⚽ Premier League 2024/2025 Discussion Thread ⚽

[Pandu Geddon]

In this match, both sides are missing their key midfielders. On Man City's side is Kevin De Bruyne while on Arsenal's side is Martin Odegaard. So we will see a battle between Haaland and Saka up front. Arsenal will need Bukayo Saka to continue his consistent form. On the other side of the front line, Man City's most notable attacking player is, of course, Erling Haaland. Erling Haaland is still aiming for his 100th goal for Man City in all competitions.

Man City did lose De Bruyne, but his role will be replaced by Gundogan and Rodri. Guardiola will probably make a similar game scheme when the second half of Man City faced Inter in the Champions League.
while Arsenal, I think must maximize the role of Declan Rice, Partey, and Saka. However, Man City is an aggressive team in attack. now they are playing in front of their supporters. they will maximize all opportunities.
Haaland opened the scoring in the 9th minute. Arteta must direct his players to get out of the current pressure.

[emrecemsan]

About the decision to send off Palmer at halftime. I think you forgot that, with many players in the squad, they need more minutes to develop. And this is the reason why he was benched at the mid game.

No, I didn't forget it. It is a really difficult fact to forget about.    However I mean that they shouldn't do it with Palmer at least. If he has the energy to play longer then Maresca can just sub someone else off that early.


Manchester City v Arsenal match has been going on wonderful so far!    First Haaland scored and now Calafiori gave an incredible answer. I think this amazing goal is the best start Calafiori could have made in the Premier League.

It is a pleasure to watch Arteta's game against Manchester City all the time. I'm really curious if Guardiola will figure out a way to win this time. He couldn't in their previous 3 head-to-head games.

[hahay]

In this match, both sides are missing their key midfielders. On Man City's side is Kevin De Bruyne while on Arsenal's side is Martin Odegaard. So we will see a battle between Haaland and Saka up front. Arsenal will need Bukayo Saka to continue his consistent form. On the other side of the front line, Man City's most notable attacking player is, of course, Erling Haaland. Erling Haaland is still aiming for his 100th goal for Man City in all competitions.

Man City did lose De Bruyne, but his role will be replaced by Gundogan and Rodri. Guardiola will probably make a similar game scheme when the second half of Man City faced Inter in the Champions League.
while Arsenal, I think must maximize the role of Declan Rice, Partey, and Saka. However, Man City is an aggressive team in attack. now they are playing in front of their supporters. they will maximize all opportunities.
Haaland opened the scoring in the 9th minute. Arteta must direct his players to get out of the current pressure.

Although Haaland managed to score a quick goal in the 9th minute and made it 1-0 but in reality, it did not make Arsenal pessimistic because after all, Arsenal managed to turn things around with two goals made in the 22nd minute and 45+1 and thus, Arsenal managed to win at half time with a score of 2-1. But even so, it looks like Arsenal will still have a difficult task because Leandro Trossard got a red card and thus, Arsenal only played with 10 players for the second half.

With the red card, it will certainly be a big regret for Leandro Trossard if at the end of the match Arsenal failed to maintain the victory he had in the first half. But indeed, because in this Arteta era that Arsenal also became a good team then maybe, Arsenal will maximize their defense in the second half because they only played with 10 players. But for me personally, even though Manchester City are playing at home and seeing the situation and conditions like this, it looks like it will still be difficult for Manchester City to win despite being superior in number of players.

[Pandu Geddon]

Man City did lose De Bruyne, but his role will be replaced by Gundogan and Rodri. Guardiola will probably make a similar game scheme when the second half of Man City faced Inter in the Champions League.
while Arsenal, I think must maximize the role of Declan Rice, Partey, and Saka. However, Man City is an aggressive team in attack. now they are playing in front of their supporters. they will maximize all opportunities.
Haaland opened the scoring in the 9th minute. Arteta must direct his players to get out of the current pressure.

