⚽ Premier League 2024/2025 Discussion Thread ⚽

[Cityhunter34]

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Manchester united needs to prove to their fans that they are better of finishing on top four of the table by winning their next two matches. This is when I will clear my doubt on them because I will not use their last performance to conclude that they can do it because they plahed against a weak club who just vame back from relegation, and might still go back to relegation at the emd of this season. It is mot about having jigh hopes on United but let them show that they are currently better than alst season.

Manchester United still have much to prove, perhaps to their fans. A top-four finish is important; however, it has to be proved by consistency against stronger teams. Beating newly promoted or lower-tier clubs is fine, but it is not a measure of their overall quality.

The next couple of games will tell us more. If they can, especially against better competition, then we can begin to see improvement from last season. It's too early at this point to be overly optimistic, so let's just watch the upcoming matches and see how they do before making any grand proclamations.

Off course they still have much to prove to there fans, because is not by winning a weak team like Southampton that just came out from religation and We feel that they have improved. However, just like as you have said earlier I think it is when they start to playing with big teams like man city, Arsenal, Aston villa, and Tottenham that we determine there improvement, because though they have already lost t o Brighton and Liverpool and they still have a though match against Crystal palace next week which we can not predict the winer yet because when ever they are playing with Crystal palace they normally find it difficult to win.

[kawetsriyanto]

It stands to reason that many think Man United will find it difficult to break into the top 4 because their performance has been inconsistent so far. But I am quite sure that Man United can perform better than last season, and I even think they could make a surprise if they could find that harmony. There are some new players who still need adaptation. When they can get past that, and there are no more injured players, they should be able to do more than now.

Under Ten Hag's management, Man United always gets difficulty to perform consistently in every match. IMO, the reason is about the quality of Man United squad and the tactics/strategy used by Ten Hag. In the early of this season, Man United already got 2 losses although they could win 2 matches. So, it is normal if people assume Man United will be difficult to finish in the top 4 because they got 2 losses in 4 matches. They were defeated by Brighton and Liverpool. How they can finish in the top 4 if they can't beat a strong team like Brighton and Liverpool? If they want to finish in the top 4, they also must consistent to win the match against strong teams. It looks impossible to finish in the top 4 if they only could get points against weak teams. Considering this fact, do you still believe Man United to surprise us and finish in the top 4? 

Yep. Leny Yoro, Matthijs de Ligt, Noussair Mazraoui, Manuel Ugarte, and Joshua Zirkzee are the new players of Man United this season. These players look having good quality and they are quite young. If these players can adapt well, Man United may improve their performance. However, I'm not really sure they will play immediately with their best in their first season. Many new players can play well in their second season. So, even if these new players can adapt well, it is quite doubtful that Man United can break the the top 4 position.

[ILuckyGuyI]

There is going to be a wonderful game waiting for us next week! It is Manchester City - Arsenal at Etihad Stadium. What do you say for this game? 

Let's have a look at the odds by the way.



Such attracting odds for Manchester City win right?    The thing is Manchester City can't beat Arsenal in the league for two games. The last one at Etihad ended up with a 0-0 draw. But I feel like Guardiola will finally manage to break Arteta's defense. I just see them better than ever. I must say I'm really curious about Haaland's effort at the same time. He started superbly with 9 goals you know.

Haaland had one important problem before. He wasn't able to contribute much in big games. Let's see whether it will change this season. I expect Guardiola to be the happy manager at the end.

Yeah, a really big game is waiting for us at the weekend!    It is a game between 2 favourites of the PL trophy also. As for my opinion, I wouldn't bet on any side here above all else.

My reasoning is that Arteta really knows what he is doing in the games against Manchester City. Just as the example you have given already.    He was Guardiola's assistant manager before and he knows how to play against him.

If Arteta stops Haaland too then it won't be easy for Manchester City to beat them. It really doesn't matter for Arteta if he plays away or not. It is all about solving your competitor's game nicely. As for betting, maybe BTTS might be my choice.

[Die_empty]

Manchester United have not been the same since Sir Alex Ferguson left. My vexation with the club is that Ronaldo was meant to move to Manchester City before he was convinced by SAF to return to Old Trafford as their golden boy. I think the presence of Ronaldo in the squad gave hope to the fans and that raised their expectations, they were probably thinking they would return to the Manchester United of old. So when they were not getting positive results, they turned on their golden boy.

You’re right, I don’t think ETH and Ronaldo were a good match. I’m glad he left United, there’s nothing he could have done for that team. ETH was given the opportunity to get his own squad together and we can see how well that is going.

