⚽ FIFA World Cup 2030: Morocco, Portugal, Spain, Argentina, Paraguay, Uruguay ⚽

[cande86]

I completely agree with what you said about Ronaldo. he is a legend. He is outstanding, given the dedication he has shown to the world of football. It is only natural that he serves as a role model. It is rare to find a player so focused on maintaining his fitness and physical condition that he is still playing at his current age, having scored 979 goals and closing in on the 1,000 goal mark I find that truly extraordinary. The younger generation should emulate what Ronaldo has done. if young people want to succeed as professional players, they should follow the example of his hard work and high level of discipline.

As much as younger generations tend to emulate him, another player with the qualities, the characteristics of Cristiano Ronaldo will never exist again. Simply because, in terms of way of thinking, attitude, consistency and consistency, there is no athlete who is close to him in the world of football.
And i don't think it will come in the future either. And that's why i still hope he can play for a long time, because it would be heartbreaking to see him leave the world of football.

[HustleZ]

As much as younger generations tend to emulate him, another player with the qualities, the characteristics of Cristiano Ronaldo will never exist again. Simply because, in terms of way of thinking, attitude, consistency and consistency, there is no athlete who is close to him in the world of football.
And i don't think it will come in the future either. And that's why i still hope he can play for a long time, because it would be heartbreaking to see him leave the world of football.

Ronaldo is undoubtedly in the debates of one of the great Players to ever play football, and his dedication to a sport, himself. His discipline and hardwork makes him different from other players and that’s the reason he is so successful but you have to remember that hard work is repeatable, but talent is not. Messi is Talent, periodt. What messi has done in the sport can not be replicated or recreated ever again, he was a playmaker with exceptional goal scoring records— he was an attackerr with outstanding playmaking records and thats what makes him inevitable. Ronaldo is a great player but no where near messi. Messi is better than Ronaldo at any attribute in football.

[Pandorak]

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He remains the perfect player, the best player in the world and the best athlete i have ever seen in football. One for how he trains and for the consistency and consistency he puts behind this sport. Two for all the records broken, despite a FIFA that can be said to be against him and for the almost, it is incredible record of the thousand goals he achieved.

There’s no reason to hate Cristiano Ronaldo, he’s truly an inspiring figure.
I agree with you, he embodies hard work, everything he’s achieved so far is the result of his consistency. I think that even without winning the World Cup, he’s already achieved everything he’s ever dreamed of, all that’s left is 1,000 goals and we’ll see that happen soon.

As for FIFA, i don’t want to comment further, we can see how credible they are during the World Cup, it’s truly disappointing.

[danadc]

It is not right to make decisions based on emotions. If you had an impartial view, you probably would not have said this. However, in the end, you are probably trying to improve the reputation of the person you supported, which is of course your personal matter.

I would never say, objectively, that FIFA or any other organization deliberately gives one player an advantage over another. The claim you are making may be your personal opinion, but there is no evidence for it. In football, we will usually have differences of opinion about players, men and decisions, because each person here values ​​​​different things.

No, not at all. I'm just saying what I saw. For me, it wasn't one of those World Cups that you watch with such excitement and joy when you're a kid. Everywhere I went, everyone was talking about cheating, and it was clear that it was like that. I don't know if the people who watch this and are more knowledgeable might think the same.

I'm following the league and I've seen everything that's been going on regarding the Ballon d'Or. Lamine is pushing his idea, and on the other hand, there are candidates who don't say much but stand out more. It's not because I'm against any team, but I've seen that there's a lot of help going to Lamine's team in the league. And something I've learned is that FIFA prefers the player who sells the most over the one who works hard and fights against the system.

[tiCeR]

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There’s no reason to hate Cristiano Ronaldo, he’s truly an inspiring figure.
I agree with you, he embodies hard work, everything he’s achieved so far is the result of his consistency. I think that even without winning the World Cup, he’s already achieved everything he’s ever dreamed of, all that’s left is 1,000 goals and we’ll see that happen soon.

As for FIFA, i don’t want to comment further, we can see how credible they are during the World Cup, it’s truly disappointing.

I think what makes it a small flaw is that he was a player for Portugal and not for some country that isn't all about football. They have had great teams and yet the truth is that winning the World Cup also requires quite a bit of luck. Now when he says he doesn't care, I don't believe him because he is one of the ambitious and arrogant players the sport has ever seen. The latter meant negatively, but he can't stop but telling the world that he was the best, is the best and will ever be the best and in light of those sentences, he would have been better off in public if he had won the World Cup once. That doesn't make him any less inspiring, but as consistent as he was as an athlete, his interviews and national team results are kind of inconsistent.

