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September 06, 2024, 09:59:17 AM
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Chelsea not doing great is not really a shock, they keep on getting players and at this point they are making a huge mistake. They have 40+ players on their list, that makes no sense and if they get rid of half of them, the money they can raise from that would be enough to purchase Mbappe and Haaland together, it makes no sense to spend this much money on mostly players that are not good.

Let's see how they will do, but when you consider the amount of money they spent, and then you look at their roster on a game day, and the eleven players they have look basically similar to whoever they are facing. When in reality they should be a lot better if they spend this much, and for the past two years or so they have been just getting whoever they want, that's a bad decision.
It is not surprising to everyone with Chelsea's performance in the last few seasons until now, they have been inconsistent and I agree with you about wasting money just for players they shouldn't buy, not only Chelsea, Man United is the same as Chelsea even though they are considered a rich club, spending that much money is not a big deal for them, but on the other hand they are not aware that this will end in their financial crisis in the future, if they continue to buy players who are not useful for the club's growth then a crisis will hit Chelsea, of course there must be a change in the problem of recruiting players in choosing players who are truly useful for the team and can bring change to Chelsea's game, I hope Chelsea is aware of this condition in every season experiencing a significant decline.

when a squad spends the likes of over 1 billion in the span of two years, you expect their first eleven to be really really good, where the players are so good that they can be considered as stars. Chelsea owners did spend a lot of money but the spending was not really well-thought. A lot of these recruitments are seen as future investments, who can be sold for higher prices later on. But I don't think that's how football really works.

If Todd Boehly was more success oriented, I think he would try to buy a few star players, who will make the starting XI in every week and are also proven in the Premier League. Coming to Chelsea could be a delight for a lot of players, as this gets them more wages, a spot in the top 6 clubs in the league is definitely something to be proud of. It's also not like going to Saudi Arabia, which ensures they don't get a backlash.

Chelsea should have gone for more players like Pedro Neto, who are proven in the Premier League, who can start games and can ensure wins, and their buying of worse players does not add much value in the current context. I hope they make better choices soon.

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September 06, 2024, 11:00:53 AM
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It is good to hear Palmer isn't going to be a part of the Conference League main stage. It isn't the Champions League in the end. Why would you risk your best player by far, right?  Smiley

They need him much more than the rest of the players. He shouldn't get injured or too exhausted in a less important match there. He should always be ready to contribute in the Premier League instead. He has already started with 1 goal and 4 assists in 3 matches. He is a magician.  Grin  But it is sad to see Chelsea still being consistent while he is trying his best. It would just make things easier for Palmer to leave earlier for trophies.
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September 06, 2024, 04:06:11 PM
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Liverpool is still good, no doubt, and even after changing their coach, they still keep their consistency. There is nothing different with the way they perform with the former coach; furthermore, let's see if they will be able to keep their consistency till the end of the season; they just start the season with good performances, so I’m expecting Liverpool to make things possible for themselves. I can’t choose Liverpool because my favourite club is there too, and I really want them to win the Champions this season.

Lastly, we should not give Liverpool higher chances of winning the title. The season just started; we have not gone anywhere. We should calm down for them to see what they will do.

There is no doubt about the performance of this team, for me Liveprool is on the right track, although the truth is I also think the same, we should not get ahead of events and we cannot make predictions that we could regret later, however, the level that I see in the PL any team can become champion, even Chelsea if they start doing things right, personally I think that City has a lot of level and enough to win the PL again, but in the same way we should wait to see how things turn out, it's good to see it that way, with respect to Liverpool I have a lot of faith in them too.


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The first international break of the season is upon us with Liverpool having the perfect start under new head coach Arne Slot. The Reds have won all three of their Premier League games under the Dutchman, including a 3-0 away win over rivals Manchester United last weekend.

The two week break has seen a big chunk of Slot's squad go off on international duty, but it also gives the boss a chance to work with those who have stayed behind. That includes new signing Federico Chiesa, who has not joined up with the Italy squad after his late transfer to Liverpool.

