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May 23, 2014, 10:04:41 AM
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Let us write an anonymous function to the coin, because this is all the rage right now.

Another stupid idea.
Quick pow then pos was all the hype , look at all the clones that can't make it to 2 satoshi.
Doge exploded  , take a look at their copy cats.

And just because darkcoin is going up in price you think the coin needs to change entirely just to ride the hype wave?

 

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I apologise in advance for this rant. It's pretty long and in some areas may be repetitive but it's how I'm feeling right now after weeks of working with some great people.

I think it's really funny how people are seeing something that is and always has been proposed as a long term solution for our current monetary system, is being pronounced a failure at just one month old by certain people.

"Investors dare I say Speculators" who have gotten into this for the "Short term / greed" and have not or will not contribute to the invigoration or growth of their "investment / speculation" because you think it's you're god given right to expect everyone but yourselves to drive value, should stop wingeing at Volunteers who believe in this. This is meant to be crypto currency not crypto stock.

Yes it is speculative, as was BitCoin but good things take time to mature and build communities and support before real value is realised.

I have spent today with a good friend of mine who owns a BTC merchant site of over 9000 merchants that he services and he told me about the 10,000 Bitcoin (~ US$25 at the time) pizzas (2 of) that were ordered and bought on 22nd May 2010 by Laszlo Hanyecz. The first recorded purchase of anything with CryptoCurrency. http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-pizza-day-celebrating-pizza-bought-10000-btc/

Do you think that those guy's were crying failure just 1 month into launch?? Like hell, they were pushing to create a market for customers to use this "virtual stuff" to buy "real things".

My friend and I spoke of the fact that these original merchants who took the risk of being paid in Bitcoin were and are pioneers, whom given the chance, would eagerly take on another "virtual coin" for over the counter purchases if they knew it was faster than BTC and had solid growth potential such as WC has. That is what has made the merchants rich already with BTC and they are hungry for more.

This is the second conversation that I've had with rich BTC pioneers this week. They have agreed that there is massive potential for this to succeed and are wishing to talk more about the possibilities.

All of this is possible but it won't happen overnight and initial speculators that are unhappy with "losing" money over the space of a month and who are happy to dump and run, then all power to you. I'll happily take your WC.

As I see it, it's potential energy in WC is growing and growing. The spring constant of this coin is growing and growing as the strength of the community is prevailing and increasing.

I would agree with you that you may pronounce that a coin is dead if after a month we had around 30 pages of posts, the developer of the coin had skipped town and nothing else, the contrary is the case.

WC is now backed by true professionals from the fields of software development / marketing / technical support / design / foundation management team of volunteers (investors, miners, exchanges and bag-holders alike). These people give up their spare time and in some cases their working time too. The wallet has been fixed, the coin is doing what it was supposed to be doing in the beginning and there is continuing active development from many directions. Others have put money into hiring other professionals to help with their own money to grow the future of this Crypto Currency WhiteCoin.

In WC, there is constant support in the way of creative, technical and marketing input. There is constructive planning and everything else that determines long term success and strength of a product, that is going into making the future of this Crypto Currency and that's what ultimately, will allow this Block Chain Tree to bare fruit and give massive returns to those who have patience and foresight to stay in and support in whatever constructive way that they can.

Ultimately it is the individuals choice as to whether they hold or cut their losses and run. But it is those who have the vision and courage to look forward to the future and work towards the ultimate goal of general acceptance of WC and other worthy Crypto Currencies in the future as a viable option to FIAT currencies, are the ones who are ultimately going to reap the rewards.

Go and talk to Laszlo Hanyecz today and ask him if it was worth buying those pizzas. I dare say that he will tell you it was the best decision he ever made at the time, even though he must be kicking himself today. He thought that BTC was worthless and Dumped $5,270,000 worth on 2 pizzas??? Crazy but cool. But then again, he was in it because he "Believed in BTC as a currency" and that's cool.

If you're going to treat Crypto as whole as a get rich quick scheme, then expect to get burnt along the way by charlatans and con artists. If this pains you, then find a new alternative. Try this with real stocks or FIAT currencies and I can tell you from experience that you will get burnt way more if you're trying to get rich quick, but if you're in it for the reasons that transcend your hunger for that quick buck and you're into building a community, that will ultimately build your future wealth when the rest of the world says hey, what are we missing out on. Then stay and help us build it.