It's just when you are bragging about your own quality so much, saying that you don't care if you win it or not is very inconsistent. What made him so good is that he cared about winning all the time.

[Ale88]

I never understood people who support a player instead of a club or a country. I mean, I understand that because the way football changed, especially with social media, the most famous players became their own brand, but I'll never understand those "fans" who cheer for the player instead of the team. But also, to be fair, this usually mainly happens with people from countries with basically no football culture, so in many case we have these Messi vs Ronaldo discussions between people who are somewhere in Asia or in Africa, so they literally have nothing to do with these players.

Without proper investigation or research, you cannot conclude that the rivalry between Messi and Ronaldo is more extreme in Africa and Asia than on other continents. So many factors might have contributed to this assumption, including social media feeds. It is common to see these arguments by Africans or Asians on TikTok, X, Facebook, and Instagram because of the youthful population of these continents. Africans have a large number of young, passionate football fans, which helps them dominate global sports discussions.

Not having popular or well-organised local leagues in these continents might have also contributed to the massive interest these young fans have in the Messi-Ronaldo rivalry. Since they don't have locally celebrated players, they focus on these football icons.

Proper investigation? I'm European, I traveled around Europe and lived in different European countries too, I've never met a single European person telling me "I support Ronaldo", each one of them would say "I support this team", no matter how shitty the team was. As I said, it's a cultural thing, because usually people in Europe support teams from their own country/city. Then of course we can also sympathize for another team but that's a very different thing. But it's extremely uncommon for someone to support a team only for a specific player.

[retreat]

I think that every person has every right to prefer whoever they want, even if it isn't Messi or Ronaldo. Every person has their own idol and rightly so. It's not fair to choose for others. If someone claims that Messi is the best in the world it is right for them to believe it, just as if someone believes that Ronaldo is the best in the world it is right for them to believe it. There is no right and there is no wrong. One has won the World Cup, one will soon reach a thousand goals. Both two phenomena.

Everyone has their own view on who the best player is because there's no specific standard that can definitively determine who deserves that title. Some people may value certain individuals based on their personal achievements or the trophies they've won, that's up to them. What matters is that they can have a favorite player and still respect other people's choices. Because there are a lot of people who can't accept that others say player A or B is the best, and instead they turn that choice into a kind of trash talk, which to me is just childish.

[sergiorus]

I never understood people who support a player instead of a club or a country. I mean, I understand that because the way football changed, especially with social media, the most famous players became their own brand, but I'll never understand those "fans" who cheer for the player instead of the team. But also, to be fair, this usually mainly happens with people from countries with basically no football culture, so in many case we have these Messi vs Ronaldo discussions between people who are somewhere in Asia or in Africa, so they literally have nothing to do with these players.

Without proper investigation or research, you cannot conclude that the rivalry between Messi and Ronaldo is more extreme in Africa and Asia than on other continents. So many factors might have contributed to this assumption, including social media feeds. It is common to see these arguments by Africans or Asians on TikTok, X, Facebook, and Instagram because of the youthful population of these continents. Africans have a large number of young, passionate football fans, which helps them dominate global sports discussions.

Not having popular or well-organised local leagues in these continents might have also contributed to the massive interest these young fans have in the Messi-Ronaldo rivalry. Since they don't have locally celebrated players, they focus on these football icons.

Proper investigation? I'm European, I traveled around Europe and lived in different European countries too, I've never met a single European person telling me "I support Ronaldo", each one of them would say "I support this team", no matter how shitty the team was. As I said, it's a cultural thing, because usually people in Europe support teams from their own country/city. Then of course we can also sympathize for another team but that's a very different thing. But it's extremely uncommon for someone to support a team only for a specific player.

Well it was pretty common to see the Portuguese supporting Ronaldo and his club wherever he played. Nothing wrong with that.

It's also very common for the less grand football nations to support the teams where their fellow countrymen play. For example, fans from Poland will usually support the team Lewandowski plays in. Same for, let's say, Haalland or Kvaratskhelia.

[danadc]

If Messi were to win another Ballon d'Or it is obviously clear to everyone that FIFA, or in any case whoever is behind this kind of recognition, is a clear fan of Messi. Because there are players who deserve much more. In the end he is simply grateful for a World Cup final this year, where he certainly demonstrated his skill despite his age, but he achieved nothing else, playing in a championship like the American one. There are players who really deserve much, much more.