Don't get too emotional about Ronaldo, Erik ten Hag and Manchester United drama, it's just for entertainment. All three parties are to blame for the poor relationship between the coach and Ronaldo. Ronaldo wouldn't have criticised the club openly, he was remarketing them. Don't forget that United is a business brand and he receives his pay from them. His negative comments about the club can scare away investors from partnering with them .

The coach was also at fault because he failed to give a legend like Ronaldo the special treatment he deserves. He should know that most of the best coaches in the world developed the skills of managing players like Ronaldo. Lastly, the management of the club will take some part of the plan for forcing Ronaldo on the coach. He told the club that the Portuguese captain didn't fit in his style of play. They would have sought means to let the striker leave instead of allowing him to remain in the club.

[EL MOHA]

Ronaldo didn’t lie about Manchester United in his interview with Piers Morgan. It is my opinion that Manchester United were the ones who disrespected Ronaldo. Manchester United fans came up with the “Ronaldo is blocking the progress of Rashford and Martial.“ How many premier league goals have they scored since Ronaldo left the club? Has any United player under ETH surpassed Ronaldo’s 17 premier league goals? No! Martial left the club on a free transfer after earning over £200k at Manchester United. So what’s the misinformation you are talking about? This is football, our opinions cannot be the same on these matters but I don’t misinform anyone to make a point.

First of all this Ronaldo Saga with Manchester United is always growing and it has divided the Fans but the truth still remains that even if Ronaldo was right airing such comments on public TV was definitely a wrong move and piers Morgan was definitely getting him into trouble, Ronaldo is a Manchester United legend and could have done better to air his opinion, i don’t know how you want to put it but Manchester United didn’t disrespect him and that’s why they peacefully terminated that contact which was a good way to path ways, you don’t expect him to be back into the club after saying those things even if they are true the channel it was wrong.

As for him blocking the progress of martial and Rashford i didn’t see this been raise rather what was said was that Manchester United played different with Ronaldo in the team, the game plan was to create chances for him as that was only way to accommodate Ronaldo and this wasn’t even a false claim because Solkjaer confirmed it him self, he even said players like Cavani were not having regular or enough playing time due to Ronaldo arrival. One thing I say is Ronaldo return was the biggest mistake both the player and the club made then. It even cost Manchester United the progress they were having under OLE

[Belarge]

First of all this Ronaldo Saga with Manchester United is always growing and it has divided the Fans but the truth still remains that even if Ronaldo was right airing such comments on public TV was definitely a wrong move and piers Morgan was definitely getting him into trouble, Ronaldo is a Manchester United legend and could have done better to air his opinion, i don’t know how you want to put it but Manchester United didn’t disrespect him and that’s why they peacefully terminated that contact which was a good way to path ways, you don’t expect him to be back into the club after saying those things even if they are true the channel it was wrong.

As for him blocking the progress of martial and Rashford i didn’t see this been raise rather what was said was that Manchester United played different with Ronaldo in the team, the game plan was to create chances for him as that was only way to accommodate Ronaldo and this wasn’t even a false claim because Solkjaer confirmed it him self, he even said players like Cavani were not having regular or enough playing time due to Ronaldo arrival. One thing I say is Ronaldo return was the biggest mistake both the player and the club made then. It even cost Manchester United the progress they were having under OLE

Manchester United players are mediocre compared to the level of football played by Cristiano Ronaldo who's experienced and advanced in major phases of the game. There's absolutely no comparison for this player in Old Trafford currently. The ones that tried ended up in floppy form. You can't blamed Cristiano Ronaldo or Piers Morgan who's innocently pointing out sensible questions for Ronaldo to answer. We know how straight Ronaldo can in these scenarios, he's one of the most decorated playee in the European football history, he has created a name for himself in not just football but also the universe. We should not misinterpret Ronaldo but try our possible best to examined from his own view. Ronaldo is a top player that reaches out to his teammates and popularly known for banging goals.

[red4slash]

Although in the previous match Arsenal could get 3 points when visiting Tottenham but I think for now against Manchester City the situation will be more different.

They will still be very troubled by player injuries, besides that Rice's red card is also currently sentenced to 2 matches making Arsenal even more difficult so I think it's not wrong if Manchester City are the favourites in this match because apart from them playing home in this match, they also certainly have a good situation where the squad is much more complex than Arsenal.

