[SOLVED] Betnomi | Project status & Refund Plan!

[Coin_trader]

Did anyone recevie any reply on mail or money refund already?
They claimed that batch of refunds should be pushed within last days but I didn't get any reply on mail nor any transfer.

Probably due to weekends. They typically off work or off computer when weekends to process the refund. Betnomi is not online since his last login here which means he is really off work.

Just give him sometime to announce that the first batch of refund is already successful before you conclude that you are not being entertained since possibly anyone on first batch list experienced the same.

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[iv4n]

Did anyone recevie any reply on mail or money refund already?
They claimed that batch of refunds should be pushed within last days but I didn't get any reply on mail nor any transfer.

Probably due to weekends. They typically off work or off computer when weekends to process the refund. Betnomi is not online since his last login here which means he is really off work.

Just give him sometime to announce that the first batch of refund is already successful before you conclude that you are not being entertained since possibly anyone on first batch list experienced the same.

I guess they will refund everyone, sooner or later... it would be really foolish if they don't do it, why would they come back in the first place? I had just a few dollars there, and I will not ask for a refund.

But for days I wonder about one thing... even if they return and refund all the people who had money there, what is their end goal? Just learning their reputation and that's it? Or do they have some plan to reopen Betnomi? I went a few times trough their posts, but I can't figure it out...

[Hispo]

Did anyone recevie any reply on mail or money refund already?
They claimed that batch of refunds should be pushed within last days but I didn't get any reply on mail nor any transfer.

Probably due to weekends. They typically off work or off computer when weekends to process the refund. Betnomi is not online since his last login here which means he is really off work.

Just give him sometime to announce that the first batch of refund is already successful before you conclude that you are not being entertained since possibly anyone on first batch list experienced the same.

I guess they will refund everyone, sooner or later... it would be really foolish if they don't do it, why would they come back in the first place? I had just a few dollars there, and I will not ask for a refund.

But for days I wonder about one thing... even if they return and refund all the people who had money there, what is their end goal? Just learning their reputation and that's it? Or do they have some plan to reopen Betnomi? I went a few times trough their posts, but I can't figure it out...

Actually, they mentioned in earlier post they plan the reopen the casino, perhaps under a different brand but maintaining the same administration (which is currently trying to refund the money to the victims, which was taken by the rogue part of the staff of the casino). So basically, their objective is to clean their name as much as possible before reopening and continue to earn money with their new brand.

Also, if they were clever they would give priorities to those who had big balances and then move from their to users who had medium sizes balances, and so on. That would dramatically reduce the pressure on them and in an exponential way.

[Oilacris]

Did anyone recevie any reply on mail or money refund already?
They claimed that batch of refunds should be pushed within last days but I didn't get any reply on mail nor any transfer.

Probably due to weekends. They typically off work or off computer when weekends to process the refund. Betnomi is not online since his last login here which means he is really off work.

Just give him sometime to announce that the first batch of refund is already successful before you conclude that you are not being entertained since possibly anyone on first batch list experienced the same.

I guess they will refund everyone, sooner or later... it would be really foolish if they don't do it, why would they come back in the first place? I had just a few dollars there, and I will not ask for a refund.

But for days I wonder about one thing... even if they return and refund all the people who had money there, what is their end goal? Just learning their reputation and that's it? Or do they have some plan to reopen Betnomi? I went a few times trough their posts, but I can't figure it out...

Actually, they mentioned in earlier post they plan the reopen the casino, perhaps under a different brand but maintaining the same administration (which is currently trying to refund the money to the victims, which was taken by the rogue part of the staff of the casino). So basically, their objective is to clean their name as much as possible before reopening and continue to earn money with their new brand.

Also, if they were clever they would give priorities to those who had big balances and then move from their to users who had medium sizes balances, and so on. That would dramatically reduce the pressure on them and in an exponential way.