According to Simeone, Casemiro and David Beckham said that Messi deserves the Ballon d'Or, and their opinion carries considerable weight; the journalists will undoubtedly take that into account.

But since this is so difficult, I don't know what they'll prefer: giving the last trophy to Messi or to Lamine. The other candidates seem to be completely off their radar, but it shouldn't be that way. They're being overhyped because of what they've done. Besides, didn't they see what Lamine said? That Ferran scored Spain's goal thanks to him?

[Ale88]

I never understood people who support a player instead of a club or a country. I mean, I understand that because the way football changed, especially with social media, the most famous players became their own brand, but I'll never understand those "fans" who cheer for the player instead of the team. But also, to be fair, this usually mainly happens with people from countries with basically no football culture, so in many case we have these Messi vs Ronaldo discussions between people who are somewhere in Asia or in Africa, so they literally have nothing to do with these players.

Without proper investigation or research, you cannot conclude that the rivalry between Messi and Ronaldo is more extreme in Africa and Asia than on other continents. So many factors might have contributed to this assumption, including social media feeds. It is common to see these arguments by Africans or Asians on TikTok, X, Facebook, and Instagram because of the youthful population of these continents. Africans have a large number of young, passionate football fans, which helps them dominate global sports discussions.

Not having popular or well-organised local leagues in these continents might have also contributed to the massive interest these young fans have in the Messi-Ronaldo rivalry. Since they don't have locally celebrated players, they focus on these football icons.

Proper investigation? I'm European, I traveled around Europe and lived in different European countries too, I've never met a single European person telling me "I support Ronaldo", each one of them would say "I support this team", no matter how shitty the team was. As I said, it's a cultural thing, because usually people in Europe support teams from their own country/city. Then of course we can also sympathize for another team but that's a very different thing. But it's extremely uncommon for someone to support a team only for a specific player.

Well it was pretty common to see the Portuguese supporting Ronaldo and his club wherever he played. Nothing wrong with that.

It's also very common for the less grand football nations to support the teams where their fellow countrymen play. For example, fans from Poland will usually support the team Lewandowski plays in. Same for, let's say, Haalland or Kvaratskhelia.

So Portuguese fans support Ronaldo, not Sporting Lisboa, Benfica or Porto for example? You know it doesn't make any sense what you just wrote, do you? At least in Europe, you grow up loving and supporting one team, and that stays for life. Nobody changes team every few years depending on which team a certain player moved to. That's not how football works.

[danadc]

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[sergiorus]

I never understood people who support a player instead of a club or a country. I mean, I understand that because the way football changed, especially with social media, the most famous players became their own brand, but I'll never understand those "fans" who cheer for the player instead of the team. But also, to be fair, this usually mainly happens with people from countries with basically no football culture, so in many case we have these Messi vs Ronaldo discussions between people who are somewhere in Asia or in Africa, so they literally have nothing to do with these players.

Without proper investigation or research, you cannot conclude that the rivalry between Messi and Ronaldo is more extreme in Africa and Asia than on other continents. So many factors might have contributed to this assumption, including social media feeds. It is common to see these arguments by Africans or Asians on TikTok, X, Facebook, and Instagram because of the youthful population of these continents. Africans have a large number of young, passionate football fans, which helps them dominate global sports discussions.

Not having popular or well-organised local leagues in these continents might have also contributed to the massive interest these young fans have in the Messi-Ronaldo rivalry. Since they don't have locally celebrated players, they focus on these football icons.

Proper investigation? I'm European, I traveled around Europe and lived in different European countries too, I've never met a single European person telling me "I support Ronaldo", each one of them would say "I support this team", no matter how shitty the team was. As I said, it's a cultural thing, because usually people in Europe support teams from their own country/city. Then of course we can also sympathize for another team but that's a very different thing. But it's extremely uncommon for someone to support a team only for a specific player.

Well it was pretty common to see the Portuguese supporting Ronaldo and his club wherever he played. Nothing wrong with that.

It's also very common for the less grand football nations to support the teams where their fellow countrymen play. For example, fans from Poland will usually support the team Lewandowski plays in. Same for, let's say, Haalland or Kvaratskhelia.

So Portuguese fans support Ronaldo, not Sporting Lisboa, Benfica or Porto for example? You know it doesn't make any sense what you just wrote, do you? At least in Europe, you grow up loving and supporting one team, and that stays for life. Nobody changes team every few years depending on which team a certain player moved to. That's not how football works.

