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November 14, 2023, 04:55:52 PM
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I dont overanalyze the phase groups on european sub torunaments like Europa League and Conference, because some big teams play with less effort or in some times with subs, so it can change so much when they are in the final stages of the tournament, and taht teams gears up a lot.

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November 14, 2023, 05:03:20 PM
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We can say already that Ajax are done in the Europa League this season. Losing against Brighton 2 times in a row brought their end. They still have a mathematical chance of course but isn't much realistic considering how many points Marseille and Brighton have collected so far.

They need Brighton to lose their remaining matches while they are winning against Marseille away and AEK home. I can't trust this Ajax even in that AEK match honestly. They just need to regain their strength as soon as possible. They had better focus on the Eredivisie with everything they have got to finish the season in a decent place.
Honestly, Ajax had a very difficult group, I understand them not getting it. I feel like a third place would make sense for them, not sure if third place goes to conference league like how in UCL third place goes to europa, but if that is the case then it's fine, they will keep on fighting. Think about it, we are talking about both Brighton, who are having a great season, and Marseille, which is not a bad team at all. So when you combine those two together, it becomes obvious that they are going to end up not being in the top two.

Ajax could have, I mean not like it would be impossible, but they are having a bad season, their league is not that awesome neither, not too bad though, so it's understandable that they would finish the group third place. Fourth place would be difficult to handle though, that is not really all that fair and I think it is going to end up being a little different and difficult for them to handle in the end.

Ajax being in a tough group while they are in bad form is something understandable that they did not qualify for the knockout stages of the Europa League. Brighton and Marseille are both strong teams. I think it's not a surprise that Ajax will be eliminated, They were simply outclassed by the other teams in their group. they need to focus on their league and fix their situation, unless they are gonna be getting worse.

it would be unfair to see Ajax finish in fourth place. They are a great club which is expected to progress from the group stage. but they only have them self to blame for anything will happen.

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November 14, 2023, 05:25:56 PM
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We can say already that Ajax are done in the Europa League this season. Losing against Brighton 2 times in a row brought their end. They still have a mathematical chance of course but isn't much realistic considering how many points Marseille and Brighton have collected so far.
They need Brighton to lose their remaining matches while they are winning against Marseille away and AEK home. I can't trust this Ajax even in that AEK match honestly. They just need to regain their strength as soon as possible. They had better focus on the Eredivisie with everything they have got to finish the season in a decent place.
Honestly, Ajax had a very difficult group, I understand them not getting it. I feel like a third place would make sense for them, not sure if third place goes to conference league like how in UCL third place goes to europa, but if that is the case then it's fine, they will keep on fighting. Think about it, we are talking about both Brighton, who are having a great season, and Marseille, which is not a bad team at all. So when you combine those two together, it becomes obvious that they are going to end up not being in the top two.
Ajax could have, I mean not like it would be impossible, but they are having a bad season, their league is not that awesome neither, not too bad though, so it's understandable that they would finish the group third place. Fourth place would be difficult to handle though, that is not really all that fair and I think it is going to end up being a little different and difficult for them to handle in the end.
Ajax being in a tough group while they are in bad form is something understandable that they did not qualify for the knockout stages of the Europa League. Brighton and Marseille are both strong teams. I think it's not a surprise that Ajax will be eliminated, They were simply outclassed by the other teams in their group. they need to focus on their league and fix their situation, unless they are gonna be getting worse.
it would be unfair to see Ajax finish in fourth place. They are a great club which is expected to progress from the group stage. but they only have them self to blame for anything will happen.

Firstly Ajax's group Marseille and Brighton are very strong. And secondly, Ajax is not in good form now. If Ajax were in good form then every match in Group B would be very competitive. But Ajax is not in good form. Therefore, they did not have to build any resistance against Marseille and Brighton.

It is also much harder to predict which team will top the table between Marseille and Brighton. Their next match in Marseille will be against Ajax. With Ajax in poor form right now, it is highly unlikely that they will win against Marseille. Who will top Group B will be decided after the match of Brighton vs Marseille on December 15.

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November 14, 2023, 06:23:21 PM
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Leverkusen is definitely going pass the group stage of the Europa this season as they have won all four game so far and have the heights point I'm their group already for me I don't see the remaining two games they have to play as any challenge for them as they are currently in the best form to successfully win those fixtures.
Bayern Leverkusen have been is really good form so far both in the bundesliga and Europa league, their performance so far is awesome and from the look of things they might possibly make it to the finals and am hinting at either AS Roma or Liverpool to also reach the finals as well.

