[SOLVED] Betnomi | Project status & Refund Plan!

[piebeyb]

In fact, if you had mentioned this situation from the start, perhaps everyone would not have accused Betnomi of negative things and also been angry with you, as if you had abandoned everyone without any reason or information, thus making many people despair about their money on the previous Betnomi site. , but after you explain this maybe some people will be happy and at least their money will actually be returned.

I know that perhaps many people have previously put their trust in your site, whether it is still there or has been lost, because it is difficult if someone's trust has been damaged just because they feel abandoned by the site owner, but whatever it is, you have explained it in detail here, it all comes back to the user. each of you. Glad to hear you're back again 

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[Coin_trader]

In fact, if you had mentioned this situation from the start, perhaps everyone would not have accused Betnomi of negative things and also been angry with you, as if you had abandoned everyone without any reason or information, thus making many people despair about their money on the previous Betnomi site. , but after you explain this maybe some people will be happy and at least their money will actually be returned.

Nahhh, Nothing will change if they mention this earlier or not as long as they still hold the funds of users because all players money should be backed 1:1 and can be withdraw at all time. There’s no excuse about holding their customers if they are having some inner struggle since customers money is not their money so they should allow withdrawal even if the problem is going on.

Affected user will still accuse them of scammer even if they give this statement on day 1. It’s very simple that they should open all withdrawal at anytime hough if they didn’t runaway the money. We are not sure either if the OP is telling the truth because there’s no evidence that backed his word.

[Wiwo]

In fact, if you had mentioned this situation from the start, perhaps everyone would not have accused Betnomi of negative things and also been angry with you, as if you had abandoned everyone without any reason or information, thus making many people despair about their money on the previous Betnomi site. , but after you explain this maybe some people will be happy and at least their money will actually be returned.

Nahhh, Nothing will change if they mention this earlier or not as long as they still hold the funds of users because all players money should be backed 1:1 and can be withdraw at all time. There’s no excuse about holding their customers if they are having some inner struggle since customers money is not their money so they should allow withdrawal even if the problem is going on.

Affected user will still accuse them of scammer even if they give this statement on day 1. It’s very simple that they should open all withdrawal at anytime hough if they didn’t runaway the money. We are not sure either if the OP is telling the truth because there’s no evidence that backed his word.

Perhaps if the Betnomi team had come out earlier than this,  a lot could have been prevented such as the reputation and red tags that were given to the official Betnomi account should and could have been prevented,  but coming now after several months of inactivity to state that the domain has been attacked is something that will take a lot of replies and convictions of the gamblers who may have suffered from this event that happened to betnomi.

Another thing to note is the fact that there is no timeline as to when the users whose funds are held in the casino but the only promises which is something that we have to take them for and let us be on the lookout for another announcement from how fast the new domain will be launched.

[jayce]

I was one of the user that probably made withdrawal when someone posted in their thread that the betnomi is not processing any withdrawal then there were alot of complaints in the telegram chat as well. I received the whole amount that I requested but I believe there were some users still affected as well because iirc I told @jayce about this then he immediately requested withdrawal as well but never received them until the whole site was down

Actually it was too late for me to request the withdrawal. I just thought it would be a temporary maintenance and decided to wait

[GxSTxV]

I’m wondering if there is any update about this matter after one of Betnomi showed, still my opinion the same as my first reply here. I want only to see if anyone here from the players of Betnomi casino who has pending funds with them received any repayment yet, or at least got contacted by them.

As many of users mentioned, I believe that the process of refund should be quick and sharing any latest updates. I’m sure it’s not just a small hope for the users now but a big one and should stay the same until they all get their funds.

[Mate2237]

In fact, if you had mentioned this situation from the start, perhaps everyone would not have accused Betnomi of negative things and also been angry with you, as if you had abandoned everyone without any reason or information, thus making many people despair about their money on the previous Betnomi site. , but after you explain this maybe some people will be happy and at least their money will actually be returned.

Nahhh, Nothing will change if they mention this earlier or not as long as they still hold the funds of users because all players money should be backed 1:1 and can be withdraw at all time. There’s no excuse about holding their customers if they are having some inner struggle since customers money is not their money so they should allow withdrawal even if the problem is going on.

Affected user will still accuse them of scammer even if they give this statement on day 1. It’s very simple that they should open all withdrawal at anytime hough if they didn’t runaway the money. We are not sure either if the OP is telling the truth because there’s no evidence that backed his word.