Doesnt matter on where they would be starting on which that pressure would really be just the same since they would really be that paying all in all in speaking about balances whether small or big.
They would really be that obliged on doing so but its actually good that they did make out those considerations on giving out some refund, if this problem actually starts with those shit staffs and trying out to repair the damage that has been done then its a good initiative and trying out to make a new brand name with the same management, well its a nice move because whether we do like it or not
on which if a certain casino/platform did have some issues back in the past and turned out that they came back then we cant deny that people would really be that hesitant on trusting them back.

[GekkeBelg]

I'm starting to get bad vibes and don't believe we will get any funds.
November 27th it was said the first batch would be paid in "the next few days". It's been a week since this was said, usually "few days" means less than a week, so this does not feel right. I suppose nobody got any payment yet, not even a very small one?

[arallmuus]

I'm starting to get bad vibes and don't believe we will get any funds.
November 27th it was said the first batch would be paid in "the next few days". It's been a week since this was said, usually "few days" means less than a week, so this does not feel right. I suppose nobody got any payment yet, not even a very small one?

Dont sweat this. Most people was already at the point of not believing that Betnomi will ever come back then somehow they did so at this point, there is really nothing to lose. Its too early for them to pull some April Fool's but even if they do refund everything, they have tarnish their reputation and most people would most likely will never come back to their future site

but it would be great if they actually refund everything up

[iv4n]

Actually, they mentioned in earlier post they plan the reopen the casino...

And who will play in this re-opened casino? I guess they can clear this situation and refund people (I don't care for my few bucks), but they just disappeared for six months? Even if they get in again with many new promotions should we play in their new casino?

Too many questions, and not so many smart answers... I played those poker tournaments, and they were great, but mostly because people from here who participated in those tournaments.

[Hamphser]

Actually, they mentioned in earlier post they plan the reopen the casino...

And who will play in this re-opened casino? I guess they can clear this situation and refund people (I don't care for my few bucks), but they just disappeared for six months? Even if they get in again with many new promotions should we play in their new casino?

Too many questions, and not so many smart answers... I played those poker tournaments, and they were great, but mostly because people from here who participated in those tournaments.

The main issue on here would really be that pertaining about "TRUST" on which this is something that cant really be taken back to original thing.They can make some good promotions or offerings but
taking back those players will never happen exempt into those who are loyal players of this platform then it could be possible but for those who  had been locked up or even into bystanders
then they wont really be dealing up into a place on which it does have this kind of issue or history. It would be better that they would be making up some rebranding
and would really be letting the public or community know that they are still on the same management. People cant trust up anymore and it would be better that
they should be launching up with brand new name and not known team behind or keeping it secret on some sort.

[Betwrong]

Actually, they mentioned in earlier post they plan the reopen the casino...

And who will play in this re-opened casino? I guess they can clear this situation and refund people (I don't care for my few bucks), but they just disappeared for six months? Even if they get in again with many new promotions should we play in their new casino?

Too many questions, and not so many smart answers... I played those poker tournaments, and they were great, but mostly because people from here who participated in those tournaments.

Oh, they were great those Bitcointalk Poker Tournaments on Betnomi, weren't they? I actually won one of them and I can confirm that I was fully paid by Betnomi(they were sponsoring the tournaments) and I had successfully withdrawn the money. After that I had been playing for more than a year or two on the site, and I can say that their poker platform was attractive to many poker lovers, thousands I'd say. I personally hope they'll be back.

[avp2306]

Actually, they mentioned in earlier post they plan the reopen the casino...

And who will play in this re-opened casino? I guess they can clear this situation and refund people (I don't care for my few bucks), but they just disappeared for six months? Even if they get in again with many new promotions should we play in their new casino?

Too many questions, and not so many smart answers... I played those poker tournaments, and they were great, but mostly because people from here who participated in those tournaments.

Oh, they were great those Bitcointalk Poker Tournaments on Betnomi, weren't they? I actually won one of them and I can confirm that I was fully paid by Betnomi(they were sponsoring the tournaments) and I had successfully withdrawn the money. After that I had been playing for more than a year or two on the site, and I can say that their poker platform was attractive to many poker lovers, thousands I'd say. I personally hope they'll be back.