Pull you head out of your asses and either support the Crypto Community as a whole, or dump and run. But stop FUDDING this or any other Crypto community, as you have gotten old a very long time ago.

Just a disclaimer. I'm a holder, miner, investor, developer and supporter of WC and a number of other Crypto Currencies and I see that the future is bright for all that believe in it. Communities build strength, Strength build prosperity.

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May 23, 2014, 10:11:06 AM
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http://turbobit.net/jycepvoqwhrs.html

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May 23, 2014, 10:29:07 AM
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alcamie, TL & full of useless old news. The 10k pizza stuff was old news a year ago fella.
My objection is to being left feeling like I have been led along like the investors of Panda with the coin being drained until it is worth nothing. I am not stupid enough to put enough in to make a difference to my financial situation should it go to 0 satoshi, my motivation is not financial but the feeling of being taken for a mug.

To suggest I am "fudding" just goes to show the tactics you happily take against long term investors of the coin. "Dump and run" ... you would like that I suppose as it allows a few satoshi more to be wrung from the few still standing investors.

I see nothing but procrastination and constant begging for more coins on this thread. "Donate here", "vote here"-(with coins) etc it seems to be endless fleecing.

Facebook, twitter, social media whatevers, IRC, no thanks. Please keep folk updated here instead of running all over the net to piece the odd scrap of information that may have been posted ... somewhere.   "oh it was on IRC"  well most of use were not!

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May 23, 2014, 10:38:20 AM
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http://turbobit.net/jycepvoqwhrs.html

All money will go to PR Whitecoin and promote his ideas further and more deeply

WTF is this??

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May 23, 2014, 10:41:19 AM
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Guys, you can put your sticks and stones down now, we are in a new age. There are better coins. Xlb netted me all my WC losses just today. Why live through these weeks of pain?
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May 23, 2014, 10:41:41 AM
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alcamie, TL & full of useless old news. The 10k pizza stuff was old news a year ago fella.
My objection is to being left feeling like I have been led along like the investors of Panda with the coin being drained until it is worth nothing. I am not stupid enough to put enough in to make a difference to my financial situation should it go to 0 satoshi, my motivation is not financial but the feeling of being taken for a mug.

To suggest I am "fudding" just goes to show the tactics you happily take against long term investors of the coin. "Dump and run" ... you would like that I suppose as it allows a few satoshi more to be wrung from the few still standing investors.

I see nothing but procrastination and constant begging for more coins on this thread. "Donate here", "vote here"-(with coins) etc it seems to be endless fleecing.

Facebook, twitter, social media whatevers, IRC, no thanks. Please keep folk updated here instead of running all over the net to piece the odd scrap of information that may have been posted ... somewhere.   "oh it was on IRC"  well most of use were not!


With all due respect, the IRC is our biggest and most active community. This is where our volunteers work from, and it's therefore where the most updated news is posted. The IRC is public and very easy to access. We also post daily updates here and elsewhere on the net as to our progress. I think you might be being a little unrealistic.

We're also trying to operate a coin with no premine and no funding, which requires both volunteers and fundraising. If you're feeling fleeced, I'm betting its because you're hesitant to actually join us where the core community hangs out. There is just too much signal to noise ratio on BCT for it to be a productive work organization launchpad.

Best regards,

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May 23, 2014, 10:46:42 AM
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http://turbobit.net/jycepvoqwhrs.html

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WTF is this??

This is an additional way of donations for the benefit Whitecoin
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May 23, 2014, 10:46:57 AM
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I am not stupid enough to put enough in to make a difference to my financial situation should it go to 0 satoshi, my motivation is not financial but the feeling of being taken for a mug.

I see nothing but procrastination and constant begging for more coins on this thread. "Donate here", "vote here"-(with coins) etc it seems to be endless fleecing.

Facebook, twitter, social media whatevers, IRC, no thanks. Please keep folk updated here instead of running all over the net to piece the odd scrap of information that may have been posted ... somewhere.   "oh it was on IRC"  well most of use were not!