Source:https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/liverpool-transfer-decision-revealed-arne-29878466

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September 06, 2024, 04:53:31 PM
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In my opinion, Liverpool is almost the same as last season, they are still a strong team because the attack process is almost the same as Klopp's game, only Slot has slightly improved the team's defense and that was Liverpool's weakness last season.

Since the beginning, Liverpool management has been looking for a replacement for Klopp whose playing style is as similar as possible to Klopp's game so that the transition of changing coaches is not too difficult for the game and so far Arne Slot has succeeded in coaching Liverpool.

What you said is true. It is still too early to say that Liverpool will be consistent until the end of the season considering the very tight match schedule this season. Fatigue and injury problems could affect Liverpool's performance. So to overcome this, Liverpool still needs 2-3 players in the midfield and back for squad depth. the performance of players like Ryan Gravenberch so far has certainly been a surprise and on the other hand it is something to be afraid of if later he is injured/accumulates cards, because there is no equivalent cover in the existing squad. So Arne Slot has to buy a few more players to back up the core players.

Liverpool is still good, no doubt, and even after changing their coach, they still keep their consistency. There is nothing different with the way they perform with the former coach; furthermore, let's see if they will be able to keep their consistency till the end of the season; they just start the season with good performances, so I’m expecting Liverpool to make things possible for themselves. I can’t choose Liverpool because my favourite club is there too, and I really want them to win the Champions this season.

Lastly, we should not give Liverpool higher chances of winning the title. The season just started; we have not gone anywhere. We should calm down for them to see what they will do.

I think you're deleting people's quotes incorrectly, those are not my words but @Mame89's, take a look at the people you're quoting and correct your post in this comment.

Regarding the championship in the champions league of course they will pursue it, but the competition now is still quite difficult where Man City and Real Madrid will not let the competition run easily in the champions league, they are always the favorite winners in that league.
The situation at Man City now is also very good and Haaland is giving his performance back and it will affect many more teams who are ambitious to pass them.

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September 06, 2024, 05:13:21 PM
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Liverpool are currently the only team that haven't conceded a single goal in the league. That's impressive!  Smiley  Scoring 7 goals at the same time is also great. It is early in the season but they might create some hype if they go on like this.

The only teams without point loss after 3 weeks are Liverpool and Manchester City now. If I'm not wrong the first game between these two teams in the league is on November 30. There is a really long time until then. After parting ways with Klopp and signing Arne Slot, people are wondering what Liverpool will do. I can't imagine how much he would be loved if Liverpool make it to the league title in his first year already.  Grin

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September 06, 2024, 05:36:30 PM
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Liverpool are currently the only team that haven't conceded a single goal in the league. That's impressive!  Smiley  Scoring 7 goals at the same time is also great. It is early in the season but they might create some hype if they go on like this.

The only teams without point loss after 3 weeks are Liverpool and Manchester City now. If I'm not wrong the first game between these two teams in the league is on November 30. There is a really long time until then. After parting ways with Klopp and signing Arne Slot, people are wondering what Liverpool will do. I can't imagine how much he would be loved if Liverpool make it to the league title in his first year already.  Grin
Lol, impressive thought and your thought might be right but don’t you think the season is too fresh to predict besides Brighton and Arsenal is at the corner watching. I still wonder how Brighton managed to come with early speed and energy I hope they mention same energy all through.
I never expected much from Arne Slot also like it’s a new season and Liverpool with a new coach but still doing perfect is impressive, seeing how Arne Slot lead the team shows he’s ready for the title let’s watch out.
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September 06, 2024, 05:48:08 PM
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Liverpool are currently the only team that haven't conceded a single goal in the league. That's impressive!  Smiley  Scoring 7 goals at the same time is also great. It is early in the season but they might create some hype if they go on like this.