Great to here your feedback given to them since somehow it can give some plus points to those people still doubting of their comeback so maybe they really need to put a lot of efforts to solve whatever issues they have so that they can comeback here smoothly without anyone throwing some negative about their issues happened in the past.

I maybe not experience any bad or good on this casino since I don't much play here but if the case they satisfy all parties towards finding a solution regarding on some issues and operate smoothly without any further trouble then for sure they can convince those people still doubting to give a shot on their casino since they provide more better experience to them.

[Woodie]

Betnomi Refund Plan

we are ready to accept and process refund requests. Kindly send an email to refund@betnomi.com with the following details:

Code:

1. First name, Last name (if you are KYC verified)
2. Username (request will be ignored if the username does not exist)
3. Email address (request will be ignored if the email does not match)
4. Refund Amount (approximate balance is acceptable)
5. Wallet address (we will process only in the cryptocurrency you have)

Our aim is to responsibly refund our users and ensure a secure process.

Thank you all for your cooperation.

Refund process is welcome but looking at how long this has taken it would be prudent to send emails out incase some users gave up on their hard earned money and aren't aware that you have comeback to resolve these cases and fix your reputation .

Better yet, since you have the backups in place and most likely know the affected users why not send out those emails and not just saying if you don't add email or username you won't be refunded!
Be proactive & show responsiblility and good luck to you betnomi  

[piebeyb]

I'm starting to get bad vibes and don't believe we will get any funds.
November 27th it was said the first batch would be paid in "the next few days". It's been a week since this was said, usually "few days" means less than a week, so this does not feel right. I suppose nobody got any payment yet, not even a very small one?

I think you need to get another update and confirmation from the OP and I see that he was last active on this forum around December 1st, so my advice is to just wait until they actually process everything and confirm in this thread that the refund has been processed , I'm sure they also know that their reputation is really at stake here so whether you feel confident or not sure, you just need to wait and also look at other users too, who knows, maybe someone has already received a refund.

But whatever it is, don't get your hopes too high because it might disappoint you, so it's best to wait for further information from the OP in this thread. This is very important because there may be a lot of users who have to be verified by the OP for a refund so it takes time to record it, I hope you Get your money back immediately. 

[SamReomo]

I'm starting to get bad vibes and don't believe we will get any funds.
November 27th it was said the first batch would be paid in "the next few days". It's been a week since this was said, usually "few days" means less than a week, so this does not feel right. I suppose nobody got any payment yet, not even a very small one?

Such promises take a lot of time and that's why I don't think that they'll be able to refund anyone soon. I have also noticed that they don't have the original database in their hands and that's why they might follow a strategy to pay only those people who they find honest with their words and details. I'm also getting such vibes about them but let's be positive and give them a month or two to see how they will proceed their refund plans.

[Stayzor]

I'm starting to get bad vibes and don't believe we will get any funds.
November 27th it was said the first batch would be paid in "the next few days". It's been a week since this was said, usually "few days" means less than a week, so this does not feel right. I suppose nobody got any payment yet, not even a very small one?

No, not received my payment here either.

[Hispo]

Actually, they mentioned in earlier post they plan the reopen the casino...

And who will play in this re-opened casino? I guess they can clear this situation and refund people (I don't care for my few bucks), but they just disappeared for six months? Even if they get in again with many new promotions should we play in their new casino?

Too many questions, and not so many smart answers... I played those poker tournaments, and they were great, but mostly because people from here who participated in those tournaments.

Well, we could argue they disappeared because they were trying to figure out what happened and also the money needed to start refunding those who lost money. Six months is actually a reasonable time to get the money and the information, in my humble opinion, Though, I am not trying to justify or advocate for a casino which initially appareared to have exit scammed.
I would personally see no problem someone still trusting this casino with some bucks (not big money) and still participating in their poker events. If this was about exit scamming and stealing as much as possible, they could have done it already and not coming back here giving explanations and funds back.

[iv4n]

Actually, they mentioned in earlier post they plan the reopen the casino...

And who will play in this re-opened casino? I guess they can clear this situation and refund people (I don't care for my few bucks), but they just disappeared for six months? Even if they get in again with many new promotions should we play in their new casino?

