⚽ Premier League 2024/2025 Discussion Thread ⚽

[Mehmet69]

I Respect what you say but that's not the idea, The idea was to have won but they didn't achieve it I don't think they'll finish 4th if they continue like this They're going to look bad anyway they have Liverpool, they have City, Newcastle, who is hungry the team is lacking and lacking As a MU fan, I would be Worried.

It's too early to judge anything, we'll see at least until mid-season. We'll see what the amorins prove after the big signings they made in the summer transfer window.

Liverpool, Manchteser city, Arsenal, Chelsea and Newcastle are currently the paprit teams to be able to compete in the top flight, but what needs to be remembered is that these teams have a fairly busy match schedule, because in addition they have to fight in the primary league, but they also have to fight in the champions league. and if the paprit teams fail to maintain the consistency and performance of their players behind a busy match schedule, then this is an opportunity for man united to be able to enter the top of the table competition.

Back to the arsenal VS Man united match, indeed in that match the red devils failed to score a single goal against arsenal, but seeing how the game they showed in that match, I saw a glimmer of hope that man united could perform even better.

Yes, I completely agree with you. It would be too early to expect too much from any team. Because the season has just started. This season we have seen many new and young players being signed. We have seen many big players being included in different teams.

Liverpool, City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Newcastle, all are in very strong positions and we will see a lot of competition between them. Liverpool are looking much stronger than last season. But the busy schedule seems to put their players under pressure. But Man City on the other hand are pretty even. They have a lot of experienced players in their team. Because of this, there is no flaw in their performance. And I think they will still do very well.

Arsenal, Chelsea, Newcastle need to think a little bit about their situation. Because they have signed a lot of new players. The new players have talent but lack experience. They may need a little more time to gain this experience. If they can work hard this season, they may be able to give us a desired game. But Man United are trying to play a little trick. They are trying to give their best performance from the beginning. Their game is improving. It seems that when the big teams get tired of fighting among themselves, Man United will start their game. If that happens, then it can be said that this time there is no one to beat Man United.

But it is very difficult to say when what happens on the field of play. So only a little more time will tell which team is in which position.

[_BlackStar]

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Manchester United hosting Arsenal at Old Trafford on first matchday for both sides, this was a crucial game and winning was expected from both sides but unluckily for the Red Devils, they settled for defeats which is weigh out of the picture. Ruben Amorim men come out and play good football but no evidence to show for it since they're battered and stopped by the formidable defendlines of the visitors.

Mikel Arteta and his men had just one target, a win win situation was all they privatized for and they captivated their scoring opportunity in the first halve. In the second halve, Gunners got under pressure and couldn't slash their chance, they fought for defensive display but was it good enough? Oh yeah we see how determined and fierce they were in the defenseless. Arsenal are competitors and EPL title contenders this season.

Statistically, we all know that Manchester United dominated the match - they just couldn't score despite having several good chances. Arsenal only managed one goal in the first half and couldn't add another until the end of the match. Manchester United tried very hard - but unfortunately, they failed despite having 22 shots, 7 of which were on target.

Arsenal have been title contenders in recent seasons - but they haven't been serious. Liverpool have tended to be more successful than Arsenal - certainly because only Liverpool have been able to stop Manchester City's title-winning streak. Arsenal are a great team - but they haven't been able to win the Premier League title due to poor performances towards the end of the season.

[Adbitco]

It's a shame Man United didn't even earn a point. They played decently and created a lot of scoring chances.
They dominated in every aspect of the game except for the most important one: goals.
Then again, an early goal for Arsenal has set them more defensively, so who knows how the game would look if they decided to keep pressing for more goals. But judging by what we've seen, I think it's fair to say Man United was a better team. Are they capable of fighting for the championship? Probably not, but the top 5 is within their reach.

