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September 29, 2014, 10:36:11 AM
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Nice touch LTEX, had me spiking for a minute and then realized what you did haha. You are correct. We can contact a mixture of companies big and small. I'm also working on a payment tool that would make NLG incredibly useful in daily life. Hopefully the technical side of things can be made, I asked BioMike to pitch in on that. So we'll see where we land Wink

Also, I've written a "what can I do" page for the Guldencoin website. I'm not sure when that'll be live on there, it's going to be a Dutch only page for now. Will translate it soon, so more people can get in on the action Cheesy.

@LTEX do you know anyone at a chain or some owners of franchises of MCD or BK in NL for example? We can approach them first and spread out from there.
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September 29, 2014, 10:52:03 AM
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@LTEX do you know anyone at a chain or some owners of franchises of MCD or BK in NL for example? We can approach them first and spread out from there.
What about this one?


Serious now, I've been in the business for quite a while now and know many larger merchants, including the above. Therefore I also know we are not going te get them in that easy. What we can do is build up a network of smaller, more accessible stores and draw their attention.

There are so many ways to get this done, most of them easier than you might think. Maybe we can combine efforts to build up a marketingteam around NLG?

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September 29, 2014, 12:54:13 PM
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I've been following with great interest the discussion on how to fix the current issue and something related came to mind concerning updates in general. One of the problems I see with crypto wallets is that it requires a total replacement of the compiled wallet file and, action by the user, to perform any sort of an upgrade short of changing the conf file. This limits the Dev's ability to push out new code and evaluate it's effect on the network while leaving some wallets not upgraded until the user gets around to it.

So, I was thinking, would it be possible to make sections of the wallet code, such as diff algo, graphics, communications, etc, modules that could be upgraded on the fly by pushing the changes through a communications channel (like the network alert function) causing the wallet to auto upgrade without user intervention?

For example, you are trying to determine the final "fix" for the current problem without actually being able to run different scenarios to test the changes in real time, in the wild. If you could simply "broadcast" an update, it would allow an immediate upgrade. If something was not to your liking, you could put the old code (module) back almost immediately.

And for those who might say "too centralized", I say it's really no different that having everyone update to a new version of the wallet, just quicker and more efficient.

Something to consider...

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September 29, 2014, 01:08:39 PM
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So, I was thinking, would it be possible to make sections of the wallet code, such as diff algo, graphics, communications, etc, modules that could be upgraded on the fly by pushing the changes through a communications channel (like the network alert function) causing the wallet to auto upgrade without user intervention?

For example, you are trying to determine the final "fix" for the current problem without actually being able to run different scenarios to test the changes in real time, in the wild. If you could simply "broadcast" an update, it would allow an immediate upgrade. If something was not to your liking, you could put the old code (module) back almost immediately.

And for those who might say "too centralized", I say it's really no different that having everyone update to a new version of the wallet, just quicker and more efficient.

Something to consider...

Centrality is the least of your problems then, the security hole (with potential huge losses) would be a bigger problem. And lets say.. you're standing in the store planning to start paying and some update comes in, messes up your wallet (or the device of the shop owner)... people would not be happy with that.

Check the antivirus sector... enough examples where they messed up big with their daily auto-updates of virus definitions.
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September 29, 2014, 02:00:37 PM
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So, I was thinking, would it be possible to make sections of the wallet code, such as diff algo, graphics, communications, etc, modules that could be upgraded on the fly by pushing the changes through a communications channel (like the network alert function) causing the wallet to auto upgrade without user intervention?

For example, you are trying to determine the final "fix" for the current problem without actually being able to run different scenarios to test the changes in real time, in the wild. If you could simply "broadcast" an update, it would allow an immediate upgrade. If something was not to your liking, you could put the old code (module) back almost immediately.

And for those who might say "too centralized", I say it's really no different that having everyone update to a new version of the wallet, just quicker and more efficient.

Something to consider...

Centrality is the least of your problems then, the security hole (with potential huge losses) would be a bigger problem. And lets say.. you're standing in the store planning to start paying and some update comes in, messes up your wallet (or the device of the shop owner)... people would not be happy with that.

Check the antivirus sector... enough examples where they messed up big with their daily auto-updates of virus definitions.

Yes, I see your point here...  Just a thought.

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September 29, 2014, 02:02:35 PM
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The year is 2015...

... we all think back to the days clevermining was dumping out all the NLG into bitcoin...

...I wish they were still doing that. Sad
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September 29, 2014, 02:42:30 PM
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So, I was thinking, would it be possible to make sections of the wallet code, such as diff algo, graphics, communications, etc, modules that could be upgraded on the fly by pushing the changes through a communications channel (like the network alert function) causing the wallet to auto upgrade without user intervention?

