saved matches.

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February 05, 2024, 09:58:10 AM
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Which one will it be? League trophy from the Premier League or Europa League. Are you not aware that Klopp won't stay till the end of the season? Klopp is going to leave Liverpool before the season's conclusion. Even so, he would really like to help Liverpool win a few games before he does. However, the main issue he is now dealing with is Salah and Nunez are injured. 

Where did you see that Klopp said he wouldn't even stay until the end of this season?

He said he would leave by the end of this season, not before that time mate.  Smiley  When it comes to which one of these tournaments, who knows maybe both of them. Technically they have a chance to win the titles of both tournaments with Klopp now. I wouldn't say no to seeing Liverpool doing a huge work like this truthfully. But even one of them would be a nice gift to the team by Klopp before his leaving.  Smiley

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February 05, 2024, 10:21:09 AM
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Meanwhile, Arsenal still has its mainstays such as Saka and Martinelli whose performance is much better.
If Liverpool can't maintain their points in the next few matches, I'm sure they will be moved by MC or Arsenal.

A bad result for Liverpool. In fact, I was hoping for a draw for this match.  2 Liverpool player mistakes made Arsenal look more effective even though I saw Liverpool slightly superior in possession. Alisson and Van Dijk made fatal mistakes resulting in Arsenal goals. Of course this defeat makes Liverpool lose, the distance of points is getting thinner. Two points is not much, if Liverpool make mistakes then their position will not be safe. This moment should have been used by Liverpool to make the distance wider, but they failed.

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February 05, 2024, 11:27:28 AM
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Meanwhile, Arsenal still has its mainstays such as Saka and Martinelli whose performance is much better.
If Liverpool can't maintain their points in the next few matches, I'm sure they will be moved by MC or Arsenal.

A bad result for Liverpool. In fact, I was hoping for a draw for this match.  2 Liverpool player mistakes made Arsenal look more effective even though I saw Liverpool slightly superior in possession. Alisson and Van Dijk made fatal mistakes resulting in Arsenal goals. Of course this defeat makes Liverpool lose, the distance of points is getting thinner. Two points is not much, if Liverpool make mistakes then their position will not be safe. This moment should have been used by Liverpool to make the distance wider, but they failed.
The Arsenal team is technically very high level. Odegard, Ben White, Martinelli, Jorginho, Havertz, Saliba all have great skills, just like City, their defence is very involved in the attack. Even Raya plays because he has a better foot than Ramsdale. But instead of tactical play in the match, Arsenal was able to prevail by the big mistakes of the liverpool defence. Arteta analysed liverpool well, they played most of the match without pressing in the third zone, they gave the ball to liverpool but gave very few positions.

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February 05, 2024, 11:42:15 AM
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It was really quite an exciting match and finally Arsenal was able to get their revenge after a painful 2-0 defeat in the FA Cup, the final score of 3-1 meant that Arsenal could now close the distance from Liverpool and move up one strip above Manchester City who still save two games postponed. , both teams played quite impressively even when the match was almost over, Liverpool's downfall began when Konate was sent off due to the red card he received, after Konate came out it was very visible that Liverpool defense was quite fragile and very easily exploited by the Arsenal players, Trossard was really able to be the difference in that match when he replaced Martinelli, but even so I think replacing Martinelli was a mistake, because Martinelli throughout the match was able to create chaos in Liverpool defense which was quite disciplined and Harvetz should have been the one who deserved to be sent off, who knows what you saw by arteta on harvetz because in my opinion harvetz has not been able to show good game performance and often loses the ball too easily in the match.
Well this match had all the fun and excitements we all wished for and it also depicited the competitive nature of the EPL. Yes it ended 3-1 in facour of the home side, Arsenal as they have now proven to be one top side and also gotten close to Liverpool who’re still on top. This win for Arsenal means the title race is now quite open and Arsenal are actively involved though they’re a point away from City, but City have about 2 games in hand. This I think will be one big worry for Jurgen Klopp especially going forward especially as he’s without Star man, Salah and TAA haven’t gotten back his full potential.