First time on a while I'm seeing Manchester United played so well against Arsenal. This time around I was even thinking that they will still win even after the goal from Arsenal but they disappointed despite all their dominance. Before now, Manchester United will play bad and still score against Arsenal, there last two meetings had ended in a 1 - 1 draw which meant that Manchester United didn't succumb to defeat despite been outplayed but this time around that they outplayed Arsenal they still failed to score and still lost at the end of it.

[Balmain]

It's a shame Man United didn't even earn a point. They played decently and created a lot of scoring chances.
They dominated in every aspect of the game except for the most important one: goals.
Then again, an early goal for Arsenal has set them more defensively, so who knows how the game would look if they decided to keep pressing for more goals. But judging by what we've seen, I think it's fair to say Man United was a better team. Are they capable of fighting for the championship? Probably not, but the top 5 is within their reach.

I don't think reaching the top five will be easy. Yes, they played well, not badly. Perhaps if Arsenal hadn't scored early and then retreated to defense, Manchester United would have created more opportunities, created more openings, and scored. The early goal and the misplaced goal they conceded meant they couldn't even pick up a point. Manchester United needs to aim for the top five now, and I hope they can achieve that this season.

[logfiles]

Statistically, we all know that Manchester United dominated the match - they just couldn't score despite having several good chances. Arsenal only managed one goal in the first half and couldn't add another until the end of the match. Manchester United tried very hard - but unfortunately, they failed despite having 22 shots, 7 of which were on target.

That is the beauty about football. I recall Arsenal being in the same position Manchester United were in yesterday. They would play all their hearts out, only for United to grab a winner with some random late goal by off form Lingard 

Arsenal have been title contenders in recent seasons - but they haven't been serious. Liverpool have tended to be more successful than Arsenal - certainly because only Liverpool have been able to stop Manchester City's title-winning streak. Arsenal are a great team - but they haven't been able to win the Premier League title due to poor performances towards the end of the season.

They haven't been consistent enough. The only way of having an assured title win is to be consistent throughout the season and most importantly, convincingly beat all the top contenders

[Agbe]

It's a shame Man United didn't even earn a point. They played decently and created a lot of scoring chances.
They dominated in every aspect of the game except for the most important one: goals.
Then again, an early goal for Arsenal has set them more defensively, so who knows how the game would look if they decided to keep pressing for more goals. But judging by what we've seen, I think it's fair to say Man United was a better team. Are they capable of fighting for the championship? Probably not, but the top 5 is within their reach.

I don't think reaching the top five will be easy. Yes, they played well, not badly. Perhaps if Arsenal hadn't scored early and then retreated to defense, Manchester United would have created more opportunities, created more openings, and scored. The early goal and the misplaced goal they conceded meant they couldn't even pick up a point. Manchester United needs to aim for the top five now, and I hope they can achieve that this season.

Let see how united will fare this season but a top five finish will be a very difficult one for this united team because they are still in the rebuilding stage which is still a difficult stage for them because the United team that I saw against arsenal still has a long way to go especially scoring goals which is key when it comes to winning games

[Adbitco]

The Everton Vs Leeds game is heading towards full time draw game as I had earlier anticipated that it will happen. Most Monday night games always ends in a draw or a narrow 1 - 0 win in some cases. I will not be surprised if it ends in 0 - 0 or a 1 - 0 score line.

[Agbe]

The Everton Vs Leeds game is heading towards full time draw game as I had earlier anticipated that it will happen. Most Monday night games always ends in a draw or a narrow 1 - 0 win in some cases. I will not be surprised if it ends in 0 - 0 or a 1 - 0 score line.

Leeds scored a very crucial goal through the penalty spot as Nmeche scored from the penalty spot to put leeds infront to take all three points as leeds united recorded their first win of the season but for everton not a good way to start because their struggle of last season may likely continue this season withe the way that they performed today

[Silikiem]

First Liverpool in Community Shield Trophy now Chelsea in first game of season Crystal Palace is surely going to be team to watch in this coming season because they are giving their best in these early games their defense and attack is having good balance.