I will set aside a little of my money for this match because I think the odds of 1.78 are still very feasible for the current conditions especially with the difference in the location of the current player strength, 1.78 for Mancehsetr City in this big match is still very worth it to do.

[liuka]

Off course they still have much to prove to there fans, because is not by winning a weak team like Southampton that just came out from religation and We feel that they have improved. However, just like as you have said earlier I think it is when they start to playing with big teams like man city, Arsenal, Aston villa, and Tottenham that we determine there improvement, because though they have already lost t o Brighton and Liverpool and they still have a though match against Crystal palace next week which we can not predict the winer yet because when ever they are playing with Crystal palace they normally find it difficult to win.

With the many negative assumptions about Erik Ten Hag's unsatisfactory performance at the beginning of this season, of course many people assume that he will be fired this season if he fails to bring Manchester United back to playing in the Champions League. Of course, there are many tough matches that Manchester United must go through this season, Arsenal is strong, Manchester City is the same, meaning they must be able to improve their good performance if they want to improve their reputation as the most successful team in the Premier League.

It is true that there are many efforts that must be proven to fans, especially when facing Crystal Palace where Manchester United must be able to continue the winning trend. Yes, their last match was of course quite terrible because Crystal Palace managed to beat Manchester United with a score of 4-0.

I am sure that their second match in the first half of this season is an opportunity for revenge for the big defeat last season. Crystal Palace must have understood very well how to beat Manchester United, especially since they are playing at home, of course the odds for both will not be much different.

[AYOBA]

Manchester United still have much to prove, perhaps to their fans. A top-four finish is important; however, it has to be proved by consistency against stronger teams. Beating newly promoted or lower-tier clubs is fine, but it is not a measure of their overall quality.

The Manchester United performance still look unserious this season they way they end up their performance last season all the fan was thinking that this might be better; that they can improve their performance more to change their playing pattern, and their still repeated there poorly performing again this season: I don’t think Manchester United can have such promoting if they continue with this performances.

The next couple of games will tell us more. If they can, especially against better competition, then we can begin to see improvement from last season. It's too early at this point to be overly optimistic, so let's just watch the upcoming matches and see how they do before making any grand proclamations.

In this case I don’ think it’s too early to talk against Manchester United the reason why a lot of people are overly optimistic them is that, this is how they start their journey last with poorly performances and instead to improve before the season end; but they did not they still the that season with that same performed that’s even the fans where challenged them right early before the league can go far.

[EL MOHA]

Manchester United players are mediocre compared to the level of football played by Cristiano Ronaldo who's experienced and advanced in major phases of the game. There's absolutely no comparison for this player in Old Trafford currently. The ones that tried ended up in floppy form. You can't blamed Cristiano Ronaldo or Piers Morgan who's innocently pointing out sensible questions for Ronaldo to answer. We know how straight Ronaldo can in these scenarios, he's one of the most decorated playee in the European football history, he has created a name for himself in not just football but also the universe. We should not misinterpret Ronaldo but try our possible best to examined from his own view. Ronaldo is a top player that reaches out to his teammates and popularly known for banging goals.

Alright let’s get things straight Ronaldo is the arguably the greatest footballer of all time and this is fact no one is denying that but that doesn’t mean everything he says about football to be final, he was wrong for the way he called out Manchester United and not that he was wrong in those claims you made, Piers Morgan who we all Know to be an Arsenal legend and obviously a Manchester United rival, was an old enemy of this same Ronaldo that you’re talking about, he was the journalist that brought Ronaldo’s rape case issue out when he was at Manchester United and obviously it was united that solved that problem, he hadn’t say anything good about Ronaldo before not until he asked those questions that Ronaldo definitely answered improperly.

As for Manchester United players not upto Ronaldo’s standard we all know that but mind you before Ronaldo signed for Manchester United they finished second in the table and lost the Europa league final which shows the were clearly on a different and better route going forward. The arrival of Ronaldo definitely changed the dimensions of the team because a new superstar was in the team and they needed to play to his pace and game, and this definitely changed the team. So I will say it again Ronaldo second coming was definitely a bad idea from onset.

[KingsDen]

4.70 is a big odd and it's worth taking the risk. For the past 2 seasons, Manchester city has never got hold of Arsenal in all the competitions. However, this season Arsenal has not proven that they are so great while Haaland of Manchester city has shown that he is in a beast mode. Betting by goals could be a good option anyways.

Manchester United still have much to prove, perhaps to their fans. A top-four finish is important; however, it has to be proved by consistency against stronger teams. Beating newly promoted or lower-tier clubs is fine, but it is not a measure of their overall quality.

