⚽ Premier League 2024/2025 Discussion Thread ⚽

[Adbitco]

It is simply a head-to-head record between them at Crystal Palace's home stadium in the recent years. As Manchester United are playing away it is healthier to consider that rather than the games at Old Trafford. Besides things don't go the way you tell us exactly. Head-to-head games really matter. It is useful to analyze what can possibly happen. I have been using these stats while making bets and I can confidently say I won many bets thanks to it. 


By the way the opening game of the fifth week is going to be West Ham - Chelsea. Honestly I believe in Chelsea to win this tough game. West Ham already lost to Aston Villa and Manchester City home.

They have serious weaknesses against challenging teams. Considering how capable Chelsea also are on paper, they can do it. Big thanks to Palmer though. 

I am not giving that priority to Chelsea any longer as believe how they have dropped in their performance. And of course West Ham gonna beat them since few matches I gave chelsea winning but they wholly failed me and instead i lost completely I wouldn't try it that much to give them any further winning instead they can likely draw.

Just when you gave up on Chelsea, they are flying high with their first half victory over West Ham. I can only understand how disappointed you would be right now but you have to understand that emotions are not needed in gambling. You've got to develop some kind of consistency, choose your team and continue consistently with them and you could be making more progress that you would if you continue jumping from one place to the other searching for the holy grail. As Chelsea will be winning today, will you resume playing them again?

I know football is something that is not predictable and can likely go on the opposite, like, when you don't expect you see a different results from them but at the time wouldn't be expecting something much then you will also a different version of them just as what Chelsea did to West Ham today. They have been poorly performing of few of their matches which I happened to give them winning but it was on the opposite and regretted haven give them such priorities, but whatever I don't care because I know how the terms of football game works and it happens when we least expected it.

[Sandra_hakeem]

Manchester United really dominated the first half with many goal opportunities, but none of them were scored. The first half ended goalless, while throughout the second half the score was still the same. Crystal Palace started to improve in the second half and they tended to be able to develop their game and try to press, it worked with several opportunities that could not be converted into goals.

Mhannn, that miss by garnacho would have been a finesse goal -- fuckin' inches away, swiping through the keeper's gloves and hitting the cross bar!!!?? I nearly screamed my head out. The second touch by Fernandez wasn't accurate anyway, otherwise, they would have sealed that goal. A reply of that, with the way the pass was laid out tells me alot about how united has improved their gameplay over time.

On the other hand, crystal palace also had -- almost the same opportunity, but lost it on a one-on-one encounter with onana... How insane was that? I just find it hard to believe, but I think man united played so well in the game, but were unlucky to bag home that 3 points.

[Docnaster]

Manchester United really dominated the first half with many goal opportunities, but none of them were scored. The first half ended goalless, while throughout the second half the score was still the same. Crystal Palace started to improve in the second half and they tended to be able to develop their game and try to press, it worked with several opportunities that could not be converted into goals.

Dominating a game from the first minute till the last minute and still fail to win it as as good as the opposing team who was dominated because at the end of the day, both teams will leave the pitch with just one point apiece. Manchester United style of football have limited the potentials of the players in the team and that's why they're not performing at the top of their game.
If a player like Alejandro Garnacho is managed by a better manager who understands how to use his pacy and skillful playing pattern, I'm sure he'll be competing with his peers as one of the best players in the world. The earlier the club management of Manchester United comes to terms that the club will not grow more that it is now if their current manager continues to be at the club, the better for them.

[Churchillvv]

I think it's safe to say that most of today's games would have easily been predicted with a few exceptions like the Manchester United boredraw against Crystal Palace a game we all knew was going to be tough...

On the bright side, some teams impressed...the likes of Chelsea and Jackson leading the attack, some convincing performance...and Liverpool back to winning ways I think punters had a great day.

Looking forward to the Manchester City- Arsenal game ..

Actually you are right but I'm sure United ruined a lot of betting tickets today and I still cannot understand how Ten Hag is still their coach after failing so many times in the last couple of years.

It was quite a tough match to predict because several things where to be considered in which if properly examined one would come up with the feeling of not even trusting Manchester united to achieve any goals. in the recent times they have been doing well in some areas just like the past match which they won 7:0 against Barnsley but from the statistics of crystal palace they are well trained to play a defensive game which was why Manchester united find it difficult to break through this tough defense.

I already had the feeling that it would probably end in draw so I took the away or draw option on my local betting site which came out correct. So people just had to go for other options than straight winning because it wouldn't work with crystal palace.