Perhaps if the Betnomi team had come out earlier than this,  a lot could have been prevented such as the reputation and red tags that were given to the official Betnomi account should and could have been prevented,  but coming now after several months of inactivity to state that the domain has been attacked is something that will take a lot of replies and convictions of the gamblers who may have suffered from this event that happened to betnomi.

Another thing to note is the fact that there is no timeline as to when the users whose funds are held in the casino but the only promises which is something that we have to take them for and let us be on the lookout for another announcement from how fast the new domain will be launched.

Exactly, If betnomi explained what happened at the early stage the distrust wouldn't be like this, betnomi I know was having a very good reputation in the forum, probably coming to the forum at that early time of the issue was also hacked, highjacked and or frustrated. betnomi should blame themselves action and inaction and now to cure the wound or the injury they gotten will not be easy.

But now all what they need to do for people to believe their side of the story is to clear all the debt and do the right thing at the right time then people start to trust them gradually.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

Over the past two years, we have developed our own casino software, risk management engine, and other valuable intellectual property worth millions of dollars. We intend to leverage this expertise to rebuild a stronger brand in the future.

We will provide an update on our reimbursement plan and schedule as soon as possible.

Thank you for your understanding.

It's a pleasure indeed hearing from "Betnomi" casino representative once again about the state of your casino and possible way forward after series of several scam accusations led against you, of which I'm happy to hear you guys having plans on resolving all claims, both deposit & withdrawal issues led against your casino. But if only had you come up to tell the bitcoin community about this challenge long time ago, we all would have understood and remain patient enough knowing fully well you guys were under attack. And however, it is never too late to prove your reputation, but if only you can keep to  your world and not act like 1xbit,

[CryptSafe]

In fact, if you had mentioned this situation from the start, perhaps everyone would not have accused Betnomi of negative things and also been angry with you, as if you had abandoned everyone without any reason or information, thus making many people despair about their money on the previous Betnomi site. , but after you explain this maybe some people will be happy and at least their money will actually be returned.

Nahhh, Nothing will change if they mention this earlier or not as long as they still hold the funds of users because all players money should be backed 1:1 and can be withdraw at all time. There’s no excuse about holding their customers if they are having some inner struggle since customers money is not their money so they should allow withdrawal even if the problem is going on.

Affected user will still accuse them of scammer even if they give this statement on day 1. It’s very simple that they should open all withdrawal at anytime hough if they didn’t runaway the money. We are not sure either if the OP is telling the truth because there’s no evidence that backed his word.

Perhaps if the Betnomi team had come out earlier than this,  a lot could have been prevented such as the reputation and red tags that were given to the official Betnomi account should and could have been prevented,  but coming now after several months of inactivity to state that the domain has been attacked is something that will take a lot of replies and convictions of the gamblers who may have suffered from this event that happened to betnomi.

Another thing to note is the fact that there is no timeline as to when the users whose funds are held in the casino but the only promises which is something that we have to take them for and let us be on the lookout for another announcement from how fast the new domain will be launched.

Exactly, If betnomi explained what happened at the early stage the distrust wouldn't be like this, betnomi I know was having a very good reputation in the forum, probably coming to the forum at that early time of the issue was also hacked, highjacked and or frustrated. betnomi should blame themselves action and inaction and now to cure the wound or the injury they gotten will not be easy.

But now all what they need to do for people to believe their side of the story is to clear all the debt and do the right thing at the right time then people start to trust them gradually.

It is obvious that Betnomi played with the trust customers had in them. What they are doing now should have been what they should have done from the very beginning of their internal struggles. Customers funds are what they should not be joking about or fighting over. The funds do not belong to them but to the customers, just as Wiwo has said, and as such, they should not be held for a long time without granting customers access. Their internal misunderstanding should just be within them, as this is business and their is no need to suspend withdrawal as the funds do not belong to them. This singular act they have done would definitely wreck the reputation they have built over the past years.

[darkangel11]

Nahhh, Nothing will change if they mention this earlier or not as long as they still hold the funds of users because all players money should be backed 1:1 and can be withdraw at all time. There’s no excuse about holding their customers if they are having some inner struggle since customers money is not their money so they should allow withdrawal even if the problem is going on.

Affected user will still accuse them of scammer even if they give this statement on day 1. It’s very simple that they should open all withdrawal at anytime hough if they didn’t runaway the money. We are not sure either if the OP is telling the truth because there’s no evidence that backed his word.