Read up a bit and you will see that this point of better communications here is already recognized and being addressed, its also outlined http://whitecoin.info/news/whitecoin-master-todo-list-051514/ #1 Logistics - Account and & Outlet Management #1 = Bitcointalk

WC is used as part of the voting mechanism where 1 WC equals 1 vote = transparency, public ledger.
Are we volunteers perfect = Nope
Donations will be used to better WC, developments etc.
Are we getting better at communicating = Yes

Why?

Because we were not a team when the coin launched, we are new and have come together for the betterment of WC and thus to pull together a community takes time and organization.  If you think back only a few short weeks ago all the while going through the many crisis's, there has always been a way to reach a volunteer through many means.  

I appreciate you stressing the importance of communication here in this forum, something you can see is happening in addition to the main ANN being updated daily (now that the new team has control over it).

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May 23, 2014, 10:48:23 AM
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alcamie, TL & full of useless old news. The 10k pizza stuff was old news a year ago fella.
My objection is to being left feeling like I have been led along like the investors of Panda with the coin being drained until it is worth nothing. I am not stupid enough to put enough in to make a difference to my financial situation should it go to 0 satoshi, my motivation is not financial but the feeling of being taken for a mug.

To suggest I am "fudding" just goes to show the tactics you happily take against long term investors of the coin. "Dump and run" ... you would like that I suppose as it allows a few satoshi more to be wrung from the few still standing investors.

I see nothing but procrastination and constant begging for more coins on this thread. "Donate here", "vote here"-(with coins) etc it seems to be endless fleecing.

Facebook, twitter, social media whatevers, IRC, no thanks. Please keep folk updated here instead of running all over the net to piece the odd scrap of information that may have been posted ... somewhere.   "oh it was on IRC"  well most of use were not!


With all due respect, the IRC is our biggest and most active community. This is where our volunteers work from, and it's therefore where the most updated news is posted. The IRC is public and very easy to access. We also post daily updates here and elsewhere on the net as to our progress. I think you might be being a little unrealistic.

We're also trying to operate a coin with no premine and no funding, which requires both volunteers and fundraising. If you're feeling fleeced, I'm betting its because you're hesitant to actually join us where the core community hangs out. There is just too much signal to noise ratio on BCT for it to be a productive work organization launchpad.

Best regards,

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Yes i don't think there is any attempt at fleecing at all, the devs have worked very hard for very little. I can only hope they have loaded up on WC at these low prices so their work can eventually pay off.

However it is nice to have a good amount of discussion on here. Active threads attract more users and adopters.

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May 23, 2014, 10:58:19 AM
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http://turbobit.net/jycepvoqwhrs.html

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May 23, 2014, 11:01:36 AM
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alcamie, TL & full of useless old news. The 10k pizza stuff was old news a year ago fella.
My objection is to being left feeling like I have been led along like the investors of Panda with the coin being drained until it is worth nothing. I am not stupid enough to put enough in to make a difference to my financial situation should it go to 0 satoshi, my motivation is not financial but the feeling of being taken for a mug.

To suggest I am "fudding" just goes to show the tactics you happily take against long term investors of the coin. "Dump and run" ... you would like that I suppose as it allows a few satoshi more to be wrung from the few still standing investors.

I see nothing but procrastination and constant begging for more coins on this thread. "Donate here", "vote here"-(with coins) etc it seems to be endless fleecing.

Facebook, twitter, social media whatevers, IRC, no thanks. Please keep folk updated here instead of running all over the net to piece the odd scrap of information that may have been posted ... somewhere.   "oh it was on IRC"  well most of use were not!


Iffy.

I notice that on all of your posts both on WC and the VC forum are specifically you pointing out what you see as "problems", but I don't see you offering any of what you might see as "solutions".

We are not STAFF and we have NOT been paid for work done from any pot that I know of.

I have been donated a total of 5000 WC worth a grand total of $4.28 from a kind individual, so if you think that you are being misled, ill informed and ripped off by people like myself, for the price of a cup of coffee, for the days and weeks of work that we are all putting in  to make "Your Coin" stronger in the long term, then I really feel that you can take your criticism and $214 worth of WC elsewhere.

