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April 20, 2014, 01:40:06 AM
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The site looks great. I'll definitely be a frequent visitor.

A couple suggestions/comments:

--I have an R7 240. I don't know what the X11 hash rate is, nor do I necessarily care. I want to zero out that parameter as not to skew the results, but I am not allowed to. Instead, I enter in a 1. This workaround is fine for my purposes, but I feel there should be another way. Maybe you can put a checkbox next to each algorithm?

--Scrypt-N vs scrypt-jane/scrypt-chacha is really no different for mining. The Scrypt-N could be renamed Jane hash rate (Nf10).

--I would suggest "NFactor 10", "NFactor 11", "NFactor 12" and so forth for the names of each grouping--I don't think there is another type of 'NFactor'. There are many coins with scrypt-chacha out there:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aj3vcsuY-JFNdC1ITWJrSG9VeWp6QXppbVgxcm0tbGc&usp=drive_web#gid=0

--The other addition to put it over the top is again to have a 'Hardware Results (User Inputs)' link/section. People will surely rather rely on someone else's real world hash rate instead of going through the trouble of finding it themselves every time. Or you can just link to sairon's yacoin-specific version of what I'm talking about: http://yacoinwiki.tk/index.php/Mining_Hardware_Comparison

Thanks again for this great site. Do you have a YAC address for me to send a tip?

Hey Beave, actually scrypt-n (like vert) is NOT scrypt chacha but normal scrypt (salsa) with a higher n factor of 11 vs 10.

As for the rest, good ideas, the checkbox thing would be nice, and adding an n factor calculator with a list of coins would make it the absolute best calc out there (which already kinda is Wink ).

I can give the op results for most cards, for all those algorithms, whenever he wants to implement a few presets.

Thank you, Ivan. I'm looking forward to how this site develops.

I should have been more clear. I meant that there is no difference as far as mining them. I believe I can (I think I did) mine vertcoin (N-Scrypt) with ThirtyBird's YACMiner. Is that statement wrong? If it is true and since this site is all about mining profitability, it seems pointless to distinguish the two even though they are different algorithms.

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April 20, 2014, 02:00:27 AM
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The site looks great. I'll definitely be a frequent visitor.

A couple suggestions/comments:

--I have an R7 240. I don't know what the X11 hash rate is, nor do I necessarily care. I want to zero out that parameter as not to skew the results, but I am not allowed to. Instead, I enter in a 1. This workaround is fine for my purposes, but I feel there should be another way. Maybe you can put a checkbox next to each algorithm?

--Scrypt-N vs scrypt-jane/scrypt-chacha is really no different for mining. The Scrypt-N could be renamed Jane hash rate (Nf10).

--I would suggest "NFactor 10", "NFactor 11", "NFactor 12" and so forth for the names of each grouping--I don't think there is another type of 'NFactor'. There are many coins with scrypt-chacha out there:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aj3vcsuY-JFNdC1ITWJrSG9VeWp6QXppbVgxcm0tbGc&usp=drive_web#gid=0

--The other addition to put it over the top is again to have a 'Hardware Results (User Inputs)' link/section. People will surely rather rely on someone else's real world hash rate instead of going through the trouble of finding it themselves every time. Or you can just link to sairon's yacoin-specific version of what I'm talking about: http://yacoinwiki.tk/index.php/Mining_Hardware_Comparison

Thanks again for this great site. Do you have a YAC address for me to send a tip?

Hey Beave, actually scrypt-n (like vert) is NOT scrypt chacha but normal scrypt (salsa) with a higher n factor of 11 vs 10.

As for the rest, good ideas, the checkbox thing would be nice, and adding an n factor calculator with a list of coins would make it the absolute best calc out there (which already kinda is Wink ).

I can give the op results for most cards, for all those algorithms, whenever he wants to implement a few presets.

Thank you, Ivan. I'm looking forward to how this site develops.

I should have been more clear. I meant that there is no difference as far as mining them. I believe I can (I think I did) mine vertcoin (N-Scrypt) with ThirtyBird's YACMiner. Is that statement wrong? If it is true and since this site is all about mining profitability, it seems pointless to distinguish the two even though they are different algorithms.