Ronaldo hasn't played in Portuguese clubs in many years and I obviously meant that people support fellow countrymen playing outside their motherlands, it was clearly implied.

Maybe it's more about countries that don't have very strong local championships though.

I'm really surprised you didn't get what I meant.

[sompitonov]

Everyone has their own view on who the best player is because there's no specific standard that can definitively determine who deserves that title. Some people may value certain individuals based on their personal achievements or the trophies they've won, that's up to them. What matters is that they can have a favorite player and still respect other people's choices. Because there are a lot of people who can't accept that others say player A or B is the best, and instead they turn that choice into a kind of trash talk, which to me is just childish.

That certainly happens quite often after all, everyone wants their point of view heard and agreed with but the fact is that everyone is different everyone has their own favorite players and teams. There is really no need to try to prove anything to others in my view, it’s just a waste of time. It is better to focus on our own skills, try to devise betting strategies, improve our understanding of risk, and so on. And even if we don't want to do that, we can simply enjoy the football and the play of the national teams mentioned in the topic title. That is the path I prefer: I have no intention of proving anything to anyone else instead, I’d rather appreciate these matches and experience the thrill of them as we look toward 2030.

[GbitG]

If Messi were to win another Ballon d'Or it is obviously clear to everyone that FIFA, or in any case whoever is behind this kind of recognition, is a clear fan of Messi. Because there are players who deserve much more. In the end he is simply grateful for a World Cup final this year, where he certainly demonstrated his skill despite his age, but he achieved nothing else, playing in a championship like the American one. There are players who really deserve much, much more.

According to Simeone, Casemiro and David Beckham said that Messi deserves the Ballon d'Or, and their opinion carries considerable weight; the journalists will undoubtedly take that into account.

But since this is so difficult, I don't know what they'll prefer: giving the last trophy to Messi or to Lamine. The other candidates seem to be completely off their radar, but it shouldn't be that way. They're being overhyped because of what they've done. Besides, didn't they see what Lamine said? That Ferran scored Spain's goal thanks to him?

Well, it doesn't make sense....
It's is absolutely impossible for Messi to win the Balloon d'Or although he has an extraordinary performance at World Cup tournament and even in MSL too. But you should need to understand that Balloon d'Or always been handed to those who have good individual performance in big competition such World Cup, UEFA champions league etc. if Messi was the winner of 2026 World Cup then probably he will have a higher probabilities but right now for me it's just a partial shade.....

Besides that I will also elobrate it more that no doubt that Messi is a player we deeply respect. His contribution for football is unparalleled and we certainly will appreciate him. However because of the final like he lost the final. So that's why Messi doesn’t deserve the Ballon d’Or. it would be more appropriate to give it to Lamine Yamal.

[Iamgoat]

As much as younger generations tend to emulate him, another player with the qualities, the characteristics of Cristiano Ronaldo will never exist again. Simply because, in terms of way of thinking, attitude, consistency and consistency, there is no athlete who is close to him in the world of football.
And i don't think it will come in the future either. And that's why i still hope he can play for a long time, because it would be heartbreaking to see him leave the world of football.

Please o, as much as you like to eulogise Cristiano Ronaldo, saying there is no athlete who is close to him in terms of thinking, attitude and consistency may not be overly true. I remember couple of weeks ago I was checking the cover art used by Konami’s Pro Evolution Soccer and Ronaldo actually came first in being featured in the front cover since 2007 and also appeared in 2011, 2012 and 2020 Efootball PES 2021 together with Messi and just a year after Ronaldo first appeared, Messi continued to appear from 2008, 2009, 2010 consecutively then 2017, 2019, 2020 and 2022 which also showed he was highly consistent in his career gaining him such respect and business wise a product to keep selling at the front covey. I only decided to look at it from this angle alone, there are yet several different angles we can look at it to disqualify your claims above despite Ronaldo being the GOAT, Messi is also another GOAT to reckon with among other players out there.

[Powerjumboo]

Well it was pretty common to see the Portuguese supporting Ronaldo and his club wherever he played. Nothing wrong with that.

It's also very common for the less grand football nations to support the teams where their fellow countrymen play. For example, fans from Poland will usually support the team Lewandowski plays in. Same for, let's say, Haalland or Kvaratskhelia.

Those who have patriotism in their hearts will always love and support their country and their country's players. If a player from my country goes to another country and if he plays in a good club there, then of course I will support that player from my country and support that club and it is natural that this love comes from the heart and as I have said before, this love will arise automatically in those who have patriotism.