Although Haaland managed to score a quick goal in the 9th minute and made it 1-0 but in reality, it did not make Arsenal pessimistic because after all, Arsenal managed to turn things around with two goals made in the 22nd minute and 45+1 and thus, Arsenal managed to win at half time with a score of 2-1. But even so, it looks like Arsenal will still have a difficult task because Leandro Trossard got a red card and thus, Arsenal only played with 10 players for the second half.

With the red card, it will certainly be a big regret for Leandro Trossard if at the end of the match Arsenal failed to maintain the victory he had in the first half. But indeed, because in this Arteta era that Arsenal also became a good team then maybe, Arsenal will maximize their defense in the second half because they only played with 10 players. But for me personally, even though Manchester City are playing at home and seeing the situation and conditions like this, it looks like it will still be difficult for Manchester City to win despite being superior in number of players.

As you expect, Arsenal have a goal advantage at the moment, but they played with 10 men in the second half. It was not an advantage. But Arteta's strategy of taking Saka off and bringing in Ben White changed the game to a total defense. It made Man City players quite frustrated. They controlled the ball but didn't have many options to play. 10 Arsenal defenders plus 10 Man City players were gathered in Arsenal's defense area. Man City only took shots from outside the penalty box, and if this situation continues, the result will not be good for Man City.

[Jossque]

Brighton drew 2-2 with Nottingham Forest at home. Despite falling behind in the 13th minute with a penalty goal, the home team equalized with about 5 minutes left in the first half and managed to take the lead in the last minutes. Brighton couldn't maintain their 2-1 lead in the first half and conceded the second goal in the 70th minute. I think it was an important 2 points lost for Brighton who had more possession and created more chances than their opponent.

[abhiseshakana]

Man City did lose De Bruyne, but his role will be replaced by Gundogan and Rodri. Guardiola will probably make a similar game scheme when the second half of Man City faced Inter in the Champions League.
while Arsenal, I think must maximize the role of Declan Rice, Partey, and Saka. However, Man City is an aggressive team in attack. now they are playing in front of their supporters. they will maximize all opportunities.
Haaland opened the scoring in the 9th minute. Arteta must direct his players to get out of the current pressure.

Although Haaland managed to score a quick goal in the 9th minute and made it 1-0 but in reality, it did not make Arsenal pessimistic because after all, Arsenal managed to turn things around with two goals made in the 22nd minute and 45+1 and thus, Arsenal managed to win at half time with a score of 2-1. But even so, it looks like Arsenal will still have a difficult task because Leandro Trossard got a red card and thus, Arsenal only played with 10 players for the second half.

With the red card, it will certainly be a big regret for Leandro Trossard if at the end of the match Arsenal failed to maintain the victory he had in the first half. But indeed, because in this Arteta era that Arsenal also became a good team then maybe, Arsenal will maximize their defense in the second half because they only played with 10 players. But for me personally, even though Manchester City are playing at home and seeing the situation and conditions like this, it looks like it will still be difficult for Manchester City to win despite being superior in number of players.

As you expect, Arsenal have a goal advantage at the moment, but they played with 10 men in the second half. It was not an advantage. But Arteta's strategy of taking Saka off and bringing in Ben White changed the game to a total defense. It made Man City players quite frustrated. They controlled the ball but didn't have many options to play. 10 Arsenal defenders plus 10 Man City players were gathered in Arsenal's defense area. Man City only took shots from outside the penalty box, and if this situation continues, the result will not be good for Man City.

Man City was truly frustrated by Arsenal's solid defense. They had tried everything, but that sturdy wall could only be broken down shortly before the match ended. I think it took too long for Guardiola to take Doku out because, in conditions where Arsenal is playing completely defensively, players like Doku will not be effective. What Man City needs is players who can make a through pass or a direct cross into the middle, or the other option, someone who has a good long shot. Unfortunately, 2 players (Kevin De Bruyne and Rodri) who meet these criteria are currently injured, luckily they still have Grealish and Foden who are at least more useful than Doku (with the condition where Arsenal played defensive).