Cards behave differently, not the same hash rates with the same gear when mining chacha n 10 vs scrypt-n (salsa) n 11 a la vert.

You tend to get way higher hash rates with chacha compared to scrypt, unless you go higher n factor wise.
Settings can be equal AFAIK. Just keep in mind chacha is equal to scrypt-n with one less n factor value (-1)
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April 20, 2014, 02:09:43 AM
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Cards behave differently, not the same hash rates with the same gear when mining chacha n 10 vs scrypt-n (salsa) n 11 a la vert.

You tend to get way higher hash rates with chacha compared to scrypt, unless you go higher n factor wise.
Settings can be equal AFAIK. Just keep in mind chacha is equal to scrypt-n with one less n factor value (-1)


So the exact same settings for vertcoin (NFactor 10) would be used for a chacha coin at NFactor 9? But the hash rates still won't be the same? I did not know that...

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April 20, 2014, 03:24:06 AM
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Cards behave differently, not the same hash rates with the same gear when mining chacha n 10 vs scrypt-n (salsa) n 11 a la vert.

You tend to get way higher hash rates with chacha compared to scrypt, unless you go higher n factor wise.
Settings can be equal AFAIK. Just keep in mind chacha is equal to scrypt-n with one less n factor value (-1)


So the exact same settings for vertcoin (NFactor 10) would be used for a chacha coin at NFactor 9? But the hash rates still won't be the same? I did not know that...

NFactor in N-Scrypt and Scrypt-Chacha both indicate the same amount of memory is needed per hash.  The difference is simply in the mixing function, and they will have slightly different hash rates.  For what I do with the mining settings, the same settings can be used, but for profitability, they should be treated separately as there can be a difference in the hashrate.  Maybe I should do a comparison....

and yes, YACMiner can mine NScrypt.

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April 20, 2014, 07:29:16 AM
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I love this website.  Keep up the good work.  I think GPUs are going to be pushing currencies outside of scrypt now.  Your site is on top of that.  Good job.
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April 20, 2014, 08:25:22 AM
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The site looks great. I'll definitely be a frequent visitor.

A couple suggestions/comments:

--I have an R7 240. I don't know what the X11 hash rate is, nor do I necessarily care. I want to zero out that parameter as not to skew the results, but I am not allowed to. Instead, I enter in a 1. This workaround is fine for my purposes, but I feel there should be another way. Maybe you can put a checkbox next to each algorithm?


I thought about it lately and as of latest update (2 days ago), you can put 0 in every hash rate except scrypt. This is temporarily, I think checkbox will be added.

As for other comments I am with Thirty, it has to stay as it is.
Last thing about nfactor calculator - this is not on my dev road map now, but it doesnt mean that I wont ever do it.

I will be extremely busy this week, then after first week of may as well. Site will be updated and developed, dont worry.

@scottsecret Thank you Smiley
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April 20, 2014, 09:48:13 AM
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@Beave Just got it YGAU9ud4RWbm1C5DxVTMSFvh2zzgwh21LR

Tip on its way. Thanks again. 0b2c2f0029520b2fbf1893bf36f02b8b4cb8344646ecc7d5cd46ddbacd437fc4

As for other comments I am with Thirty, it has to stay as it is.
Last thing about nfactor calculator - this is not on my dev road map now, but it doesnt mean that I wont ever do it.

I'm confused... ThirtyBird didn't say anything opposing my other suggestions. What are you going to do on 24 May when UTC goes to NFactor 13? And 31 May when YACoin goes to NFactor 15? You may not want to clutter the site with a whole bunch of NFactor groupings, but perhaps you could have 3 or 4 with a dropdown menu for each with NFactor options? Just an idea--I'm sure there are better ones.

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April 20, 2014, 11:32:41 AM
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Maybe post buy books depth on your site Cheesy
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April 20, 2014, 08:47:00 PM
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@beave quote from thirty: " For what I do with the mining settings, the same settings can be used, but for profitability, they should be treated separately as there can be a difference in the hashrate."