Or if you feel strongly enough to "waste your the time" giving "worthless negative criticism" to people for working for what they believe in, maybe you could rethink that and give your time to that same group with constructive worthwhile suggestions and support them to try to turn your $214 into something that you might be happy with.


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May 23, 2014, 11:09:04 AM
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I am not hesitant in joining you. I would not join you regardless due to what I see as a lack of professionalism. To leave investors floating, feeling they are being taken for a ride is ridiculous. To then ask them to pay for being made to feel that way adds insult.

"trying to operate a coin with no premine and no funding" - You would have found it easier to find funding with a better multi pool. Maybe DRK on your X11 "multipool" would be good instead of simply having a munitipool.  Have you seen the buy orders for Muniti ... WTF. I earn ~1/3 on your X11 pool compared to what I should earn with my electricity.

I am not asking the thread here to be a "work organization launchpad", just that it is updated regularly with REAL features and stuff folk will want to hear ... Not just "give us more coins, it's for the foundation, we are going full steam now .. wow aren't we great".

As stated previously, why would it be expected for anyone to be visiting numerous websites and places of media outlet for a snippet of information that may or may not actually be posted. I come here for information as I have a busy life. I, (I imagine others also) do not need to be searching everywhere for info that may or may not even exist.

Update this thread with more than just begging letters and make your investors feel a part of the "community" you shout so highly of.



alcamie, TL & full of useless old news. The 10k pizza stuff was old news a year ago fella.
My objection is to being left feeling like I have been led along like the investors of Panda with the coin being drained until it is worth nothing. I am not stupid enough to put enough in to make a difference to my financial situation should it go to 0 satoshi, my motivation is not financial but the feeling of being taken for a mug.

To suggest I am "fudding" just goes to show the tactics you happily take against long term investors of the coin. "Dump and run" ... you would like that I suppose as it allows a few satoshi more to be wrung from the few still standing investors.

I see nothing but procrastination and constant begging for more coins on this thread. "Donate here", "vote here"-(with coins) etc it seems to be endless fleecing.

Facebook, twitter, social media whatevers, IRC, no thanks. Please keep folk updated here instead of running all over the net to piece the odd scrap of information that may have been posted ... somewhere.   "oh it was on IRC"  well most of use were not!


Iffy.

I notice that on all of your posts both on WC and the VC forum are specifically you pointing out what you see as "problems", but I don't see you offering any of what you might see as "solutions".

We are not STAFF and we have NOT been paid for work done from any pot that I know of.

I have been donated a total of 5000 WC worth a grand total of $4.28 from a kind individual, so if you think that you are being misled, ill informed and ripped off by people like myself, for the price of a cup of coffee, for the days and weeks of work that we are all putting in  to make "Your Coin" stronger in the long term, then I really feel that you can take your criticism and $214 worth of WC elsewhere.

Or if you feel strongly enough to "waste your the time" giving "worthless negative criticism" to people for working for what they believe in, maybe you could rethink that and give your time to that same group with constructive worthwhile suggestions and support them to try to turn your $214 into something that you might be happy with.




So you did not see I offered 0.66% of the entire coin cap towards a bounty fund to help improve VC?  If I thought you were capable I would have already donated.

EDIT: Oh and you may wish to read above your quoted post too, I suggest a little there to improve investor confidence. Although I do not feel you may listen anyway.

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alcamie, TL & full of useless old news. The 10k pizza stuff was old news a year ago fella.
My objection is to being left feeling like I have been led along like the investors of Panda with the coin being drained until it is worth nothing. I am not stupid enough to put enough in to make a difference to my financial situation should it go to 0 satoshi, my motivation is not financial but the feeling of being taken for a mug.

To suggest I am "fudding" just goes to show the tactics you happily take against long term investors of the coin. "Dump and run" ... you would like that I suppose as it allows a few satoshi more to be wrung from the few still standing investors.

I see nothing but procrastination and constant begging for more coins on this thread. "Donate here", "vote here"-(with coins) etc it seems to be endless fleecing.

