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December 30, 2017, 11:32:12 AM
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We submitted our coin to be added in whattomine.com more than two months ago but nothing yet... can you please let us know what's wrong? do you need more info?

Would be easier if you reminded me which one you requested ;P

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I have some reservations about this coin. Honestly the whole rebrand / swap looks like a moneygrab.

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We could think about showing 3 and 7day changes, but placing it would be tricky.
Will talk this over during next UI update

There are a lot of information from trusted sources (e.g. forbes.com) about ArabianChain and so many proof of work (e.g. Arabianchain Studio, Palmex, confirmed participation as speaker at blockchain events in the region, ...) - what else do You like as confirmation that the team behind DBIX is more real than half of the coins on WhatToMine? Wink
there is e.g. "SOIL" coin still listed where the dev team is gone since ~ 1 year already....
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January 02, 2018, 08:52:42 PM
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charts for difficulty please!!!
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January 02, 2018, 10:25:38 PM
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charts for difficulty please!!!

I'm not sure it's necessary.

But if you really want graphics of the variation of difficulty, you can look at the coin stats of coinwarz.com. on the other hand, they make them pay the requests ...

WTM is free and must remain light, otherwise it will become unusable

In conclusion I do not think it will happen, but I am not fredeq or even less the team WTM. It's up to them to tell you if I'm wrong.

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January 02, 2018, 10:48:08 PM
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Charts might happen, but they are considered low-priority for now.

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January 03, 2018, 12:25:23 PM
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Thank you
I will wait and hope
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January 03, 2018, 09:06:23 PM
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I think Gobyte Nescrypt Coin could be added to the list in WTM.

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/gobyte/

https://gobyte.network/#!

ANd i see you are in their listing objectives :

Whattomine : PLANNED

Is it for soon ?

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January 03, 2018, 09:22:54 PM
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I think Gobyte Nescrypt Coin could be added to the list in WTM.

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/gobyte/

https://gobyte.network/#!

ANd i see you are in their listing objectives :

Whattomine : PLANNED

Is it for soon ?

Its already there as a single calc.
https://whattomine.com/coins/225-gbx-neoscrypt
Currently testing 24h returns.

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January 03, 2018, 10:38:36 PM
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I think Gobyte Nescrypt Coin could be added to the list in WTM.

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/gobyte/

https://gobyte.network/#!

ANd i see you are in their listing objectives :

Whattomine : PLANNED

Is it for soon ?

Its already there as a single calc.
https://whattomine.com/coins/225-gbx-neoscrypt
Currently testing 24h returns.

Ah, very good. Sorry for not having been checked before.
I'm sick, I got a flu ...  it starts badly for me in Health for year 2018 ! Undecided Cry
my brain does not work so well.

Sorry

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January 04, 2018, 07:50:05 AM
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Ah, very good. Sorry for not having been checked before.
I'm sick, I got a flu ...  it starts badly for me in Health for year 2018 ! Undecided Cry
my brain does not work so well.

Sorry

No worries, get well soon  Wink

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January 04, 2018, 12:28:08 PM
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Hello,

I have made a website, where you can compare profitability of various altcoins.
Coins with only LTC market are also included(more to come), they are marked with "(L)" by an exchange name.

Here is the link: https://www.whattomine.com/
For SHA256&Scrypt only: https://www.whattomine.com/asic
If you are in need of basic json response, try this: https://www.whattomine.com/coins.json | https://www.whattomine.com/asic.json


Hi,

I was wondering if it was possible to exploit the API (via JSON) to extract the desired values according to our config ?
I have GTX 660 & 960 and each time I must inform the Hash and SOL of my CG, which is long.
No way to automate via a script?

Thanks.

PS : Ethash is in SOL/s, not in H/s.. ??!

