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[iCEBREAKER]

Hmm, five pages of bickering over the name 

So much for CZ's 'No True Scotsman' fallacy.

Clearly the BBR community does not want to become the Rune community. 

You can't blame us for resisting such an Epic Fail. 

Rune is an awful name, fit only for death metal bands and ghey comic books aimed at virgin basement dwelling neckbeards:

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[jl777]

Appears that BCX's claim of a CN killer exploit is confirmed (allegedly)....

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789978.0

CZ or any of the devs keeping a close eye on this?

Edit: Or is this all just one big scam?

it is not a scam

I asked anonymint some direct questions as to whether there was any realistic danger. After a bit of study, anonymint said he might have found a possible exploit, but needed a bounty to justify spending time researching it, I offered a 5 BTC bounty and suggested XMR side matched it. They did.

overnight, anonymint confirmed there is a possible attack vector and while it would take a lot of hashpower (like what BCX has) and time to setup an attack, that it was a real possibility. but it was possible that the codebase already protects against this.

he made a claim for the bounty and the info is being given to smooth who will get it to CZ. It is possible this has been already addressed, if not anonymint says he has a way to mitigate the issue.

so, there is a possible exploit, the devs will be getting the info to put in a fix before public disclosure of the details.
just another day in crypto

James

[jl777]

For the most urgent matter every to befall the crypto world, the BBR name change, I like the Boolberry Branded as Rune

We can keep the BBR symbol, it has both Boolberry for the conservatives and Rune for the radicals

James

[shojayxt]

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The essential problem here is that 60% of the community were denied their voice.
...........

The thing is that we care only about votes of our community.
And we don't care about what had written here by you, smooth or whoever came from whatever. So you just wasting your time here.
It was mentioned that vote made for people who was supported and helped our project, our community members.
This is sad that Icebreaker and teknohog, and couple of others didn't liked, but most of community supported our efforts.

Just change the name and be done with it.  If people sell their BBR and leave then that's their choice.   This ridiculous debate over the name will do more harm to BBR than the loss of a few people.  I'm not trying to disrespect anyone that doesn't want the name changed, I agree, but this has gone on long enough.  It's time to move on.  

I didn't like the thought of a name change and would prefer Boolberry over RUNE.  But I remember in the past when this discussion arose that you were adamant about the name Boolbery so I know that it is a name that you like yourself.  If you have decided to change the name that you chose and has meaning to you then nobody should stand in your way.  You launched this coin so I think that gives you the final say in this matter.

I would also like to ask those that don't want the name changed what contribution to BBR have they made other than mining/buying/trading BBR?  Have you donated anything to the dev fund?  Have you done anything other than profit off this coin?  Have you noticed the price since some additional people have gotten involved in BBR?  There is more to a coin than just a name.  If there are ideas that will further move BBR in the direction that we would all like to see it going then I am on board.  

So I think you should make an executive decision, change the name, and get back to developing this coin without these distractions.

[iCEBREAKER]

..........

The essential problem here is that 60% of the community were denied their voice.
...........

The thing is that we care only about votes of our community.
And we don't care about what had written here by you, smooth or whoever came from whatever. So you just wasting your time here.
It was mentioned that vote made for people who was supported and helped our project, our community members.
This is sad that Icebreaker and teknohog, and couple of others didn't liked, but most of community supported our efforts.

Just change the name and be done with it.  If people sell their BBR and leave then that's their choice.   This ridiculous debate over the name will do more harm to BBR than the loss of a few people.  I'm not trying to disrespect anyone that doesn't want the name changed, I agree, but this has gone on long enough.  It's time to move on.  

I didn't like the thought of a name change and would prefer Boolberry over RUNE.  But I remember in the past when this discussion arose that you were adamant about the name Boolbery so I know that it is a name that you like yourself.  If you have decided to change the name that you chose and has meaning to you then nobody should stand in your way.  You launched this coin so I think that gives you the final say in this matter.

I would also like to ask those that don't want the name changed what contribution to BBR have they made other than mining/buying/trading BBR?  Have you donated anything to the dev fund?  Have you done anything other than profit off this coin?  Have you noticed the price since some additional people have gotten involved in BBR?  There is more to a coin than just a name.  If there are ideas that will further move BBR in the direction that we would all like to see it going then I am on board.  

So I think you should make an executive decision, change the name, and get back to developing this coin without these distractions.

CZ has every right to change the name.  Even to something as terrible as "Rune."

But he can't make it look like he community supports him.

