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September 22, 2014, 02:06:49 AM |
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I don't like this insistence on having a mathematical/coding/encryption angle to the name - it only means anything to us, it only impresses some of us - real people don't give a shit. Also, all this stealth stuff, it's just too polarising, it's as likely to put off just as many as it attracts - BTC still carries the Silk Road baggage around.
In the wider world it is much more important that people are not intimidated by the name - it's going to take a leap of imagination on new users parts just to begin to get their heads round crypto - lets not scare them off before they've even tried.
plz make suggestions clearly Rune was not liked by a lot of people, but you are the only one finding something wrong with ciphers so far it is crypto, I think people can handle ciphers i think he wants something as catchy as google. think boolberry but 2 syllables. coopher? boolry? bools?
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September 22, 2014, 02:12:05 AM |
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booli (pronounced bool-eye)?
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September 22, 2014, 02:13:10 AM Last edit: September 22, 2014, 02:38:17 AM by sussex |
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I don't like this insistence on having a mathematical/coding/encryption angle to the name - it only means anything to us, it only impresses some of us - real people don't give a shit. Also, all this stealth stuff, it's just too polarising, it's as likely to put off just as many as it attracts - BTC still carries the Silk Road baggage around.
In the wider world it is much more important that people are not intimidated by the name - it's going to take a leap of imagination on new users parts just to begin to get their heads round crypto - lets not scare them off before they've even tried.
plz make suggestions clearly Rune was not liked by a lot of people, but you are the only one finding something wrong with ciphers so far it is crypto, I think people can handle ciphers Most importantly I can market with "ciphers" as it is really a neutral word, also the google test shows a bunch of links about cryptography So far my mind is as always - change nothing. Blackberry = phones Apple = erotic sexual communications devices Orange = Mobile Phone provider Raspberry Pi = Tiny little linux thing You see? Tech companies using friendly names with good connotations because they are trying to attract real people. No one thinks they are a breakfast cereal manufacturer. As for the idea that we are only offering something to the tech savvy/anonymous transaction user.... why in the hell why? BBR offers security, ease of use (or at least better than others), speed and (optional) anonymous transactions.... what else does a normal, casual user want? Why shouldn't he use BBR too? Maybe BBR could overtake BTC one day, why not? To suggest we cripple the coin by deliberately only appealing to a tiny segment of potential users is..... mental. If you google boolberry, only boolberry comes up - unless the replacement name is really, really good, what's the point of giving away unique billing on google?
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September 22, 2014, 02:13:22 AM |
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OMG OMG OMG I THINK I FOUND IT The name "flooz" was based upon the Arabic word for money, فلوس, fuloos "FLOOZ" SOUNDS PERFECT OMG ITS FRENCH FOR MONEY ALSO MAYBE ARCHAIC ARAB FOR MONEY (mEANS SHELL AND SHELLFISH) HAVE YOU GuyS READ SZABO ORIGIN OF MONEY PAPER? IT ALL COMES FROM SHELLS read this : http://szabo.best.vwh.net/shell.html
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September 22, 2014, 02:15:11 AM |
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September 22, 2014, 02:17:40 AM |
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zing zingy
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September 22, 2014, 02:19:44 AM |
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So... money for women of ill repute? Errrrr...
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September 22, 2014, 02:24:12 AM |
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So... money for women of ill repute? Errrrr... The name "flooz" was based upon the Arabic word for money, فلوس, fuloos who cares if some degenerates call women floozie. ive never heard it too before. besides, if they call them that way its because they love money too much! they love money more than themselves and thats why they are prostitute i think its perfect, im in love with the name, i wonder what zoidberg will think of it
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September 22, 2014, 02:24:42 AM |
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Here was my proposal Ripple is great, so is splash. but these terms are very broad. ripple had deep pockets already to buy-out domain and handle marketing. here is my idea ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F8QxjpZE.png&t=665&c=kIoLwFfJrLvfEg) keccash/kecash (mispronounced) as kek-ash or even keycash, not ketchash Neutral, short (2 syllables) unique- reflects cash properties as well reference to underlying algo. Google: About 20 results preregged domains keccash.com keccash.org kecash.com kecash.org Though personally despite initially disliking boolberry I've grown quite accustomed to it, fond even. The short ticker name also works. "Sent you 20 BBR" just rolls of the tongue easily, it doesn't sound pretentious or dramatic IMO. There is no existing brand competition. I don't think we should try to force any branding at this time as it could be counterproductive, everyone can make suggestions and see if we can come to some slight consensus, it seems as for now the classic name is still preferred generally.