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January 04, 2018, 02:46:52 PM
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Hello, I've created a dark theme for WhatToMine. If you are using Stylish (or Stylus) addon for your browser and you like dark themes you should like it.
Or @fredeq - if you could, please implement a "night mode" to WhatToMine Smiley
I published it on userstyles: https://userstyles.org/styles/153712/dark-whattomine

I've also created few more dark styles for us, miners. Feel free to share your opinions.
- Suprnova: https://userstyles.org/styles/144126/darknova-dark-theme-for-suprnova-cc
- Mining Pool Hub: https://userstyles.org/styles/152737/dark-mining-pool-hub
- Multiple other pools: https://userstyles.org/styles/153286/multidark-pools-yiimp-altminer-zpool-and-more

Preview:
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January 05, 2018, 07:37:34 PM
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I feel like I'm probably missing something basic but I'd love to understand what it is anyways.

The block reward for Ethereum is 2.91 in WTM. The commonly accepted value is 3, but I can see where 2.91 is from because there's a chance to mine the uncle and get the lowered reward. However, those two things combined undervalues the block reward, no? By all accounts, the inclusion of uncle rewards should NOT be considered a penalty - and the reason this isn't properly accounted for is because the block time with or without uncles is the same. What 2.91 really is is 'what is the average reward given that you mine a block or uncle?'. But that figure can't be simply multiplied into the block time.

Working at it from another way, BitInfoCharts - https://bitinfocharts.com/ethereum/ - has a breakdown of the block reward and the rewards over a 24h period. I can't say for sure that these are accurate, but there's a discrepancy of ~7k ETH between 2.91 or 3 * 86400 / block time (16-17k) and the 24h reward listed (23.5k at time of writing). 2400 of that is from fees (which are proving to be not insignificant), but then another 5k are from uncles. Because of this, the average block reward is in excess of 4. It makes sense to use this number (or the 24hr reward number), because we're looking to figure how much a certain hashrate is entitled to of all the eth rewarded given the network hashrate in a continuous function.

What am I missing?
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January 05, 2018, 07:38:53 PM
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Hi,

I was wondering if it was possible to exploit the API (via JSON) to extract the desired values according to our config ?
I have GTX 660 & 960 and each time I must inform the Hash and SOL of my CG, which is long.
No way to automate via a script?

Thanks.

PS : Ethash is in SOL/s, not in H/s.. ??!

You should always provide full params for json calls, thats expected. Not sure what exactly are you doing that something is "long"

If anything Equihash might be in sol/s which are just hash/s, same thing.
No idea who came up with the new unit to confuse everyone.

@Atexor
Nice work, will think about something like that Smiley

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January 05, 2018, 07:44:40 PM
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I feel like I'm probably missing something basic but I'd love to understand what it is anyways.

The block reward for Ethereum is 2.91 in WTM. The commonly accepted value is 3, but I can see where 2.91 is from because there's a chance to mine the uncle and get the lowered reward. However, those two things combined undervalues the block reward, no? By all accounts, the inclusion of uncle rewards should NOT be considered a penalty - and the reason this isn't properly accounted for is because the block time with or without uncles is the same. What 2.91 really is is 'what is the average reward given that you mine a block or uncle?'. But that figure can't be simply multiplied into the block time.

Working at it from another way, BitInfoCharts - https://bitinfocharts.com/ethereum/ - has a breakdown of the block reward and the rewards over a 24h period. I can't say for sure that these are accurate, but there's a discrepancy of ~7k ETH between 2.91 or 3 * 86400 / block time (16-17k) and the 24h reward listed (23.5k at time of writing). 2400 of that is from fees (which are proving to be not insignificant), but then another 5k are from uncles. Because of this, the average block reward is in excess of 4. It makes sense to use this number (or the 24hr reward number), because we're looking to figure how much a certain hashrate is entitled to of all the eth rewarded given the network hashrate in a continuous function.

What am I missing?

Uncles that are included by real blocks are not having a block_number of their own.
You can confirm this by comparing `2.91 or 3 * 86400 / block time (16-17k)` with first value of 24h rewards `16,017+2521+198.09+4757`

Nice puzzle though Wink

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January 05, 2018, 07:55:09 PM
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Uncles that are included by real blocks are not having a block_number of their own.
You can confirm this by comparing `2.91 or 3 * 86400 / block time (16-17k)` with first value of 24h rewards `16,017+2521+198.09+4757`

Nice puzzle though Wink
Yes, that's what I mean though - the uncles don't have a block number of their own, but they give a reward. So the block time stays the same (no matter if every block has 2 uncles or every block has 0 uncles), but the total reward over the entire network is much different.

