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December 12, 2025, 09:37:39 AM |
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I never rush to talk about favorites in the Champions League until the play-off stage begins. Because by that time a lot of things can still change. It is only December now, and the final stage will take place closer to the end of spring. That is a lot of time, and because of that everything can change. For now Arsenal is indeed very good., and the fact that they managed to beat Bayern is also a very significant indicator for me. But I am not rushing with conclusions yet, and I will evaluate the results and the potential of the teams closer to the quarterfinal stage. Of course, you're not entirely wrong to make this kind of observation. For me, it remains the most beautiful competition in the world after the national team competition. So many very strong teams play and compete to win the Champions Cup, and it's no coincidence. It's actually great to watch Champions League matches. Yes you are right. I completely agree with you. I like watching the league games more than the national team games. Because in the league games, a team has very high quality players and every part of the league team is very strong. Every match in the league is very exciting and very aggressive. But if we talk about the national team, we will see that many teams play very well and many teams play very badly, and there are many players who play much better in the league than the national team.
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December 12, 2025, 10:02:42 AM |
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Of course, you're not entirely wrong to make this kind of observation. For me, it remains the most beautiful competition in the world after the national team competition. So many very strong teams play and compete to win the Champions Cup, and it's no coincidence. It's actually great to watch Champions League matches.
The Champions League always offers quite exciting matches, and this is always presented every season, which is why so many people love the Champions League, in addition to the domestic leagues, which are equally interesting to watch. I think this season's competition in the Champions League will be much fiercer than last season, and that will be true in the next round or after the current standings are completed. And now what we need to see is which team will be able to stay in the Champions League for a long time, or at least reach the final this season.
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December 12, 2025, 10:06:49 AM |
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This defeat is a bad match from Real Madrid players but they can not use Mbappe absence as reason for this result. Real Madrid actually began to have bad results in recent matches even with Mbappe in their squad. Moving towards future, Xabi Alonso will have many works to do with players while he has been under pressure of being sack in coming weeks. With latest bad results, there is raising question like whether he will be sacked. I think that at this moment you can't underestimate any team and this is what happened with Real Madrid and other teams that are considered the best of all, right now, there are no conditions to understand who is better than another except for some teams but they are few
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December 12, 2025, 10:14:12 AM |
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Even Manchester City are not really doing well, their performance had dropped since last season.
Last season was one to forget for Pep Guardiola and Manchester City, but they are doing much better this season. They are not yet at their best, but we have to remember that even in their good seasons, they are usually impeccable during the run-in. So we cannot actually judge them now. If they stay close enough to the top of the table, then in March or so, they could kick into their best form and go on one of their famous winning runs, which more often than not culminates in City winning the title. Pep Guardiola is not who we say he is. He's not going to retire any time soon because he's determined and ambitious to win the English Premier League titles and also including the UEFA Champions League title. With Pep Guardiola and his formidable squad, Manchester City are capable of winning any games without stress. This is what we love to see and talk about because a team like Manchester City can win games comfortably. Manchester City are trying to get back on track after their bad performance last season, so for that i do not think Manchester City are capable of winning any games without stress because their permance has dropped so badly. Pep Guardiola wanted to retire last season after the premier league season ended, but i believe Manchester City's bad performance prevented Pep Guardiola from retiring as Manchester City coach. Pep Guardiola has done so much for Manchester City, and i believe if Pep Guardiola wins the premier league title or champions league for Manchester City, he might likely retire as Manchester City coach when the season ends.
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December 12, 2025, 10:32:45 AM |
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That win against Inter is still keeping Slot's seat safer. But not completely of course. They are doing good in the Champions League by still keeping a high chance for even top 8. But in the Premier League things are still bad. As for the Real Madrid - Manchester City match, the more deserving side won. It's that simple to me honestly. Real Madrid didn't even have their usual starting 11 but still did their best.  You think Monaco is a small team? The fact that they drew with Manchester city and won PSG already this season should let you know that Monaco are not a small club to underrate. Galatasary and Monaco are almost in the same range, their leagues are almost the same in terms of strength but for me I will rate the French league 1 as more superior the Turkish league. Monaco that won the current champions league holder and you think they couldn't win Turkish champions you are joking.
Mate please show me where I mentioned them as a "small team". It looks like you didn't understand me or read the whole post carefully. All I'm saying is that Monaco aren't as good as in the previous years.
