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Author Topic: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed Since 2014  (Read 1210691 times)
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September 03, 2014, 12:39:05 AM
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Good news!

We have new version v0.2.0.34(b4fe304), with some new features and fixes:

1. We added new tab "Exchange" to wallet, this tab let you see what is happening on the market, thanks to for providing public API, that we use to fetch this information:


Many thanks to user  aradeshworking, who appeared accidently, implemented this feature about a month ago, and then disappeared. Anyway, i know he is reading this thread - dear aradeshworking - thank you!

2. Since now we have market information, i've added current exchange rate to Dashboard and to Wallet, this information seems to be useful:



3. Implemented alias support in wallet RPC API - with new version (and actually any exchange or service) can support withdrawal to alias address.
4. Fixed bug with unset donation flag in COMMAND_RPC_GETBLOCKTEMPLATE
5. Few minor changes, including pruning ring signatures tests&fixes + protocol extension for checkpoints.

Welcome to try new version!

Windows:
Installer: bbr-win-x64-v0.2.0.34(b4fe304)-installer.exe
Zip-archive: bbr-win-x64-v0.2.0.34(b4fe304).zip

Linux:
Zip-archive: bbr-linux-x64-v0.2.0.34(b4fe304).tar.bz2

Macos:
Zip-archive: bbr-macos-x64-v0.2.0.34(b4fe304).zip


PS: Since this update contains important fixes i've pushed alert into the network with information about new version, so now you should see something like this in GUI dashboard view:



+ annoying messages in console daemon version!




Good stuff.
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September 03, 2014, 01:29:55 AM
Last edit: September 03, 2014, 01:43:23 AM by lanlansky
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"Status: Loading blockchain data..."
Connections: 0
Height: 0
Current difficulty: ---
Current network hashrate: ---
Software version: ---
Exchange rate: ---
Always like this.  Cry
I used new wallet
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September 03, 2014, 01:44:27 AM
Last edit: September 03, 2014, 01:59:50 AM by sussex
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Is there a way to change the password for a wallet?

Reason I ask is I have an address with an alias, the password is shite, so I'd like to change it.....

Just noticed that the gpu miner is displaying that the software is out of date, but it isn't, is it?

Presumably some artifact from the new wallet.
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September 03, 2014, 01:44:52 AM
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"Status: Loading blockchain data..."
Connections: 0
Height: 0
Current difficulty: ---
Current network hashrate: ---
Software version: ---
Exchange rate: ---
Always like this.  Cry
I used new wallet

Firewall?
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September 03, 2014, 02:14:45 AM
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Friends,this name is really strange Cheesy
I am honestly embarrased to say to another guy that I own Boolberries

btw nothing against the project itself I think it's pretty awesome
Do not mention it to anyone until you become filthy rich.  Cheesy
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September 03, 2014, 02:44:42 AM
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One suggestion for the GUI.

Instead of having the "Open Wallet" button, would it be hard to scan the directory and list the wallets available to open?  Then allow user to select wallet?  That would be a good feature to have.
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September 03, 2014, 03:09:45 AM
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Friends,this name is really strange Cheesy
I am honestly embarrased to say to another guy that I own Boolberries

btw nothing against the project itself I think it's pretty awesome

And in 1995 investors were embarrassed to admit they owned stock in fresh-from-the-dorm start-ups with silly names like 'Yahoo' and 'Google.'   Cool


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September 03, 2014, 03:20:27 AM
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I found a single boolberry block ages ago.  Is it too late to assign my alias via that block?
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September 03, 2014, 03:28:48 AM
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I found a single boolberry block ages ago.  Is it too late to assign my alias via that block?

Yeah, you missed your chance.

If you want to pm me a wallet address I can get the alias on it for you, shouldn't take too long.
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September 03, 2014, 03:37:14 AM
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"Status: Loading blockchain data..."
Connections: 0
Height: 0
Current difficulty: ---
Current network hashrate: ---
Software version: ---
Exchange rate: ---
Always like this.  Cry
I used new wallet

Firewall?

Nah, im getting exactly the same thing.

Old wallet was fine - just updated via the installer and now it wont connect. just says "status loading block chain data..." (even though i was fully upto date on the old version) and the exchange tab also is receiving no data.
I removed qt-boolb.exe from firewall, re-added it in and still nothing.

Windows 8.1 here.
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September 03, 2014, 03:58:35 AM
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iv gone through all the blocks 6/7 blocks above and below the time i sent the 4900+ transaction and cannot see that amount sent in any of them, i dont even think all the coins sent in that time adds up to the amount i sent??? where have my coins gone??? wtf???

its not even showing up my address in the block explorer.. its like my account and all transactions done do not exist.. could this be a bug in the software?

