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January 03, 2015, 06:45:41 PM
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Hi,

Thanks for a great service! I'm working on adding support for coin statistics from WhatToMine in Awesome Miner. There are some coins like MoonCoin where the exchange rate is based on Litecoin instead of Bitcoin. When looking at the API data, there is no way of telling that the current exchange rate is specified in relation to Litecoin.

Its done, you can find new variable 'exchange_rate_curr' that will list the base currency rate.
LTC is only used for Mooncoin [MOON], Fedoracoin [TIPS] and Kittehcoin [MEOW] (no longer listed as active)

I got some requests for coins that I will try to proccess tomorrow.
Many thanks! I just tried this and it works just great.

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January 26, 2015, 05:50:15 PM
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Nakamotodark is looking for pools. Could you help by listing it on your site?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=896354.0

Also was wondering why you haven't got CGB on there. It's been around since mid 2013 and has a solid reputation:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=245086.0
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January 26, 2015, 06:03:39 PM
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i have checked the website but not sure if they are correct, specially with coins that use difficulty retarget after every block
i use them for information about coin like hashrate,difficulty,volume etc
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January 28, 2015, 11:46:40 AM
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Nakamotodark is looking for pools. Could you help by listing it on your site?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=896354.0

Also was wondering why you haven't got CGB on there. It's been around since mid 2013 and has a solid reputation:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=245086.0

Will try to get listed NKM and CGB (prolly not listed cause of lack of explorer in the past when I was reviewing it)

i have checked the website but not sure if they are correct, specially with coins that use difficulty retarget after every block
i use them for information about coin like hashrate,difficulty,volume etc

Main list is sorted by profitability24 by default (uses an average difficulty over past 24h), revenue though is shown for current difficulty.
This may indeed be confusing, maybe better to switch both to `24` by default.

Edit: Added Nfactor 15 with UTC and removed NIST form. Added CGB.


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February 02, 2015, 04:13:51 PM
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Thanks for adding CGB to your site.
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February 09, 2015, 01:22:58 PM
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Absolutely, bar none, by far the best mining profitability website out there...!

A couple of comments:

1) I didn't know until just now (by accident) that when I click on the individual coins that I could do an analysis for ROI and such. Is it possible/practical to add an estimate for difficulty increases? I'm thinking specifically for bitcoin/litecoin as I imagine the difficulty adjustments of other coins make it impractical.

2) I don't believe the auto-populated 750ti numbers are accurate for NF15, NF16. I know they are just estimates. Is there a reasonable way to let people input their real-world results? I have R7 240 4GBs, and it would also be great to see that up there. That feature is quite amazing though. Thank you!

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February 09, 2015, 03:43:44 PM
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Absolutely, bar none, by far the best mining profitability website out there...!

A couple of comments:

1) I didn't know until just now (by accident) that when I click on the individual coins that I could do an analysis for ROI and such. Is it possible/practical to add an estimate for difficulty increases? I'm thinking specifically for bitcoin/litecoin as I imagine the difficulty adjustments of other coins make it impractical.

2) I don't believe the auto-populated 750ti numbers are accurate for NF15, NF16. I know they are just estimates. Is there a reasonable way to let people input their real-world results? I have R7 240 4GBs, and it would also be great to see that up there. That feature is quite amazing though. Thank you!


Thanks Beave Cheesy

1) It sounds reasonable to add a field like "monthly diff increase" in percents, so a user could customize it.
I am also thinking about somehow including users hashrate into diff estimate. This wont do anything for coins with huge nethash (at least for sane values),
but will matter if coin nethash equals to like 10 750tis. And such coins are listed right now unfortunately.

Not that coins with such low hashrate are much alive Tongue

2) I test the values myself, havent tweaked it much fro NF15, NF16... there is a possiblity you could get more, not less though and that was my main point.
On the main site I encourage users to input their own hashrates - this is the only way for the site to report as accurate results as possible.

As for the R7, its prolly used only for chachas cause of the funny amount of vram used Wink Think we can all assume those cards are for chachas only (maybe cpu coins too?)
Moreover I dont own R7 and would not be able to test the values myself.

I dont get the last question though "Is there a reasonable way to let people input their real-world results?".
You are able to input your hashrate at main and single coin sites as you see fit.