I feel like they'd get a a lot less hate from users if they were 100% transparent, but it's our natural way of handling such things that we want to stay silent hoping we can handle it and save our reputation completely without anyone finding out and then it's too late.

I like that they're trying to do the right thing and bring back a casino with tarnished reputation. It's usually much easier to change name and start from scratch.
They chose the harder way, but the ethically right one. Let's give them a chance.

[Oilacris]

Nahhh, Nothing will change if they mention this earlier or not as long as they still hold the funds of users because all players money should be backed 1:1 and can be withdraw at all time. There’s no excuse about holding their customers if they are having some inner struggle since customers money is not their money so they should allow withdrawal even if the problem is going on.

Affected user will still accuse them of scammer even if they give this statement on day 1. It’s very simple that they should open all withdrawal at anytime hough if they didn’t runaway the money. We are not sure either if the OP is telling the truth because there’s no evidence that backed his word.

I feel like they'd get a a lot less hate from users if they were 100% transparent, but it's our natural way of handling such things that we want to stay silent hoping we can handle it and save our reputation completely without anyone finding out and then it's too late.

I like that they're trying to do the right thing and bring back a casino with tarnished reputation. It's usually much easier to change name and start from scratch.
They chose the harder way, but the ethically right one. Let's give them a chance.

I do agree that once a casino have this kind of issues then it would really be remembered forever on which means that reputation is really that permanently tarnished on which
it is really that hard on getting it back 100% way before but well they are really that trying to fix everything from here, so its not that bad for the public or into its users on giving them
the chance on the wrong things that they have done. Of course there would really be that hesitation and doubts which is something that cant be avoided but time will tell
on whether they would really be getting back those trust or not into the gamblers into this market or would really be just simply leaving them and find for much better.?

[Hamphser]

Nahhh, Nothing will change if they mention this earlier or not as long as they still hold the funds of users because all players money should be backed 1:1 and can be withdraw at all time. There’s no excuse about holding their customers if they are having some inner struggle since customers money is not their money so they should allow withdrawal even if the problem is going on.

Affected user will still accuse them of scammer even if they give this statement on day 1. It’s very simple that they should open all withdrawal at anytime hough if they didn’t runaway the money. We are not sure either if the OP is telling the truth because there’s no evidence that backed his word.

I feel like they'd get a a lot less hate from users if they were 100% transparent, but it's our natural way of handling such things that we want to stay silent hoping we can handle it and save our reputation completely without anyone finding out and then it's too late.

I like that they're trying to do the right thing and bring back a casino with tarnished reputation. It's usually much easier to change name and start from scratch.
They chose the harder way, but the ethically right one. Let's give them a chance.

I do agree that once a casino have this kind of issues then it would really be remembered forever on which means that reputation is really that permanently tarnished on which
it is really that hard on getting it back 100% way before but well they are really that trying to fix everything from here, so its not that bad for the public or into its users on giving them
the chance on the wrong things that they have done. Of course there would really be that hesitation and doubts which is something that cant be avoided but time will tell
on whether they would really be getting back those trust or not into the gamblers into this market or would really be just simply leaving them and find for much better.?

At least they are doing the most ethical thing to be done on which giving back to those users who had been that affected on such pending withdrawals. Instead of losing it completely or to those players who had locked up their funds then they do still have the chance on pulling it out or make some withdrawal. The question on this one whether they would really be staying or not on which i do highly doubt on that one.

Tarnished reputation is indeed a really very hard thing to be removed, unless if they would be making up some compensation to those affected users and would really be that aggressive when it
comes again on bonuse and other promotions which it would make people be able to forget on what happened in the past.

Usually it would really be just that so hard to get the trust that had been given at first because disappearing and not making any
explanation on what happened will really be leading into those bad impressions that cant be removed  until the end of time. 

[BenCodie]

Great, that's what people waiting for and its good that there's a chance that they can recover back their funds on your platform. But also make sure you will not ask more conditions before legitimate users can withdraw their funds since it might dismay them.

Also guys since there's a refund plan for Betnomi users just be careful to those email claiming that they would refund you and ask some payment or try to ask your wallet information especially your private key since this is total scam. This happen for so many platform especially if they release a statement regarding on refund process that's why you should be aware of upcoming attempts of people who want to take advantage of situation.

And always look for news on legitimate Betnomi representative and don't go anywhere else.

Did you gamble your balance after it was deemed a scam?