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September 22, 2014, 02:26:12 AM |
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I don't like this insistence on having a mathematical/coding/encryption angle to the name - it only means anything to us, it only impresses some of us - real people don't give a shit. Also, all this stealth stuff, it's just too polarising, it's as likely to put off just as many as it attracts - BTC still carries the Silk Road baggage around.
In the wider world it is much more important that people are not intimidated by the name - it's going to take a leap of imagination on new users parts just to begin to get their heads round crypto - lets not scare them off before they've even tried.
You realize that BBR is filling a niche for people that want the highest and most secure cryptocurrency, one with complete and total anonymity? BBR isn't competing with bitcoin. Bitcoin can't provide privacy and autonomy. There are hundreds of coins competing with bitcoin. Most, probably all, will lose. BBR is competing against the powers of the world that don't want people to have privacy and autonomy. Just realised I conflated a reply to two posts. From above: As for the idea that we are only offering something to the tech savvy/anonymous transaction user.... why in the hell why?
BBR offers security, ease of use (or at least better than others), speed and (optional) anonymous transactions.... what else does a normal, casual user want? Why shouldn't he use BBR too? Maybe BBR could overtake BTC one day, why not?
To suggest we cripple the coin by deliberately only appealing to a tiny segment of potential users is..... mental.
Are you sure you understand marketing? I'm amazed that you view BBR this way - you need to expand your horizons. Of course "most probably all will lose", but one (at least) should succeed, you seem to be limiting the chances of that happening for BBR. BBR is competing against the powers of the world that don't want people to have privacy and autonomy. This isn't a war - I am genuinely concerned which direction you want to take the coin in, you seem to want to drive it further underground and use it in some personal ideological battle.
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September 22, 2014, 02:27:11 AM |
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So... money for women of ill repute? Errrrr... The name "flooz" was based upon the Arabic word for money, فلوس, fuloos who cares if some degenerates call women floozie. ive never heard it too before. besides, if they call them that way its because they love money too much! they love money more than themselves and thats why they are prostitute i think its perfect, im in love with the name, i wonder what zoidberg will think of it In the UK (which is full of degenerates, granted) it is a very, very common term, everybody knows it - Australia too I think.
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September 22, 2014, 02:29:20 AM |
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So... money for women of ill repute? Errrrr... The name "flooz" was based upon the Arabic word for money, فلوس, fuloos who cares if some degenerates call women floozie. ive never heard it too before. besides, if they call them that way its because they love money too much! they love money more than themselves and thats why they are prostitute i think its perfect, im in love with the name, i wonder what zoidberg will think of it In the UK (which is full of degenerates, granted) it is a very, very common term, everybody knows it - Australia too I think. well i say merde to the english world because in french bitcoin means dickcoin which means dickcorner so let us have it for a while! i want FLOOZ !
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September 22, 2014, 02:31:27 AM |
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So... money for women of ill repute? Errrrr... The name "flooz" was based upon the Arabic word for money, فلوس, fuloos who cares if some degenerates call women floozie. ive never heard it too before. besides, if they call them that way its because they love money too much! they love money more than themselves and thats why they are prostitute i think its perfect, im in love with the name, i wonder what zoidberg will think of it In the UK (which is full of degenerates, granted) it is a very, very common term, everybody knows it - Australia too I think. well i say merde to the english world because in french bitcoin means dickcoin which means dickcorner so let us have it for a while! i want FLOOZ ! Go for it son ! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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September 22, 2014, 02:36:32 AM |
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keccash/keycash >>> flooz/floozy
I like keycash, maybe even better than boolberry, though I'm on the fence about it a bit. Also, keycash.com is apparently not available (no surprise there).