Same problem with Bittrex  Cry
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September 03, 2014, 04:02:17 AM
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Sure - its major advantage right now derives from its better choice of block time, the fact that it didn't have an early-stage dust problem, and that its transaction fees weren't as easily exploitable for DoS attacks.

That is incorrect on all three counts. Take a look at the details (proportion attributable to these factors, etc.) and you will see that these are not the main reasons for the block chain being smaller and faster. Even the difference in PoW is relatively unimportant right now (but might have some advantage -- or disadvantage -- in the future). My friend othe was right it is almost all a difference right now is lower BBR usage causing the chain to be much smaller.

Hello smooth!

When you posted this i've decided to finally research this subject and publish results.
Experiment i did is very simple (and honest i guess, without tricks): i've synchronized both daemons bitmonerod(prebuilt bitmonerod i've downloaded from website) and boolbd, and yesterday i've shutdowned them both in one time(the difference was maybe 1-2 minutes). 
Then, today i've started them with log level 1, bitmonerod at frist (just to avoid talks that it was't honest), waited until it finished synchronizing, then stopped it, and then started boolbd, let it syncronize and stopped it.

Here is logs from both daemons: http://boolberry.com/files/bbr_ws_xmr.zip
To exclude time for peers lookup etc, let measure synctime from first block added during syncronization to last one added.
For Monero it is:

Start:
Code:
2014-Sep-03 02:38:06.538142 [P2P3]+++++ BLOCK SUCCESSFULLY ADDED
id: <96406071fc38735f8d12db924c28cb022d56170825983299e6d0df5f3879dc8e>
PoW: <c86d7525689e35d2b1536f5ac96c4ce0629a8857af2383dd3129cdaf02000000>
HEIGHT 199045, difficulty: 1535654043
block reward: 14.548473832909(14.248473832909 + 0.300000000000), coinbase_blob_size: 211, cumulative size: 23036, 281(0/32)ms
2014-Sep-03 02:38:06.560145 [P2P3]tx added: <5777175605147aa64ce4e58f172392ef436d232b35c0ee3b95d933d09936a94c>
Finished:
Code:
2014-Sep-03 02:40:47.293056 [P2P6]+++++ BLOCK SUCCESSFULLY ADDED
id: <8baf7a9f25e31a0cd883c9ef1d9671a4725a707955539fd413fa156f0cfd21b2>
PoW: <0ee3862c33f946c712b843b201ecb3cba6da8bfdf731b72febcae58f02000000>
HEIGHT 200863, difficulty: 1423015197
block reward: 14.899392306811(14.559320375123 + 0.340071931688), coinbase_blob_size: 211, cumulative size: 1883, 31(0/31)ms

We have:
Time: 02:38:06.53814 ->  02:40:47.293056, 161 seconds
1818 Blocks
1568 transactions (coinbase transactions not included)


Now Boolberry:

Start:
Code:
2014-Sep-03 02:42:48.239414 [P2P8]+++++ BLOCK SUCCESSFULLY ADDED
id: <f8fd35f28c02f2a1ddd6be6d8af07b6c3cda95c88762e654b2267facea3c7e98>
PoW: <eb683a4174ec999bf3bce7451c20eec1153f63588f011f44ba60c90000000000>
HEIGHT 76616, difficulty: 643355906678
block reward: 16.189093000000(16.189093000000 + 0.000000000000), coinbase_blob_size: 349, cumulative size: 349, 63(0/0)ms

End:
Code:
2014-Sep-03 02:43:28.121978 [P2P5]+++++ BLOCK SUCCESSFULLY ADDED
id: <a653878e4542f8e48114e4d39f47cdc9d052382610877154a20c5b2a318311eb>
PoW: <fc897642e3410fda7d07609b64a34ff1b87780a412c5eeb470b8a10100000000>
HEIGHT 77366, difficulty: 461360625504
block reward: 16.177517000000(16.177517000000 + 0.000000000000), coinbase_blob_size: 388, cumulative size: 388, 0(0/0)ms

We have:
Time: 02:42:48.239414 ->  02:43:28.121978, 40 seconds
750 Blocks
1564 transactions (coinbase transactions not included)... i'm also was very surprised why transactions counter almost the same ?.... actually have no idea, may be i've missed something, but anyway - blockchain is the same on every computer - so everyone could check my calculations.