[ajanwalker]

City - Arsenal match ended 2-2, but Arsenal would have won the match very easily if Arsenal had not been down to 10 men.
While the match was 1-2, Trossard received a red card for the second yellow card in the extra time of the first half and Arsenal were down to 10 men. In the second half, City attacked the Arsenal goal for a goal, but Stones scored the goal they were looking for at 90+8. Extra time worked very well for City today. With this draw, City increased its points to 13 and continued its leadership.

[Velvet78]

Man City was truly frustrated by Arsenal's solid defense. They had tried everything, but that sturdy wall could only be broken down shortly before the match ended. I think it took too long for Guardiola to take Doku out because, in conditions where Arsenal is playing completely defensively, players like Doku will not be effective. What Man City needs is players who can make a through pass or a direct cross into the middle, or the other option, someone who has a good long shot. Unfortunately, 2 players (Kevin De Bruyne and Rodri) who meet these criteria are currently injured, luckily they still have Grealish and Foden who are at least more useful than Doku (with the condition where Arsenal played defensive).

Arteta does it really well. He knows how to defend Guardiola's students.    It must be like the fourth game in a row that Arsenal don't lose to Manchester City. Considering all tournaments I mean. If they managed to win this game it would be fantastic. Because they really need more points against their biggest rival in the title competition here.

De Bruyne was absent yeah and Rodri had to leave the field very early. Both of them are game changers. But it can't be an excuse for their having a bad game of course.

Still Manchester City are the top contender for the trophy. It is the reality...

[Fuso.hp]

Today's big match between Man City vs Arsenal.

In terms of H2H, these two teams always compete very tightly in terms of getting 3 points in each meeting and both teams have the same results in 5 meetings. However, if we refer to the previous season, Arsenal always performed well at the beginning of the season and if that happens, I am sure this match can end in a draw or a narrow victory can be obtained by Man City.

Man City odds @1.78
Arsenal @4.80
Draw @3.70

Looking at these odds, bookmakers still believe that Man City victory can happen and a draw is also one of the surprises that could happen. I might choose to bet on under 2.25 to get higher odds because both teams don't want to concede and have a very strong defense.

These kind of matches are always open to surprise results but Manchester City have started the season very well. They won the 4 games they played this season by scoring 11 goals and 9 of the 11 goals were scored by Haaland. This wonderkid has scored almost all of Manchester City's goals. Before the week 5 matches were played, no other team had scored as many goals as him. As a footballer he had surpassed the scoring statistics of every other team. I don't care what happens in today's game, I want Manchester City to win, but I don't care about the result, I hope someone doesn't steal this boy's Balon'd'or again...

Erling Haaland is a great player for Manchester City and he is a great finisher for Manchester City. As you said Manchester City have scored a total of 11 goals in four matches this season and Erling Haaland has scored nine of the eleven goals alone. It's as good as it gets for Manchester City, but worryingly, Arsenal couldn't quite stop Erling Haaland in today's match but managed to put him under a lot of pressure which resulted in him only managing to score one goal. But the performance from the player was not as expected. Manchester City basically took advantage of Arsenal's reduction to 10 men and capitalized on this to draw the match late on.

[Issa56]

Arteta does it really well. He knows how to defend Guardiola's students.   

Arteta played well today. I believed the Trossard red card was the reason why Arsenal couldn’t win the match. Arteta should try and talk to his players, from the way they behave, it’s obvious some of them lack discipline. Most Arsenal fans are claiming the red card isn’t worth it, but I think the referee did the right thing. A player that’s already got a yellow card is supposed to be cautious of his behavior on the field.
 
I noticed some changes in Arsenal this season. I notice that they have been playing more of a defensive game than an attack. Seriously,  I don’t really think that’s the best strategy for Arsenal. When they attack, they create fear in their opponents, and they have more chances of scoring, but when playing a defensive game, there is definitely going to be pressure on them, and their opponents will be confident.
 
Before Arsenal scored their first goal, they were playing more of a defensive game, but after scoring, they had confidence and started attacking, but immediately they received a red card. They went back and were playing a defensive game, pressure was just too much on Arsenal in the second half.