 Kudos to Arsenal who outplayed Liverpool yesterday and showed every characteristics of a fighting team, they were determined at every point of the game and were hungry. The sub from Arteta was timely and yes, he left Havertz there to cause some worries for Konate who got his 2 yellow cards from different fouls on Kai. Trossard was an essential factor in this win and he was the super sub Arteta had in this game and yea he got the goal. This alone shows us how competitive this league is.

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February 05, 2024, 01:25:46 PM
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Man United won, I'm not saying they were good but I've seen onana from the moment he came he was bad. Onana has conceded 50 goals. Even Man United is currently the second most conceded team after Sheffield United. Granted he can build an attack but the response is quite poor. I'm sure with so many games left Onana will be difficult to make a Cleanshet if his performance is not improved. Onana's statistics are even worse than De Gea, who conceded 47 goals in a season.

Too much have been said bout Andrea Onana and his blunders, Have you seen the recent blunders from Allison Becker yesterday? Bank on that also. As for Andrea Onana, I feel sad though but he should step up his game for Manchester United he should make sure to give his best. Though I'll blame his struggles on the poor and weak defenders since the start of the new season.

David De Gea is now of the past and Manchester United fans should also try to accept it. Andrea Onana can get better but they'll have to support Andre Onana henceforth with full confidence.
Top challenge against Aston Villa, they'll definitely drop some players due to the European Europa Conference League Competition.

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February 05, 2024, 02:36:00 PM
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Meanwhile, Arsenal still has its mainstays such as Saka and Martinelli whose performance is much better.
If Liverpool can't maintain their points in the next few matches, I'm sure they will be moved by MC or Arsenal.

A bad result for Liverpool. In fact, I was hoping for a draw for this match.  2 Liverpool player mistakes made Arsenal look more effective even though I saw Liverpool slightly superior in possession. Alisson and Van Dijk made fatal mistakes resulting in Arsenal goals. Of course this defeat makes Liverpool lose, the distance of points is getting thinner. Two points is not much, if Liverpool make mistakes then their position will not be safe. This moment should have been used by Liverpool to make the distance wider, but they failed.
In fact, Liverpool's game was optimal and several times threatened Arsenal's defense. However, fatal mistakes made by Alisson and Van Dijk changed everything. Not to mention, when Liverpool wanted to catch up, they lost one player because of the red card received by Ibrahima Konaté. Now the Premier League competition is getting tighter because the points gap between Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester City is very thin. Not to mention, Manchester City still has two matches left to play. If Manchester City can win these two matches, Manchester City will be at the top of the standings with 1 point ahead of Liverpool.

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February 05, 2024, 04:52:37 PM
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Man United won, I'm not saying they were good but I've seen onana from the moment he came he was bad. Onana has conceded 50 goals. Even Man United is currently the second most conceded team after Sheffield United. Granted he can build an attack but the response is quite poor. I'm sure with so many games left Onana will be difficult to make a Cleanshet if his performance is not improved. Onana's statistics are even worse than De Gea, who conceded 47 goals in a season.

Onana sometimes was lucky enough when the defensive line of mu was performing so perfect like in the match against westham. Even though manchester united was only making 5 goal attempts but three of these have been converted into the goals. I think that onana has been lowering his standard since he was leaving from intermilan.
No progress, no improvement and no more patience for him. Some people keep delusional waiting for him to perform better but it's never happening. Im still also feeling curious how can people be very patience waiting him to make the progress while he never deliver?

The only best solution for this to kick him out from the club. Onana was just degrading the level of club. he was actually useless goal keeper of manchester united. I strong support MU to put him on the bench then bought the new goal keeper to come in.
Onana was not even making individual improvement. I don't see it till now. There's no need to be patience anymore to trust his process caused by he will never ever make it happen.

Mu can be better once onana will be only sitting on the bench. MU needs someone who can perform like vicario on totenham. At least someone who have fast response to catch the ball.