The only teams without point loss after 3 weeks are Liverpool and Manchester City now. If I'm not wrong the first game between these two teams in the league is on November 30. There is a really long time until then. After parting ways with Klopp and signing Arne Slot, people are wondering what Liverpool will do. I can't imagine how much he would be loved if Liverpool make it to the league title in his first year already.  Grin


Lol, impressive thought and your thought might be right but don’t you think the season is too fresh to predict besides Brighton and Arsenal is at the corner watching. I still wonder how Brighton managed to come with early speed and energy I hope they mention same energy all through.


If you're wondering about how Brighton managed to come with early speed and energy. It's all started when they let Maresca go to Chelsea. They then recruited Fabian Hurzeler as their new coach. And he is being nominated as the top manager of this month.



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Liverpool are currently the only team that haven't conceded a single goal in the league. That's impressive!  Smiley  Scoring 7 goals at the same time is also great. It is early in the season but they might create some hype if they go on like this.

The only teams without point loss after 3 weeks are Liverpool and Manchester City now. If I'm not wrong the first game between these two teams in the league is on November 30. There is a really long time until then. After parting ways with Klopp and signing Arne Slot, people are wondering what Liverpool will do. I can't imagine how much he would be loved if Liverpool make it to the league title in his first year already.  Grin
Liverpool and Manchester City have been the best in the first 3 weeks of the season, they showed impressive matches, I saw that and you can't say it wrong.

The question for many people is whether Liverpool will be very consistent and show very good performance in Arne Slot, because he is the Liverpool coach now and will compete with his idol, Guardiola as the conqueror of the English premier league in the last few seasons, this will be very interesting, it looks like the English premier league will not be able to escape Manchester City, Arsenal and Liverpool for this kind of potential, although Arsenal did not go well against Brighton yesterday with a draw.

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Arne Slot definitely has a lot of ground to cover, he is doing good so far but he is a new manager for a team that has been good for many years now, and while a top four finish would be fine for many people, I think the start made people a little bit more hyped, so there is a chance that people may want to see even better results.

Honestly speaking, if Liverpool ended this season as the champions of premier league, would we be shocked? I wouldn't be shocked, I am not expecting that to happen at all, but I am also not considering this as impossible neither. Brighton has been good too, but I would say it is near impossible for Brighton to win the league, it is not like that for Liverpool, it's unlikely but it's on the table as a possibility.

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September 06, 2024, 06:58:52 PM
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Liverpool are currently the only team that haven't conceded a single goal in the league. That's impressive!  Smiley  Scoring 7 goals at the same time is also great. It is early in the season but they might create some hype if they go on like this.

The only teams without point loss after 3 weeks are Liverpool and Manchester City now. If I'm not wrong the first game between these two teams in the league is on November 30. There is a really long time until then. After parting ways with Klopp and signing Arne Slot, people are wondering what Liverpool will do. I can't imagine how much he would be loved if Liverpool make it to the league title in his first year already.  Grin
If Liverpool has gone three matches this season without conceding a goal, it is actually a big plus to Arne Slot. I haven't taken note of that statistic, I only know that they are unbeating so far with Manchester City. Before the 30th of November when Manchester City will meet Liverpool, either of Manchester City or Liverpool or even both must have lost some points. Even if they are unable to lose three points, they will at least lose two points. The English Premier League of this season is not that lose, it is somewhat competitive that anything can happen to any of these big clubs at any time.

Not withstanding, I am more confident in Manchester City and Arsenal than in Liverpool. Why do I say so, it is because both Pep Guardiola and Mikel Arteta have been in English Premier League and have known how to manage their players. If small injury crisis rock Liverpool, I am not very sure that Arne Slot can handle it effectively.