Chelsea with greater ball possession not able to have any advantage which is good work from Crystal Palace because it's never been easy to have performance against a team which is winner of Club World Cup and playing at home. In second game of the day, Nottingham Forest is also doing good job and leading game by score of 3–1 against Brighton a good start for them challenges are waiting to them in coming games.

The game between Chelsea and crystal palace ended in a goalless draw at Stamford bridge, it shows how keenly the game is being contested among the two teams whom I think are really in a good form currently considering that the both side have played in two finals and have recently won two trophies amongst them within the last few months, for me it was a good game for the both side, although Chelsea dominated major part of the game but crystal palace sticked to their game plan and held Chelsea to a Draw game. Although crystal palace had a goal which was overturned by the VAR. Chelsea would have hoped to win their first game of the season in Stamford bridge but crystal palace defended well and make sure they get a share of the point at Stamford Bridge.

I’m just wondering why people aren’t talking about the sloppiness of this Chelsea team, a so called World Champions couldn’t defeat a team that finished in a second half of the premier league table, the attack was Shambolic, Joao Pedro was not making any impact in the game he lacked that decision making, it was surprising to me for a player who have been playing in the Premier League to be that awful in attack, And Cole Palmer wasn’t good enough in that game he was bad at his final passes, and why is people not talking about his poor Performance in the Premier League, Cole Palmer is yet to score and open Premier League goal for 8 months now, is that who should be considered for a Balon’ D Or nomination, I absolutely think he doesn’t deserve that nomination, I absolutely think he is just an overhyped English player, and he deserves to be Criticized by the English media, and they will not because he is one of their own, Should I be talking about Gittens and Estevao well all i can say to them is welcome to the Premier League, Chelsea have to understand that Winning the Club World Cup is different from Premier League which seems to me like a Pre-Season Tournament. Premier League isn’t Pre-Season. And how can you be called a World Champion when the Champion of England, Spain, Italy wasn’t even there. This Chelsea team I doubt would be able to qualify from the group stage of the UEFA Champions League.

I don’t know why some persons base their comments with biased opinions and sentimental reasoning simply because you’re not a supporter of the club. I mean, the season just get started and it’s really too early to crucify a particular team that doesn’t even lost the game, they played out a goalless draw and for me it’s a good result for this Chelsea team against crystal palace team who are really really in a good form currently. This crystal palace team towards the end of last season beat Manchester city in the finals of the FA cup and won the trophy at the expense of Manchester city who were the premier league defending champions as at then, and again at the very start of this season this same crystal palace team beat Liverpool who are the current premier league champions to the Community Shield final and won the trophy at the expense of Liverpool, even with Liverpool fielding their British record signing Florian Wirtz playing all 90 minutes of the game along side their other expensive record summer signings, they couldn’t beat this crystal palace team to the community shield trophy. So currently, this crystal palace team is in possession of two major trophies just like Chelsea who also won two major trophies last season and they both had a season to remember last season. With this kind of stats displayed by this two teams and coming to meet each other in their respective first match of the season in this current premier league season, one should expect a very tough game and yes, the goalless draw they played justified it all. So kudos to both teams for sharing the three points. Football without sentiment.

[MK-74]

Ederson is soon signing for Galatasaray. He's already said yes. The fee is being discussed. If this transfer is completed then Manchester City is going for Donnarumma officially. Honestly it'd be a great deal for them. 

I hope what you said comes true because we’re waiting for Ederson. As a team, everything is ready, the only issue is the goalkeeper, and I think we’ll solve it with Ederson.
If we can agree on the transfer fee with Man City, our squad will be complete.
We’ll also be ready for the Champions League.
Man City has already bought a goalkeeper, and Ederson wasn’t included in the squad in the last match, which I think was a signal that he will be sold.
Whether they buy Donnarumma or not doesn’t concern us. 