[blue Snow]

Dominating a game from the first minute till the last minute and still fail to win it as as good as the opposing team who was dominated because at the end of the day, both teams will leave the pitch with just one point apiece. Manchester United style of football have limited the potentials of the players in the team and that's why they're not performing at the top of their game.
If a player like Alejandro Garnacho is managed by a better manager who understands how to use his pacy and skillful playing pattern, I'm sure he'll be competing with his peers as one of the best players in the world. The earlier the club management of Manchester United comes to terms that the club will not grow more that it is now if their current manager continues to be at the club, the better for them.

Maybe because MU's players still on euphoric the big win the other day so neglect to take advantage of opportunities. I don't know why Ten Hag didn't play Rashford as starter. maybe if he played earlier can provide motivation for other players to create the winning as in the previous 2 games. Some players also showed poor performance, and giving up opportunities in front of goal. they are like "reset to  the factory" and forgot how well they played the other day.

[Litzki1990]

A potentially the biggest game of the first half of the season is ahead of us this Sunday. Man City is playing Arsenal at home.
Odds are as follows:
Man City: x1.80
Draw: x3.66
Arsenal: x4.50

If Arsenal loses this one, they will be 5 points behind, and we all know, from the last season, how hard it can be to make up for such difference.
I think a draw is quite likely. City is really hard to beat at home, and Arsenal, so far, has a really good defence, losing only 1 goal in the the first 4 league games. I hope we won't see another 0-0 though. Odds makers seem to believe that most likely we'll see two goals or less.

Manchester City against Arsenal match may likely end in a tie because they both played draw in their Champions League games and the funny thing is that they both ended in 0:0 score in their respective games in the champions league. I know that bookmakers always gives the favourite odds to Manchester City due to the fact that they mostly win Arsenal in their meetings. Arsenal is still in a good form currently same as Manchester City and the season is still new such that the both teams don't have much injury records so the players are still very much active and ready to play with enthusiasm so it will be a very tough game even though most football analysts are predicting Manchester City to win.

Tomorrow the biggest match of the Premier League will be held where Manchester City and Arsenal will be the opponents. If we discuss the two biggest teams in the Premier League at the moment, then Manchester City and Arsenal will definitely be at the top of the discussion because this team has been performing brilliantly for the past few seasons and the position of these two teams has been at number one or number two in the points table.
Many are saying that tomorrow's match is likely to be a draw but the statistics of the match may be different if either team scores earlier and goes ahead. Since the opponents are almost equal, the team that scores first between the two teams will have more chances to win. I will refrain from betting on this match and I will only enjoy this match.

[asriloni]

Manchester United pathern of play in this first half was really entertaining, Manchester United lack a good goal scorer in the first half as some many chances where been miss out. I noticed Manchester United play was around Alejandro Garnacho though crystal palace goalkeeper did some good save in the first half definitely I see Manchester United winning this game due to there first half performance by the time Marcus Rashford and Rasmus Hojlund will come in in the second half I believe Manchester United will be able to find the net.

Manchester United played well in the match, but they couldn’t secure a goal, which is really a bad one. They dominated the match in both the first half and second half of the match, but everything ended in a draw. When the first half of the match ended, most people expected Manchester United to score in the second half of the match, but Crystal Palace was able to hold Manchester United down, and they both shared the points, which is not really good for Manchester United, they are currently in 11th position on the table. After Manchester United fans are thinking they are getting back to form, and they were saying Crystal Palace will be a bonus to them, but they couldn’t defeat them.

Manchester United did play a bad game overall. They were so wasteful, they missed many chances to win. Their performance was worse than in previous games.

They performed so differently. Too many backpasses on the back line. The attackers were toothless and couldn't find the net. Very disappointed how they get draw as their final result.

In the end, they could win the game if they was not being so wasteful in this game. They had the chances to have absolutely buried them.

[tusandii]

Dominating a game from the first minute till the last minute and still fail to win it as as good as the opposing team who was dominated because at the end of the day, both teams will leave the pitch with just one point apiece. Manchester United style of football have limited the potentials of the players in the team and that's why they're not performing at the top of their game.
If a player like Alejandro Garnacho is managed by a better manager who understands how to use his pacy and skillful playing pattern, I'm sure he'll be competing with his peers as one of the best players in the world. The earlier the club management of Manchester United comes to terms that the club will not grow more that it is now if their current manager continues to be at the club, the better for them.