He's trying to anyway.  That is 'pissing on us and calling it rain' to use a popular English idiom.  Or in Russian, 'hanging wet noodles behind our ears.'

[crypto_zoidberg]

Techie question...

I'm having issues sending anything over 100 BBR from my wallet.

I can send 99 BBR ok. However whenever I try to send 100 or more I get the follow error message,

Failed to send transaction: transaction was rejected by daemon

Any ideas on what the issue could be?

I'm using the mac wallet.

Thanks in advance!

Can you send me your logs(qt-boolb.log in folder where exe file) in PM ?

[slapper]

..........

The essential problem here is that 60% of the community were denied their voice.
...........

The thing is that we care only about votes of our community.
And we don't care about what had written here by you, smooth or whoever came from whatever. So you just wasting your time here.
It was mentioned that vote made for people who was supported and helped our project, our community members.
This is sad that Icebreaker and teknohog, and couple of others didn't liked, but most of community supported our efforts.

Just change the name and be done with it.  If people sell their BBR and leave then that's their choice.   This ridiculous debate over the name will do more harm to BBR than the loss of a few people.  I'm not trying to disrespect anyone that doesn't want the name changed, I agree, but this has gone on long enough.  It's time to move on.  

I didn't like the thought of a name change and would prefer Boolberry over RUNE.  But I remember in the past when this discussion arose that you were adamant about the name Boolbery so I know that it is a name that you like yourself.  If you have decided to change the name that you chose and has meaning to you then nobody should stand in your way.  You launched this coin so I think that gives you the final say in this matter.

I would also like to ask those that don't want the name changed what contribution to BBR have they made other than mining/buying/trading BBR?  Have you donated anything to the dev fund?  Have you done anything other than profit off this coin?  Have you noticed the price since some additional people have gotten involved in BBR?  There is more to a coin than just a name.  If there are ideas that will further move BBR in the direction that we would all like to see it going then I am on board.  

So I think you should make an executive decision, change the name, and get back to developing this coin without these distractions.

CZ has every right to change the name.  Even to something as terrible as "Rune."

But he can't make it look like he community supports him.

He's trying to anyway.  That is 'pissing on us and calling it rain' to use a popular English idiom.  Or in Russian, 'hanging wet noodles behind our ears.'

I am with you man. The nerve of this developer. I thought this was a joke coin because of the Boolberry name. If they are trying to become serious with name change etc i be tripping and dumping.

[iCEBREAKER]

I am with you man. The nerve of this developer. I thought this was a joke coin because of the Boolberry name. If they are trying to become serious with name change etc i be tripping and dumping.

What a shitty attempt at sarcasm.  That's all you have left, since sussex has demolished all other failed attempts to rationalize the Rune rebrand.

I fully supported CZ's right to change the name of his coin.  Can you not read English?  Try Google translate if not.

The "nerve of this developer" is where he overrules dissent and then pretends the dissent is from outside the community, as an excuse to ignore it and pretend more than 1/3 of the community is behind him.

Are you saying "Rune" is a "serious" name? 

If so, you might be the dumbest person to ever live on this planet.  Rune is a joke and everybody but you, CZ, and SEO marketing flunkie know it.

Look at the heavy metal bands named Rune.  Look at the comic book named Rune.  Campy?  Yes.  100% Not Serious?  Yes.

[slapper]

I am with you man. The nerve of this developer. I thought this was a joke coin because of the Boolberry name. If they are trying to become serious with name change etc i be tripping and dumping.

What a shitty attempt at sarcasm.  That's all you have left, since sussex has demolished all other failed attempts to rationalize the Rune rebrand.

I fully supported CZ's right to change the name of his coin.  Can you not read English?  Try Google translate if not.

The "nerve of this developer" is where he overrules dissent and then pretends the dissent is from outside the community, as an excuse to ignore it and pretend more than 1/3 of the community is behind him.

Are you saying "Rune" is a "serious" name? 

If so, you might be the dumbest person to ever live on this planet.  Rune is a joke and everybody but you, CZ, and SEO marketing flunkie know it.

Look at the heavy metal bands named Rune.  Look at the comic book named Rune.  Campy?  Yes.  100% Not Serious?  Yes.

You are misunderstanding me. The dissent is largely from you and sussex from what I see so far, like again and again and again. I don't know if Rune is serious or not, it was the better among the 3 choices for me.

I just thought this was a joke coin LOL. And this is a solid post from you. These cheerleaders are getting delusional.

BBR fluctuates around XMR just as LTC to BTC and silver to gold.  The market disagrees with your self-congratulatory assertions of Great Success.  We all know why...