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December 12, 2025, 10:34:01 AM |
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Of course, you're not entirely wrong to make this kind of observation. For me, it remains the most beautiful competition in the world after the national team competition. So many very strong teams play and compete to win the Champions Cup, and it's no coincidence. It's actually great to watch Champions League matches.
Si indeed it is a perfect game, the competition of competitions, so incredible that i am no longer surprised, there are so many teams that play to reach a high level and they all play to win that's why it's beautiful to watch these games, now they are much more competitive with this method
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December 12, 2025, 10:34:58 AM |
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Real Madrid wouldn't sacked Xabi Alonso even if they fail to secure victory against Alaves. Xabi Alonso is a great coach, under his guidance, Real Madrid performance has improve effectively. Real Madrid under Carlos Anecelotti underperformed badly which led to his sacked and Xabi Alonso was brought on board. Carlos Anecelotti isn't a better coach than Xabi Alonso, instead they're both experienced Coaches. However, Xabi Alonso team will defeat Alaves by a large margin.
I disagree if you say Ancelotti is not a better coach than Xabi Alonso, the comparison between the two is very significant, Ancelotti is far superior in terms of trophies and experience. Ancelotti dismissal stemmed from his failure to compete with Barcelona in La Liga and his failure in the Champions League. Real Madrid were also tempted by Alonso trophy winning performance with Leverkusen. Now the situation is not much different from last season, Real Madrid is starting to lose momentum, the defeat to Man City has made the situation even more heated, even though Xabi managed to lead Real Madrid to defeat Alaves, the victory will not change the situation.
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giorgione
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December 12, 2025, 10:35:23 AM |
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Yes true the game was unusual, they usually score several goals, instead it was a monotonous game, the only good thing that was eventful on the pitch, but few goals made everything less fun. Yesterday's matches were very eventful, the most disappointing being Real Madrid's defeat.
Yes, now the idea for the teams is to minimize injuries since all the most important ones have qualified or are travelling at a high level and therefore those who have to play limit the possible damage that will occur, it is clear that this thing is applied to all the big clubs, but some just can't manage it like Real Madrid
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December 12, 2025, 11:56:16 AM |
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December 12, 2025, 12:06:10 PM |
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I never rush to talk about favorites in the Champions League until the play-off stage begins. Because by that time a lot of things can still change. It is only December now, and the final stage will take place closer to the end of spring. That is a lot of time, and because of that everything can change. For now Arsenal is indeed very good., and the fact that they managed to beat Bayern is also a very significant indicator for me. But I am not rushing with conclusions yet, and I will evaluate the results and the potential of the teams closer to the quarterfinal stage. Of course, you're not entirely wrong to make this kind of observation. For me, it remains the most beautiful competition in the world after the national team competition. So many very strong teams play and compete to win the Champions Cup, and it's no coincidence. It's actually great to watch Champions League matches. There will still be so many surprises after entering the knockout round, as we see now, Real Madrid, the king of this competition, is struggling due to its poor performance in the last few matches, maybe this team will rise after going through the League stage or even experience bad luck if it meets teams that perform consistently like Arsenal and Bayern Munich. It is currently very difficult to predict who will be the champion, this is what makes the UCL the best European competition at club level because there are so many great teams competing for the trophy.
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December 12, 2025, 12:06:45 PM |
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Real Madrid wouldn't sacked Xabi Alonso even if they fail to secure victory against Alaves. Xabi Alonso is a great coach, under his guidance, Real Madrid performance has improve effectively. Real Madrid under Carlos Anecelotti underperformed badly which led to his sacked and Xabi Alonso was brought on board. Carlos Anecelotti isn't a better coach than Xabi Alonso, instead they're both experienced Coaches. However, Xabi Alonso team will defeat Alaves by a large margin.
I had read that yes but maybe i was wrong and it was all a misunderstanding, clearly these guys are still very taken with their coach, but now i don't know if it was right to let him stay since he can't give the results hoped for, i am a little sorry but that's how it is
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December 12, 2025, 12:11:21 PM |
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None of my last bets were successful. I've placed bets on Real-Manchester City and Benfica-Napoli ending with draws, but Man City and Benfica won without any problems. I've also placed a bet on Newcastle winning versus Leverkusen, but the game ended 2-2. Maybe it's time for me to quit sports betting for a while(or focus on another sport and stop betting on football). Grin Another unexpected result was Athletic and PSG ending 0-0, but luckily I didn't place a bet for PSG winning the match. Arsenal shows a great performance, but I'm still not convinced that they can win the Champions League.
