[BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed Since 2014

[ninjacoins]

Is there any chance Boolberry will have a masternode system or similar?

[wenjiannin]

Thank you 4x5 (400BBR) and 2coynz (200BBR) for the donations towards the Kucoin listing!

what is  the listing fee for Kucoin?

I sent you PM. These exchanges don't like having their fees public as each fee is on a coin by coin basis so out of respect for them, I'm getting listing donations through PM.

Any updates on Kucoin? does implementation typically take a long time?

Still trying to raise funds for the listing fee.. At the moment we've only raised about 10% of the fee. I don't mind covering the rest but I've already put a lot of coins into Boolberry R&D. We need some of the other holders to start contributing to project costs.

whelp hopefully you get the fee, if thats the only thing standing in the way? Id think there are a few out there with a rather large supply at a low accusation cost that will come forward and help out, they are the ones with the most to gain.

Maybe an update with how the R&D progress is going will motivate the community to come forward and get it listed?  From past post correct me if I'm wrong, lots of that R&D seemed to have been focused towards the other project in hopes of a fork or?? there hasn't been any announcement from CZ or anyone else over than wallet fix.  

No worries mate. If we don't raise enough for the listing fee then I'll refund everyone who donated to it and cancel the integration.
 

and what's the point? what will be the next steps after cancelation?

any big exchange will not offer small listing fee. could be the same situation.

we can try to put pressure on exchanges(like poloniex) where boolberry balances is “freezing”.may be when withdraws enable donations will be going faster.

100% true a lot of people have not much stake in bbr right now because poloniex stolen their coins. Also xdn and xcn all locked there by that tristan da costa or whatever that ass hole is called.

All my coins have the poloniex , and now they can't get it out. If I can take it out, I can donate 50%, and that will be a big number, about 10000BBR

[b4h4mu7]

Is there any chance Boolberry will have a masternode system or similar?

Zoidberg is planning to bring in a Proof of Stake hybrid system into Boolberry. Dash's masternode system started out as a privacy mechanism for its coinjoin system but at it core it is basically a Proof of Stake layer that requires users have a 1000 coins to participate. Since Boolberry was designed from the ground up for privacy the coinjoin mixing layer of the "masternode" system is unnecessary. By design their system is not very egalitarian and because of that it drives the price up by requiring users to have 1000 coins and those coins remain off market staking which also reduces the availability of the coin supply.

[ninjacoins]

Is there any chance Boolberry will have a masternode system or similar?

Zoidberg is planning to bring in a Proof of Stake hybrid system into Boolberry. Dash's masternode system started out as a privacy mechanism for its coinjoin system but at it core it is basically a Proof of Stake layer that requires users have a 1000 coins to participate. By design their system is not very egalitarian and because of that it drives the price up by requiring users to have 1000 coins and those coins remain off market staking which also reduces the availability of the coin supply.

Cool. Wouldnt the reduced supply be beneficial in increasing the price? Less circulating supply plus more demand.

[b4h4mu7]

Is there any chance Boolberry will have a masternode system or similar?

Zoidberg is planning to bring in a Proof of Stake hybrid system into Boolberry. Dash's masternode system started out as a privacy mechanism for its coinjoin system but at it core it is basically a Proof of Stake layer that requires users have a 1000 coins to participate. By design their system is not very egalitarian and because of that it drives the price up by requiring users to have 1000 coins and those coins remain off market staking which also reduces the availability of the coin supply.

Cool. Wouldnt the reduced supply be beneficial in increasing the price? Less circulating supply plus more demand.

Yes it would. It's proven very effective for Dash. It might be something for the community to discuss with Zoidberg as an option. I personally prefer egalitarianism (any amount can stake) which would let everyone help secure the network by staking. I see there are some movements in the Dash community now to lower the masternode requirement.

Another thing to consider is CN projects have daemon and wallet as two separate processes. In theory, one could run a daemon and allow others to connect remotely to it so they don't have to sync daemon. This "Masternode" daemon could be compensated for its service through a fee for each user that uses it, similar to how Dash's masternodes are compensated for providing privacy.