I will add more nfactor inputs, not a problem. Thank you for the tip Smiley

@Pleasantel Added exchange volume reporting. Currently it shows value only for the highest RATE exchange. Thought about showing combined but I have mixed feelings about this.

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April 22, 2014, 06:22:04 AM
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Interesting tool, especially for newbie.
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April 22, 2014, 02:52:47 PM
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@beave quote from thirty: " For what I do with the mining settings, the same settings can be used, but for profitability, they should be treated separately as there can be a difference in the hashrate."

Ok... you would still want to specify the NFactor of the N-Scrypt coins just like you would for the chacha coins. I was just hoping it would be simplified by being the same for chacha and n-scrypt, but apparently, it is not so.

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April 22, 2014, 03:29:18 PM
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Added 24h revenue. Please note that list is now sorted by 24h profitability. This will reduce coin hopping on the list.

Still have in mind a form for user, to choose sorting on his own, stay tuned Smiley

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April 23, 2014, 12:59:37 PM
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Diamond DMD added. Groestl will be added before DMD switches to it.

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April 23, 2014, 01:41:40 PM
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Nice! Cheesy
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April 23, 2014, 02:51:50 PM
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Noblecoin NOBL added. Profitability going up and up! Wink

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April 23, 2014, 03:35:16 PM
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I like what you've done - it looks pretty accurate to me.  Sadly this means that people might figure out my mining secret and I'll make less  Tongue

If I may offer two suggestions:

1.) Scrypt-Jane.  No.  Scrypt-Chacha.  Yes.  Thanks.
2.) It appears the site uses cookies to remember what we've entered - fantastic.  Could you think of a way to integrate a "save settings as X" button?  I've got three different rigs composed to three different types of cards.  I would enter hashrates for one of these machines for each of the algorithms in a text box type "R7 240 Rig" and click "Save as" or something.  Then when I come back, I can switch the settings easily with a "Load settings from " dropdown box that has whatever I've saved.


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April 23, 2014, 03:47:41 PM
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I like what you've done - it looks pretty accurate to me.  Sadly this means that people might figure out my mining secret and I'll make less  Tongue

If I may offer two suggestions:

1.) Scrypt-Jane.  No.  Scrypt-Chacha.  Yes.  Thanks.
2.) It appears the site uses cookies to remember what we've entered - fantastic.  Could you think of a way to integrate a "save settings as X" button?  I've got three different rigs composed to three different types of cards.  I would enter hashrates for one of these machines for each of the algorithms in a text box type "R7 240 Rig" and click "Save as" or something.  Then when I come back, I can switch the settings easily with a "Load settings from " dropdown box that has whatever I've saved.



Accuracy is one of the most important things, thats good.

- I cant sleep cause of Jane vs Chacha... The only info I have found, states that Chacha is a part of Jane, not the other way around - hence why I left it as it is. Plus I really enjoy the Jane name Cheesy Feel free to give me any materials on it, I am pretty busy right know, but rest assured I am constantly thinking about it!

- I have a basic vision of how to implement that. Still would like to do ASIC section first.

EDIT: Oh and I have been asked to drop btc from gpu section and calculate profitability vs LTC. Think its a good idea, therefore I will pursue it. Revenues, volumes will stay in BTC.

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April 24, 2014, 10:59:27 AM
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Added sorting. You can choose from:

Difficulty, Market Cap, Exchange Volume, Revenue, Profit, Profitability 24h, Profitability 3 days, Profitability 7 days.

Default stays Profitability 24h. Choice will be remembered by cookies.

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April 24, 2014, 01:53:38 PM
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Added sorting. You can choose from:

Difficulty, Market Cap, Exchange Volume, Revenue, Profit, Profitability 24h, Profitability 3 days, Profitability 7 days.

Default stays Profitability 24h. Choice will be remembered by cookies.
I is there already a mobile version?
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April 24, 2014, 02:02:17 PM
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Added sorting. You can choose from:

Difficulty, Market Cap, Exchange Volume, Revenue, Profit, Profitability 24h, Profitability 3 days, Profitability 7 days.

Default stays Profitability 24h. Choice will be remembered by cookies.
I is there already a mobile version?

I dont have a separate view for mobile devices, if that is what you are asking.

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