maxcan
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October 09, 2014, 05:43:45 PM |
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I'm disappoint he still with supernet.
why do you say that?
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Eastwind
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October 09, 2014, 07:19:10 PM |
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I just want to say with windjc out and with your decision to turn down funding for whatever principles they wanted you to go against. I applaud you. If I can get some bbr's cheap enough I may  Regardless of the price - your decision reconfirmed legitimacy. I hope we can figure out the funding. Shall we change the project donation to 2-5% of the minted coins?
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crypto_zoidberg (OP)
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October 09, 2014, 08:07:54 PM |
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I'm disappoint he still with supernet.
why do you say that? Just my opinion on nxt and stuff. nxt != James & nxt != SuperNet James do projects that run on nxt platform as i understand it. btw: why you don't give a chances to SuperNet ?
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pt7
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October 09, 2014, 08:21:57 PM |
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I just want to say with windjc out and with your decision to turn down funding for whatever principles they wanted you to go against. I applaud you. If I can get some bbr's cheap enough I may  Regardless of the price - your decision reconfirmed legitimacy. I hope we can figure out the funding. Shall we change the project donation to 2-5% of the minted coins? My vote is 5%. I wonder if clintar's address donation format (YOURADDRESS#DONATIONADDRESS%PERCENT) can be expanded to include multiple donations e.g., YOURADDRESS#DONATIONADDRESS1%PERCENT#DONATIONADDRESS2%PERCENT Or will it hit the command line limit? Aliases would be nice: e.g., @myalias#@mbk%1#@devfund%4 This percentage would be in "addition to" the project percentage
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otila
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October 09, 2014, 08:36:11 PM |
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I wonder if clintar's address donation format (YOURADDRESS#DONATIONADDRESS%PERCENT) can be expanded to include multiple donations e.g., YOURADDRESS#DONATIONADDRESS1%PERCENT#DONATIONADDRESS2%PERCENT Or will it hit the command line limit?
$ getconf ARG_MAX 2097152 $ ulimit -s 32768 $ getconf ARG_MAX 8388608
(getconf in bytes, ulimit in kilobytes) Windows users unfortunately have probably smaller limits.
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maxcan
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October 09, 2014, 08:47:52 PM |
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I don't know about james/dont care either, and so far i think im not personally affected by his business, whatever their nature may be, but nxt is a dark scammy spot on the crypto world that rains over all coins, i don't get supernet and i don't get why a pow coin want to do with it, but if its not really related to nxt it maybe a good sign, i'm still staying away, too many dark clouds over it, but to not keeping going offtopic i'll end saying its just my opinion
do you dislike it because it's 100% PoS? i really don't know much about it. i've wondered how someone might implement a crypto that didn't require a PoW without being able to sell off the while lot if it gained some value. anyway, i should think zoidberg has enough sense to take care to learn fully how supernet works before building it into bbr after all his hard work on it  No rise, I don't know why fund raising was canceled, I suggested the same to Monero a long time ago and I think its the way to go rather than rely on the will of a few unknowns investors (bbr case).
what kind of fundraising do you mean? for what purpose - helping zoidberg? advertising?
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pt7
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October 09, 2014, 08:50:42 PM |
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I just want to say with windjc out and with your decision to turn down funding for whatever principles they wanted you to go against. I applaud you. If I can get some bbr's cheap enough I may  Regardless of the price - your decision reconfirmed legitimacy. I hope we can figure out the funding. Shall we change the project donation to 2-5% of the minted coins? My vote is 5%. I wonder if clintar's address donation format (YOURADDRESS#DONATIONADDRESS%PERCENT) can be expanded to include multiple donations e.g., YOURADDRESS#DONATIONADDRESS1%PERCENT#DONATIONADDRESS2%PERCENT Or will it hit the command line limit? Aliases would be nice: e.g., @myalias#mbk%1#@devfund%4 This percentage would be in "addition to" the project percentage No rise, I don't know why fund raising was canceled, I suggested the same to Monero a long time ago and I think its the way to go rather than rely on the will of a few unknowns investors (bbr case). If many feel strongly about "no rise", then my suggestion is strictly between the miner and the pool operator. One can choose (or create) a pool that has a zero donation policy.
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maxcan
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October 09, 2014, 08:57:24 PM |
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If many feel strongly about "no rise", then my suggestion is strictly between the miner and the pool operator. One can choose (or create) a pool that has a zero donation policy.
it might be more valuable for a pool to scale their donations based on the price of the coin. 5% sounds well enough based on how much it will support zoidberg at the current going rate, but silly if you consider the total supply. IF we want only to help him day to day. but as you said, pools can pick their own donation %, so the miners will decide what proportion of which % is donated!
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iCEBREAKER
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October 10, 2014, 02:17:56 AM |
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a lot of crypto coders don't understand "C" very well, so right now even the code is a little out of their depth.
I understand that C is not ideal for security purposes compared to C++, and its usage was responsible for the Troll Block exploit that recently caused Monero no small amount hassle.
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podizzle
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October 10, 2014, 02:18:04 AM |
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im glad to hear that the supernet deal with bbr is still on! two great techs combined into one!!!!
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tljenson
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October 10, 2014, 03:28:32 AM |
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I am really happy, that some of you are talking about how to better the coin. Gives me hope that the coin can move forward. THE XST forum has descended into chaos, page after page of trolls and fudsters, and the idiots who engage them. Its one of the indicators I use when I'm investing in a coin. How much positive interest there is in a coin, and signs that the dev and the community are interested in helping promote the coin, and to improve on it. The idea of increasing the donation to 5% is the first constructive thing I've heard since CZ decided not to go forward with the fundraiser.