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February 11, 2015, 01:48:33 PM
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1) It sounds reasonable to add a field like "monthly diff increase" in percents, so a user could customize it.
I am also thinking about somehow including users hashrate into diff estimate. This wont do anything for coins with huge nethash (at least for sane values),
but will matter if coin nethash equals to like 10 750tis. And such coins are listed right now unfortunately.

Not that coins with such low hashrate are much alive Tongue

Wow, that is a good point. Yea, I think it is understandable to not take into account how one guys mining rig will completely throw off the numbers for some of the coins. ha

2) I test the values myself, havent tweaked it much fro NF15, NF16... there is a possiblity you could get more, not less though and that was my main point.
On the main site I encourage users to input their own hashrates - this is the only way for the site to report as accurate results as possible.

As for the R7, its prolly used only for chachas cause of the funny amount of vram used Wink Think we can all assume those cards are for chachas only (maybe cpu coins too?)
Moreover I dont own R7 and would not be able to test the values myself.

I dont get the last question though "Is there a reasonable way to let people input their real-world results?".
You are able to input your hashrate at main and single coin sites as you see fit.

Are you saying a 750ti gets 4.5 khash/s at NF15 at a minimum...?!? I understand it gets around 1 khash/s...

Yea, I am quite bias toward chacha. I mean, the way I see it, you have two fronts of technology (brute processing speed and memory requirements). I feel Bitcoin will always be the king of processing speed, but as newer CPUs and GPUs advance in the memory realm, chacha will rule that space Smiley Everything else is just 'in-between'.

I was wondering if I could input my R7 240 4GB values, and let others see those results without them having to buy one and test it out for themselves. I'm trying to imagine how that would be possible and all inclusive through your site. Of course, who is to say those numbers would be accurate anyway.

It is best for one to input their own tested hashrates. Like I said, no other site comes close to whattomine.com in calculating actual profitability, and I thank you for that!

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February 11, 2015, 05:26:02 PM
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Are you saying a 750ti gets 4.5 khash/s at NF15 at a minimum...?!? I understand it gets around 1 khash/s...

I was feeling that is your problem, in the past someone reported this as well.

By pressing `280x` or `750ti` you are not inputting values for that card. You are telling WTM "Hey here is my scrypt hashrate for those cards, please adapt it to other algos".
And it really is the best solution. If you would like to see values for one of those cards (keep in mind that those values are guaranteed with stock cards, no oc),
please input 730kh and press 280x or 265kh and press 750ti. For power usage I would do 280W and 75W respectively. (again stock, not underclocked/undervoltaged)

If you hover your mouse over those buttons, there is a tip about it too... Guess noone looked for that Wink

I was wondering if I could input my R7 240 4GB values, and let others see those results without them having to buy one and test it out for themselves. I'm trying to imagine how that would be possible and all inclusive through your site. Of course, who is to say those numbers would be accurate anyway.

You can share your results with others by simple url paste.
You have to hit calculate though for the url to fill (going back to main site / clicking on GPU section will take the values from cookies and not fill the url)

PS
Regarding adapt values... I dont think theres been much change for 280x lately, but I may update some algos for 750ti, as I have seen some new miner builds with increased performance.

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February 11, 2015, 05:51:57 PM
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CGB just rebranded to CBX. You can grab the new logo here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=951753.0
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February 11, 2015, 06:26:54 PM
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CGB just rebranded to CBX. You can grab the new logo here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=951753.0

Updated, thanks for the info! I think the logo stays the same though Wink

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February 11, 2015, 10:52:32 PM
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I was feeling that is your problem, in the past someone reported this as well.

By pressing `280x` or `750ti` you are not inputting values for that card. You are telling WTM "Hey here is my scrypt hashrate for those cards, please adapt it to other algos".
And it really is the best solution. If you would like to see values for one of those cards (keep in mind that those values are guaranteed with stock cards, no oc),
please input 730kh and press 280x or 265kh and press 750ti. For power usage I would do 280W and 75W respectively. (again stock, not underclocked/undervoltaged)

If you hover your mouse over those buttons, there is a tip about it too... Guess noone looked for that Wink

You can share your results with others by simple url paste.
You have to hit calculate though for the url to fill (going back to main site / clicking on GPU section will take the values from cookies and not fill the url)

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Regarding adapt values... I dont think theres been much change for 280x lately, but I may update some algos for 750ti, as I have seen some new miner builds with increased performance.