I feel your pain and I must admit that sports betting can be quite frustrating when they don give the expected results. So many games that went down on Wednesday should have made one win but it's just annoying that the options you select may not be the option they comes out. Take for instance a situation where you give PSG straight win but they ended up in a draw. If quiting would help, maybe you should do it. Arsenal seem to be doing well but like I said in one of my replies, I just hope that this fine form the Gunners are displaying both in the UCL and EPL, if they don't win any title, Arteta should be shown the door.
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December 12, 2025, 12:12:46 PM |
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I can't find the right reason to explain why Xabi Alonso chose not to play Kylan Mbappe in the match against Manchester City. I thought Mbappe was out due to injury but he didn't look injured and just watched Real Madrid lose from the bench. If you want to say that this is Xabi Alonso's fault, it is not necessarily justified because Alonso had other plans that he did not convey to the public.
Monaco and Benfica are two teams that Real Madrid must win to ensure they qualify without Harylus through the play-offs, but of these two teams, only Monaco looks difficult to win because Monaco also has a target of not losing points in order to secure a ticket to the next round.
Mbappe does have a muscle problem, and if he is forced to play in the match, there are concerns that his condition could worsen. Therefore, the club seems to prefer not to play him rather than risk losing Mbappe to a more serious injury. Even though Real Madrid will have to suffer defeat in the match because Real Madrid does not have a reliable striker who can finish off attacks. However, in the upcoming matches, Real Madrid seems to have easier opponents. Monaco and Benfica should not be underestimated, especially Benfica, which surprised everyone by defeating Napoli in the previous match.
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December 12, 2025, 12:48:34 PM |
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Exactly, I was surprised that Manchester City only managed to score 2 goals, that Real Madrid defence is just so easy to penetrate and City would have scored more if not for the heroics of Courtois, he made some good quality saves to keep the score line respectable. I just pity Real Madrid because of the their injury issues and I wonder why a big club like this still hasn't been able to solve their defence injury problems. Lately, these big clubs have lost a bit of the art of defending and it seems like everyone has focused on finding very strong attackers. i don't know why now but i see it this way and this makes me a bit confused, because first of all, in big teams you look for a strong defender who allows you to avoid conceding goals.
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December 12, 2025, 12:54:35 PM |
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High time the world gives Arsenal their flowers, the level of consistency they have gathered both in the league game and champions league is outstanding. Do you all recall how Club Brugge dealt with Barcelona at home, I mean they scored three goals against a Barcelona side but couldn't do the same with Arsenal despite being one of the best attacking sides the season. Madueke we all said will improve moving to a new environment and he's done just that like we all predicted. Another important win as they move on to welcome Wolverhampton at hom who has been the worst side this season
Arsenal have been incredibly consistent this season, both in the Premier League and the Champions League, and they've already secured first place in both competitions. But that's still not enough for Arsenal, as the second half of the season and the knockout stages of the Champions League will be even more competitive, requiring even greater levels of consistency. So, for now, Arsenal just need to stay strong and maintain their current form so that they can make even greater improvements in the second half of the season. The fewer opponents there are, the fiercer and tougher their resistance becomes, with more mature strategies and higher intensity. This is no longer about collecting points in the group stage, but about surviving in elimination matches where one mistake can result in defeat. Arsenal need to adjust their approach, perhaps putting more emphasis on fast transitional defending, using high pressing and wing attacks. Arsenal can rely on the pace of Saka and others to exploit counter attacks. Another key strategy is player rotation, which is crucial high intensity can lead to physical and mental fatigue. The goal is to maintain optimal performance throughout the match, reduce the risk of injury, maintain energy, and increase productivity. These strategies complement each other rotation keeps the team fresh, while video analysis ensures targeted tactics. When implemented effectively, both can significantly increase the chances of winning.
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December 12, 2025, 01:52:35 PM |
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I don't think the results of either match were surprising. Real Madrid losing to Manchester City is perfectly natural, something that could happen every season. We can't call that a surprise. PSG drawing away from home is also a normal situation. They don't have to win every game after all, we're still in the league stage. If this had been a single-elimination match, I'm sure PSG would have played with more focus and would have won if they had to. But in an 8-game league system, a draw in Spain is not a bad result. I'm sure PSG will play much better after the round of last 16.