Marseille tho unbeaten in the Europa they have continually performed poorly in their domestic league making it feel like they are much better with the Europa than their domestic league, but then when other teams from the UCL will be joining them it's most likely they may not be able to stay much long enough because the competition will become more tensed than it has been at the group stage were the played against teams with relatively equal strength and some weaker than they are. Mourinho's team has been too inconsistent to really speculate how well they will perform in the Europa.

I don't think Marseille will make it far in the champions league but however they have been in good form in the Europa league but I just have this natural feeling that they might not really reach the final because i dont see them putting more energy in their matches though their group are more or less teams that they are stronger than hence their level of success so far. Though brighton is also a threat in that group but nevertheless I see the both clubs qualifying for the next round.











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November 14, 2023, 06:42:35 PM
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Firstly Ajax's group Marseille and Brighton are very strong. And secondly, Ajax is not in good form now. If Ajax were in good form then every match in Group B would be very competitive. But Ajax is not in good form. Therefore, they did not have to build any resistance against Marseille and Brighton.

It is also much harder to predict which team will top the table between Marseille and Brighton. Their next match in Marseille will be against Ajax. With Ajax in poor form right now, it is highly unlikely that they will win against Marseille. Who will top Group B will be decided after the match of Brighton vs Marseille on December 15.
Ajax are 12th position in the Eredivisie league and they're bottom in Europa Group B. The team have suffered crucial struggles and it's entirely a total disappointment for the team and the fans. I'm not surprised to see Ajax bottom because they've clearly shown absolutely poor form against their opposition this season, a very tough scene to watch these players facing challenges which they're unable to deal with, good performance brings excellent results. However, John van't Schip is incharge and he's keen on making the team a better place to enjoy good football.

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November 14, 2023, 06:43:50 PM
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Real Betis only needs 1 more win to qualify from group C and their next opponent is Sparta Prague. Actually, the difference in points between these two teams is quite different from 5 points and in the previous meeting, Real Betis lost to Sparta Prague. This should be a place for revenge for the previous defeat and even though this is an away match, Real Betis will definitely still be favored to win. However, if Sparta Prague loses this match then they will lose the opportunity to become runners up in the group and that place will belong to Rangers. I can't wait to bet on this fight but it's still quite a long way off about 2 weeks from now.

In this group phase, Betis only lost by Rangers and Betis not lose by Sparta Prague. Because in fact, Betis managed to beat Sparta Prague in their first meeting with a score of 2-1 and also, in reality Sparta Prague only managed to win when Sparta Prague played at home against Aris. With a record like that, there is no doubt even though Betis is playing away but of course, Betis will still have a good chance of beating Sparta Prague in the next match. But ya, it seems in this match there no about revenge for Betis, because Betis was only aiming for win to ensure qualification for the next round.

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November 14, 2023, 07:23:19 PM
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Real Betis only needs 1 more win to qualify from group C and their next opponent is Sparta Prague. Actually, the difference in points between these two teams is quite different from 5 points and in the previous meeting, Real Betis lost to Sparta Prague. This should be a place for revenge for the previous defeat and even though this is an away match, Real Betis will definitely still be favored to win. However, if Sparta Prague loses this match then they will lose the opportunity to become runners up in the group and that place will belong to Rangers. I can't wait to bet on this fight but it's still quite a long way off about 2 weeks from now.
Betis was never lose from Sparta Prague before because on the last meeting they can able to win with scores 2-1 and Betis loses was happened when they fight against Rangers in the first match of this competition but since that Betis was never tasted the loses again in all competitions and with 9 points Betis can occupy first place on group standings and they have 4 points above to Sparta Prague the team who in the third place and indeed mathematically Betis only needed 1 point to qualified but i think they can do more than that which mean Betis have good opportunity to win the match because i think Betis want to finish at first place after group stages ended and after international break if there is no players who got injured i think Betis will be able to overcomes Sparta Prague
However Rangers are one of the stronger teams in this group and I think they are the only ones who can match Real Betis. Maybe the defeat against Rangers sparked the enthusiasm of the Real Betis players so that the same defeat would not be repeated and that was proven by the 3 consecutive wins that followed. Surely this will be the final obstacle for Sparta Prague because Real Betis is the only team they have to beat if they want to qualify for the next phase. Moreover, after that Sparta Prague will face Aris, whose first round meeting they have already lost so that the last match will not be an obstacle for them. The injury factor resulting from the international break can sometimes be detrimental to a team and I hope Real Betis does not have this problem.
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November 14, 2023, 07:24:11 PM
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Xabi Alonso looks really determined in not only the Bundesliga but also the Europa League. Do you think that they can win 2 titles in the same season?