Maybe because MU's players still on euphoric the big win the other day so neglect to take advantage of opportunities. I don't know why Ten Hag didn't play Rashford as starter. maybe if he played earlier can provide motivation for other players to create the winning as in the previous 2 games. Some players also showed poor performance, and giving up opportunities in front of goal. they are like "reset to  the factory" and forgot how well they played the other day.

I have said it many times that Manchester United's victory in the previous match even with a big score cannot be used as a benchmark to repeat the same thing when playing against the Premier League club because Man United's performance is still very doubtful since Erik Ten Hag coached this club so I am not surprised if Man United only got a draw in this match even without a goal because they were not able to do much, Man United's front line could not play its role well, maybe because the strategy given by the coach made Man United players become dull and lose their motivation. I think if Erik Ten Hag continues to be maintained by MU the club will not be able to compete in the top 4 this coach cannot make Man United rise from its slump.

[len01]

Today's big match between Man City vs Arsenal.

In terms of H2H, these two teams always compete very tightly in terms of getting 3 points in each meeting and both teams have the same results in 5 meetings. However, if we refer to the previous season, Arsenal always performed well at the beginning of the season and if that happens, I am sure this match can end in a draw or a narrow victory can be obtained by Man City.

Man City odds @1.78
Arsenal @4.80
Draw @3.70

Looking at these odds, bookmakers still believe that Man City victory can happen and a draw is also one of the surprises that could happen. I might choose to bet on under 2.25 to get higher odds because both teams don't want to concede and have a very strong defense.

[fuguebtc]

I knew the game between Manchester City and Arsenal will be an amazing game to watch, and still it will be very tough for both teams because Manchester are strong, we all know that, and also Arsenal are trying their best in performance, and they are now just 2 points below Manchester City, which Arsenal has a good defence and is also very strong for any team to find hard to penetrate, but I don’t still know what will happen in the game on Sunday. That is why I will not predict, but I have expectations or a draw game.

Although the up coming Arsenal match with Manchester City will be a tough for both teams, yeah indeed their match will little tough, because both of the teams are strong and there doing well this this season which everyone will like to claim their experts during the match; but started that arsenal are also try their not only try arsenal is also performing well this season because they don’t want repeat what has been happening for them in previous seasons.

Having expectations on a draw between Arsenal and the Manchester City I think is wrong prediction, even though both teams are strong that doesn’t guarantee to predict draw against them, I know arsenal will try to make everything possible by dominating their next coming match sure.

Kevin De Bruyne might be missing today, but Haaland's main target is now to fire City 5 points clear of Arsenal, now they are 2 points ahead from the Gunners.

If Arsenal is actually able to win this match it is going to be a little bit of a surprise for me. I still think that Pep Guardiola's side is a better team with a better squad and they will have the upper hand in this match. But Mikel Arteta has also been able to build a strong squad and they will definitely give a good fight. Even though I say that Artetais's side is not as strong, I think in this match there is a chance for any of the teams to win.

the Gunners has to step up in these big matches if they want to win the English premier league title. They can't just win the matches where the teams are not as strong as them and somehow get a draw against worthy opponents. That is just hiding behind like a coward. If Arteta's men can't win against worthy opponents they don't deserve to win the title.

Source: https://talksport.com/football/2066098/kevin-de-bruyne-man-city-injury-news/

[Bitcoin_people]

Liverpool are currently at the top of the points table although I think Manchester City have enough to do to win the title this season. We have seen Liverpool win Bournemouth game with Liverpool and they have added points from that win to top the points table. Anyway Manchester City is going to face Arsenal today, these two teams are very strong in EPL, I think Manchester City will win this match today. Manchester City is much stronger than Arsenal now and they perform well in every match so I think Man City will win this match today.

[$weetne$$]

Chelsea really impressed today and it was a well deserved victory and very important 3 points for them. Same goes for Aston Villla who had the power to comeback from 1-0 against Wolves and win the game with 3-1 + this game was also a great game to bet if you had money to spare. 

Chelsea play very well and they deserve the victory, scoring early and adding more goals made it easy for them to dominate the game. West Ham did not look like they could have won the game. Chelsea not scoring more goals was very surprising because they had many chances but did not utilized them very well or it could be they were tired of playing for the goal. Nicolas Jackson has been improving since his contract got extended, he had his 50th appearance yesterday and got a brace. I thought the coach would allow him play more so he can get a hat trick because he had just one goal left to complete that and there were many chances being created that no other players were capable of converting. Felix had few chances that he could have converted in the second half but he missed them with a close call.