Betnomi, if you truly have good intentions then you should be refunding users as of the balances at the time the websites reputation became a scam. Many users will have carelessly gambled their balances away due to thinking that they'd never get it back anyway.

While one may think that it's not appropriate to refund these users, I think it is, as if Betnomi had continued to operate normally then they would not have taken those actions and probably would have withdrawn.

What's the verdict on this Betnomi?


No one should trust this casino or this brand after 6 months of silence and funds held hostage... For all we know, the bull market may have allowed enough funds to be recouped - and this is gains that the users should have otherwise gotten

Take the refunds and go. Don"t even talk about using this casino post-refund.

[notblox1]

As expected, Sorsis Chatwin will come with the innocent owner role. Because, Sorsis personal information is visible publicly, isn't it? The forum only knew 'Sorsis' as the admin/owner of Betnomi. Now you are blaming unknown person by addressing them as a shady owner of Betnomi. Users data has been compromised from your database. Perhaps, whoever completed the KYC verification on your platform is at risk too.

This must be some very hush hush secret owner that nobody heard about until now
It is interesting to see that al this time Betnomi website is working with same scheduled maintenance sorry error message.
I cant wait to see what is Sorsis going to do next, I think it is going to be new casino with new name.

The guy on the left is Marin Zvonarević. His job title was 'Partner at Betnomi'.
It would be interesting to hear his side of the story.

Partner is not the same as owner of co-owner, but I doubt we are going to hear anything from this guy, whoever he is.

[Hispo]

Over the past two years, we have developed our own casino software, risk management engine, and other valuable intellectual property worth millions of dollars. We intend to leverage this expertise to rebuild a stronger brand in the future.

We will provide an update on our reimbursement plan and schedule as soon as possible.

Thank you for your understanding.

It's a pleasure indeed hearing from "Betnomi" casino representative once again about the state of your casino and possible way forward after series of several scam accusations led against you, of which I'm happy to hear you guys having plans on resolving all claims, both deposit & withdrawal issues led against your casino. But if only had you come up to tell the bitcoin community about this challenge long time ago, we all would have understood and remain patient enough knowing fully well you guys were under attack. And however, it is never too late to prove your reputation, but if only you can keep to  your world and not act like 1xbit,

He could have told us before what was going on, sure; his clients and gamblers who still had money deposited there would have appreciated that gesture, but I assume it did not happen because this representative and the people left in the casino who were not involved with the exit scam were still trying to gather information on what was going on, they would have initially assumed all this mess was the result of some hacker messing around with their webpage and then gaining power over their private keys, but they later realized it was an inside job by their former associates. If they came and give a explanation too early, it could have resulted in inaccurate statements which could have make people to further experiment confusion and distrust towards their intentions.

Thay have already taken the first and most difficult step towards solving this mess, we can hope they manage to pay back the same community which home the casino.

[SamReomo]

This thread sounds like Mt. Gox promises and I guess that the users will have to wait their whole lives to get refunded because such cases never get solved, and the Betnomi will continue to create such threads in order to give hopes to the users who has lost their funds. If Betnomi is really committed to refunding the users then it's a good thing but I still think they will just make such promises and won't refund anyone.

[pakhitheboss]

This thread sounds like Mt. Gox promises and I guess that the users will have to wait their whole lives to get refunded because such cases never get solved, and the Betnomi will continue to create such threads in order to give hopes to the users who has lost their funds. If Betnomi is really committed to refunding the users then it's a good thing but I still think they will just make such promises and won't refund anyone.

Let's wait and watch as it is too early to come to any conclusion. If they are committed to what they have said they would start the process as early as possible. If not then we would hear from those on the thread that they have not kept their promise. I still think that we should give them another chance and not start comparing them with other big exit scams. They have informed us of the reason why they suddenly stopped their service and it is better to wait some more time. If they refund the money they won't regain any lost trust it is just that it would help them in their new project.

[Wind_FURY]

In fact, if you had mentioned this situation from the start, perhaps everyone would not have accused Betnomi of negative things and also been angry with you, as if you had abandoned everyone without any reason or information, thus making many people despair about their money on the previous Betnomi site. , but after you explain this maybe some people will be happy and at least their money will actually be returned.

Nahhh, Nothing will change if they mention this earlier or not as long as they still hold the funds of users because all players money should be backed 1:1 and can be withdraw at all time. There’s no excuse about holding their customers if they are having some inner struggle since customers money is not their money so they should allow withdrawal even if the problem is going on.