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In fact, Liverpool's game was optimal and several times threatened Arsenal's defense. However, fatal mistakes made by Alisson and Van Dijk changed everything. Not to mention, when Liverpool wanted to catch up, they lost one player because of the red card received by Ibrahima Konaté. Now the Premier League competition is getting tighter because the points gap between Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester City is very thin. Not to mention, Manchester City still has two matches left to play. If Manchester City can win these two matches, Manchester City will be at the top of the standings with 1 point ahead of Liverpool.
The game seemed so tactical with both teams played with careful and slow pace at building attacks. The game took a turn due to unfortunate mistakes by Alisson and Van Dijk, which significantly impacted the outcome. The situation worsened for Liverpool when Ibrahima Konaté received a red card, putting them at a numerical disadvantage. The Premier League competition is undeniably becoming tighter, especially with the thin points gap between Liverpool, Arsenal, and Manchester City.

The fact that Manchester City still has two matches left to play adds an additional layer of suspense. If they manage to secure victories in these two matches, they could potentially move to the top of the standings, just one point ahead of Liverpool. The unpredictability of football and the competitive nature of the Premier League make every match crucial for the title race. Fans can expect an intense battle as the season progresses, with the potential for frequent changes in the standings.

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Tomorrow will start Brentford vs Man City match between two teams. In this match I am thinking to bet against Brentford team. I hope Man City team can perform well in this match. Man City team has performed very well in the previous matches so in this match Man  City may perform well. Man City team is now at number 3 in the points table.

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February 05, 2024, 05:47:40 PM
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Tomorrow will start Brentford vs Man City match between two teams. In this match I am thinking to bet against Brentford team. I hope Man City team can perform well in this match. Man City team has performed very well in the previous matches so in this match Man  City may perform well. Man City team is now at number 3 in the points table.
Nothing will stop me not to watch this game to see how many goals Manchester city will achieve from Brentford because, I don't think Brentford will have the strength to withstand Manchester city in this game today but anything can happen that will make the game to change for the favour of Brentford or Manchester city. Brentford is a weak team and it will give Manchester city the opportunity to win 3 points from this game without using too much strength to fight Brentford because, even though the game will going to change, it will be for the favour of Manchester city to remain in 3rd position.

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In fact, Liverpool's game was optimal and several times threatened Arsenal's defense. However, fatal mistakes made by Alisson and Van Dijk changed everything. Not to mention, when Liverpool wanted to catch up, they lost one player because of the red card received by Ibrahima Konaté. Now the Premier League competition is getting tighter because the points gap between Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester City is very thin. Not to mention, Manchester City still has two matches left to play. If Manchester City can win these two matches, Manchester City will be at the top of the standings with 1 point ahead of Liverpool.
The game seemed so tactical with both teams played with careful and slow pace at building attacks. The game took a turn due to unfortunate mistakes by Alisson and Van Dijk, which significantly impacted the outcome. The situation worsened for Liverpool when Ibrahima Konaté received a red card, putting them at a numerical disadvantage. The Premier League competition is undeniably becoming tighter, especially with the thin points gap between Liverpool, Arsenal, and Manchester City.

The fact that Manchester City still has two matches left to play adds an additional layer of suspense. If they manage to secure victories in these two matches, they could potentially move to the top of the standings, just one point ahead of Liverpool. The unpredictability of football and the competitive nature of the Premier League make every match crucial for the title race. Fans can expect an intense battle as the season progresses, with the potential for frequent changes in the standings.

The situation has got very interesting for sure. If we talk about goalkeepers first, I will have to say that a goalkeeper can make mistakes under pressure. And he is also the most important player for a team. It is easy to replace almost any other player unless they are Lionel Messi or Christiano Ronaldo. But it is very hard to replace a goalkeeper. Of course, we can understand that by watching the goalkeeper of  Manchester United.

No, Manchester City having two matches left that's definitely made it interesting. What if Liverpool and Arsenal cannot be very consistent? It will be a matter of time before Manchester City gets back on the first position.

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February 05, 2024, 07:00:26 PM
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Tomorrow will start Brentford vs Man City match between two teams. In this match I am thinking to bet against Brentford team. I hope Man City team can perform well in this match. Man City team has performed very well in the previous matches so in this match Man  City may perform well. Man City team is now at number 3 in the points table.