Too many questions, and not so many smart answers... I played those poker tournaments, and they were great, but mostly because people from here who participated in those tournaments.

Well, we could argue they disappeared because they were trying to figure out what happened and also the money needed to start refunding those who lost money. Six months is actually a reasonable time to get the money and the information, in my humble opinion, Though, I am not trying to justify or advocate for a casino which initially appareared to have exit scammed.
I would personally see no problem someone still trusting this casino with some bucks (not big money) and still participating in their poker events. If this was about exit scamming and stealing as much as possible, they could have done it already and not coming back here giving explanations and funds back.

Will you open an account and play at this casino if they come back? I played poker and Farkle mostly (the only casino with Farkle game), slots from time to time, but I am not sure if I will play there again... if they open a new casino with a new name. This question is for all of us I guess, are we ready to forgive this and move on like nothing happened, or we will condemn this kind of behavior and stand firm? Some other members raised good questions, and I can't say that I am satisfied by Betnomi's answers.

They returned this time (after six months) and maybe they will refund all the players, but they can disappear again without any words... it's just weird that they just disappeared without any words, I still can't understand it... they could have written anything back then, but now it's too late...

[ryzaadit]

IMO, even they respond with the batch-refund.

Better to wait until 21-28 December, so they're not having some excuse for some delay things like (We're planning to collecthing more data from user until the windows time is close). It's better to wait 28 December.

Since, they're not really active at all.

[Hispo]

Actually, they mentioned in earlier post they plan the reopen the casino...

And who will play in this re-opened casino? I guess they can clear this situation and refund people (I don't care for my few bucks), but they just disappeared for six months? Even if they get in again with many new promotions should we play in their new casino?

Too many questions, and not so many smart answers... I played those poker tournaments, and they were great, but mostly because people from here who participated in those tournaments.

Well, we could argue they disappeared because they were trying to figure out what happened and also the money needed to start refunding those who lost money. Six months is actually a reasonable time to get the money and the information, in my humble opinion, Though, I am not trying to justify or advocate for a casino which initially appareared to have exit scammed.
I would personally see no problem someone still trusting this casino with some bucks (not big money) and still participating in their poker events. If this was about exit scamming and stealing as much as possible, they could have done it already and not coming back here giving explanations and funds back.

Will you open an account and play at this casino if they come back? I played poker and Farkle mostly (the only casino with Farkle game), slots from time to time, but I am not sure if I will play there again... if they open a new casino with a new name. This question is for all of us I guess, are we ready to forgive this and move on like nothing happened, or we will condemn this kind of behavior and stand firm? Some other members raised good questions, and I can't say that I am satisfied by Betnomi's answers.

They returned this time (after six months) and maybe they will refund all the players, but they can disappear again without any words... it's just weird that they just disappeared without any words, I still can't understand it... they could have written anything back then, but now it's too late...

From my own perspective and experience, it is very unlikely I will lean towards opening an account with them when they decide to come back with a new and rebranded product for us. I did not have an account anyways.
All your points are valid, so are the concerns you point out, if they somehow screwed up big time and disappeared for months, it can happen again. However, considering Betnomi is so community focused here, I would not be surprised by manage to recover a good percentage of gambling Volume.
Since I am rather casual with wagering money, I do not have any need to open many account around in each casino which crosses my path.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Oh wow, I wasn't aware of this thread!

Glad to hear that Betnomi is trying to make things right, but until they actually do it's hard to be too optimistic.
I have a tiny amount in the site myself and will try to reclaim it as well.

Hopefully this case will be solved some time soon and we can welcome them back into the bitcointalk community. The end of Betnomi was really sudden so I didn't expect to read a thread like this, haha.

Life is full of surprises!

[ryzaadit]

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Off course, because these brands are owned by multiple investors/persons. So they need to change or at least coming back with a new name because the name already been broken.

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People still waiting the first batch being sent, some user already tried to claim and getting message for the first batch-recovery will be sent in the next day after they send a recovery request. But until now, they are still not sent anything + without any single respon again.