To tell the truth it isn't impossible for Leverkusen to achieve this success. Because the way they have been playing so far is quite impressive. The players must also be believing in their coach so much that they are performing really consistently. Winning the Bundesliga is really difficult against Bayern Munich but why not considering that they didn't lose to them in Allianz Arena.

Thinking about the Europa League title they have some really challenging opponents already now and I don't know how the look of the tournament would be after more teams come down from the Champions League.
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I don't think Marseille will make it far in the champions league but however they have been in good form in the Europa league but I just have this natural feeling that they might not really reach the final because i dont see them putting more energy in their matches though their group are more or less teams that they are stronger than hence their level of success so far. Though brighton is also a threat in that group but nevertheless I see the both clubs qualifying for the next round.

In fact, the pattern promoted by Gennaro Gattuso is quite ideal given the depth of the Marseille squad. unfortunately, from the start Maserille chose the wrong coach. I don't want to say that Marselino is an incompetent coach, but he rather applies patterns, systems and formations that are outdated and difficult to develop. Now, Maseille has changed coaching, although to be honest it was much better when Igor Tudor was in charge of this team. However, we will give Gattuso the opportunity to prove his quality as a coach. He has played 8 matches with Marseille in two competitions, winning three, drawing two and losing three.

In the domestic league, Maseille is in 10th place and is very far behind the points difference with the teams in the top four of the standings. Even though it's not ideal, we'll see, the Ligue 1 competition still has a lot of matches left.  Well, in this competition, they are in first place with 8 points and below them is Brighton with 7 points. These two teams, one of which has the potential to win a ticket to the round of 16. but with the condition, they have to win the match before these two teams meet. The results of the match determine which team will advance to the round of 16 and the other team must go through the playoffs to get a ticket to the last 16. Well, at least it's quite interesting for those presented by the Europa League.

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In fact, the pattern promoted by Gennaro Gattuso is quite ideal given the depth of the Marseille squad. unfortunately, from the start Maserille chose the wrong coach. I don't want to say that Marselino is an incompetent coach, but he rather applies patterns, systems and formations that are outdated and difficult to develop. Now, Maseille has changed coaching, although to be honest it was much better when Igor Tudor was in charge of this team. However, we will give Gattuso the opportunity to prove his quality as a coach. He has played 8 matches with Marseille in two competitions, winning three, drawing two and losing three.

In the domestic league, Maseille is in 10th place and is very far behind the points difference with the teams in the top four of the standings. Even though it's not ideal, we'll see, the Ligue 1 competition still has a lot of matches left.  Well, in this competition, they are in first place with 8 points and below them is Brighton with 7 points. These two teams, one of which has the potential to win a ticket to the round of 16. but with the condition, they have to win the match before these two teams meet. The results of the match determine which team will advance to the round of 16 and the other team must go through the playoffs to get a ticket to the last 16. Well, at least it's quite interesting for those presented by the Europa League.
Marseille's change of technical head caused a lot of changes in the team as well, the new coach now has to prove so many points as regards his capabilities to take the team to somewhere better, they've been struggling in their games in their league being in the last spot of the top half and as well in the European cup tournament.

 Their qualification is still shaky as their counterpart is threatening, they have to be extra careful and not trade the competition for anything, any mistake or loss made or incurred would turn out to be a disqualification, they don't have solid points yet so I'd prefer that they strive for wins in their last group games though I know the chance rate would be shaky but it's still worth giving a shot, because all hope for qualification is not over until the group stage is over.
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Real Betis only needs 1 more win to qualify from group C and their next opponent is Sparta Prague. Actually, the difference in points between these two teams is quite different from 5 points and in the previous meeting, Real Betis lost to Sparta Prague. This should be a place for revenge for the previous defeat and even though this is an away match, Real Betis will definitely still be favored to win. However, if Sparta Prague loses this match then they will lose the opportunity to become runners up in the group and that place will belong to Rangers. I can't wait to bet on this fight but it's still quite a long way off about 2 weeks from now.

That's gonna be easy win for sure. 12 points are enough to make betis to be qualified for the next round. Sparta prague is not that good at this moment. Betis can win easily against it. The chance owned by betis is the bigger in the group.
Im willing to put all of money on betis and im sure this club will be winning the group stage. Sparta is also going all in this match. betis is the strongest in the group. This makes me think sparta has no chance to beat betis even with narrow score.
Betis will still lead the group and go to the last 16. Ranges will be also able to winning against aris limassol. Aris is the worst one in the group. That will be the easiest match for rangers to get three points.