It seem that Boolberry is 4 times faster, let's try to figure out why.

Your assumption was that "difference right now is lower BBR usage". Well, it was true for long time, but last few days nxt folk seemed to have interest to our project, it was actively traded, and transactions rate in Boolberry looks the same level as Monero, according to this numbers.

I didn't met any network lacks or losts during synchronization for both coins, here is histogram for Monero synchronization built by from logs timestamps:

so it seems that most time was spent for processing data.

Avarage time for PoW for my CPU is about 20ms (it drifts from 15ms to 30ms according to logs), that means that for 1818 blocks it takes 36.36 seconds summary. So here is a first part of advantage, not so big as i expected, but still prety useful.
Now we have 40 seconds against 120 seconds.

If we think that most time spending on processing data, we could say(very very roughly) that:
Monero spent 120 seconds (without PoW time) for 1818 blocks - that means 66ms/block.
Boolberry spent 40 seconds (PoW time is negligibly small) for 750 blocks - that means 53ms/block.

The difference between 66ms and 53ms could be explained(but this is just guess, i didn't researched this) with significant difference of blockchain content - even empty Monero chain has twice more transactions because of twice more blocks with coinbase, much bigger global outputs index(m_outputs) because of dust in coinbase. Plus Monero has more active trading/transaction traffic history. So i think this explains 66ms and 53ms difference.

Now, finally, according to my calculations we have (roughly):
+80 (200%)                       -because of twice more blocks at the same time + slower model because of more data (i've tried to split this numbers into 2 different but this pretty hard without additional profiling)
+36-40 seconds (90-100%)  -because of slow PoW.

I want to remind that this experiment was done with almost the same transactions amount per day on both blockchains.

As an conclusion:
1. With current implementation and with equal transaction flow Boolberry synchronization 4x times faster than Monero. This is just an established fact.
2. Why slower:
    65-70% of slowdown is rised because of twice more blocks per time + slower model because of data overhead + transaction history,
    30-35% slowdown because of slow PoW.

I shared link to logs to let everyone control (and correct) my calculations if i did something wrong. I would be thankful if someone will research this issue deeper.


PS: This post is not about is it good or bad to have 1 minute block interval or instead of 2 minutes, there are advantages and disadvantages for both configurations. This post is just about timing.

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September 03, 2014, 04:05:52 AM
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I found a single boolberry block ages ago.  Is it too late to assign my alias via that block?

Yes.
You can assign it only if you set command in daemon during mining (see help for make_alias command).
But much easier to ask pool operator to register alias for you, Clintar used to do it for free.

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September 03, 2014, 04:11:17 AM
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I've noticed about problem with new GUI, fix will be ASAP, but not faster than in 10-12 hours, since i need to sleep.

All who have problems with GUI - just use v0.2.0.33(63f5db0) and ignore threatening message until it will be fixed.



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September 03, 2014, 05:17:35 AM
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Serious buying going on tonight  Shocked

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September 03, 2014, 05:44:33 AM
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"Status: Loading blockchain data..."
Connections: 0
Height: 0
Current difficulty: ---
Current network hashrate: ---
Software version: ---
Exchange rate: ---
Always like this.  Cry
I used new wallet

Firewall?

Nah, im getting exactly the same thing.

Old wallet was fine - just updated via the installer and now it wont connect. just says "status loading block chain data..." (even though i was fully upto date on the old version) and the exchange tab also is receiving no data.
I removed qt-boolb.exe from firewall, re-added it in and still nothing.

Windows 8.1 here.

exactly same as you , windows 8.1 and the GUI keep showing "Loading blockchain data"
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September 03, 2014, 06:27:05 AM
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Serious buying going on tonight  Shocked

What do you think BBR's fair value is?
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September 03, 2014, 06:44:58 AM
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Serious buying going on tonight  Shocked

What do you think BBR's fair value is?

Am I Buying or selling.......makes a big difference  Grin

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September 03, 2014, 07:07:24 AM
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Serious buying going on tonight  Shocked

What do you think BBR's fair value is?
BBR Peak: June 22, 0.0036BTC
BBR intrinsic value at June 22 = X
BBR intrinsic value today = 3X   (GUI, statum pool mining, supernet, etc)
Todays BTC value = 3 * 0.0036 = 0.0108BTC
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September 03, 2014, 07:19:59 AM
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Serious buying going on tonight  Shocked

What do you think BBR's fair value is?

 I won't even pretend that I have a clue what it should be worth. I like the name, dev seems cool and I don't see a reason why I should not own some.

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