I am yet to understand Manchester United this season also. Maybe let's give Manchester United another 3 matches to see what ETH has for the team.

[samuraijin]

Although in the previous match Arsenal could get 3 points when visiting Tottenham but I think for now against Manchester City the situation will be more different.

They will still be very troubled by player injuries, besides that Rice's red card is also currently sentenced to 2 matches making Arsenal even more difficult so I think it's not wrong if Manchester City are the favourites in this match because apart from them playing home in this match, they also certainly have a good situation where the squad is much more complex than Arsenal.

I will set aside a little of my money for this match because I think the odds of 1.78 are still very feasible for the current conditions especially with the difference in the location of the current player strength, 1.78 for Mancehsetr City in this big match is still very worth it to do.

It is very difficult to place a bet on this match, even though this match is a prestigious match but on the other hand, the odds are too big to place a bet on Man City but for Arsenal the odds are not favored but the income will be big if Arsenal is able to win, The City playing at home means that it is very difficult for Arsenal to get a win but on the other hand the ball is round no one knows who will win but I am sure Arsenal will be able to win.

[Litzki1990]

The case of dismissing a manager is nothing new in football, several great coaches have also experienced it, such as Jose Mourinho, Thomas Tuchel, Julian Nagelsmann and several other great coaches. Manchester United seem too cold with Ten Hag even though they know the team's performance is difficult to improve under his management. I am very skeptical about Ten Hag's ability this season, especially since the EPL is getting more competitive after Liverpool returned to their best form after appointing a new coach. Dark horse teams like Aston Villa, Brighton and Newcastle are also ready to provide a surprise, So Manchester United chances of finishing in the European zone at the end of the season are very small.

The manager is paid to manage the team well but if the manager fails to manage the team well then the management can definitely fire him and hire a new one it is a very natural phenomenon. Other clubs such as Bayern Munich, PSG, Chelsea have done this regularly but for Manchester United, sacking a manager seems to be a very tough move. They are tolerating the poor performance of the managers but they are not firing the manager. Last season Manchester United could have sacked this manager but instead of doing that they put their trust in this manager and this manager is constantly letting them down. With a full season left now it is up to the Manchester United management to decide whether the management will wait for the full season or fire this manager now.

[koang]

The case of dismissing a manager is nothing new in football, several great coaches have also experienced it, such as Jose Mourinho, Thomas Tuchel, Julian Nagelsmann and several other great coaches. Manchester United seem too cold with Ten Hag even though they know the team's performance is difficult to improve under his management. I am very skeptical about Ten Hag's ability this season, especially since the EPL is getting more competitive after Liverpool returned to their best form after appointing a new coach. Dark horse teams like Aston Villa, Brighton and Newcastle are also ready to provide a surprise, So Manchester United chances of finishing in the European zone at the end of the season are very small.

The manager is paid to manage the team well but if the manager fails to manage the team well then the management can definitely fire him and hire a new one it is a very natural phenomenon. Other clubs such as Bayern Munich, PSG, Chelsea have done this regularly but for Manchester United, sacking a manager seems to be a very tough move. They are tolerating the poor performance of the managers but they are not firing the manager. Last season Manchester United could have sacked this manager but instead of doing that they put their trust in this manager and this manager is constantly letting them down. With a full season left now it is up to the Manchester United management to decide whether the management will wait for the full season or fire this manager now.

Honestly, I don't care about the last season…the most important thing is this season but I’m not impressed with the United match so far.
But Ten Hag is still the manager so he has to do everything to get United back on the track and find their best form.
And ensure the players have fresh legs in the Manchester United squad for the many games ahead.
It’s important to stay informed about player injuries and recovery times, as they can affect team performance.
This season is the last chance for him. So, no more excuse

[piervalkiria]

The manager is paid to manage the team well but if the manager fails to manage the team well then the management can definitely fire him and hire a new one it is a very natural phenomenon. Other clubs such as Bayern Munich, PSG, Chelsea have done this regularly but for Manchester United, sacking a manager seems to be a very tough move. They are tolerating the poor performance of the managers but they are not firing the manager. Last season Manchester United could have sacked this manager but instead of doing that they put their trust in this manager and this manager is constantly letting them down. With a full season left now it is up to the Manchester United management to decide whether the management will wait for the full season or fire this manager now.
Honestly, I don't care about the last season…the most important thing is this season but I’m not impressed with the United match so far.
But Ten Hag is still the manager so he has to do everything to get United back on the track and find their best form.
And ensure the players have fresh legs in the Manchester United squad for the many games ahead.
It’s important to stay informed about player injuries and recovery times, as they can affect team performance.
This season is the last chance for him. So, no more excuse