[b4h4mu7]

All my coins have the poloniex , and now they can't get it out. If I can take it out, I can donate 50%, and that will be a big number, about 10000BBR

Hi,

Have you tried making post on their reddit page? It seems like the only place they will respond to any claims. I think we should start some kind of thread to get a total amount of BBR frozen on Poloniex then after we have a total count or close to one, proceed to hire legal team to pursue them to release funds and possibly damages for inconvenience caused by their actions.

[ninjacoins]

Is there any chance Boolberry will have a masternode system or similar?

Zoidberg is planning to bring in a Proof of Stake hybrid system into Boolberry. Dash's masternode system started out as a privacy mechanism for its coinjoin system but at it core it is basically a Proof of Stake layer that requires users have a 1000 coins to participate. By design their system is not very egalitarian and because of that it drives the price up by requiring users to have 1000 coins and those coins remain off market staking which also reduces the availability of the coin supply.

Cool. Wouldnt the reduced supply be beneficial in increasing the price? Less circulating supply plus more demand.

Yes it would. It's proven very effective for Dash. It might be something for the community to discuss with Zoidberg as an option. I personally prefer egalitarianism (any amount can stake) which would let everyone help secure the network by staking. I see there are some movements in the Dash community now to lower the masternode requirement.

Another thing to consider is CN projects have daemon and wallet as two separate processes. In theory, one could run a daemon and allow others to connect remotely to it so they don't have to sync daemon. This "Masternode" daemon could be compensated for its service through a fee for each user that uses it, similar to how Dash's masternodes are compensated for providing privacy.

Yeah, i quite like that (Any amount can stake) mechanism. I think Zoidberg will have a cool hybrid system in place.

[b4h4mu7]

All my coins have the poloniex , and now they can't get it out. If I can take it out, I can donate 50%, and that will be a big number, about 10000BBR

Hi,

Have you tried making post on their reddit page? It seems like the only place they will respond to any claims. I think we should start some kind of thread to get a total amount of BBR frozen on Poloniex then after we have a total count or close to one, proceed to hire legal team to pursue them to release funds and possibly damages for inconvenience caused by their actions.

Hi wenjiannin,

I've started a Boolberry claims thread for all victims in this community that have pain and suffering claims against Bittrex or Poloniex. Hopefully we can get a full accounting of the amount frozen and then move towards legal action against them to force them to release everyone's funds. There is no scenario where this situation is acceptable and there is also no shortage of law firms that would take up this case on contingency basis for a portion of the damages claim. Unlike the Mt Gox claim (https://www.mtgoxlegal.com/) both exchanges are still operational and have not declared bankruptcy yet.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2811962.0

[b4h4mu7]

New BBR explorer URL:

https://boolberry.io/en/

[Entusiasta]

Is there any chance Boolberry will have a masternode system or similar?

Zoidberg is planning to bring in a Proof of Stake hybrid system into Boolberry. Dash's masternode system started out as a privacy mechanism for its coinjoin system but at it core it is basically a Proof of Stake layer that requires users have a 1000 coins to participate. By design their system is not very egalitarian and because of that it drives the price up by requiring users to have 1000 coins and those coins remain off market staking which also reduces the availability of the coin supply.

Cool. Wouldnt the reduced supply be beneficial in increasing the price? Less circulating supply plus more demand.

Yes it would. It's proven very effective for Dash. It might be something for the community to discuss with Zoidberg as an option. I personally prefer egalitarianism (any amount can stake) which would let everyone help secure the network by staking. I see there are some movements in the Dash community now to lower the masternode requirement.

Another thing to consider is CN projects have daemon and wallet as two separate processes. In theory, one could run a daemon and allow others to connect remotely to it so they don't have to sync daemon. This "Masternode" daemon could be compensated for its service through a fee for each user that uses it, similar to how Dash's masternodes are compensated for providing privacy.