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There is still 1 match left. And it looks like Betis and Rangers are certain to qualify from Group C. Sparta also has a chance but it will take a miracle. They must surprisingly beat Betis and Aris must be able to beat the rangers. It was like an absolutely impossible mission. I think there is no better scenario than this if you look at Sparta's chances of qualifying for the next round.

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November 15, 2023, 08:35:41 AM
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Real Betis only needs 1 more win to qualify from group C and their next opponent is Sparta Prague. Actually, the difference in points between these two teams is quite different from 5 points and in the previous meeting, Real Betis lost to Sparta Prague. This should be a place for revenge for the previous defeat and even though this is an away match, Real Betis will definitely still be favored to win. However, if Sparta Prague loses this match then they will lose the opportunity to become runners up in the group and that place will belong to Rangers. I can't wait to bet on this fight but it's still quite a long way off about 2 weeks from now.
Betis was never lose from Sparta Prague before because on the last meeting they can able to win with scores 2-1 and Betis loses was happened when they fight against Rangers in the first match of this competition but since that Betis was never tasted the loses again in all competitions and with 9 points Betis can occupy first place on group standings and they have 4 points above to Sparta Prague the team who in the third place and indeed mathematically Betis only needed 1 point to qualified but i think they can do more than that which mean Betis have good opportunity to win the match because i think Betis want to finish at first place after group stages ended and after international break if there is no players who got injured i think Betis will be able to overcomes Sparta Prague

I think REBA should be able to qualify. Because the odds are heavily in favour of them. They have two games left if I am not wrong. And I think they are going to win at least one of them. I actually believe they should be able to get at least four points, win one, and draw one. But even if they win only one match they are going to qualify if I’m not wrong. because I don't think the other teams in this group are actually that consistent, to be honest. It is definitely going to be a shame if they cannot qualify for the next stage. but I don't think that is going to happen.

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November 15, 2023, 09:39:44 AM
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There is still 1 match left. And it looks like Betis and Rangers are certain to qualify from Group C. Sparta also has a chance but it will take a miracle. They must surprisingly beat Betis and Aris must be able to beat the rangers. It was like an absolutely impossible mission. I think there is no better scenario than this if you look at Sparta's chances of qualifying for the next round.
There is still a chance for Sparta if in the next match against Betis Sparta can make good use of the opportunity as host, which is certain that playing at home will be a big advantage for Sparta and they will make full efforts to get through to the next round but if Sparta does not succeed in winning it is possible Sparta's will not escape.
There are only 2 opportunities remaining and the last match will be against Aris but unfortunately Sparta will be playing away but if Sparta wins again, it is possible that Sparta can still go to the play off round to replace Rangers, even though it seems difficult for Sparta, well see how the match goes.
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November 15, 2023, 11:58:23 AM
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There is still 1 match left. And it looks like Betis and Rangers are certain to qualify from Group C. Sparta also has a chance but it will take a miracle. They must surprisingly beat Betis and Aris must be able to beat the rangers. It was like an absolutely impossible mission. I think there is no better scenario than this if you look at Sparta's chances of qualifying for the next round.
There are 2 more matches left and Real Betis has a very big chance of qualifying, they have now collected 9 points but mathematically Real Betis needs 1 more win to ensure they qualify from the group phase.
While Rangers and Sparta have the same chance of qualifying, the two teams are now only separated by 3 points, with 2 more matches remaining it is possible for anything to happen.
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Atalanta currently tops group D with 10 points from 4 matches and they only need 1 more win to maintain their chances of qualifying as group winners. However, they will face obstacles because they will face a fairly strong team in the group, namely Sporting. Even though in the previous meeting Atalanta managed to beat Sporting by a narrow score, this time Sporting will fight it out considering that they have two more matches to qualify, one of which is that they have to get 3 points when they visit Atalanta.

This will be quite a difficult match for both teams because they are both aiming for 3 points to maintain their chances of qualifying. On the other hand, Sturm Graz, which is currently in 3rd position, will still have the possibility of qualifying if it wins the next two matches. This will be another exciting round of the European league and I am curious who will advance to the next round from these 3 teams.
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Atalanta currently tops group D with 10 points from 4 matches and they only need 1 more win to maintain their chances of qualifying as group winners. However, they will face obstacles because they will face a fairly strong team in the group, namely Sporting. Even though in the previous meeting Atalanta managed to beat Sporting by a narrow score, this time Sporting will fight it out considering that they have two more matches to qualify, one of which is that they have to get 3 points when they visit Atalanta.