 
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If you're wondering about how Brighton managed to come with early speed and energy. It's all started when they let Maresca go to Chelsea. They then recruited Fabian Hurzeler as their new coach. And he is being nominated as the top manager of this month.
Fabian Hurzeler is one of the important factors behind Brighton's good performance at the start of this season. This team has played with great enthusiasm in its last three matches, but this good performance could still decline if several players in the current main squad suffer injuries. I don't know Fabian Hurzeler that well, but I admit he has played an important role in Brighton's revival this season.

If Brighton can be this consistent throughout the season, then I think they can compete to win a ticket to the Champions League next season. Brighton ended last season in 11th position with 12 wins, 12 draws and 14 losses, but they could potentially be in the European zone this season and claim a slot there at the end of the season.

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September 07, 2024, 09:42:23 AM
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Liverpool are currently the only team that haven't conceded a single goal in the league. That's impressive!  Smiley  Scoring 7 goals at the same time is also great. It is early in the season but they might create some hype if they go on like this.

The only teams without point loss after 3 weeks are Liverpool and Manchester City now. If I'm not wrong the first game between these two teams in the league is on November 30. There is a really long time until then. After parting ways with Klopp and signing Arne Slot, people are wondering what Liverpool will do. I can't imagine how much he would be loved if Liverpool make it to the league title in his first year already.  Grin
Liverpool have played three matches so far in the English Premier League where they have won all the matches and they have not conceded any goals so far. It has been a great start for Liverpool in the Premier League. However, it is the very beginning of the season and there is still a long way to go so Liverpool must be consistent going forward. They need to ensure that their performance does not deteriorate towards the middle of the season or towards the end of the season. 

A new manager has taken over at Liverpool so all these achievements will no doubt compliment his team management skills. If the current manager can give the right direction to the team till the end of the season, then this team will definitely compete with Manchester City or Arsenal in the Premier League.

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September 07, 2024, 10:03:57 AM
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Liverpool are currently the only team that haven't conceded a single goal in the league. That's impressive!  Smiley  Scoring 7 goals at the same time is also great. It is early in the season but they might create some hype if they go on like this.

The only teams without point loss after 3 weeks are Liverpool and Manchester City now. If I'm not wrong the first game between these two teams in the league is on November 30. There is a really long time until then. After parting ways with Klopp and signing Arne Slot, people are wondering what Liverpool will do. I can't imagine how much he would be loved if Liverpool make it to the league title in his first year already.  Grin
Liverpool and Manchester City have been the best in the first 3 weeks of the season, they showed impressive matches, I saw that and you can't say it wrong.

The question for many people is whether Liverpool will be very consistent and show very good performance in Arne Slot, because he is the Liverpool coach now and will compete with his idol, Guardiola as the conqueror of the English premier league in the last few seasons, this will be very interesting, it looks like the English premier league will not be able to escape Manchester City, Arsenal and Liverpool for this kind of potential, although Arsenal did not go well against Brighton yesterday with a draw.

The performance of Liverpool is much better when compared to that of Manchester City after three matches though both teams won their three matches but Liverpool team is yet to conceed a goal which makes them stand out after three matches.

Liverpool has started well so far but whether or not they will remain consistent is still unknown because their are so many matches awaiting them and one can consider them as being consistent if they are able to win every game they play and how well they perform in the games. The Liverpool coach Arne Slot is already aware of the challenges he is going to encounter since he is seeing Manchester City and their coach which is familiar to him so it is his responsibility to position him team in a level where they can challenge Pep Guardiola and his team to win the league ahead of them even as he will have Arsenal to battle with after Manchester City.

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Liverpool are currently the only team that haven't conceded a single goal in the league. That's impressive!  Smiley  Scoring 7 goals at the same time is also great. It is early in the season but they might create some hype if they go on like this.

The only teams without point loss after 3 weeks are Liverpool and Manchester City now. If I'm not wrong the first game between these two teams in the league is on November 30. There is a really long time until then. After parting ways with Klopp and signing Arne Slot, people are wondering what Liverpool will do. I can't imagine how much he would be loved if Liverpool make it to the league title in his first year already.  Grin
Liverpool have played three matches so far in the English Premier League where they have won all the matches and they have not conceded any goals so far. It has been a great start for Liverpool in the Premier League. However, it is the very beginning of the season and there is still a long way to go so Liverpool must be consistent going forward. They need to ensure that their performance does not deteriorate towards the middle of the season or towards the end of the season. 