XMR is a much bigger effort, involving very prominent Hero/Whale Members.  You OTOH have been here for one year.  CZ is an unknown with suspected ties to the elusive BCN devs.

The name is not a major factor.  I can dismiss it. 

If BBR was named Rune originally, I would have never bought a single one.  Runes just means 'letter.'  Letters are not scare nor intrinsically valuable.  Rune sounds like a trying too hard to be cool name that a young teenager, barely off of his Huffy Vortex bicycle, would think of.

Vortex is a sweet name...for a kid's BMX in the 1980s.  http://www.ghmasonphoto.com/images/bmxm/88vortex_03.jpg

Rune is a sweet name...for a Scandinavian neo-nazi speed metal band that practices in the lead singer's anesthesiologist father's three car garage.  http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Rune/7496

Thanks for being positive in the face of my grumpy grumbles.  Don't worry if people make fun of BBR's name.  They did it to Google and Yahoo too.  Let the tech speak for itself, don't try so hard to make the branding carry the coin.  It won't because it can't.   

I am with you all the way man. I think these people are trying to too hard. As long as they remain subservient, I can support them. Otherwise I am out.

[hornyPo]

What is iCEBREAKER meant? It is a Spearmint Candy, a big ship breaking ice, or a D.E.A. operation?  

Just tease, don´t mean it serious.  

 

[darlidada]

I am with you man. The nerve of this developer. I thought this was a joke coin because of the Boolberry name. If they are trying to become serious with name change etc i be tripping and dumping.

What a shitty attempt at sarcasm.  That's all you have left, since sussex has demolished all other failed attempts to rationalize the Rune rebrand.

I fully supported CZ's right to change the name of his coin.  Can you not read English?  Try Google translate if not.

The "nerve of this developer" is where he overrules dissent and then pretends the dissent is from outside the community, as an excuse to ignore it and pretend more than 1/3 of the community is behind him.

Are you saying "Rune" is a "serious" name?  

If so, you might be the dumbest person to ever live on this planet.  Rune is a joke and everybody but you, CZ, and SEO marketing flunkie know it.

Look at the heavy metal bands named Rune.  Look at the comic book named Rune.  Campy?  Yes.  100% Not Serious?  Yes.

Dont forget Runescape...

[sussex]

You are misunderstanding me. The dissent is largely from you and sussex from what I see so far,

Then open your eyes, you will see much more.....

Rune    17 (25.4%)
Secore    3 (4.5%)
Vortex    2 (3%)
Boolberry    41 (61.2%)
BitRing    2 (3%)
Boollion    2 (3%)
Total Voters: 67

[sussex]

..........

The essential problem here is that 60% of the community were denied their voice.
...........

The thing is that we care only about votes of our community.
And we don't care about what had written here by you, smooth or whoever came from whatever. So you just wasting your time here.
It was mentioned that vote made for people who was supported and helped our project, our community members.
This is sad that Icebreaker and teknohog, and couple of others didn't liked, but most of community supported our efforts.

CZ, this is what you wrote to me on 31st May (sorry to publicise it, but you are rather forcing my hand) - this is from when the last naming furore was at it's height and I was again being vocal about my thoughts.

Thank you for trying help me, i agree with your quote, but have no idea what to do with that.
Every name i make is the worse than previous.
May be its good to stop that. I don't like what community suggest actually.
What would you do one in my place?

It would seem you considered me a part of the community back then - what has changed to make it not the case now? My stance has not changed one bit, so why is it a problem now?

Why did you ask me my thoughts back then, but today I get "we don't care about what had written here by you, smooth or whoever came from whatever.".

Who is we?

It was mentioned that vote made for people who was supported and helped our project, our community members.

No, it was a vote made for people who agreed with you.

[iCEBREAKER]

I am with you man. The nerve of this developer. I thought this was a joke coin because of the Boolberry name. If they are trying to become serious with name change etc i be tripping and dumping.

Look at the heavy metal bands named Rune.  Look at the comic book named Rune.  Campy?  Yes.  100% Not Serious?  Yes.

Dont forget Runescape...

Sorry for misunderstanding you slapper.  I had to read your words with an accept to make them work right.   

As for Runescape, please pass the brain bleach!

[tljenson]

You are misunderstanding me. The dissent is largely from you and sussex from what I see so far,

Then open your eyes, you will see much more.....

Rune    17 (25.4%)
Secore    3 (4.5%)
Vortex    2 (3%)
Boolberry    41 (61.2%)
BitRing    2 (3%)
Boollion    2 (3%)
Total Voters: 67

OK we've pissed the dev off, time to forget about it before we do more damage to this coin and the community.