This will be quite a difficult match for both teams because they are both aiming for 3 points to maintain their chances of qualifying. On the other hand, Sturm Graz, which is currently in 3rd position, will still have the possibility of qualifying if it wins the next two matches. This will be another exciting round of the European league and I am curious who will advance to the next round from these 3 teams.
Secure one points its looks not enough for Atalanta although success qualify to next round but they have face with playoff round, I don't think Atalanta won't finish on 2nd placed behind with great opportunity for finishing 1st position automatically will be on 16th round. Atalanta have 3 points remaining from Sporting Lisbon, its looks excited upcoming match both teams will face each other and the winner has close potential with first position finish place.

I think chance for Sturm Graz team depend with the match result between Atalanta vs Udinese, could be little help for Sturm Graz if Atalanta defeated Sporting Lisbon and they win over Raków Częstochowa. If above result on next match happening will be excited on the last match between Sporting Lisbon vs Sturm Graz due the winner will qualify as playoff round, Sporting on crucial position right now and their upcoming match result will be important for their participants in next round of Europe League.

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November 15, 2023, 12:35:50 PM
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There is still 1 match left. And it looks like Betis and Rangers are certain to qualify from Group C. Sparta also has a chance but it will take a miracle. They must surprisingly beat Betis and Aris must be able to beat the rangers. It was like an absolutely impossible mission. I think there is no better scenario than this if you look at Sparta's chances of qualifying for the next round.
It looks like the remaining two matches are 5th and 6th, in the 5th match Sparta will meet Betis and even though this is home game for Sparta but I not sure they can take advantage of the opportunity and beat Betis because so far Betis has been good for the group C.
Meanwhile, in the last match Sparta will only face Aris Limassol who is the bottom team in the group with the same three points as Sparta.
In this last match there will only be chance of draw.

From the remaining two matches, I not so sure that Sparta can get full points to occupy second place and qualify from group C to advance to the next round.
Betis and Rangers remain the favorites who have very good chance of qualifying.

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November 15, 2023, 12:54:18 PM
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There is still 1 match left. And it looks like Betis and Rangers are certain to qualify from Group C. Sparta also has a chance but it will take a miracle. They must surprisingly beat Betis and Aris must be able to beat the rangers. It was like an absolutely impossible mission. I think there is no better scenario than this if you look at Sparta's chances of qualifying for the next round.
It looks like the remaining two matches are 5th and 6th, in the 5th match Sparta will meet Betis and even though this is home game for Sparta but I not sure they can take advantage of the opportunity and beat Betis because so far Betis has been good for the group C.
Meanwhile, in the last match Sparta will only face Aris Limassol who is the bottom team in the group with the same three points as Sparta.
In this last match there will only be chance of draw.

From the remaining two matches, I not so sure that Sparta can get full points to occupy second place and qualify from group C to advance to the next round.
Betis and Rangers remain the favorites who have very good chance of qualifying.
Compared to Sparta, the two teams currently ranked first and second, Betis and Rangers, have quite a big chance of qualifying from the group, especially Real Betis, they only need to get 1 more draw to ensure they qualify from the group, now Betis has 9 points and If you have 10 points, it's impossible to catch up again, although I'm sure Betis will definitely aim to qualify as leader of the standings.
While I think Rangers and Sparta have the same chance of qualifying from the group, the remaining 2 matches are very difficult to predict.

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November 15, 2023, 12:54:34 PM
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Atalanta currently tops group D with 10 points from 4 matches and they only need 1 more win to maintain their chances of qualifying as group winners. However, they will face obstacles because they will face a fairly strong team in the group, namely Sporting. Even though in the previous meeting Atalanta managed to beat Sporting by a narrow score, this time Sporting will fight it out considering that they have two more matches to qualify, one of which is that they have to get 3 points when they visit Atalanta.
Atalanta qualifying for the next round of the Group D competition is not difficult with the number of points they currently have before competing against Sporting Lisbon on December 1.
Sporting Lisbon is a strong opponent for Atalanta but Atalanta can complete the challenge well. Atalanta's challenge is in waiting for their match, namely Napoli in Serie A before playing Sporting Lisbon. If in the match against Napoli a player is injured, then Atalanta will experience difficulties because Sporting Lisbon is a strong team in getting 3 points.

 
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