Betting on Manchester City is a wise choice right now considering that Arsenal managed to beat Liverpool yesterday. Manchester City will be in second place if they manage to beat Brentford because their GD will be greater than Arsenal. Apart from that another consideration is that they have a 2 game deficit, which means they should be in first place if they manage to wipe out their deficit.

Bookies themselves give @1.36 for Manchester City to win in the 1X2 bet, while for handicap bookies give @1.93 for Manchester City -1.5. I don't think it's too worrying because I'm sure Manchester City will do that.

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February 05, 2024, 07:01:50 PM
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Fully expect Man City to take advantage of Liverpool’s slip up yesterday and destroy Brentford tonight. This is the time of every season under Pep where they rattle off 10+ consecutive victories to really swing the title pendulum in their favour.

I’m disappointed in Liverpool yesterday but we hadn’t lost in the league since September and Salah was out. We will regroup and put Burnley to the sword on Saturday.

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Fully expect Man City to take advantage of Liverpool’s slip up yesterday and destroy Brentford tonight. This is the time of every season under Pep where they rattle off 10+ consecutive victories to really swing the title pendulum in their favour.

I’m disappointed in Liverpool yesterday but we hadn’t lost in the league since September and Salah was out. We will regroup and put Burnley to the sword on Saturday.
This will definitely be interesting because currently Manchester City are still 5 points behind Liverpool but with the advantage they have where they currently still have 2 matches (including today's match) makes Manchester City have a positive thing because to catch up with Liverpool they only have to maximize these 2 matches well so that their situation in the standings can compete again in the race for the EPL trophy.
Liverpool's defeat yesterday became a blessing in itself in this case because after all, with Liverpool's defeat apart from Arsenal who managed to approach Manchester City also has a great chance to continue to compete in the race for the trophy this season.

Facing Brentford in 1 hour they already look very favorite even though we know that Brentford sometimes always gives extraordinary surprises but still if we talk about conditions and advantages to date Manchester City is an undisputed favorite even though this is an away match for them.
Currently, with the arrival of several players such as KDB and Doku in Manchester City's midfield, their breakout power is getting stronger. In addition, it is likely that Haaland has also prepared in this regard and allows with a complete squad I think there is no doubt for 3 points in today's match.

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In fact, Liverpool's game was optimal and several times threatened Arsenal's defence. However, fatal mistakes made by Alisson and Van Dijk changed everything. Not to mention, when Liverpool wanted to catch up, they lost one player because of the red card received by Ibrahima Konaté. Now the Premier League competition is getting tighter because the points gap between Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester City is very thin. Not to mention, Manchester City still has two matches left to play. If Manchester City can win these two matches, Manchester City will be at the top of the standings with 1 point ahead of Liverpool.

The Liverpool team that played against Arsenal was a total shadow of what they used to be. The defence was just too sloppy that they failed to check the Arsenal defence. The first goal by Saka was a rebound which means the Liverpool defense failed to clear the ball after a good save from Alisson. The second goal by Martinelli was because of a lack of communication between Van Dijk and Allison and the last goal by Trossard happened because the defence was not proactive in stopping the fast runs from Trossard. Liverpool has about three defenders that failed to challenge the striker which gave him the chance to strike.

Jürgen Klopp has to work on his players if he wants to have a good departure gift at the end of the season. Maybe his announcement that he would be leaving the club at the end of the season has negatively affected the morale of the players.

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February 05, 2024, 07:33:48 PM
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Tomorrow will start Brentford vs Man City match between two teams. In this match I am thinking to bet against Brentford team. I hope Man City team can perform well in this match. Man City team has performed very well in the previous matches so in this match Man  City may perform well. Man City team is now at number 3 in the points table.
The match will soon be starting. Manchester City are in a position where they are not supposed to lose any matches currently. They will be playing against Brentford, and they will want to do everything possible to win the match. As we can see, Brentford is not really a strong club, and their performance is not really good this season, so they shouldn’t give Manchester City a difficult time in the match.