[surfer43]

You are misunderstanding me. The dissent is largely from you and sussex from what I see so far,

Then open your eyes, you will see much more.....

Rune    17 (25.4%)
Secore    3 (4.5%)
Vortex    2 (3%)
Boolberry    41 (61.2%)
BitRing    2 (3%)
Boollion    2 (3%)
Total Voters: 67

And how many of those votes are from sockpuppets? Stop acting like that poll is legitimate, anyone who cares enough could spend an hour and get any of those choices in first place.

[sussex]

You are misunderstanding me. The dissent is largely from you and sussex from what I see so far,

Then open your eyes, you will see much more.....

Rune    17 (25.4%)
Secore    3 (4.5%)
Vortex    2 (3%)
Boolberry    41 (61.2%)
BitRing    2 (3%)
Boollion    2 (3%)
Total Voters: 67

And how many of those votes are from sockpuppets? Stop acting like that poll is legitimate, anyone who cares enough could spend an hour and get any of those choices in first place.

Who knows?

But then again, how many sockpuppets are there for Rune? Are there only Boolberry sockpuppets?

It's not me trying to convince others of the legitimacy of a poll, if you want to see real vote rigging head over to the official poll.

[tljenson]

Do we really need to go on an on and on with this stupid squable about he name. When the dev is upset, and there may be a huge exploit, which the dev needs to focus his attention on, and not this constant inane bickering. I quote from the Monero thread.

Quote from: TheFascistMind on Today at 03:50:53 PM
I had a sudden epiphany while at dinner which is BCX's exploit, well at least I can find the i == s and from that it may be possible to factor 'x' the private key.

I am trying to think of a fix. So far I can not think of any fix. I think BCX is correct, this is a coin killer.

I will also be contacting BCX to see if he wants to buy it from me since he wrote publicly that someone offered in 100 BTC for this.

BCX, do you have any interest in buying this from me instead of me selling to James, smooth, or BrilliantRocket?


I received the above PM from "The Fascist" aka "Anonymint". It seems as if he has also found an exploit.

I have no interest in buying any exploit or any interest in attacking Monero. I am neither for or against the coin.

I do however see a serious flaw inherent to all CN coins with Monero being the focal point.

With this exploit expanding into the wild, holding any sum of funds in XMR you cannot lose is foolish.

I can absolutely guarantee you as soon as this exploit is successfully deployed, every single exchange will halt trading
and there will a lot of people holding coins they cannot trade anywhere.

As Anonymint also indicated, this is indeed a coin killer.


~BCX~

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789978.msg8902631#msg8902631

Now I going to go take an Advil before my head explodes.

[Bitcrea]

I would highly encourage you to stop discussing the name. It does not help in any way and it does not make an influence to the final decision. Voting has been already finished. Final official decision will be announced soon. Posting metal band pictures won't discourage us to move forward for the better good.

Stay with us and support us or leave us - it's your choice. For all the project (doesn't matter the name) supporters I would like to say big thank you!

Bitcrea

[sussex]

Do we really need to go on an on and on with this stupid squable about he name. When the dev is upset, and there may be a huge exploit, which the dev needs to focus his attention on, and not this constant inane bickering. I quote from the Monero thread.

Quote from: TheFascistMind on Today at 03:50:53 PM
I had a sudden epiphany while at dinner which is BCX's exploit, well at least I can find the i == s and from that it may be possible to factor 'x' the private key.

I am trying to think of a fix. So far I can not think of any fix. I think BCX is correct, this is a coin killer.

I will also be contacting BCX to see if he wants to buy it from me since he wrote publicly that someone offered in 100 BTC for this.

BCX, do you have any interest in buying this from me instead of me selling to James, smooth, or BrilliantRocket?


I received the above PM from "The Fascist" aka "Anonymint". It seems as if he has also found an exploit.

I have no interest in buying any exploit or any interest in attacking Monero. I am neither for or against the coin.

I do however see a serious flaw inherent to all CN coins with Monero being the focal point.

With this exploit expanding into the wild, holding any sum of funds in XMR you cannot lose is foolish.

I can absolutely guarantee you as soon as this exploit is successfully deployed, every single exchange will halt trading
and there will a lot of people holding coins they cannot trade anywhere.

As Anonymint also indicated, this is indeed a coin killer.


~BCX~

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789978.msg8902631#msg8902631

Now I going to go take an Advil before my head explodes.

It's a good job you're not the marketing guy.