Thanks, fredeq. The 750ti numbers make a lot more sense now ;P

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February 22, 2015, 04:16:06 PM
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An interesting feature that may not be obvious to everyone, is that you can customize API JSON output.

Simply take your WTM url from browser and append .json before the params.
Here is the curl example with default values used:
Code:
curl "http://www.whattomine.com/coins.json?utf8=%E2%9C%93&scryptf=true&factor%5Bscrypt_hash_rate%5D=1000.0&factor%5Bscrypt_power%5D=380.0&scrypt_nf=true&factor%5Bscrypt_n_hr%5D=450.0&factor%5Bscrypt_n_p%5D=330.6&cha15f=true&factor%5Bcha15_hr%5D=3.0&factor%5Bcha15_p%5D=228.0&cha16f=true&factor%5Bcha16_hr%5D=400.0&factor%5Bcha16_p%5D=228.0&x11f=true&factor%5Bx11_hr%5D=5600.0&factor%5Bx11_p%5D=266.0&x13f=true&factor%5Bx13_hr%5D=4000.0&factor%5Bx13_p%5D=266.0&cn=true&factor%5Bcn_hr%5D=640.0&factor%5Bcn_p%5D=304.0&ns=true&factor%5Bns_hr%5D=410.0&factor%5Bns_p%5D=228.0&adapt=true&factor%5Bcost%5D=0.2&commit=Calculate&sort=&volume=&revenue=&keccakf=true&factor%5Bkeccak_hr%5D=480.0&factor%5Bkeccak_p%5D=304.0&grof=true&factor%5Bgro_hr%5D=15.0&factor%5Bgro_p%5D=228.0&n5=true&factor%5Bn5_hr%5D=16.0&factor%5Bn5_p%5D=228.0&lre=true&factor%5Blre_hr%5D=1150.0&factor%5Blre_p%5D=228.0"

Notice that you can switch algos on/off and customize filters like sort, volume and revenue, same as through browser.
I recommend using all of the params, dont delete algo values, simply change true to false.

Small notification. Myr-groestl that is used only for Myriad / Digibyte has its multiplier hardcoded for 280x (1,9 x groestl_hr). Remember that when checking nvidia profitability!
I may change that in the future, either by adding this to main field, or by allowing param input of those values.

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March 07, 2015, 03:00:12 PM
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WTM will now take into account difficulty increase, caused by your added hash rate, when calculating revenues.

This should produce more accurate results, especially for the coins with low network hash rate.

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March 20, 2015, 08:24:06 AM
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Bitcoin Scammers Run Off With $12 Million: “Going to The Caribbean… Hope You Guys Understand”

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Aren't people tired of being ripped off yet?

Isn't it time to get serious and seriously start backing coins that are transparent?

We really need to make our voices heard.
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March 20, 2015, 08:44:32 AM
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Sad indeed, but wasnt that used for illegal drug market? Thats kind of risky to begin with Tongue

I feel you though, often before adding a coin that feels 'shady' I keep second guessing myself.

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Added WhirlpoolX algo with Vanillacoin to the main fields.

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March 20, 2015, 11:40:49 PM
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Sad indeed, but wasnt that used for illegal drug market? Thats kind of risky to begin with Tongue

I feel you though, often before adding a coin that feels 'shady' I keep second guessing myself.

Just another heist in what is becoming a very long list very fast . . . and that's because everyone refuses to even recognize the issue for fear of losing their "anonymity" (which is really only an illusion to begin with . . . most likely perpetuated by those who continue to rob the sheeple blind).

I wasn't affected. I'm not that stupid.

I am interested in taking crypto legit though, and that is what motivated my post.

Great to see you still plugging away. Whenever I want reliable mining stats, or someone asks, Whattomine is the answer.

Take care, and best regards.


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March 21, 2015, 09:44:51 PM
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Thanks, keep it cool man Wink

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April 03, 2015, 06:24:26 AM
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I have lately updated Dash(Darkcoin) block reward calculation.
Now properly returns miners part of the block.

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