[Accardo]

Brighton drew 2-2 with Nottingham Forest at home. Despite falling behind in the 13th minute with a penalty goal, the home team equalized with about 5 minutes left in the first half and managed to take the lead in the last minutes. Brighton couldn't maintain their 2-1 lead in the first half and conceded the second goal in the 70th minute. I think it was an important 2 points lost for Brighton who had more possession and created more chances than their opponent.

It was a tough game, with both team managers on red cards. Today is my first time experiencing a match that had no coach. However, the players did their best to remain unbeaten in the premier league. Gradually, after the 2-2 score, I didn't expect the game to go beyond that, because they're equally made, no advantage whatsoever was found from any side of teams.

[kawetsriyanto]

City - Arsenal match ended 2-2, but Arsenal would have won the match very easily if Arsenal had not been down to 10 men.

Yep. The match has ended with a draw result.
I don't know why you assume Arsenal will win easily the match if they didn't get a red card. It is Man City, it is impossible to win against them easily even if Arsenal has 11 players in the field. Even the red card really drops the chance to win, but we can't deny that Man City is the strongest team in EPL. However, the credit point is for Arsenal, they struggle well until the end of the match and get 1 point from the match. It is something great to get a point with 10 players against Man City.

While the match was 1-2, Trossard received a red card for the second yellow card in the extra time of the first half and Arsenal were down to 10 men.

Arsenal was not in good luck, it was too bad to get a red card in the first half of the match. With losing 1 player, Man City fully dominated the match. I see Man City even could win the ball possession up to 78% and they made 33 shots. Meanwhile Arsenal only could get 22% ball possession and made 5 shots only. This is like a training match for Man City.

In the second half, City attacked the Arsenal goal for a goal, but Stones scored the goal they were looking for at 90+8. Extra time worked very well for City today. With this draw, City increased its points to 13 and continued its leadership.

The extra time seems quite long, mostly it is under 5 minutes. Sure, it worked well for Man City, they could score in minute 90+8'. And the match ended in 90+10'. Well, this draw makes both teams to get 1 point, Man City remains in the top of the EPL standings. Arsenal dropped to 4th place now, it is under Liverpool and Aston Villa.

[_BlackStar]

The two drama-filled games above ended in a 2-2 draw today. Brighton who were leading 2-1 against Nottingham eventually failed to secure 3 points at home. Ramón Sosa forced Brighton to share the points in the 70th minute with his goal - while Manchester City also drew. As can be seen in the picture above - it was truly the two best games of the week.

I'm not really happy with the draw between Manchester City and Arsenal - but it's a shame, Manchester City are so hard to beat. Even with a few minutes left - Arsenal failed to score the second and final goal from Manchester City in this match. Arsenal were forced to settle for a draw after leading in the first half until a few minutes before the end of the match - clearly a mistake they should avoid when leading.

[Juse14]

City - Arsenal match ended 2-2, but Arsenal would have won the match very easily if Arsenal had not been down to 10 men.
While the match was 1-2, Trossard received a red card for the second yellow card in the extra time of the first half and Arsenal were down to 10 men. In the second half, City attacked the Arsenal goal for a goal, but Stones scored the goal they were looking for at 90+8. Extra time worked very well for City today. With this draw, City increased its points to 13 and continued its leadership.

I sure did not expect Arsenal to be able to take a 2-1 lead in the second half while down to 10 men against Manchester City. They defended magnificently, only finally letting in a goal in the dying minutes which made it 2-2. The next game for them against Liverpool will really prove how serious contenders they are. To move third, at least they have to win that game or draw and remain fourth. But displacing Aston Villa seems quite tough; more so because Villa are likely to win against Ipswich in their next match and that may lift them into second place on the table.