[Franctoshi]

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Manchester United hosting Arsenal at Old Trafford on first matchday for both sides, this was a crucial game and winning was expected from both sides but unluckily for the Red Devils, they settled for defeats which is weigh out of the picture. Ruben Amorim men come out and play good football but no evidence to show for it since they're battered and stopped by the formidable defendlines of the visitors.

Mikel Arteta and his men had just one target, a win win situation was all they privatized for and they captivated their scoring opportunity in the first halve. In the second halve, Gunners got under pressure and couldn't slash their chance, they fought for defensive display but was it good enough? Oh yeah we see how determined and fierce they were in the defenseless. Arsenal are competitors and EPL title contenders this season.

Statistically, we all know that Manchester United dominated the match - they just couldn't score despite having several good chances. Arsenal only managed one goal in the first half and couldn't add another until the end of the match. Manchester United tried very hard - but unfortunately, they failed despite having 22 shots, 7 of which were on target.

Arsenal have been title contenders in recent seasons - but they haven't been serious. Liverpool have tended to be more successful than Arsenal - certainly because only Liverpool have been able to stop Manchester City's title-winning streak. Arsenal are a great team - but they haven't been able to win the Premier League title due to poor performances towards the end of the season.

Would I join to say it's poor performance? Because in the last couple of seasons, Arsenal have had a decent performance but rather their problem can be tagged as not really being serious in their pursuit of the Premier league title over the recent past two seasons and in a broader view about two decades plus. If you compared Liverpool and Arsenal last season, isn't that Liverpool were way far better than Arsenal but Liverpool was serious in their pursuit and stayed focused.

[Issa56]

Leeds scored a very crucial goal through the penalty spot as Nmeche scored from the penalty spot to put leeds infront to take all three points as leeds united recorded their first win of the season but for everton not a good way to start because their struggle of last season may likely continue this season withe the way that they performed today

I wasn’t opportune to work the match, but when the match ended, I decide to check who won the match, and I saw that Leeds were able to score a goal towards the ending of the match, and they dominated the match also, seriously am just surprise because I was thinking Everton will be the one to win the match. Am just impress with the way the teams that got promoted to premier league are performing, they really want to stay in the premier league, and I won’t be surprise that most of the teams that got promoted to the premier league will end up staying in the league.

[Distraction]

I also don't understand the greed by Manchester City... They've already signed James Trafford for 30m euros. They have a backup goalkeeper who is Ortega also.

Then why are they going for Donnarumma too?    I don't think Trafford would be happy about giving his starting eleven place to him.

I'd rather see Manchester United going for the Italian goalkeeper as they need the most now.

[EL MOHA]

I don't think reaching the top five will be easy. Yes, they played well, not badly. Perhaps if Arsenal hadn't scored early and then retreated to defense, Manchester United would have created more opportunities, created more openings, and scored. The early goal and the misplaced goal they conceded meant they couldn't even pick up a point. Manchester United needs to aim for the top five now, and I hope they can achieve that this season.

Manchester United realistic objective this season is a top five finish let’s not get carried way though but I expect Manchester United to actually achieve this result if they can keep up with this performance. This is there first official game together and seriously the new signings were brilliant, had they been with a striker for the starting of the game I seriously think there will be more impact most especially the balls into the box in the first half, I understand many people think they should have scored but this Arsenal defense are one of the best in the whole of Europe over the last three seasons, so against a less compact side I think it will be victory for Manchester United.

Now this first game highlighted the two major crisis that Manchester United might face through out this season and it’s the Defense or central midfielder role, Casemiro was brilliant in the game, we clearly saw he couldn’t carry on for long and Urgate as his replacement was as good as him which gave Arsenal more chances then. A signing like Baleba will great for the team. Then second problem is the goalkeeping problem, I don’t understand why Manchester United weren’t all out for Donnarumma this season since his crisis with PSG. Without a new goalkeeper Manchester United will end up losing points that they shouldn’t seriously

[kawetsriyanto]

Statistically, we all know that Manchester United dominated the match - they just couldn't score despite having several good chances. Arsenal only managed one goal in the first half and couldn't add another until the end of the match. Manchester United tried very hard - but unfortunately, they failed despite having 22 shots, 7 of which were on target.