[danadc]

Besides that I will also elobrate it more that no doubt that Messi is a player we deeply respect. His contribution for football is unparalleled and we certainly will appreciate him. However because of the final like he lost the final. So that's why Messi doesn’t deserve the Ballon d’Or. it would be more appropriate to give it to Lamine Yamal.

I hope things turn out that way, but what I can think is that Lamine doesn't deserve it either. You know who deserves it if they're going to give it to a Barcelona player? Raphinha. But he's not nominated; he's the top scorer in La Liga despite all the controversies surrounding refereeing decisions.

This Ballon d'Or is going to attract a lot of attention because, given the state of football, it will be ripe for a lot of criticism, and rightly so. This time, journalists don't have it so easy with all the fans scrutinizing every decision they make.

[Ale88]

Ronaldo hasn't played in Portuguese clubs in many years and I obviously meant that people support fellow countrymen playing outside their motherlands, it was clearly implied.

So for you people support foreign teams just because a fellow countryman is playing for them? Can I ask you where are you from? Because I really struggle to understand this kind of reasoning. I'm Italian, and I would never think about supporting another team just because another Italian guy is playing for them. And I'm pretty sure Portuguese people don't give a damn about Al Nassr just because Ronaldo is playing for them.

[SPIDERMAN008]

I think that every person has every right to prefer whoever they want, even if it isn't Messi or Ronaldo. Every person has their own idol and rightly so. It's not fair to choose for others. If someone claims that Messi is the best in the world it is right for them to believe it, just as if someone believes that Ronaldo is the best in the world it is right for them to believe it. There is no right and there is no wrong. One has won the World Cup, one will soon reach a thousand goals. Both two phenomena.

Everyone has their own view on who the best player is because there's no specific standard that can definitively determine who deserves that title. Some people may value certain individuals based on their personal achievements or the trophies they've won, that's up to them. What matters is that they can have a favorite player and still respect other people's choices. Because there are a lot of people who can't accept that others say player A or B is the best, and instead they turn that choice into a kind of trash talk, which to me is just childish.

It seems to me that many people are linking the debate between Messi and Ronaldo, who is the best with their personal identity. When a person supports a player for a long time, it becomes part of their personal identity. When someone else speaks against their favorite player they think it is speaking against themselves. Even if those statements are true and logical, they cannot accept it easily. When these things happen to someone in real life negative reactions can still be seen. When happen online, they are also visible through opinions, reactions and posts.

I notice these things more on social media than on forum. Because since no one discusses completely irrelevant issues on forums, but social media is free for everyone, there are many negative aspects to be highlighted there.

[uneng]

I think that every person has every right to prefer whoever they want, even if it isn't Messi or Ronaldo. Every person has their own idol and rightly so. It's not fair to choose for others. If someone claims that Messi is the best in the world it is right for them to believe it, just as if someone believes that Ronaldo is the best in the world it is right for them to believe it. There is no right and there is no wrong. One has won the World Cup, one will soon reach a thousand goals. Both two phenomena.

Everyone has their own view on who the best player is because there's no specific standard that can definitively determine who deserves that title. Some people may value certain individuals based on their personal achievements or the trophies they've won, that's up to them. What matters is that they can have a favorite player and still respect other people's choices. Because there are a lot of people who can't accept that others say player A or B is the best, and instead they turn that choice into a kind of trash talk, which to me is just childish.

It seems to me that many people are linking the debate between Messi and Ronaldo, who is the best with their personal identity. When a person supports a player for a long time, it becomes part of their personal identity. When someone else speaks against their favorite player they think it is speaking against themselves. Even if those statements are true and logical, they cannot accept it easily. When these things happen to someone in real life negative reactions can still be seen. When happen online, they are also visible through opinions, reactions and posts.

I notice these things more on social media than on forum. Because since no one discusses completely irrelevant issues on forums, but social media is free for everyone, there are many negative aspects to be highlighted there.

Is there any doubts Messi is the best player in the world? I see he was much more decisive for Argentina along the history of world cups than Ronaldo for Portugal. It's not about having an opinion, but about analyzing the matches with facts. Ronaldo was constantly in the rival's area, just waiting a ball from his fellow to score the goal, while Messi was constantly moving from every position to position on the field to build the plays in the best way as possible to take his national team to victory.

Ronaldo is a good player, but Messi is a more complete player, since he can move into different positions and be efficient in all of them. Results of each teams speak for themselves.