Affected user will still accuse them of scammer even if they give this statement on day 1. It’s very simple that they should open all withdrawal at anytime hough if they didn’t runaway the money. We are not sure either if the OP is telling the truth because there’s no evidence that backed his word.

The only way for Betnomi's admins to prove their trustworthiness and save their reputation is to pay ALL their users back ALL their money first, BUT it's also not a guarantee that they'll be trusted by the entire community again. Because if I had my money locked for months in a centralized service and the money was given back to me, I would never use any service owned or operated by those people again. One period of mental/emotional stress with them is enough.

[piebeyb]

In fact, if you had mentioned this situation from the start, perhaps everyone would not have accused Betnomi of negative things and also been angry with you, as if you had abandoned everyone without any reason or information, thus making many people despair about their money on the previous Betnomi site. , but after you explain this maybe some people will be happy and at least their money will actually be returned.

Nahhh, Nothing will change if they mention this earlier or not as long as they still hold the funds of users because all players money should be backed 1:1 and can be withdraw at all time. There’s no excuse about holding their customers if they are having some inner struggle since customers money is not their money so they should allow withdrawal even if the problem is going on.

Affected user will still accuse them of scammer even if they give this statement on day 1. It’s very simple that they should open all withdrawal at anytime hough if they didn’t runaway the money. We are not sure either if the OP is telling the truth because there’s no evidence that backed his word.

Perhaps if the Betnomi team had come out earlier than this,  a lot could have been prevented such as the reputation and red tags that were given to the official Betnomi account should and could have been prevented,  but coming now after several months of inactivity to state that the domain has been attacked is something that will take a lot of replies and convictions of the gamblers who may have suffered from this event that happened to betnomi.

Another thing to note is the fact that there is no timeline as to when the users whose funds are held in the casino but the only promises which is something that we have to take them for and let us be on the lookout for another announcement from how fast the new domain will be launched.

Yes, that's right, because after all maintaining customer trust is very important and also if that trust has been damaged then it will be difficult to build a reputation again, let's just say Betnomi has failed and with this thread intends to return users' money, I think it's difficult to gain trust again if that's the case in the end there is a project built by the same person at betnomi, I think that is the risk that the betnomi team must bear.

I will probably see more updates here as well on how they properly refund users and I want to see if the users will leave them or will still try the new project as a replacement betnomi which as explained by the OP in this thread has developed its own casino tools, Let's hope they actually return it and all users get their money on time, everyone will be looking forward to the latest news

[passwordnow]

The only way for Betnomi's admins to prove their trustworthiness and save their reputation is to pay ALL their users back ALL their money first, BUT it's also not a guarantee that they'll be trusted by the entire community again. Because if I had my money locked for months in a centralized service and the money was given back to me, I would never use any service owned or operated by those people again. One period of mental/emotional stress with them is enough.

For the sake that have been in trouble with their funds as they have became trusted by these users. They will just have to accept whatever is going to be the feedback of these people, whether they will say that they will still be trusted then that is good on their part.

But if these people after receiving their moneyback starts to say that they are not recommended and will never be back and gamble there again. They just have to accept any words from them and there is nothing they can do but to be in good faith and just return all of the pendings, either big or small amounts. As they have said, anyone who is eligible for that shall do.

[Wiwo]

The only way for Betnomi's admins to prove their trustworthiness and save their reputation is to pay ALL their users back ALL their money first, BUT it's also not a guarantee that they'll be trusted by the entire community again. Because if I had my money locked for months in a centralized service and the money was given back to me, I would never use any service owned or operated by those people again. One period of mental/emotional stress with them is enough.

For the sake that have been in trouble with their funds as they have became trusted by these users. They will just have to accept whatever is going to be the feedback of these people, whether they will say that they will still be trusted then that is good on their part.

But if these people after receiving their moneyback starts to say that they are not recommended and will never be back and gamble there again. They just have to accept any words from them and there is nothing they can do but to be in good faith and just return all of the pendings, either big or small amounts. As they have said, anyone who is eligible for that shall do.

I think what is most important at this point is not wether the betnomi team gain the trust of the community of not because their have already been down and at some point they announce that they are going to have domain name changes, which means the Betnomi we used to know is now scam and should remain like that.

But if the same team can make refunds as promised,  it then becomes another challenge for them to win the trust of the community and how they can do that,  is through adequate improvement and commitment to the promises.