1.- How do you know a master node has not been compromised? How do you know all masternode network has not been hacked?  PoW is the only solution to the Byzantine Generals' Problem. PoS is not a PoW, so it has an inherent risk. http://nakamotoinstitute.org/mempool/proof-that-proof-of-work-is-the-only-solution-to-the-byzantine-generals-problem/

2.- There are no ASICs for wildkeccack, and BBR has a well distributed hashingpower.

3.- The first and most succeful cryptocoin is pure PoW.

4.- Crytpcoin leaders in privacy vertical are pure PoW.

5.- Dash is not a cryptocurrency to imitate: its mixing system is horrifying, you need a course to temper it. And its does not garanted privacy because PoS cannot solve the  Byzantine Generals' Problem.

6.- The "availability of the coin supply" should be reduced by the quality of BBR, security of its blockchain and privacy must be the focus: "Privacy and Security - Guaranted".


So, what's the point in PoS for BBR?

[rdnkjdi]

Is there any chance Boolberry will have a masternode system or similar?

Zoidberg is planning to bring in a Proof of Stake hybrid system into Boolberry. Dash's masternode system started out as a privacy mechanism for its coinjoin system but at it core it is basically a Proof of Stake layer that requires users have a 1000 coins to participate. By design their system is not very egalitarian and because of that it drives the price up by requiring users to have 1000 coins and those coins remain off market staking which also reduces the availability of the coin supply.

Cool. Wouldnt the reduced supply be beneficial in increasing the price? Less circulating supply plus more demand.

I would rather let scammed people get their coins and dump us into oblivion than build success on the back of a shady exchange screwing people over

[b4h4mu7]

Is there any chance Boolberry will have a masternode system or similar?

Zoidberg is planning to bring in a Proof of Stake hybrid system into Boolberry. Dash's masternode system started out as a privacy mechanism for its coinjoin system but at it core it is basically a Proof of Stake layer that requires users have a 1000 coins to participate. By design their system is not very egalitarian and because of that it drives the price up by requiring users to have 1000 coins and those coins remain off market staking which also reduces the availability of the coin supply.

Cool. Wouldnt the reduced supply be beneficial in increasing the price? Less circulating supply plus more demand.

Yes it would. It's proven very effective for Dash. It might be something for the community to discuss with Zoidberg as an option. I personally prefer egalitarianism (any amount can stake) which would let everyone help secure the network by staking. I see there are some movements in the Dash community now to lower the masternode requirement.

Another thing to consider is CN projects have daemon and wallet as two separate processes. In theory, one could run a daemon and allow others to connect remotely to it so they don't have to sync daemon. This "Masternode" daemon could be compensated for its service through a fee for each user that uses it, similar to how Dash's masternodes are compensated for providing privacy.

1.- How do you know a master node has not been compromised? How do you know all masternode network has not been hacked?  PoW is the only solution to the Byzantine Generals' Problem. PoS is not a PoW, so it has an inherent risk. http://nakamotoinstitute.org/mempool/proof-that-proof-of-work-is-the-only-solution-to-the-byzantine-generals-problem/

2.- There are no ASICs for wildkeccack, and BBR has a well distributed hashingpower.

3.- The first and most succeful cryptocoin is pure PoW.

4.- Crytpcoin leaders in privacy vertical are pure PoW.

5.- Dash is not a cryptocurrency to imitate: its mixing system is horrifying, you need a course to temper it. And its does not garanted privacy because PoS cannot solve the  Byzantine Generals' Problem.

6.- The "availability of the coin supply" should be reduced by the quality of BBR, security of its blockchain and privacy must be the focus: "Privacy and Security - Guaranted".


So, what's the point in PoS for BBR?

Hi there!

1 - I'm not an advocate of masternodes in the traditional sense. As mentioned in my earlier post, Boolberry was designed from the ground up for privacy and efficiency so bolting some archaic coinjoin based system doesn't make sense from any angle. The theoretical remote "masternode" concept I spoke of is something that is possible across CN projects as the daemon and wallet are two separate processes. The main point for the latter would be compensation in the way of a convenience fee for running said nodes.

2 - Agreed

3 - Agreed

4 - Dash is still technically in the privacy vertical even though their coinjoin system is the technological equivalent of a horse and carriage in comparison to Boolberry.