So think about the 24h rewards - 23493. 16017 of that is accounted for by the calculator. 2521 is ignored for now because fees can fluctuate. The calculator doesn't account for the other 4955?
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January 05, 2018, 09:59:29 PM
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So think about the 24h rewards - 23493. 16017 of that is accounted for by the calculator. 2521 is ignored for now because fees can fluctuate. The calculator doesn't account for the other 4955?

Everything is accounted for cause calculation is not based on block_time, only on difficulty.

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January 07, 2018, 12:18:48 AM
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 Dear fredeq,

 Congratulations on your nice effort!

Please consider my improvement proposals:
1) Include some other MAJOR hashing pools except NiceHash (e.g. mining hub pool, zpool, dutch mining, ...)
2) Option to return values in other major currency (e.g. EURO)

Apologies if the above have been addressed but I could not find a way to check so many pages back)


Thank you for your time,
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January 07, 2018, 07:17:26 PM
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Dear fredeq,

 Congratulations on your nice effort!

Please consider my improvement proposals:
1) Include some other MAJOR hashing pools except NiceHash (e.g. mining hub pool, zpool, dutch mining, ...)
2) Option to return values in other major currency (e.g. EURO)

Apologies if the above have been addressed but I could not find a way to check so many pages back)


Thank you for your time,
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Theo


1. I believe there is no API for other multipools.
2. Received this request a couple of times already, but dont consider it high priority for now.

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January 08, 2018, 08:32:37 AM
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Greetings Fredeq,

I was using the main page on the site that shows profitability for coins based on selected cards/hashrates.  However, I noticed recently that a few popular algorithms are not available on the main page  (XVG Verge - X17, for one), but they could be found on the coins page individually.  This got me digging around for API information so I could include these other algorithms in my search.  It looks like I could use the Calculators.json, and then look up coin stats individually by id number. 

Issue 1.  I'm waiting 2 seconds between requests, so that should be 30 rpm.  Still getting banned. 

Issue 2.  Am I even allowed to do this?  I read in your policy terms:
"The visitors are forbidden to use the WhatToMine APIs for any application that replicates or attempts to replace the essential user experience of whattomine.com. Abuse of the API service may result in a ban from the whole website."  What would the API be used for if not to make similar functionality?  I know people are using these in multi algo mining bots.  Can you outline what acceptable uses are?

I realize you make money through ads, and need people to visit the site in order to make it profitable for you.  I wouldn't be doing any of this if all the algorithms were supported on the main page.  I don't mind limiting my query to only algorithms not already present on the main page.  I just can't spend the time going through every coin manually that's not present there.

Thanks.

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January 09, 2018, 10:08:23 AM
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Greetings Fredeq,

I was using the main page on the site that shows profitability for coins based on selected cards/hashrates.  However, I noticed recently that a few popular algorithms are not available on the main page  (XVG Verge - X17, for one), but they could be found on the coins page individually.  This got me digging around for API information so I could include these other algorithms in my search.  It looks like I could use the Calculators.json, and then look up coin stats individually by id number. 

Issue 1.  I'm waiting 2 seconds between requests, so that should be 30 rpm.  Still getting banned. 

Issue 2.  Am I even allowed to do this?  I read in your policy terms:
"The visitors are forbidden to use the WhatToMine APIs for any application that replicates or attempts to replace the essential user experience of whattomine.com. Abuse of the API service may result in a ban from the whole website."  What would the API be used for if not to make similar functionality?  I know people are using these in multi algo mining bots.  Can you outline what acceptable uses are?

I realize you make money through ads, and need people to visit the site in order to make it profitable for you.  I wouldn't be doing any of this if all the algorithms were supported on the main page.  I don't mind limiting my query to only algorithms not already present on the main page.  I just can't spend the time going through every coin manually that's not present there.

Thanks.



1. There must be a glitch in your code somewhere making multiple requests faster.

2. You are allowed to use the json for scripts and bots, but not to replicate the website.
You can just call calculators.json like once a day to check for new coins. Then call directly the coins that are not listed on the main list.
Thats perfectly sound and you can read each coin stat every 3 minutes, no need to do it more frequently.

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