Wins and loses are always part of the play, but sometime few defeats create too much noise as happen in this game between Real Madrid vs Manchester City both are balanced sides with good level of top players and have enough depth to fight till last drop of blood in game. Real Madrid miss too many chances these were crucial and handed them defeat now still it's not bad for Real Madrid because they have enough time to fight back and gain their confidence back but this also needed good coordination between players and coach if they fail to end this rift things could be on lowest level with coach can lose his job this could be another below for the club.
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December 12, 2025, 02:11:34 PM |
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Hey babo, I noticed something! After Inter lost 1-0 to Liverpool, our dear friend Lillominato89 disappeared! He hasn't logged in since!! Lol! I feel sorry for our dear friend! Inter didn't deserve to lose the other night, but that's football!! The refereeing mistakes clearly affected the match. But I'm sure Inter will make it through to the next round. Your Atalanta plays better in the Champions League than in the league! See?
I hope Lillo comes back to write, what do you think? Shall we tease him a little?
How do you like to tease a poor Inter fan, eh? Unfortunately, my beloved Inter lost, even though they didn't play badly! The referee's decisions were truly unacceptable! Inter should have had a penalty for a handball that the referee didn't give, and even VAR didn't make the right call! The penalty that gave Liverpool the win, according to 99% of the other referees, wasn't a penalty... I don't know! I don't want to be controversial, but certain mistakes in certain competitions are not acceptable.
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December 12, 2025, 02:45:45 PM |
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Pepe Guardiola is well aware about his problems and also know how to set them from the last season, they were badly hurt by performance and injuries but now suddenly they are back in business with this big win against Real Madrid at Bernabéu, now it seems that they are with good confidence.
There chances are high for having good performance in upcoming matches and handling down big surprise to everyone, this could be interesting as how they are going to perform in upcoming matches and Arsenal and champions league campaign is also going to be exciting for them and their opponents. Because while they are at their best it's never been easy for anyone to stop them and have positive result.
When i read Pepe Guardiola i couldn't help but think of the green frog Pepe and i had a good laugh, thanks for that. In any case, Manchester City is very strong, so i would tell everyone not to underestimate his strength. He knows how to manage a winning team.
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December 12, 2025, 02:59:07 PM |
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None of my last bets were successful. I've placed bets on Real-Manchester City and Benfica-Napoli ending with draws, but Man City and Benfica won without any problems. I've also placed a bet on Newcastle winning versus Leverkusen, but the game ended 2-2. Maybe it's time for me to quit sports betting for a while(or focus on another sport and stop betting on football). Grin Another unexpected result was Athletic and PSG ending 0-0, but luckily I didn't place a bet for PSG winning the match. Arsenal shows a great performance, but I'm still not convinced that they can win the Champions League.
Draws are usually rated at around 3+, a Newcastle win was probably rated at 2+. It's perfectly normal that you didn't guess the outcomes, with odds like these, even a losing streak of 8-10 games is completely normal. You also have to take into account that these are group stage games where the result is not so important, because the teams are now prioritizing their national championships. Serious games will only start with the playoffs, and even then, maybe only in the return games.
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Unfortunately, my beloved Inter lost, even though they didn't play badly! The referee's decisions were truly unacceptable! Inter should have had a penalty for a handball that the referee didn't give, and even VAR didn't make the right call! The penalty that gave Liverpool the win, according to 99% of the other referees, wasn't a penalty... I don't know! I don't want to be controversial, but certain mistakes in certain competitions are not acceptable.
I am not at all satisfied with Inter Milan's performance. Let's not forget that this was Inter milan's home match. Considering it was a home match, Inter Milan should have performed better. How can I consider only 2 on target shots in the whole match as a good performance ? If Liverpool were in good form, I would not have criticized Inter Milan's performance. Liverpool were not in good form. Even then, Inter Milan could not dominate their home match. And that is their big failure. Anyway, Inter Milan's boys need to play more carefully against the big teams. If they perform like this, they will not be able to do well in the knockout rounds. Inter Milan will lose only if they face teams like Munich, Madrid or Barcelona.
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