If, however, Arsenal cannot beat Liverpool, or at least draw with them, then the story will be quite different. They could be in danger of dropping from fourth place, and this is where the pressure comes into play regarding the teams below them; the kind of pressure that can see them drop out of fourth spot especially with other teams breathing down their necks and also in good form. Liverpool is a team always tough to get points from which means if Arsenal does not get points they might lose ground on momentum standing-wise.

[Nheer]

City - Arsenal match ended 2-2, but Arsenal would have won the match very easily if Arsenal had not been down to 10 men.
While the match was 1-2, Trossard received a red card for the second yellow card in the extra time of the first half and Arsenal were down to 10 men. In the second half, City attacked the Arsenal goal for a goal, but Stones scored the goal they were looking for at 90+8. Extra time worked very well for City today. With this draw, City increased its points to 13 and continued its leadership.

Very easily you say? I doubt if it would have been an easy win for Arsenal without a red card. Manchester City had more goal attempts in the first half which means they were more in control of the game until Arsenal equalized and added a second goal and even at that City were still in control. The red card was at the end of the first half so it affected the performance of Arsenal players and they have to try and defend their lead which gave Manchester City more confidence to keep attacking until they succeeded in scoring an equalizer and shared the points at Etihad Stadium. It is so unfortunate that Arsenal had to suffer like this and still concede at stoppage time.

[Ryu_Ar1]

Manchester City v Arsenal match has been going on wonderful so far!    First Haaland scored and now Calafiori gave an incredible answer. I think this amazing goal is the best start Calafiori could have made in the Premier League.

It is a pleasure to watch Arteta's game against Manchester City all the time. I'm really curious if Guardiola will figure out a way to win this time. He couldn't in their previous 3 head-to-head games.

It was a speculative shot but it was very much on target which made it a good goal for Calafiori whose debut goal was quite beautiful for Arsenal
Arsenal immediately changed the scheme of the game after losing 1 point and actually the defense was quite good although indeed their concentration broke down during extra time which allowed Manchester City to get 1 point in today's match.

Regardless of how Arteta planned this match, I was honestly quite entertained even though Arsenal's focus was on defense but it didn't make the match boring because we could see their determination to keep the points was very good even though in the end it failed.
Actually I expected one of them to lose this match but seeing what they showed then I can say that this 1 point is worthy of Manchester City and Arsenal.

[Akbarkoe]

Brighton drew 2-2 with Nottingham Forest at home. Despite falling behind in the 13th minute with a penalty goal, the home team equalized with about 5 minutes left in the first half and managed to take the lead in the last minutes. Brighton couldn't maintain their 2-1 lead in the first half and conceded the second goal in the 70th minute. I think it was an important 2 points lost for Brighton who had more possession and created more chances than their opponent.

I noticed that although Brighton had more possession than Nottingham Forest, Nottingham Forest showed that they can score goals without having to play a lot of the ball, this shows that the quality of the offense done by the Nottingham forest squad deserves appreciation because they managed to make Brighton not get a victory with their power to play the ball.

City - Arsenal match ended 2-2, but Arsenal would have won the match very easily if Arsenal had not been down to 10 men.
While the match was 1-2, Trossard received a red card for the second yellow card in the extra time of the first half and Arsenal were down to 10 men. In the second half, City attacked the Arsenal goal for a goal, but Stones scored the goal they were looking for at 90+8. Extra time worked very well for City today. With this draw, City increased its points to 13 and continued its leadership.

Yes, since Trossard was taken off the field Arsenal didn't have much effort in counterattacking and playing the ball more, actually this is an interesting game if Trossard was not taken off, it might be true as you said that it would be an easy victory for Arsenal because they took the lead before the situation was reversed in the last minutes of the second half which ended with a draw, even though I know Arteta is fully focused on playing defense but still they conceded and had to give Man City an equalizer goal.

[legendbtc]

In this match, both sides are missing their key midfielders. On Man City's side is Kevin De Bruyne while on Arsenal's side is Martin Odegaard. So we will see a battle between Haaland and Saka up front. Arsenal will need Bukayo Saka to continue his consistent form. On the other side of the front line, Man City's most notable attacking player is, of course, Erling Haaland. Erling Haaland is still aiming for his 100th goal for Man City in all competitions.