Indeed, managing a football club is no easy task and the pressure is immense. In terms of Manchester United, the tolerance towards the current management could perhaps be attributed to the legacy and sentimentality attached to the club. Firing a manager in the middle of a season is a big decision as it could destabilize the team. However, continuous poor performance might force the management's hand, especially if it puts the club's standing at risk. The focus of a manager needs to be on the current season and ensuring player fitness to achieve the best results. Evaluating players, their injuries and recovery times are critical aspects of team management. There's normally little margin for excuses in highly competitive football. The expectations put on Ten Hag are massive and only time will tell if he can live up to them.

[tusandii]

Although, it is too early, no one would comfortably predict the teams that will occupy the top 4. However, it seems that Manchester city, Arsenal and Liverpool will maintain their spots at the top of the table, leaving the fourth slot for the battle between Aston villa, Manchester United and Chelsea, if not New Castle.

Man United is on the list of contenders for position 4 is a little doubtful but hopefully this club finds its best game to get back on the right track as the reputation of this club is increasingly far from the initial vision and mission. Don't be surprised if there is an unexpected club that is clearly interested in competing for position 4 in the standings, it could be Brighton or Nottingham Forest. Because so far in the early season these 2 clubs have quietly carried out unexpected aggression from 4 matches without losing, it is already worthy of appreciation.

Just like previous seasons Aston Villa, Chelsea, Manchester United and Newcastle are always competing to occupy 4th place I don't think Brighton or Notingham Forest will occupy that position because I predict it will not last long just like last season when Brighton appeared strong at the beginning of the season over time their performance declined and I think it's the same as this season even in the last 2 matches Brighton failed to maintain their lead and have lost 4 points, as well as Notingham Forest they also lost 4 points in these 4 matches showing that their performance is still inconsistent and there are still many matches to be played judging at the beginning of the season it feels too early.

[knowngunman]

Off course they still have much to prove to there fans, because is not by winning a weak team like Southampton that just came out from religation and We feel that they have improved. However, just like as you have said earlier I think it is when they start to playing with big teams like man city, Arsenal, Aston villa, and Tottenham that we determine there improvement, because though they have already lost t o Brighton and Liverpool and they still have a though match against Crystal palace next week which we can not predict the winer yet because when ever they are playing with Crystal palace they normally find it difficult to win.

I'm also yet to see improvement from Manchester united despite their victory against Southampton last Saturday. No doubt, they won and secured the whole three points but it was still a poor game performance in general. They were just lucky given that Southampton were as well very poor in finishing. That particular game was a game they could gather a great goal difference but their weak attack couldn't utilize the opportunity. Liverpool or Manchester city would have crushed ten men southampton with six or more goals. They need to recheck their performance and brace up, the season is just starting and there's time to improve. If you take out the goals from that match, there's absolutely nothing impressive about their play.

[Oluwa-btc]

Manchester United have not been the same since Sir Alex Ferguson left. My vexation with the club is that Ronaldo was meant to move to Manchester City before he was convinced by SAF to return to Old Trafford as their golden boy. I think the presence of Ronaldo in the squad gave hope to the fans and that raised their expectations, they were probably thinking they would return to the Manchester United of old. So when they were not getting positive results, they turned on their golden boy.

You’re right, I don’t think ETH and Ronaldo were a good match. I’m glad he left United, there’s nothing he could have done for that team. ETH was given the opportunity to get his own squad together and we can see how well that is going.

Then you should channel your energy towards Sir Alex Ferguson and not Manchester United. I wonder how you view things. What's done has been done back, it's time now to pay attention to the present and work towards a greater future. For your information, there's no player bigger than Manchester United and it's sad to see that fans just like you want the success of a player more than they want for the club. It's Pathetic for goodness sake.
Maybe Ronaldo should have reported for training other than stay at home waiting for his agent to link him up with clubs playing in the Champions League Competition. I don't think you're glad he left, you pained ASF. He had enough to show for but it's what it is, stuff's like this happens.

Meanwhile, Manchester United will host BARNSLEY tonight at Old Trafford for the Carabao Cup Competition. Erik Ten Hag hinted yesterday of Antony get a chance to play regularly if he level up his game for the club. I want to see him do well because I believe, he's still got something to prove.