For example, you are trying to determine the final "fix" for the current problem without actually being able to run different scenarios to test the changes in real time, in the wild. If you could simply "broadcast" an update, it would allow an immediate upgrade. If something was not to your liking, you could put the old code (module) back almost immediately.

And for those who might say "too centralized", I say it's really no different that having everyone update to a new version of the wallet, just quicker and more efficient.

Something to consider...

Centrality is the least of your problems then, the security hole (with potential huge losses) would be a bigger problem. And lets say.. you're standing in the store planning to start paying and some update comes in, messes up your wallet (or the device of the shop owner)... people would not be happy with that.

Check the antivirus sector... enough examples where they messed up big with their daily auto-updates of virus definitions.

Yes, I see your point here...  Just a thought.

No problem, for a test network it would be a fine thing. Just not in a production environment, where mistakes can cost a lot of money.
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September 29, 2014, 03:36:33 PM
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Looking at the block explorer and difficulty graph I get the impression things are becoming more stable. Or is that just me?
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September 29, 2014, 05:44:44 PM
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http://www.guldencoinlinks.nl/betalen.html

Guldencoin merchants links
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September 29, 2014, 06:32:03 PM
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thanks for the site!  very handy!

Another mining calculator for your list:

http://www.whattomine.com/coins/64-nlg-scrypt

I believe the site owner visits here from time to time.

Of course with the way clevermining is jumping in and out and the difficulty bouncing around, not sure how valuable these  mining calculators are.. 

NLG charts, richlist, and mining stats - http://nlgstats.nl
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September 29, 2014, 07:48:46 PM
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Ok, here is a preliminary design for business cards I plan to print for distribution among dutch supporters.

The plan is to get enthousiasts to go to local shops they regularly visit anyway and let them ask the store owners if it's possible to pay in Gulden. Then they can explain in their own terms and comfort why they want this and leave the card behind for the store owner to look at once he is not busy running the store anymore.

This takes away the sale pressure and gives room for a friendly approach.

Please shoot at the design and context Grin

Card-Front:

Card-Back:

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September 29, 2014, 08:01:14 PM
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Ok, here is a preliminary design for business cards I plan to print for distribution among dutch supporters.

The plan is to get enthousiasts to go to local shops they regularly visit anyway and let them ask the store owners if it's possible to pay in Gulden. Then they can explain in their own terms and comfort why they want this and leave the card behind for the store owner to look at once he is not busy running the store anymore.

This takes away the sale pressure and gives room for a friendly approach.

Please shoot at the design and context Grin

Card-Front:

Card-Back:


Looks good man! I personally would not type everything cursive that's all.  Grin
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September 29, 2014, 08:02:02 PM
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Please shoot at the design and context Grin

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I like the design and the message. Good to have such visitcards!
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September 29, 2014, 08:23:05 PM
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thanks for the site!  very handy!

Another mining calculator for your list:

http://www.whattomine.com/coins/64-nlg-scrypt

I believe the site owner visits here from time to time.

Of course with the way clevermining is jumping in and out and the difficulty bouncing around, not sure how valuable these  mining calculators are.. 

i have add the site to my website
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September 29, 2014, 08:32:14 PM
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And while the press is busy printing the business cards, why not start another creating Bumperstickers Grin


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September 29, 2014, 08:37:55 PM
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found this url http://www.guldencoinclub.nl  http://www.mindelements.nl and http://com-http.us/coins/nlg
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September 29, 2014, 09:41:25 PM
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And while the press is busy printing the business cards, why not start another creating Bumperstickers Grin



Tommorow i will sent an e-mail to rijk because i want to make an NLG merchandise website with tshirts, sweathers (no polo's haha), stickers and other promo stuff.

Like your design of the businesscard! do you mind if i show a version how i would make it?

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September 29, 2014, 09:52:12 PM
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And while the press is busy printing the business cards, why not start another creating Bumperstickers Grin



Tommorow i will sent an e-mail to rijk because i want to make an NLG merchandise website with tshirts, sweathers (no polo's haha), stickers and other promo stuff.

Like your design of the businesscard! do you mind if i show a version how i would make it?

like your idea! nice!  pay with guldencoin?  Grin Cool
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September 29, 2014, 09:54:50 PM
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Like your design of the businesscard! do you mind if i show a version how i would make it?

Please do!  Smiley

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September 29, 2014, 09:58:14 PM
Last edit: September 29, 2014, 11:05:00 PM by bram_vnl
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https://comkort.com/vote   vote
https://hitbtc.com/vote   vote
https://www.cryptsy.com/coinvotes vote

Not up-to-date https://guldencoin.com/pay-here

Not see this websites

http://www.nerf-kopen.com
http://www.bitscoinshop.com.br/en

http://nl.coinmill.com/EUR_NLG.html#NLG ---> Het werd vervangen met de Euro (EUR) op 1 Januari, 1999, en de prijs klopt niet
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