Man City did lose De Bruyne, but his role will be replaced by Gundogan and Rodri. Guardiola will probably make a similar game scheme when the second half of Man City faced Inter in the Champions League.
while Arsenal, I think must maximize the role of Declan Rice, Partey, and Saka. However, Man City is an aggressive team in attack. now they are playing in front of their supporters. they will maximize all opportunities.
Haaland opened the scoring in the 9th minute. Arteta must direct his players to get out of the current pressure.

Although Haaland managed to score a quick goal in the 9th minute and made it 1-0 but in reality, it did not make Arsenal pessimistic because after all, Arsenal managed to turn things around with two goals made in the 22nd minute and 45+1 and thus, Arsenal managed to win at half time with a score of 2-1. But even so, it looks like Arsenal will still have a difficult task because Leandro Trossard got a red card and thus, Arsenal only played with 10 players for the second half.

With the red card, it will certainly be a big regret for Leandro Trossard if at the end of the match Arsenal failed to maintain the victory he had in the first half. But indeed, because in this Arteta era that Arsenal also became a good team then maybe, Arsenal will maximize their defense in the second half because they only played with 10 players. But for me personally, even though Manchester City are playing at home and seeing the situation and conditions like this, it looks like it will still be difficult for Manchester City to win despite being superior in number of players.

So with a classy goal against Arsenal, Man City striker Erling Haaland has officially reached the milestone of 100 goals for Man City club. Haaland has equaled Cristiano Ronaldo's record for the fastest time to score 100 goals for a club.

Trossard's dismissal just minutes before half-time caused controversy. Arsenal fans question why Michael Oliver did not book Doku. Did the referee team in charge of the match make the right decision?
I saw Man City trying and thought Guardiola's team would lose at home. It took until the last minute of injury time for Man City to find the equalizer at 2-2 with Arsenal. It was a shame for Ten-man Arsenal to drop the win against Man City in the last minute of injury time. Anyway, with one point in round 5 of the Premier League, Man City still maintains the top position with 13 points after 5 matches. Arsenal dropped to 4th place with 11 points, behind Man City, Liverpool and Aston Villa.

[blue Snow]

Yes, since Trossard was taken off the field Arsenal didn't have much effort in counterattacking and playing the ball more, actually this is an interesting game if Trossard was not taken off, it might be true as you said that it would be an easy victory for Arsenal because they took the lead before the situation was reversed in the last minutes of the second half which ended with a draw, even though I know Arteta is fully focused on playing defense but still they conceded and had to give Man City an equalizer goal.

Basic experience from what I watched in previous matches it's very difficult to survive if Manchester City is ready to attack all out the defense. Arsenal should have continued to attack, not only survive to make the city doesn't focus on attacking. But so far, Arsenal is quite good especially David Raya who has very concentrated to block the ball into the goal. Strategy pretending injured also are unable to maintain their score 1-2 so that situation must be a correction for Arteta to not repeat it again in the next match.

[JeffBrad12]

Brighton drew 2-2 with Nottingham Forest at home. Despite falling behind in the 13th minute with a penalty goal, the home team equalized with about 5 minutes left in the first half and managed to take the lead in the last minutes. Brighton couldn't maintain their 2-1 lead in the first half and conceded the second goal in the 70th minute. I think it was an important 2 points lost for Brighton who had more possession and created more chances than their opponent.

Brighton walked away with 1 point, and they dropped 2 points. Their defense was so sloppy defending in the late game. They were also showing how they struggled against Nottingham's low-block strategy. They have no one with the skill set to break down their opponent's deep defence.

They fought back well in the first half after a poor 40 minutes. They scored their two goals after escaping their poor play. Their poor defence at the second half let their opponent equalize the score.

Although they got a draw against Nottingham, they still keep their unbeaten record. Their defense needs to improve to beat Chelsea in their next game at Stamford Bridge.