A new manager has taken over at Liverpool so all these achievements will no doubt compliment his team management skills. If the current manager can give the right direction to the team till the end of the season, then this team will definitely compete with Manchester City or Arsenal in the Premier League.

Liverpool has been a strong team from the start because Jurgen Klopp has left a solid legacy and it cannot be denied that whatever it is, Klopp has contributed there. But that doesn't mean Arne Slot didn't play a part because it's not easy to carry on the legacy of a great coach and if he rushes then it could end badly. In time he will be successful in his own way because he is indeed a potential coach, but it will take time and process.

Liverpool is in a good run of form and it was a great start. Now the question is, can they continue to be consistent throughout the season or will they repeat the mistakes of the previous two seasons?

 
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Arne Slot definitely has a lot of ground to cover, he is doing good so far but he is a new manager for a team that has been good for many years now, and while a top four finish would be fine for many people, I think the start made people a little bit more hyped, so there is a chance that people may want to see even better results.

Honestly speaking, if Liverpool ended this season as the champions of premier league, would we be shocked? I wouldn't be shocked, I am not expecting that to happen at all, but I am also not considering this as impossible neither. Brighton has been good too, but I would say it is near impossible for Brighton to win the league, it is not like that for Liverpool, it's unlikely but it's on the table as a possibility.

Arne Slot didn't have any spectacular achievement before signing for Liverpool. This was the point why people have had second thoughts about him. I was also the same, I'm not going to lie.  Tongue

But now we are watching a really good team. Organized, know what they are doing. Salah still has the biggest score contribution. It makes me very happy. Because you know he is 32 years old now. One can doubt his consistency because of his getting old. But no, he continues to play like a maestro.  Smiley

Liverpool to become champions? Why not? But it is going to be very tough to deal with Manchester City - Arsenal both.
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September 07, 2024, 05:04:10 PM
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Liverpool are currently the only team that haven't conceded a single goal in the league. That's impressive!  Smiley  Scoring 7 goals at the same time is also great. It is early in the season but they might create some hype if they go on like this.

The only teams without point loss after 3 weeks are Liverpool and Manchester City now. If I'm not wrong the first game between these two teams in the league is on November 30. There is a really long time until then. After parting ways with Klopp and signing Arne Slot, people are wondering what Liverpool will do. I can't imagine how much he would be loved if Liverpool make it to the league title in his first year already.  Grin


Lol, impressive thought and your thought might be right but don’t you think the season is too fresh to predict besides Brighton and Arsenal is at the corner watching. I still wonder how Brighton managed to come with early speed and energy I hope they mention same energy all through.


If you're wondering about how Brighton managed to come with early speed and energy. It's all started when they let Maresca go to Chelsea. They then recruited Fabian Hurzeler as their new coach. And he is being nominated as the top manager of this month.



Liverpool performance is still very perfect even though they have not made much movement in the transfer market this season, but arne slot is able to maintain their performance and also consistency in achieving victory, although previously arne slot was quite doubtful to have the same capacity like Klopp in coaching but at least at the beginning of this season we can see their journey quite safe with Manchester City,  Arne Slot has not proven that he is better than Klopp but I think Liverpool current game is quite good and has improved very significantly so the opportunity for Arne Slot to win the league is wide open if Liverpool continue to be able to maintain their game performance.

@jeffbrad12, I don't know what the relationship is between Brighton and Maresca who moved to Chelsea, if you  say that Maresca was previously the coach of Brighton of course you are wrong, because the previous coach of Brighton was De Zerbi who moved to Marseille, while Maresca is a former Leicester City coach who was recruited by Chelsea, so I think Brighton current performance has nothing to do with maresce at all.