When I looked at the match statistics, I almost couldn't believe that Man United actually dominated Arsenal that much. In fact, they dominated several times, not only in possession but also in attack numbers. Even though Arsenal did win, this should be a concern for Arteta for all future evaluations, so they don't find themselves in a worrying position throughout the match.

Fortunately, Calafiori's lone goal secured a valuable victory; otherwise, they would have been roasted and mocked even more, especially since Arsenal had played the full match with several of their top-tier players.

[Lidger]

We saw Mbeumo - Mount - Cunha trio in the attacking line today. I was waiting for Sesko on the front though. I can't say the general performance of the Red Devils was bad. They played quite well actually.

The only player I didn't like was Altay Bayindir. They conceded that goal because of his own mistake.    They could have got at least one point. But they should have been able score at least a single goal after all those attempts too...

MU played more entertaining today. The problem is they get bad result compared to their results last season. They always got draws against Arsenal in last seasons. Hard to call it's an improvement considering they're improved a bit in term of gameplay, but downgraded in the result.

As for Bayindir, yeah it was his mistake, but he's also performing consistently in this game. His club could conceded a few goals if he's not also performing quite consistent in this game. He needs to improve asap as his club's defense is still quite shaky.
He's also helping the club with his on point long pas. However, he's not good enough, and i'm doubting them to sign his replacement at this point.

Manchester United performed well in almost every match against Arsenal last season and they bought several players in this season's transfer window to increase their strength so before the match started I thought maybe they would compete hard against Arsenal and they could win but they lost against Arsenal. Although there was a lot of controversy about it after losing by a goal. Manchester United had enough possession for the whole match but when they got into finishing positions they got confused and could not finish the ball well. I would say that Manchester United had more chances than Arsenal in the last match but they could not use those chances due to which they ended up losing the match. This is the first match of the season so Manchester United cannot be so disappointed now, the Red Devils had a clear mistake in the strike position so they must work on improving that position.

[Jostern]

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Manchester United hosting Arsenal at Old Trafford on first matchday for both sides, this was a crucial game and winning was expected from both sides but unluckily for the Red Devils, they settled for defeats which is weigh out of the picture. Ruben Amorim men come out and play good football but no evidence to show for it since they're battered and stopped by the formidable defendlines of the visitors.

Mikel Arteta and his men had just one target, a win win situation was all they privatized for and they captivated their scoring opportunity in the first halve. In the second halve, Gunners got under pressure and couldn't slash their chance, they fought for defensive display but was it good enough? Oh yeah we see how determined and fierce they were in the defenseless. Arsenal are competitors and EPL title contenders this season.

Statistically, we all know that Manchester United dominated the match - they just couldn't score despite having several good chances. Arsenal only managed one goal in the first half and couldn't add another until the end of the match. Manchester United tried very hard - but unfortunately, they failed despite having 22 shots, 7 of which were on target.

Arsenal have been title contenders in recent seasons - but they haven't been serious. Liverpool have tended to be more successful than Arsenal - certainly because only Liverpool have been able to stop Manchester City's title-winning streak. Arsenal are a great team - but they haven't been able to win the Premier League title due to poor performances towards the end of the season.

Would I join to say it's poor performance? Because in the last couple of seasons, Arsenal have had a decent performance but rather their problem can be tagged as not really being serious in their pursuit of the Premier league title over the recent past two seasons and in a broader view about two decades plus. If you compared Liverpool and Arsenal last season, isn't that Liverpool were way far better than Arsenal but Liverpool was serious in their pursuit and stayed focused.