[SatoPrincess]

Chelsea really impressed today and it was a well deserved victory and very important 3 points for them. Same goes for Aston Villla who had the power to comeback from 1-0 against Wolves and win the game with 3-1 + this game was also a great game to bet if you had money to spare. 

Chelsea play very well and they deserve the victory, scoring early and adding more goals made it easy for them to dominate the game. West Ham did not look like they could have won the game. Chelsea not scoring more goals was very surprising because they had many chances but did not utilized them very well or it could be they were tired of playing for the goal. Nicolas Jackson has been improving since his contract got extended, he had his 50th appearance yesterday and got a brace. I thought the coach would allow him play more so he can get a hat trick because he had just one goal left to complete that and there were many chances being created that no other players were capable of converting. Felix had few chances that he could have converted in the second half but he missed them with a close call.

Chelsea looked liked a different team yesterday when they took on Westham in the London Derby. Westham didn’t look prepared for the game because they let Chelsea dominate them in every position of the pitch and were very poor in defense too, giving way to Nicolas Jackson to run through their defense and scoring two wonderful goals. Chelsea are attacking so well now, they have very good options in attack and everyone is putting efforts now. Enzo Maresca seems to have his project put together.

[TastyChillySauce00]

Today's big match between Man City vs Arsenal.

In terms of H2H, these two teams always compete very tightly in terms of getting 3 points in each meeting and both teams have the same results in 5 meetings. However, if we refer to the previous season, Arsenal always performed well at the beginning of the season and if that happens, I am sure this match can end in a draw or a narrow victory can be obtained by Man City.

Man City odds @1.78
Arsenal @4.80
Draw @3.70

Looking at these odds, bookmakers still believe that Man City victory can happen and a draw is also one of the surprises that could happen. I might choose to bet on under 2.25 to get higher odds because both teams don't want to concede and have a very strong defense.

I strongly believe both teams will be prioritizing their defense. There won't be a lot of goals to happen from them. They will produce a maximum of two goals. And most likely their game will end draw/1-0.

I think picking under 2.25 is a sense choice but going higher than that, like under 3.25 is still good; it's also less risky.

[LUCKMCFLY]

The problem with Ten Hag and his team is consistency. Ten Hag's mode of selection of his first team is another problem because, but if he can keep up with the team he displayed in the Europa League, I think they will be among the title contenders alongside Liverpool and Arsenal.
Rashford needs consistency and Gernacho is a good goal scorer, if their connection will be stronger, they will definitely score more goals for Manchester United this season.

I understand that these are very good things that these players can do, but just seeing things that seem immature to me, for example Garnacho came in, scored a goal and celebrated the goal like CR7, just because of that Ten Hag is not going to score it again, so that's stupidity on the part of the coach, it seems to me that he is not a mature person, freedom has to exist, if he wants to celebrate however it doesn't matter, he already scored the goal, so because of that he won't score it, so these are the type of attitudes that don't let a team advance, is that fair? No, so basically for me the problem is only Ten Hag.

[SatoPrincess]

Chelsea play very well and they deserve the victory, scoring early and adding more goals made it easy for them to dominate the game. West Ham did not look like they could have won the game. Chelsea not scoring more goals was very surprising because they had many chances but did not utilized them very well or it could be they were tired of playing for the goal. Nicolas Jackson has been improving since his contract got extended, he had his 50th appearance yesterday and got a brace. I thought the coach would allow him play more so he can get a hat trick because he had just one goal left to complete that and there were many chances being created that no other players were capable of converting. Felix had few chances that he could have converted in the second half but he missed them with a close call.

Chelsea were very impressive in their game yesterday. Once again they proved that they are still a top club in the premier league as they demolished Westham. I think Enzo Maresca is finally getting the pieces together with Chelsea. I was surprised to see Jackson so composed in front of goal and finishing well. The criticism from Mikel Obi and the fans has made Jackson a better goal scorer IMO. There are high hopes now of a bright future for Chelsea FC.

[Stable090]

Actually you are right but I'm sure United ruined a lot of betting tickets today and I still cannot understand how Ten Hag is still their coach after failing so many times in the last couple of years.

Am thinking about two things that might be the reason why Manchester United are still keeping Ten Hag. The first reason why I think they are still keeping him is because they don’t really have a replacement for him yet, because if Ten Hag is sacked, who do we think can replace him that will improve the club's performance? The second reason, which I think is the reason why they are keeping him, is that maybe Manchester United are just trying to give Ten Hag more time to see if he will improve, but with the way things are going, Manchester United might end up ending the season in a worst position, which they never expected.