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TooDumbForBitcoin
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October 10, 2014, 03:35:37 AM |
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I am really happy, that some of you are talking about how to better the coin. Gives me hope that the coin can move forward. THE XST forum has descended into chaos, page after page of trolls and fudsters, and the idiots who engage them. Its one of the indicators I use when I'm investing in a coin. How much positive interest there is in a coin, and signs that the dev and the community are interested in helping promote the coin, and to improve on it. The idea of increasing the donation to 5% is the first constructive thing I've heard since CZ decided not to go forward with the fundraiser.
Increasing the donation to 6% is a 20% better idea.
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iCEBREAKER
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October 10, 2014, 03:48:12 AM |
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I just want to say with windjc out and with your decision to turn down funding for whatever principles they wanted you to go against. I applaud you. If I can get some bbr's cheap enough I may  Regardless of the price - your decision reconfirmed legitimacy. I hope we can figure out the funding. Shall we change the project donation to 2-5% of the minted coins? I think a 'Coin Maintenance and Development' fee of 2-5% is not only justified, but required by circumstance. Charge the miners a 2-5% tax of each block of CZ's coin they find, to compensate him for his work and provide for the future of the coin.
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clintar
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October 10, 2014, 03:48:32 AM Last edit: October 10, 2014, 04:05:46 AM by clintar |
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I am really happy, that some of you are talking about how to better the coin. Gives me hope that the coin can move forward. THE XST forum has descended into chaos, page after page of trolls and fudsters, and the idiots who engage them. Its one of the indicators I use when I'm investing in a coin. How much positive interest there is in a coin, and signs that the dev and the community are interested in helping promote the coin, and to improve on it. The idea of increasing the donation to 5% is the first constructive thing I've heard since CZ decided not to go forward with the fundraiser.
Increasing the donation to 6% is a 20% better idea. Math joke. I got it.  I've added a 2% dev fee at my pool, and lowered my fee to 1%. Maybe I'll set up another pool instance that will listen on another port with a higher fee, and possibly reverse it at some point, so the main ports mine at 4%, and the alternate ports only do 2%. Any other ideas/comments/name calling because I just went ahead and did it?
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tljenson
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October 10, 2014, 03:50:25 AM |
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I am really happy, that some of you are talking about how to better the coin. Gives me hope that the coin can move forward. THE XST forum has descended into chaos, page after page of trolls and fudsters, and the idiots who engage them. Its one of the indicators I use when I'm investing in a coin. How much positive interest there is in a coin, and signs that the dev and the community are interested in helping promote the coin, and to improve on it. The idea of increasing the donation to 5% is the first constructive thing I've heard since CZ decided not to go forward with the fundraiser.
Increasing the donation to 6% is a 20% better idea. Well you certainly not Too Dumb for Bitcoin. Yous should change your handle 
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tljenson
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October 10, 2014, 03:51:44 AM |
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I just want to say with windjc out and with your decision to turn down funding for whatever principles they wanted you to go against. I applaud you. If I can get some bbr's cheap enough I may  Regardless of the price - your decision reconfirmed legitimacy. I hope we can figure out the funding. Shall we change the project donation to 2-5% of the minted coins? I think a 'Coin Maintenance and Development' fee of 2-5% is not only justified, but required by circumstance. Charge the miners a 2-5% tax of each block of CZ's coin they find, to compensate him for his work and provide for the future of the coin. +1 Now that is more like it!!
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windjc
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October 10, 2014, 04:23:32 AM |
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I just want to say with windjc out and with your decision to turn down funding for whatever principles they wanted you to go against. I applaud you. If I can get some bbr's cheap enough I may  Regardless of the price - your decision reconfirmed legitimacy. I hope we can figure out the funding. Shall we change the project donation to 2-5% of the minted coins? I think a 'Coin Maintenance and Development' fee of 2-5% is not only justified, but required by circumstance. Charge the miners a 2-5% tax of each block of CZ's coin they find, to compensate him for his work and provide for the future of the coin. +1 Now that is more like it!! I must admit this is an ironic conversation about how to raise funds. The idea that CZ turned down would have actually paid the miners 10x more in tx fees than they currently make. Not taxed them.
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iCEBREAKER
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October 10, 2014, 04:32:31 AM |
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I must admit this is an ironic conversation about how to raise funds. The idea that CZ turned down would have actually paid the miners 10x more in tx fees than they currently make. Not taxed them.
Nobody except you cares about the scam CZ in which declined to participate. Don't you have search engines to optimize or something? 
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windjc
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October 10, 2014, 04:34:08 AM |
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I must admit this is an ironic conversation about how to raise funds. The idea that CZ turned down would have actually paid the miners 10x more in tx fees than they currently make. Not taxed them.
Nobody except you cares about the scam CZ in which declined to participate. Don't you have search engines to optimize or something?  Actually a lot of people care. You are just ignorant. Again. Don't you have some C++ code to write to secure the future of crypto?  And as far as your junior high school jabs at me about SEO, I have actually made over a million dollars in SEO related businesses that Ive own and/or sold. Its mainly how I acquired such a large crypto bankroll. Yes, a bankroll that Ive documented with screen shots in my post history, so dont ask me to provide any "proof." Go find it yourself. I'd love to know your business background and why anyone would want to listen to your random internet opinions. Im always open to learn from someone with a track record in something. 
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October 10, 2014, 06:11:23 AM |
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Rather than argue why not just use a spare cpu if you have one and mine straight to CZ's alias at clintar's pool you can just put @zoidberg in the little box and check how much has been raised. I don't think CZ is going to try and change things to ask for more, it doesn't seem to be his style. So if you want to support further development with no strings attached just do it. I see this as a way the community can show CZ that we can do more than just bitch about everything including each other. If you took the time read this thank you Jon 
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