I’m disappointed in Liverpool yesterday but we hadn’t lost in the league since September and Salah was out. We will regroup and put Burnley to the sword on Saturday.
The outcome of yesterday’s match was surprising. I thought the match was going to be tough, but I was surprised that Arsenal was able to score three goals in the match. Liverpool's next match will be against Burnley. I don’t even think Burnley has any chances in the match, they will do everything possible to comfortably win the match.

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February 05, 2024, 09:46:54 PM
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Tomorrow will start Brentford vs Man City match between two teams. In this match I am thinking to bet against Brentford team. I hope Man City team can perform well in this match. Man City team has performed very well in the previous matches so in this match Man  City may perform well. Man City team is now at number 3 in the points table.
The match will soon be starting. Manchester City are in a position where they are not supposed to lose any matches currently. They will be playing against Brentford, and they will want to do everything possible to win the match. As we can see, Brentford is not really a strong club, and their performance is not really good this season, so they shouldn’t give Manchester City a difficult time in the match.

Manchester City went on a rampage in this second half after the first half they were quite troubled to face Brentford with their total defense scheme and even could only score a goal back in stoppage time but for the second half it seems they don't want to do the same.
Pep is increasingly aggressively giving instructions for his players to be more offensive and that makes Brentford's defense which is actually quite good must experience obstacles where they are troubled in anticipating the wave of attacks that continue to be launched by Manchester City players.
Haaland's movement was a little hampered because he was tightly guarded but instead it became a blessing because other players became a little loose in terms of guarding and Foden really gave his best performance in this match.
The hat trick he scored was perfect and I think this was an absolute victory for Manchester City and a very good comeback.
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The Arsenal team is technically very high level. Odegard, Ben White, Martinelli, Jorginho, Havertz, Saliba all have great skills, just like City, their defence is very involved in the attack. Even Raya plays because he has a better foot than Ramsdale. But instead of tactical play in the match, Arsenal was able to prevail by the big mistakes of the liverpool defence. Arteta analysed liverpool well, they played most of the match without pressing in the third zone, they gave the ball to liverpool but gave very few positions.
It seemed like Arsenal was out of breath before Mancity and Liverpool in the race to win the championship. But they played a very good match against a formidable opponent, Liverpool, directly dealing a strong blow to Liverpool's position. It can be said that the turning point in the match from the mistake of Van Dijk and goalkeeper Alisson Becker helped Arsenal advance. Being behind forced Liverpool to raise their squad to find an equalizer, thus creating more conditions for Arsenal to deploy their sharp counter-attack , and the third goal came as an inevitable thing, Becker continued to get caught error when closing the corner poorly.
Now, the advantage is somewhat in favor of Mancity as they still have a match to play. If they win, they will climb to 2nd place, belong with Arsenal losing 2 points to Liverpool. This year's race is extremely attractive with a continuous rotation of the leading position between Liverpool, Arsenal and Mancity.

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February 06, 2024, 02:21:59 AM
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Tomorrow will start Brentford vs Man City match between two teams. In this match I am thinking to bet against Brentford team. I hope Man City team can perform well in this match. Man City team has performed very well in the previous matches so in this match Man  City may perform well. Man City team is now at number 3 in the points table.

The match has ended, manchester city got easy win against brentford. Even though brentford was leading the game but it's not enough for brentford to beat manchester city. Foden was scoring three goals for city which was so amazing to see that. I do like how brentford was doing so hard in defending from manchester city.
The king is back right now. Im sure city will be winning EPL again this season. The gameplay of manchester city is so crazy with haaland and de bruyne in the squad. City had so many greate attackers. It was making its opponent scared. Liverpool and arsenal must be careful caused by manchester city is going back again to lead the competition. Im feeling so confidence to see manchester city to perform better than before. I think that manchester city was the strongest team right now. Im valuing this team in higher tier compared to the liverpool and arsenal.
Im sure that if city will be taking the EPL trophy again this season. The comeback of haaland and de bruyne was also making me feel better with it. City may be getting at least two trophies this season. Im feeling confidence caused by de bruyne and haaland were there.
No reason to put city as unfavored club to win the competition this season.

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