5 - Agreed

6 - Agreed. This is why I said, "I personally prefer egalitarianism (any amount can stake) which would let everyone help secure the network by staking." over the masternode concept which requires 1000 coins to participate in securing the network.

Some believe Zoidberg is the original author of the Cryptonote protocol, so by that logic and his previous track record - anything he adds to the system should add some value to the protocol. Be that a failover in the event the coin eventually starts hitting the tail emission or a secondary layer in the event of network attack. If you look at Monero's solution to the former, they essentially have an infinite supply of coins.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/7nox43/is_it_good_that_monero_has_an_infinite_supply/

The system Zoidberg described is a hybrid PoW/PoS system, not a pure PoS system. I would take a hybrid system over an inflationary cryptocurrency any day of the week. If you notice he made some very strategic changes when Boolberry was launched and those changes have been able to minimize the block chain size by over 90% in comparison to Monero which was launched at the same time and mitigate temporal analysis attempts.

I would personally reserve judgement on the hybrid system until he announces it in detail.

[wenjiannin]

All my coins have the poloniex , and now they can't get it out. If I can take it out, I can donate 50%, and that will be a big number, about 10000BBR

Hi,

Have you tried making post on their reddit page? It seems like the only place they will respond to any claims. I think we should start some kind of thread to get a total amount of BBR frozen on Poloniex then after we have a total count or close to one, proceed to hire legal team to pursue them to release funds and possibly damages for inconvenience caused by their actions.

Hi wenjiannin,

I've started a Boolberry claims thread for all victims in this community that have pain and suffering claims against Bittrex or Poloniex. Hopefully we can get a full accounting of the amount frozen and then move towards legal action against them to force them to release everyone's funds. There is no scenario where this situation is acceptable and there is also no shortage of law firms that would take up this case on contingency basis for a portion of the damages claim. Unlike the Mt Gox claim (https://www.mtgoxlegal.com/) both exchanges are still operational and have not declared bankruptcy yet.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2811962.0

https://photos.app.goo.gl/OzpeVS2lC1MOm2td2This is a website screenshot, the BBR extracted in December 29th has not been shown to the account, I also posted POST, no reply.

[yaroslavskoll]

How do we acquire this coin? is it by mining?Or through an IPO ？

[MMichaelix]

How do we acquire this coin? is it by mining?Or through an IPO ？

You can either mine it or buy some on stocks.exchange. It should also be available on Kucoin soon.

[halkuon]

It will be great to move to Kucoin, lot of people dont want to use stocks exchange. Will give BBR more volume and price discovery

[rdnkjdi]

Whoever that whale was buying at .0004 ... I have a stack you can buy 

[wenjiannin]

Who else's BBR has not been extracted from POLONIEX? Go on and put pressure on him to give BBR to us!

[tbearhere]

Who else's BBR has not been extracted from POLONIEX? Go on and put pressure on him to give BBR to us!

I have other coins stuck there and ticketed them many times.... no answer.

[md123456]

All my coins have the poloniex , and now they can't get it out. If I can take it out, I can donate 50%, and that will be a big number, about 10000BBR

Hi,

Have you tried making post on their reddit page? It seems like the only place they will respond to any claims. I think we should start some kind of thread to get a total amount of BBR frozen on Poloniex then after we have a total count or close to one, proceed to hire legal team to pursue them to release funds and possibly damages for inconvenience caused by their actions.

Hi wenjiannin,

I've started a Boolberry claims thread for all victims in this community that have pain and suffering claims against Bittrex or Poloniex. Hopefully we can get a full accounting of the amount frozen and then move towards legal action against them to force them to release everyone's funds. There is no scenario where this situation is acceptable and there is also no shortage of law firms that would take up this case on contingency basis for a portion of the damages claim. Unlike the Mt Gox claim (https://www.mtgoxlegal.com/) both exchanges are still operational and have not declared bankruptcy yet.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2811962.0

Actually it looks like Bittrex enabled withdrawals, but I don't have a wallet to test with...I'll set one up and see...