Facebook, twitter, social media whatevers, IRC, no thanks. Please keep folk updated here instead of running all over the net to piece the odd scrap of information that may have been posted ... somewhere.   "oh it was on IRC"  well most of use were not!


With all due respect, the IRC is our biggest and most active community. This is where our volunteers work from, and it's therefore where the most updated news is posted. The IRC is public and very easy to access. We also post daily updates here and elsewhere on the net as to our progress. I think you might be being a little unrealistic.

We're also trying to operate a coin with no premine and no funding, which requires both volunteers and fundraising. If you're feeling fleeced, I'm betting its because you're hesitant to actually join us where the core community hangs out. There is just too much signal to noise ratio on BCT for it to be a productive work organization launchpad.

Best regards,

Chris



Yes i don't think there is any attempt at fleecing at all, the devs have worked very hard for very little. I can only hope they have loaded up on WC at these low prices so their work can eventually pay off.

However it is nice to have a good amount of discussion on here. Active threads attract more users and adopters.

That's a great point and thanks very much. I'll make a concerted effort to move from just "posting updates" to actually having fluid conversation on here. Just as a heads up tho, I'm unfortunately heading out of town for a family thing today and tomorrow, so won't be online as much for the next 24 hours.

Thanks again for your comments and support!

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alcamie, TL & full of useless old news. The 10k pizza stuff was old news a year ago fella.
My objection is to being left feeling like I have been led along like the investors of Panda with the coin being drained until it is worth nothing. I am not stupid enough to put enough in to make a difference to my financial situation should it go to 0 satoshi, my motivation is not financial but the feeling of being taken for a mug.

To suggest I am "fudding" just goes to show the tactics you happily take against long term investors of the coin. "Dump and run" ... you would like that I suppose as it allows a few satoshi more to be wrung from the few still standing investors.

I see nothing but procrastination and constant begging for more coins on this thread. "Donate here", "vote here"-(with coins) etc it seems to be endless fleecing.

Facebook, twitter, social media whatevers, IRC, no thanks. Please keep folk updated here instead of running all over the net to piece the odd scrap of information that may have been posted ... somewhere.   "oh it was on IRC"  well most of use were not!


With all due respect, the IRC is our biggest and most active community. This is where our volunteers work from, and it's therefore where the most updated news is posted. The IRC is public and very easy to access. We also post daily updates here and elsewhere on the net as to our progress. I think you might be being a little unrealistic.

We're also trying to operate a coin with no premine and no funding, which requires both volunteers and fundraising. If you're feeling fleeced, I'm betting its because you're hesitant to actually join us where the core community hangs out. There is just too much signal to noise ratio on BCT for it to be a productive work organization launchpad.

Best regards,

Chris



Yes i don't think there is any attempt at fleecing at all, the devs have worked very hard for very little. I can only hope they have loaded up on WC at these low prices so their work can eventually pay off.

However it is nice to have a good amount of discussion on here. Active threads attract more users and adopters.

That's a great point and thanks very much. I'll make a concerted effort to move from just "posting updates" to actually having fluid conversation on here. Just as a heads up tho, I'm unfortunately heading out of town for a family thing today and tomorrow, so won't be online as much for the next 24 hours.

Thanks again for your comments and support!

thanks i think that would be a good idea Smiley

Ok sure have a good time and catch you when you're back

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May 23, 2014, 01:24:01 PM
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I am a bit confused about the total amount of coins that can be produced. Does staking go on indefinitely?
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May 23, 2014, 01:36:21 PM
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I am a bit confused about the total amount of coins that can be produced. Does staking go on indefinitely?

yes but at 2% per year total so it only grows that much. Also keep in mind that coins are lost out of circulation through lost wallets etc so the true circulation is always less than the total amount of coins.
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May 23, 2014, 01:37:56 PM
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A irc client integrated into the wallet would not be bad at all, as shown below in the concept...

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May 23, 2014, 02:34:20 PM
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A irc client integrated into the wallet would not be bad at all, as shown below in the concept...



Haha, sweet!

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May 23, 2014, 02:38:14 PM
 #9960

A irc client integrated into the wallet would not be bad at all, as shown below in the concept...



Looks nice!

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