In my opinion it was a very poor performance, A team that wants to win the Premier League wouldn’t play the way Arsenal played against Manchester United. And they were just lucky not to have conceded against Manchester United, Manchester United was the better team in the game, well the season is too early for Arsenal to score a goal and start defending their one goal advantage, I think this was one of the reasons they lost the premier league in previous seasons, now the difference between Arsenal and Liverpool and Manchester City is they will not sit back and defend they will go all out to score another goal instead of sitting back to defend, Liverpool was far better than Arsenal last season and that is why they have so many points advantage against them last season, If Arsenal continue to play this way they will not be able to win the league, because they will have to meet so many teams that plays a low blocks. Arsenal played so many draws last season because of playing this defensive style of football.

[Barikui1]

In my opinion it was a very poor performance, A team that wants to win the Premier League wouldn’t play the way Arsenal played against Manchester United. And they were just lucky not to have conceded against Manchester United, Manchester United was the better team in the game, well the season is too early for Arsenal to score a goal and start defending their one goal advantage, I think this was one of the reasons they lost the premier league in previous seasons, now the difference between Arsenal and Liverpool and Manchester City is they will not sit back and defend they will go all out to score another goal instead of sitting back to defend, Liverpool was far better than Arsenal last season and that is why they have so many points advantage against them last season, If Arsenal continue to play this way they will not be able to win the league, because they will have to meet so many teams that plays a low blocks. Arsenal played so many draws last season because of playing this defensive style of football.

I wouldn't necessarily say that the performance of arsenal against Manchester united was a poor performance because the goal was to secure the desired three points, not a fancy performance as most folks out there expected it to be, yes it's actually true that they can't play like that against a smaller opposition because they must come out attacking if they want the whole three points, but that's by the way.
This season I wouldn't be judging any of the top teams just yet because in the first round of matches, not all of the top side met a top team, the opponent of arsenal and Chelsea are way more stronger than the opposition of Manchester city and that of Liverpool, so after the first five games, that's when I can say that this or that team is better than this one or that one.

[Adbitco]

Yes, I completely agree with you. It would be too early to expect too much from any team. Because the season has just started. This season we have seen many new and young players being signed. We have seen many big players being included in different teams.

Liverpool, City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Newcastle, all are in very strong positions and we will see a lot of competition between them. Liverpool are looking much stronger than last season. But the busy schedule seems to put their players under pressure. But Man City on the other hand are pretty even. They have a lot of experienced players in their team. Because of this, there is no flaw in their performance. And I think they will still do very well.

Arsenal, Chelsea, Newcastle need to think a little bit about their situation. Because they have signed a lot of new players. The new players have talent but lack experience. They may need a little more time to gain this experience. If they can work hard this season, they may be able to give us a desired game. But Man United are trying to play a little trick. They are trying to give their best performance from the beginning. Their game is improving. It seems that when the big teams get tired of fighting among themselves, Man United will start their game. If that happens, then it can be said that this time there is no one to beat Man United.

But it is very difficult to say when what happens on the field of play. So only a little more time will tell which team is in which position.

I still don't know why people are already expecting too much from these teams already. They league just started and they have all played only one game in the league phase, remaining 37 matches which is still a long time from now. But the this, we are all doing prediction and these predictions are based on the level of signings the teams made during the transfer window.

[SmartCharpa]

I still don't know why people are already expecting too much from these teams already. They league just started and they have all played only one game in the league phase, remaining 37 matches which is still a long time from now. But the this, we are all doing prediction and these predictions are based on the level of signings the teams made during the transfer window.

The problem is that we expected the team's performance based on the huge amount of money they spent on recruiting players during the transfer window. People believe players who have been signed for more than €50 million to perform well in the first match of the season. Before the season, Chelsea fans expected João Pedro to be the best striker and Jackson to leave the club this summer. But after the game against Crystal Palace, some fans believe Jackson should stay.

However, I agree with you that there are still games to play, this is just the start of the season, and we never know what the future weeks will bring. The guys that Manchester United signed performed well in their first game, and Gyokeres had zero shots on target against a team he rejected, I wouldn't say he played badly because Arsena overall performance in the first game was poor.