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September 07, 2024, 05:13:44 PM
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It is really boring when a week passes without any PL game... I hate international breaks when there are friendlies or Nations League games. I see both of them as the same thing.

As for next week's games, we are going to open the week with a Southampton - Manchester United game. I wonder what your thoughts are on that one.  Smiley  Manchester United have been a disgrace for 3 weeks. Even in the Fulham game I didn't like their effort despite the win. Losing to Liverpool home by such a heavy score was also really bad. If they continue to lose many points I don't expect Erik ten Hag to last more than the 1st half of the season.

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September 07, 2024, 05:35:07 PM
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It is good to hear Palmer isn't going to be a part of the Conference League main stage. It isn't the Champions League in the end. Why would you risk your best player by far, right?  Smiley


Right. Use the key player in the prioritized league. Don't risk them by playing against medium-tier clubs in the conference league.

I don't underestimate conference teams, but Palmer is more than a key player for us. He's a vital asset. He helps us compete in the Premier League. even he's carrying us last season.

Also, I have no issue with this. We have a big squad stacked, and it's better to use and give them all minutes.


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September 07, 2024, 06:09:13 PM
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Liverpool are currently the only team that haven't conceded a single goal in the league. That's impressive!  Smiley  Scoring 7 goals at the same time is also great. It is early in the season but they might create some hype if they go on like this.

The only teams without point loss after 3 weeks are Liverpool and Manchester City now. If I'm not wrong the first game between these two teams in the league is on November 30. There is a really long time until then. After parting ways with Klopp and signing Arne Slot, people are wondering what Liverpool will do. I can't imagine how much he would be loved if Liverpool make it to the league title in his first year already.  Grin
Liverpool and Manchester City have been the best in the first 3 weeks of the season, they showed impressive matches, I saw that and you can't say it wrong.

The question for many people is whether Liverpool will be very consistent and show very good performance in Arne Slot, because he is the Liverpool coach now and will compete with his idol, Guardiola as the conqueror of the English premier league in the last few seasons, this will be very interesting, it looks like the English premier league will not be able to escape Manchester City, Arsenal and Liverpool for this kind of potential, although Arsenal did not go well against Brighton yesterday with a draw.

The performance of Liverpool is much better when compared to that of Manchester City after three matches though both teams won their three matches but Liverpool team is yet to conceed a goal which makes them stand out after three matches.

Liverpool has started well so far but whether or not they will remain consistent is still unknown because their are so many matches awaiting them and one can consider them as being consistent if they are able to win every game they play and how well they perform in the games. The Liverpool coach Arne Slot is already aware of the challenges he is going to encounter since he is seeing Manchester City and their coach which is familiar to him so it is his responsibility to position him team in a level where they can challenge Pep Guardiola and his team to win the league ahead of them even as he will have Arsenal to battle with after Manchester City.

It is always a question of consistency, this is something that is very difficult to predict because it is related to the future and the situation of a team on its journey, just like we talk about health, whether we will be healthy in the future, because illness cannot be predicted.
This means that we don't know who will be the most consistent this season even though they had a very good start to the season, but there must be obstacles that will come to them from many factors such as injury, loss of motivation, lack of compatibility, internal problems and others that can occur and affect a team in maintaining its performance.

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September 07, 2024, 07:24:10 PM
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I must have talked about Everton's condition before. They have started terrible and they are a candidate to relegate from the Premier League with this performance. And next time, they are playing away against Aston Villa...

I see another loss on the horizon.  Tongue  Aston Villa would absolutely defeat them while there is such a huge power gap. Emery's team are still really strong despite losing some important players. Because they didn't just stay silent with signings at the same time.

Amadou Onana, Ian Maatsen and Jaden Philogene are the ones that come to my mind right now. I would like to see Aston Villa in top 4 race once again. They are already competing in the Champions League this season.  Smiley

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