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September 22, 2014, 02:37:27 AM |
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I don't like this insistence on having a mathematical/coding/encryption angle to the name - it only means anything to us, it only impresses some of us - real people don't give a shit. Also, all this stealth stuff, it's just too polarising, it's as likely to put off just as many as it attracts - BTC still carries the Silk Road baggage around.
In the wider world it is much more important that people are not intimidated by the name - it's going to take a leap of imagination on new users parts just to begin to get their heads round crypto - lets not scare them off before they've even tried.
You realize that BBR is filling a niche for people that want the highest and most secure cryptocurrency, one with complete and total anonymity? BBR isn't competing with bitcoin. Bitcoin can't provide privacy and autonomy. There are hundreds of coins competing with bitcoin. Most, probably all, will lose. BBR is competing against the powers of the world that don't want people to have privacy and autonomy. Just realised I conflated a reply to two posts. From above: As for the idea that we are only offering something to the tech savvy/anonymous transaction user.... why in the hell why?
BBR offers security, ease of use (or at least better than others), speed and (optional) anonymous transactions.... what else does a normal, casual user want? Why shouldn't he use BBR too? Maybe BBR could overtake BTC one day, why not?
To suggest we cripple the coin by deliberately only appealing to a tiny segment of potential users is..... mental.
Are you sure you understand marketing? I'm amazed that you view BBR this way - you need to expand your horizons. Of course "most probably all will lose", but one (at least) should succeed, you seem to be limiting the chances of that happening for BBR. BBR is competing against the powers of the world that don't want people to have privacy and autonomy. This isn't a war - I am genuinely concerned which direction you want to take the coin in, you seem to want to drive it further underground and use it in some personal ideological battle. So you honestly believe people are interested in BBR because of ease of use and speed? Lol. Come on now. We can do better than this. CryptoNote has appeal because of security and anonymity. Let's not be so naive to believe, as so many other fledgling coin communities are, that this coin will succeed simply because we want it to. Satoshi wasn't that naive. He put bitcoin the world and the world responded with a resounding "yes, we are interested in this." The world is likewise responding to CN, for specific reasons. I don't want to take this coin in any particular direction. I am happy to go down the path of least resistance with everyone else. So you tell me, Sussex, who is investing in, developing and promoting BBR because of ease of use and transaction speed? Who? If you can't answer this question with at least a handful of examples, then please stop acting like we live in a world that we don't. If however, you can get the majority of people on this thread in the BBR community to agree that ease of use and transaction speed trump CN anonymity tech, then, by all means, lets focus on those points!
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September 22, 2014, 02:45:51 AM |
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stegano indelibool
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September 22, 2014, 02:45:55 AM |
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If we're not trying to appeal to the mainstream, why bother changing Boolberry's name anyway? People who want anonymity won't care what it's called.
Boolberry isn't that bad anyways.
Better than Rune.
Cipher sounds good though
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September 22, 2014, 02:46:41 AM |
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I got a bit excited about Flooz earlier so I summed up the whole thing in a nice and well written message: Hi there! I've just had a revelation about the name. I think FLOOZ is perfect to the mind and sounds perfect to the ear. Let me explain: The name "flooz" was based upon the Arabic word for money, فلوس, fuloos which also meant "coquillage, obole, sou". Coquillage is french for Shells. Flouze nowadays is slang for money in french. French will be the third most spoken language 30 to 50 years from now. According to Nick Szabo resarch, at the origin it was shells that were used for money. If you've read the cryptonote white paper, you can see its dedicated to Nicholas Van Saben. Nick van Sab sounds a lot like Nick Szabo. It's a bit of leap of faith but if FLOOZ was accepted as a name, the circle will be full... In french we say, la boucle serait bouclée. http://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/flouzehttp://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/flouzehttp://szabo.best.vwh.net/shell.htmlCons: In the english world, Floozie designate a woman who sells her body or money. It means that they love their money more than they body. But it also means that Flooze is in a lot of western languages interconnected with money. PS: Flooze and other spelling are also good.
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