PNDPumperWhale
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March 17, 2015, 02:32:21 PM |
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Is everyone forgetting the multipool? Point your miners, chew the dumps away, build buy support. If everyone just says "fuck it" you're letting the dumpers win. PND was created specifically as an anti-manipulation coin.
absolutely, buy suport and we CAN WINdont let the dumpers and fuder win . PND is better than this !!
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jommy99
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March 17, 2015, 05:06:04 PM |
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usepnd.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F05%2Flogotemp25-256x300.png&t=665&c=ABo38-moYx8xWA) Will continue and we are not selling our Pandacoin, we normally sell Pandacoin but only at BuyPND.com; which due to PND market turmoil has been placed into maintenance for now. I don't want to add to any confusion, disappointment or manipulation but have to say; so far as I can tell Pandacoin and the Pandacoin community have only tried to do their best and always aimed high, this time perhaps too high. Many active members of the community are distraught even disgusted by the feelings of having been possibly played by bdanyo our central marketing leader for some months, this is a very touchy subject for us because we valued so much our clear intention and public position to be a modern fair and honest cryptocurrency. bdanyo has clearly left us and we are imagining now the worst; at first we thought he may have even died (yes that would be worst case) or had some other serious situation crash down on his personal health / life. We felt since he seemed to be holding to his own large Pandacoin investment he surely was struck by a personal tragedy. However when it was pointed out what was thought to be his Pandacoins were now in play and even being used possibly in market manipulations, we all started to feel played by a conman and even though we couldn't picture him doing anything to harm Pandacoin or our community prior to this revelation we now started to think the new worst case has happened. We can see he has been recently signing into his bitcointalk account or so it seems and that what we believe are his Pandacoins are moving and yet no word from him in his defense. I for one am still not sure his leaving was planned or if personal issues, disagreement, failure/desperation caused him to leave us and even possibly he has been scamming us / manipulating our current exchange market (or this could be our imaginations running wild?). Many are giving in due to the expected damage to Pandacoin's reputation (be forewarned this is having a serious impact especially on those who have worked long and hard to defend and develop what we have today) . To my mind the evidence is not clear that any impropriety was or is in fact being planned by any Pandacoin Development team member or former member, although we do suspect now that some has occured. Market manipulation is something all cryptocurrencies have to contend with, even Bitcoin still has a relatively tiny market compared to traditional currencies; but our Pandacoin is much smaller than BTC and is vulnerable to various methods of manipulation. In any case this will not clear up quickly imho and the dumping at 1 sat has likely given plenty of ammunition for future dumps if the Pandacoin price should rise again soon. In short for now there is much that is in the air and not settled but wanted to give some sort of clarity on usePND.com and how it is effected by our current Pandacoin situation. We plan to continue on and I will continue to stake and help support Pandacoin and those who choose to use Pandacoin. I should also warn everyone however that things can indeed get worse, we are at the bottom with a 1 sat sell wall, this to me is undervalued but understandable. That does not mean the price can't go lower, if folks want to dump Pandacoins lower they can sell for litoshi prices less than 1 satoshi. If the Market price is driven low enough we will have a hard time maintaining enough volume on BTC/PND markets to have them supported and that could also mean losing other services even our coinpayments.net support...
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March 17, 2015, 06:00:00 PM |
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So this is what it comes to now? No reasoned discussion just chaos, faulty logic and confusion.
I have an offer to anyone known to me as trustworthy and is still comitted to pnd, I will hand over admin of pandacointalk.com to you and demote myself regular member or leave if desired. I will pay hosting costs but transfer domain ownership to your nominee. You can organise and select your members without all this noise and bs. Personally I would like jommy99 to be the initial admin or transferee because he is a known and a trustworthy member of the community.
Don't destroy whatever slim chances PND has by engaging with these serial P&D parasites here.
PhiPhi
i dont get the panic either the coin is still working youre all acting like theres some hidden premine or double spend issue calm down
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March 17, 2015, 07:16:48 PM |
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Jommy99 is correct, if something doesn't happen soon, and by something, I mean a new dev team steps up to the plate, we are just going in circles and destined for the litoshi market like we were back on MintPal. The only reason we climbed out of that hole was because of the solid and consistent efforts of the dev team to set direction and bring value to the coin through innovation, regular communications, updates, releases, plans, etc., that the community could see clearly.
And here we are, going around in circles. No word from the original dev (pandacoin-official) still which kinda sucks because had she come forward with some information, at least we'd know if she planned to continue with any of the development or offer to hand it over to someone else. We don't even know that much.
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maxvolts
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March 17, 2015, 07:31:11 PM |
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Not fudding here, but it really seems pointless now. I was a big supporter of PND and have been totally gutted over this. But there aren't really any dev's involved in this coin anymore. The founder keeps promising to make an official announcement. In fact she promised on irc. But that isn't happening. I tried to speak to her on irc other day, and she spoke but said nothing really. Unless something absolutely miraculous happens, there is nothing left. Take my advice, do not buy any pnd in it's current state, it would be a massive gamble.