Chelsea really impressed today and it was a well deserved victory and very important 3 points for them.

Chelsea played well in the match, and their performance impressed everyone, no one expected the match to be so easy for Chelsea. The season is just starting, but at least their performance is kind of good compared to previous seasons. I am surprised to see Chelsea in 4th position, I never expected that. Let’s just hope Chelsea will keep on improving.

[trendcoin]

Today's big match between Man City vs Arsenal.

In terms of H2H, these two teams always compete very tightly in terms of getting 3 points in each meeting and both teams have the same results in 5 meetings. However, if we refer to the previous season, Arsenal always performed well at the beginning of the season and if that happens, I am sure this match can end in a draw or a narrow victory can be obtained by Man City.

Man City odds @1.78
Arsenal @4.80
Draw @3.70

Looking at these odds, bookmakers still believe that Man City victory can happen and a draw is also one of the surprises that could happen. I might choose to bet on under 2.25 to get higher odds because both teams don't want to concede and have a very strong defense.

These kind of matches are always open to surprise results but Manchester City have started the season very well. They won the 4 games they played this season by scoring 11 goals and 9 of the 11 goals were scored by Haaland. This wonderkid has scored almost all of Manchester City's goals. Before the week 5 matches were played, no other team had scored as many goals as him. As a footballer he had surpassed the scoring statistics of every other team. I don't care what happens in today's game, I want Manchester City to win, but I don't care about the result, I hope someone doesn't steal this boy's Balon'd'or again... :)

[Oluwa-btc]

I understand that these are very good things that these players can do, but just seeing things that seem immature to me, for example Garnacho came in, scored a goal and celebrated the goal like CR7, just because of that Ten Hag is not going to score it again, so that's stupidity on the part of the coach, it seems to me that he is not a mature person, freedom has to exist, if he wants to celebrate however it doesn't matter, he already scored the goal, so because of that he won't score it, so these are the type of attitudes that don't let a team advance, is that fair? No, so basically for me the problem is only Ten Hag.

What has the celebration of Alejandro Garnacho got to do with Erik Ten Hag? C'mon man, do better!! Erik Ten Hag has never done such a thing truthfully.
Pay attention to the images below and they're big chances missed by clubs isn the Premier League Competition ( Man United players not doing badly, they just need to be clinical with them finishing ). Clean sheets in the Premier League Competition yet folks and fans will tell you that Manchester United hasn't improved from the way they was last season.

[legendbtc]

I knew the game between Manchester City and Arsenal will be an amazing game to watch, and still it will be very tough for both teams because Manchester are strong, we all know that, and also Arsenal are trying their best in performance, and they are now just 2 points below Manchester City, which Arsenal has a good defence and is also very strong for any team to find hard to penetrate, but I don’t still know what will happen in the game on Sunday. That is why I will not predict, but I have expectations or a draw game.

Although the up coming Arsenal match with Manchester City will be a tough for both teams, yeah indeed their match will little tough, because both of the teams are strong and there doing well this this season which everyone will like to claim their experts during the match; but started that arsenal are also try their not only try arsenal is also performing well this season because they don’t want repeat what has been happening for them in previous seasons.

Having expectations on a draw between Arsenal and the Manchester City I think is wrong prediction, even though both teams are strong that doesn’t guarantee to predict draw against them, I know arsenal will try to make everything possible by dominating their next coming match sure.

Yes. A match that promises to be extremely attractive from the coach's bench to the field. Arsenal is a tough opponent for Man City, I'm not too sure about Man City's ability to win against Arsenal. This comes from the Gunners' good head-to-head record, having gone 3 consecutive matches without losing against Man City. However, this is a time when Arsenal does not have many options in attack without midfielder Odegaard, while Man City has a homh-field advantage and high form from Haaland. And so I choose the home team Man City to win this match. I don't think this is a draw.

Kevin De Bruyne might be missing today, but Haaland's main target is now to fire City 5 points clear of Arsenal, now they are 2 points ahead from the Gunners.

In this match, both sides are missing their key midfielders. On Man City's side is Kevin De Bruyne while on Arsenal's side is Martin Odegaard. So we will see a battle between Haaland and Saka up front. Arsenal will need Bukayo Saka to continue his consistent form. On the other side of the front line, Man City's most notable attacking player is, of course, Erling Haaland. Erling Haaland is still aiming for his 100th goal for Man City in all competitions.