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March 17, 2015, 08:45:54 PM |
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I think, PND neets a greater reach. I thought on a 24h lifestream. In this lifestream i/you plays the pandacoin snake game. The people must speaking about pandacoin and with this methde we can get new pandafriends.
I see, no one interesting a way to get PND more popular... I don´t understand why people here feed trolls...
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March 17, 2015, 09:40:26 PM |
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i have heurt somthing bad engels its a take over this coin wil rise again ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) its not me (wil see) greetz old man from holland ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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PNDPumperWhale
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March 17, 2015, 10:41:23 PM |
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pnd still has a futue and you CANNOT BE DEFEATED such a small set back I have seen worse fronm many a coin . all dump as you wish but I AM HOLIDNG for a very long time !! BELIVE // FAITH // LEARN and CADEXN JOORI the budda LOVERS fuders
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jommy99
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March 17, 2015, 10:59:09 PM |
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So this is what it comes to now? No reasoned discussion just chaos, faulty logic and confusion.
I have an offer to anyone known to me as trustworthy and is still comitted to pnd, I will hand over admin of pandacointalk.com to you and demote myself regular member or leave if desired. I will pay hosting costs but transfer domain ownership to your nominee. You can organise and select your members without all this noise and bs. Personally I would like jommy99 to be the initial admin or transferee because he is a known and a trustworthy member of the community.
Don't destroy whatever slim chances PND has by engaging with these serial P&D parasites here.
PhiPhi
Thank you PhiPhi, I would be honored to help with what you were so generous to get started for us at http://www.pandacointalk.com/ in whatever capacity. I know it is quiet there at the moment but there are many very good ideas started and if anyone wants to participate in Pandacoin future development and brainstorming that would be a handy site to have.
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Joori
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March 18, 2015, 02:02:56 AM |
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pnd still has a futue and you CANNOT BE DEFEATED such a small set back I have seen worse fronm many a coin . all dump as you wish but I AM HOLIDNG for a very long time !! BELIVE // FAITH // LEARN and CADEXN JOORI the budda LOVERS fuders
I don't see where I have been fudding. I think you're on drugs m8 lol
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THE TIME HAS COME...
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March 18, 2015, 03:40:28 AM |
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I don't like...
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What goes around comes around...
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March 18, 2015, 07:33:38 AM |
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So it looks like our best developer has joined Guldencoin. I urge everyone here to never invest in that coin and keep with Pandacoin, come on community do a take over and get new devs.
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March 18, 2015, 07:55:09 AM |
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So it looks like our best developer has joined Guldencoin. I urge everyone here to never invest in that coin and keep with Pandacoin, come on community do a take over and get new devs.
So the only honest developer you had went to join a coin where the team isn't anonymous and currency is making great strides both in community and bolstering it's development team and you don't want people to look at it. Ok sure that is great advice right there! Like all of you I had the same problem with britcoin, I also tried Sterlingcoin(Might still be a success) but Guldencoin is the truth as far as I am concerned.
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March 18, 2015, 12:14:13 PM |
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So it looks like our best developer has joined Guldencoin. I urge everyone here to never invest in that coin and keep with Pandacoin, come on community do a take over and get new devs.
wow! Shock horror amDOGE! you really are a lowlife. what did you expect him to do? He was the only one who had the guts to tell us how it was. Good luck to MaNI and good luck to guldencoin. Stop being delusional and accept this coin is dead (saving a miracle) your pump plan to give you an exit strategy went wrong, and your left with a pile of crap (like i am) but hey ho, thats funny, and this is fast turning into quite an entertaining soap opera! Pmsl!
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March 18, 2015, 12:20:09 PM |
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+1 guldencoin! Go dutchies! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) +1000 good luck to them. And amDOGE, have you ever heard of 'sour grapes'
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March 18, 2015, 06:00:33 PM |
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So the question is easy - why is somebody buying 100M PND?
To give it his childern to play?
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March 18, 2015, 06:16:01 PM |
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So the question is easy - why is somebody buying 100M PND?
To give it his childern to play?
My guess is because it's a dirt cheap gamble. At this price it wouldn't take much to double or triple your money.
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March 18, 2015, 06:56:38 PM |
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So the question is easy - why is somebody buying 100M PND?
To give it his childern to play?
My guess is because it's a dirt cheap gamble. At this price it wouldn't take much to double or triple your money. More than 100 BTC invested at 1-2 sats can't be a dirty cheap gamble. It's not so difficult, look at the chart and look at the VOLUMES, that's the key. MINT was at a similar situation weeks ago, and look it now. PD: I'm a scammer so keep selling your PND at 1 sat, this thing is dead. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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March 18, 2015, 07:03:49 PM |
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So the question is easy - why is somebody buying 100M PND?
To give it his childern to play?
My guess is because it's a dirt cheap gamble. At this price it wouldn't take much to double or triple your money. More than 100 BTC invested at 1-2 sats can't be a dirty cheap gamble. It's not so difficult, look at the chart and look at the VOLUMES, that's the key. MINT was at a similar situation weeks ago, and look it now. PD: I'm a scammer so keep selling your PND at 1 sat, this thing is dead. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I did actually notice Mintcoin take off recently. Interesting. Too bad I sold mine long ago.
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